No excess heat was detected, or expected. In this test we were looking for a specific radiation signature that might help identify the reaction path in Nickel-Hydrogen systems. No reproducible signal was seen, but the test run helped debug the extensive new instrumentation and live data display. The next test will begin in about three weeks.

Without going thru all this, what's the latest; any (+) COP?

Bob, is it possible to attempt to duplicate the temperature regions comparable to Figure 7 of the Lugano Report? (In a RAVI file sequence)

200-237.5°C

Thanks. MFMP, for doing this stuff.

You want an external temp in that range?

You can make the regions yourself in the free PI Connect linked on the blog at Quantumheat.org
by using the RAVI we publish.

Yes, an external temperature.
Since Figure 7 shows part of the Lugano calibration, this is an important temperature segment to understand.

I have your layout loaded and running. I just tried one of the older glow stick RAVI files also.

Great - you can learn how to configure zones then and set it up in advance.

I have spoken to Alan - and your request is a go... here is what he said specifically

"Yes, that is possible. I won't be getting into the Dogbone test until next week due to work commitments, but I see that as a plus. It will give ample time to refine the proposed test protocol, and resolve some computer issues that appeared yesterday (systems locked up because of DHCP conflicts when the WAN IP address rolled over).

Today we're breaking down the GS5.4 cell to recover the fuel."

So - within the power limits of 0-700W (due to coil resistance) think about what you might want in the protocol to address any questions you might have.

How hot do you think this replica can go?

We are limited to about 700W due to the low resistance of the coil, however, I have a suggestion for Alan to get round this, we have another coil in series in the dummy core.

Hi Bob, do you think any fusionating is happening with the latest fusionater yet?
:)

The data needs to be looked at - but nothing was really obvious - which maybe a good thing, since as I have said before, I was told on Dec 14, 2012 "You need to add an alkaline metal" and this experiment deliberately did not have any.

Ok and thanks Bob for sharing. Keep up the great work MFMP!

The Close up Layout Explanation video is awesome Bob.

Thanks. Due to my financial situation these past years I had the same phone since 2012 and it was getting tired. Given that my son had dropped my phone and the wifi antenna had failed I had to get a new phone. I did an animation job at the end of last year and used the proceeds to get myself a new S7 and frankly - I am blown away with what it can do - nearly all of the videos for GS 5.4 were recorded and edited on the phone - it allowed very immediate reporting and documenting of the work being done - with full manual control also and pause recording, I could set exposure and focus (even to macro) rapidly on a per video segment basis. Very happy - and to think I once paid $5000 for a Sony FX1 which was huge and so simply could not get this close to the action.

Thx to Moor's law !

Really amazing... and I am speaking as someone who bought the first 24bit hand scanner for a personal computer, the first Kodak commercial digital 1Mpix camera and the wonderful Sony 3CCD TRV900 - in real terms, all of these were the significantly more expensive than this phone.

Imagine what will happen when LENR will catch the same attention as mobile phone tech. It's mind boggling.

Well - the battery would be dead for one thing.

slow but good improvement.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...

Lugano Thermal Assessment Take 2

https://goo.gl/uOrgO2

Well, this shall be fun. Thanks goes to the team for doing this again, and comprehensively! The Dogbone is still a cool design.

There were some recent questions raised which needed to be settled.

Personally I had three things I wanted to account for
1. Blocking the ends of the reactor tube rather than having them open.
2. We established by way of the Williamson IR 3mm spot that the average of the top third of the ridges was 100ºC hotter than the same span in the crevice. This meant that the K-Type and B-Type TCs, which had end beads of differing sizes, read slightly differently in the original tests.
3. The original TCs were held in place by fine Kathal wire and so were partially in convective flow - in this case they are bonded to the surface, leveraging the TC bonding experience we have gained since.

In this test, the high emissivity paint (1 at 800ºC) is in a flat area and the comparason adjascent alumina has been flattened also - this should remove the ridge/crevice issue from the original tests.

More details and a quick RAVI (Radio Metric AVI) file to download so you can learn to play with the set-up

https://goo.gl/NSZYMD

If you have a windows PC, you can download the free Optris PI-Connect, load the sample RAVI from the set up and import the Layout - with this, you can play with the regions and emissivity to your hearts content and be ready for a similar file we intend to share after the main test.

Some statements by DW on LENR forum (you may have noticed):

1) “The Lugano reactor was molded in a silicon rubber compound using a threaded metal rod as the base. Cotronics Durapot 810 Powder was the alumina cement compound with a dielectric strength of 270v/mil and a volume resistivity of 1010 ohm-cm at room temp. Resistance wire was from Hyndman Industrial Products, part number 167660-14. Res .2650 Ohms/Ft. .0571 diameter, alloy KA1, Heat# B381142. This was tightly twisted into a pair by IH.“

2) „[…] the reactor was painted before the test.”

https://www.lenr-forum.com/...

If #2 is correct, an unusual type of paint must have been used. Durapot 810 is not pure alumina. It has been supposed that the samples which have been identified as pure Al2O3 might have come from the sealing cement, rather than the reactor body.

Thankyou .

We - amazingly used the same technique - in addition, I think we used the same Durapot material.

Our resistance wire in previous DBs was Kanthal - in this one it is the highest specification inconel. It does not really matter much as long as the heat is dissipated in the reactor and not in the connections.

The Lugano report says that a sample of the reactor outside was taken and that it was Al2O3. In reality again, it does not matter what the material it is since we will be calibrating our real material with a known high emissivity paint specifically designed for this purpose and using the method as described in the Optris hand book. The physical form of the reactors radiating surface is equivalent.

We have generally used the value recommended on p.42 of the optris handbook for ceramic that is 0.95 for our *GlowStick* 5.3 & 5.4 experiments and the derived temperatures are accurate when compared to TCs across a wide range to within a degree or two so very tight for the purposes of this experiment.

I agree about the wires – although using the original make could shed some light on the atypical resistivity drop. Durapot 810 might have a different (lower) emissivity than similar products of the same company. However, the paint would modify the reactor characteristics anyway. Maybe it was indeed based on Al2O3, which could explain the results of the XRD analysis.

We are not in a position to make another dummy - but we do have this one made and all the other components in place for testing.

Post calibration shows level of drift of NaI in 5.4 and that 511keV is nearly out of range of ROI now.

From Alan Goldwater

"I have just done a post-calibration with 137Cs. The lower peak at 32.993 keV is spot on. the upper peak has drifted from 662.8 to 670.0 keV. This drift places 511 keV barely within the ROI, so unsure if there is an issue.

As a final test I put the 22Na source in, which has a strong 511k line. A screen grab of the result is attached, and it's also available on the Cloudstation archive. The 22Na reference lines shown are based on the spectrometer's calibration. The actual recorded spectrum is from the 22Na source, and shows the 511 peak at 520 keV"

Attached is the spectra for 22Na and that the live data CLEARLY shows 511keV ROI signal with 22Na in place even considering the drift.

Note how little the 7317 is sensitive to the Na22 and that the 511keV induced peak precedes the ROI in a similar way to the data previously observed from the run.

https://uploads.disquscdn.c...https://uploads.disquscdn.c...

Probably nothing but did the Geiger go to 60 CPM. At 08.00 this morning?

It is nothing - just variance.

The guys prepared the stage for a re-validation of the Lugano []=Dog Bone=[] reactor dummy test to address subsequent challenges to our previous work in the field and some minor issues that needed to be covered for completeness.

http://www.quantumheat.org/...

Great and good luck Bob. I first became aware of LENR through your original dog bone tests.

Which is funny, because they are the only series of tests that never had any claimed active component in them.

Yup there was a small comment from a colleague at work a couple of years back who mentioned Cold Fusion was still being investigated in France... I thought wow really ? then I started browsing. That's when I came across MFMP. My initial assumptions were quite naive but the more I studied the more I was amazed just how deap and rich the studies have been by all kinds of people since 1989.

Seems still word and mouth is the first trigger to start looking and thinking. But I get the feeling that thanks to your and MFMP efforts and also Franks here too more and more people are paying attention.
Cheers.

Hi Stephen,

I have been working on something for a few months now which is intended to make the whole field more accessible with higher exposure and I am readying to start rolling it out. It will not conflict with the excellent work and contribution of Frank, Peter Gluck or established Forums. More eyes are better and those eyes should not have to wade through the nonsense to engage.

I also hope it will allow sustainable expansion and acceleration of the work I do with absolutely no compromise to my ideals and ensure that the MFMP and its great contributing scientists and participants (of which you are integral part) can be supported further to maintain their strength and integrity.

Believe me, there is a war on right now, and I'm with the common interest.

Can the instrument be recalibrated? It's good it did not drift out of ROI detection range yet, but seems it will do so soon if something can't be done on the fly for it. At least the 22Na and 137Cs give a good calibration source.

Bob Higgins has a 137Cs source in the way of his scintillator and uses that to continuously re-calibrate his data (post run)

Comment and visualisation about only detection from 'muon' detector during GS5.4 run....

Dr. Don Groom, co-developer of the CCD based approach to muon detection we attempted to replicate in GS5.4 said of the attached event

"Probably a Compton recoil with maybe a delta ray (Knock-on electron) making the bright pixels."

Visualisation courtesy of Diadon Acs https://uploads.disquscdn.c...https://uploads.disquscdn.c...

Very cool, Bob. More evidence of gammas if it is Compton scattering.

So far, does the evidence support P, G, and/or S? Or none of those?

Hi Ged,

Well - if we really are seeing 511keV (and I am not convinced of that yet) it would support P. There is no evidence of support for G - we would have seen a broad spectrum form the 4.8MeV beta to the best of my knowledge.

NOT seeing thermal neutrons in 5.4 is supportive of S.

Seeing 511keV in 5.5 and thermal neutrons (with Lithium in play) would be supportive of P and S respectively.

Ahh yes you are right I was thinking of Rutherford scattering due to a coulomb interaction.

It would be interesting and consistent maybe if the 511 keV emissions were actually real if it is a Compton Scattering event though

There is 1cm of lead, much of any 511keV would be attenuated. Muon is not a photon - so Don Groom is suggesting this is a photon therefore it is high enough energy to clear 1cm of lead... from this calculator

http://web-docs.gsi.de/~sto...

around 17% of 511keV photons would get through.

Which means it would be a suitably rare event, if Compton scattering from 511 keV.

Yes

Is it possible from this picture to determine the direction and possible origin of the original particle?

Is it confirmed it is a muon that is decaying or could it be another particle or particle collision such as a proton collision with a nucleus or scattering of a beta particle that causes the Compton recoil?

The bright spot is interesting too

Would the brightness depend on the velocity of the charged particle? I.e brighter when it is moving slower?

Can we determine any properties of the particle from the length of the track and it's brightness and change in angle assuming a Compton recoil?

Stephen, I have these questions too.

We should not forget that Rossi uses high voltage (probably pulsed) to accelerate particles:

“In one embodiment, the reagents are placed in the reaction chamber at a pressure of 3-6 bar and a temperature of from 400 C to 600 C. An anode is placed at one side of the reactor and a cathode is placed at the other side of the reactor. This accelerates electrons between them to an extent sufficient to have very high energy, in excess of 100 KeV. Regulation of the electron energy can be carried out by regulating the electric field between the cathode and the anode .”

https://www.google.com/pate...

Discussion here:

http://www.e-catworld.com/2...

If the HV is a crucial component (which would make sense), going without it might not lead to the desired results.

*GlowStick* 6 generation will have this.

I will attempt to explain why I think this is important and how it works when I can get time to gather my thoughts and put together a walk-through presentation.

Coincidence or correlation?

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I must admit I was wondering about this too even the trends seem to match up as well as some peaks. It's curious. But are the counts coming from the same device? Or using common parts, sensors or power supplies etc?

Did you compare the GMC signal with the 6Li neutron signal too?

If the correlations are real and not a trick of the eyes it woud be interesting to see if there was any correlation in the control tests too

Hi Stephen,

The Geiger counter is powered by its own USB and detects broad spectrum photons, therefore there has to be significant additional radiation to clear the noise - is this significant on its own, more analysis needed.

The Region of Interest (ROI) for the NaI scintillator in the Spectrum Techniques monitoring software is set to 500 - 520 keV, so it is much more discriminating of the background photon noise. The Spectrum Techniques Multi-Channel Analyser has its own separate power supply.

The two peaks I have highlighted are the highest two in both sets of data and their 1 min averages are both offset by approximately the same 3.5 mins. The third highest peaks in both sets of data are coincident - could this be due to averaging based on the previous rolling average state?

Is there a UPS system on the power? If not it might be a good addition for the future to help prevent line noise from entering the equation, just a thought.

There is already a UPS system.