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Jay Havard • 8 years ago

I'd like to have a law passed where the parents would have to sign a form verifying the vaccine, that it is what they say it is, it's within the age restrictions, and recommended to have. My child was given a vaccine after it was discussed that he didn't need it and would therefore not receive it. when confronted, the doctors started it wouldn't hurt him so there's no issue. They wouldn't even apologize for the mistake. Fortunately he's fine, but that's not everyone's story. After my experience I went on the internet to see if I was the only one this had happened to and from what I read, unfortunately it happens all the time and very often. Well it shouldn't. If I would've had to sign something before the shot was given, it would not have happened. Too many children are dying because of negligence. Let's try to put a stop to this. There needs to be some sort of accountability. It won't bring the children back, but maybe, just maybe, it will prevent some from leaving to soon.

T1mB0 • 8 years ago

The doctor said it wouldn't hurt him, and........it didn't hurt him. What's your point?

Jay Havard • 8 years ago

For many people, that's not their testimony. Clearly, you didn't read the article.

Sandy Weeks • 8 years ago

If there were no vaccines there would be skyrocketing deaths, geese some of you people need to educate yourselves.

Linda Marek • 8 years ago

I have been for 30 years which is why I know that the vaccines have done nothing to stop or prevent disease, only create more in the most devastating ways. If I could scan the pictures from the Poisoned Needle that show the most horrible tumors, lesions, rotting limbs, and baby coffins, you might get a little glimse of the education that some of us do have in this matter and that others of you need to learn.

CumExApostolatus • 8 years ago

The only thing 'skyrocketing' is imbecilic, non-sequitur thinking from people who are so brain-bombed they can't get out of their own way.

Douglas Mills DC • 8 years ago

Yeah Sandy, just like with the recent Disney Land outbreak of measles. And the measles outbreak of a couple years back. Oh, wait, no one died with those outbreaks. Lets get educated Sandy. At least get a short term memory!!

Sandi Hornsby White • 8 years ago

Unless it is Your baby. Would You be glad to give your baby up for the good of the common whole. Nobody has died in America from childhood diseases in 100 years......Nobody died in the Disneyland out break, but many are dying from the vaccines. Antioxidants will boost immunity to make any child safe.

T1mB0 • 8 years ago

Anti-oxidants make any child safe? What sort of nonsense are you spouting now?

Sandi Hornsby White • 8 years ago

Read two time Nobel Prize Winner Linus Pauling's Research and new studies from the University. Read The Human Genome Global Study on how nutrients effects the genes is Human DNA. 3 Decades of studies in Spain. If You really want to educate yourself, and not just want to be critical or "right". North Korea has some new vaccines and antibiotics and so does Russia. Stand in line for the first injections.

T1mB0 • 8 years ago

Post peer reviewed citations, or shut-it!

Sandi Hornsby White • 8 years ago

The CDC or Pharmaceutical Companies do not have any double blind peer reviewed studies or any cause and effect studies. Nor do they test for carcinogens. The Congressional Oversight Health Committee asked for them and they could not produce them. Synthetic Chemical Science is failed science as does teach "toxicity" or "toxic overload". Vaccines sourced outside the USA do not have "quality controls".

Damiana • 8 years ago

This is one of Sandi's canned crazy responses.

Sandi Hornsby White • 8 years ago

I've noticed that You cannot disprove what I am saying either. Show me pro vaccine long term double blind peer reviewed studies.

Damiana • 8 years ago

I don't bother trying to disprove insanity. It speaks for itself.

T1mB0 • 8 years ago

Because you don't read medical journals, you think you can assume peer reviewed-double blinded vaccine studies don't exist? Thank you for sharing your ignorant opinion. Awesome....

Sandi Hornsby White • 8 years ago

Read the Lancet British Medical Journal. " To state the point in other words, Horton states bluntly that major pharmaceutical companies falsify or manipulate tests on the health, safety and effectiveness of their various drugs by taking samples too small to be statistically meaningful or hiring test labs or scientists where the lab or scientist has blatant conflicts of interest such as pleasing the drug company to get further grants. At least half of all such tests are worthless or worse he claims. As the drugs have a major effect on the health of millions of consumers, the manipulation amounts to criminal dereliction and malfeasance."

T1mB0 • 8 years ago

Which Lancet article are you referring to? Citation please. So there are no large scale double blind vaccine studies in peer-reviewed medical literature?

Sandi Hornsby White • 8 years ago

No, not by the CDC or Who.org

Sandi Hornsby White • 8 years ago

You better call the Congressional Oversight Committee speaking directly to CDC Physician Boyle.....no double blind peer reviewed studies and especially for multiple vaccines exists. Call the Committee Members and talk to them. I did. You need to do better research instead of blindly following pack.

T1mB0 • 8 years ago

Why did you use the term "blindly following the pack"? I thought anti-vaxxers like to use "sheeple" I'm disappointed in you.

Linda Marek • 8 years ago

Good answer Sandi.

sabelmouse • 8 years ago

that is the rationale fed to us. but clearly wrong.

Bieber before hos • 8 years ago

thats funny, I just saw a bus load of unvaccinated Amish people shopping at Walmart, not a single one of them looked dead to me...

Mike • 8 years ago

They're not real Amish, they're shopping at Walmart.

T1mB0 • 8 years ago

and they were on a bus...

Bieber before hos • 8 years ago

So what they were just paid actors by Walmart?

Steel • 8 years ago

Look closer. Walmart shoppers are dead on the inside.

Lowell Hubbs • 8 years ago

What a load of ignorance and failure to educate yourself.

The REAL History Behind the Polio Vaccine
http://healthimpactnews.com...

Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign, (and with the real historical data on the failures of the small pox vaccine)
http://www.vacfacts.info/fa...

And where did all the increased number of cancer cases come from starting in the 1970's? Right after the SV40 contaminated polio vaccine was given to millions?

Advances in Virus Research, Volume 50

Pages 83 and 84, read. (Also see the study titled, Simian virus 40 in humans, below on this page)

Excerpted:

Moreover, blood and sperm fluid may represent important means for spreading of SV40 in humans.

Indeed in these investigations, (Martini etal;, 1995,1996) 61% of the neoplastic patients positive for SV 40 sequences were of an age excluding exposure to SV 40-contaminated polio vaccines, suggesting contagious transmission of SV 40 by horizontal infection.

http://books.google.com/boo...

Scientific proof that the known cancer causing SV40 virus, a previous contaminant in the polio vaccine, is obviously either contagious; or the virus is still in the vaccine/s.
http://www.vacfacts.info/sc...

Realize the reason that chronic illness, disorders, and as well developmental disability is now known and realized to be at epidemic numbers over-all in today's children.

The Current Failure of Pertussis and Measles Vaccine
http://www.vacfacts.info/th...

More Vaccine Reality.
http://www.vacfacts.info/mo...

Sandy Weeks • 8 years ago

Sorry but SIDS isn't caused by immunizations. This has been long proven. Any infant that dies it takes months to finish tests. And sounds like they were already told it was SIDS. Vaccines is why so many people live to be old today and good medical care. No sources from this article??

Linda Marek • 8 years ago

Okay Sandy. Here's a bit of education for you: (Do yourself a favor and read the whole thing. She proved that vaccinations cause Crib Death.)

A letter from Dr. Viera Scheibner

Dear Miss Pinkerton, Your name as a contact appears on the information flyer in relation to Hearing on Safety of Hepatitis B vaccine held on May18, 1999 at 2247 Rayburn House Office Building? As my letterhead says, I am a Principal Research Scientist (Retired) and since1986, I have been involved in the study of vaccination and SIDS (Cot death) in Australia. The starting point was longitudinal recording of breathing of babies with computerised Cotwatch Breathing Monitor invented by my late husband, Leif Karlsson, who was a Swedish electronics engineer resident in Australia.

Fortuitously, while recording breathing of a number of babies, many of them were vaccinated and we could see within one hour the effect of vaccination on the stress level in breathing on our computer printouts. This started me off to initiate a thorough research of vaccination issues as published in referenced medical journals of the likes of the Lancet, British Medical Journal, New England Journal of Medicine etc. and resulted in the documentation of the causal link between administration of a great variety of vaccines and serious reactions including permanent brain damage and death. Indeed, vaccination is the single biggest cause of SIDS.

There is another aspect to problems with vaccination: contrary to what you may have heard even from some of those who are calling for the discontinuation of mandatory vaccination in the United States, vaccines do not prevent diseases. The presumed and publicised "eradication" of diseases like smallpox and polio, or Hib meningitis is a myth not supported by even the staunchest pro-vaccinators' research. Smallpox was on the way out, indeed epidemics disappeared decades before the WHO decided to conduct the final "eradication" campaign.

It is also well-documented that the largest epidemics occurred in the most
highly vaccinated populations, while whose who were unvaccinated, did not have the same epidemics. Smallpox still occurs, although on a much smaller scale, particularly in the countries suffering extreme conditions like wars or economic hardship in Africa, India and other parts of Asia (Nepal). The same factor which did away with bubonic plague, against which mass vaccinations have never been conducted, did away with smallpox, namely better nutrition --in reference to better Vitamin C status of populations in the Old and the New Worlds.

Polio has not been eradicated by vaccination, it is lurking behind a redefinition and new diagnostic names like viral or aseptic meningitis. When the first, injectable polio vaccine was tested on some 1.8 million children in the United States in 1954, within 9 days there was huge epidemic of paralytic polio in the vaccinated and some of their parents and other contacts. The US Surgeon General discontinued the trial for 2 weeks.

The vaccinators then put their heads together and came back with a new definition of poliomyelitis. The old, classical, definition: a disease with residual paralysis which resolves within 60 days has been changed to a disease with residual paralysis which persists for more than 60 days. Knowing the reality of polio disease, this nifty but dishonest administrative move excluded more than 90% of polio cases from the definition of polio.

Ever since then, when a polio-vaccinated person gets polio, it will not
be diagnosed as polio, it will be diagnosed as viral or aseptic meningitis.
According to one of the 1997 issues of the MMWR, there are some 30,000 to 50,000 cases of viral meningitis per year in the United States alone. That's where all those 30,000 - 50,000 cases of polio disappeared after the introduction of mass vaccination. One must also be aware that polio is a man-made disease since those well-publicized outbreaks are misrepresented that those huge outbreaks were causally linked to intensified diphtheria and other vaccinations at the relevant time.

They even have a name for it: provocation poliomyelitis. JAMA (1993) published that the fall in the incidence of Hib meningitis occurred in the age group below the age of one year at the time when none of the Hib vaccines were even licensed for that age group. The recent outbreaks of meningitis in the US College students can be clearly linked to the enforced MMR vaccination as a condition for enrolment to Colleges in the U.S. The incidence of whooping cough increased three fold after 1978, which was the time when individual U.S. states started mandating
vaccination as the enclosed pages from Hutchins et al. (1988) show. One does not have to be a rocket scientist to see this from the article.

Unfortunately, one merely has to be a medical doctor not to understand their own data. Medicine developed a special kind of absurd reasoning, like the causal link between vaccination and the observed reactions has never been demonstrated, without defining just what exactly they would consider to constitute the evidence of the causal link and while publishing raw data which clearly shows the causal link between vaccination and the documented increased occurrence of diseases.
JAMA in 1992 published that the incidence of whooping cough as based on hospital admission is up to 126,000 per year in the U.S. This is well and truly the pre-vaccine level.

When they were testing the ascellular whooping cough vaccine in Sweden, as soon as the test babies were given 3 doses of the trial vaccine (meaning they were fully vaccinated) they had a huge epidemic of whooping cough in the fully vaccinated. They discontinued the trial before the targeted time of 2 years. I also need to add, that practically all Swedish children below the age of 1 year participated in the trial.

They expected 20 deaths and observed 45 (pus one accidental death) and yet this very significant increase was glossed over by saying that all deaths were judged unrelated to vaccination, even though there were deaths there within 24 hours or a few days. Vaccinators failed to eradicate measles, so now they claim success in reducing measles incidence between 1970 and 1987. However, it has been published that the very unvaccinated Amish communities did not report a single case of measles between 1970 and 1987. Then, since 1987, both the unvaccinated Amish and the well vaccinated outside communities started experiencing huge outbreaks of measles. Quite obviously, vaccination was totally irrelevant. Quite likely, the sustained small outbreaks of measles between 1970-87 in the vaccinated was achieved by vaccination, which kept measles occurring. Indeed, measles and whooping cough epidemics in the U.S. and elsewhere occur mainly in the fully vaccinated populations. Instead of honestly admitting that vaccination failed, the vaccinators resorted to outrageous lies and misrepresentations.

The worst desperado is the Shaken Baby Syndrome. I enclose my own paper on the subject, emphasizing that all those retinal haemorrhages and detachments which are considered as a fool-proof evidence of trauma (like shaking the babies by their parents or nannies) can and are caused by vaccination, as the enclosed Lancet and other papers show. [article is in our member packet...] Indeed, we don't need any more research; everything we ought to know to realise that vaccines do not prevent diseases and that they are indeed causally implicated in causing
diseases and very serious reactions, has already been published.

I am sending you my book Vaccination which is based solely on the study
of medical literature. [available to members from our lending library...] Knowing all this, I reached an inevitable conclusion that we don't need any vaccines at all. There is only one immunity, natural immunity, which is achieved by going through the infectious diseases of childhood. No children at this age should die from any of these diseases: if they do, it is due to medical mismanagement, As I pointed it out at the seminars on dangers of vaccination organised by the Royal Australia College of GP's (the postgraduate training program for GP's), to which I was invited to present the case against vaccination, if doctors administer antibiotics to a child with measles, they are asking for trouble. Antibiotics, another sordid chapter in the medical assault on the immune system, knock out
the gut flora, suppress the immune system and cause serious side effects while the affected children are going though infectious diseases.

You may be told by some groups warning about side effects of vaccination that I am radical. Not only do I consider this highly defamatory, but also very unwise and illogical: is it radical knowing what I know (which includes ample published evidence that vaccines to not provide any benefit, because they do not protect against infectious diseases, and that reactions are very prevalent, affecting practically all vaccinated children to a lesser or greater degree) and therefore be against all vaccinations?

Is it reasonable whilst knowing that one in about 270 children in California suffer autism, that one in 250 U.S. children suffers some form of serious behavioural and learning disability, not withstanding that one in 500 children develop leukaemia and cancer which are also caused by vaccination and knowing that infectious diseases are beneficial for children by priming and maturing the immune system and representing developmental milestones and still be looking for better vaccines?

There is no such thing as a better vaccine: the introduction of the pathogen (and many other contaminating agents and toxic substances) is not going to result in immunity. Officially, the immunological research has been demonstrating since the turn of this century that vaccine injections do not immunize: they sensitise, make the recipients more susceptible to diseases which the vaccine is supposed to prevent, but also to a host of unrelated bacterial and viral infections. Vaccinated children suffer a never ending stream of ear infections, which in
the U.S. alone cost some 3 billion dollars per year.

A young Australian lady, living in England, organized one of my many seminars there and told me that her father told her "go to Viera's seminars and do not vaccinate your children. All those ear infections, and problems like glue ear, are caused by vaccination". When I asked her who is her father, she said "he is an ENT specialist in Brisbane, Australia". I also asked her whether he tells other parents to do the same thing. This is not a singular example of the dishonesty of the vaccination system that they are afraid to take their own medicine.

The Medical Observer in Australia published my response to an attack by a fanatical pro-vaccinator in which I challenged him to go on television, allow himself to be injected with the baby vaccines adjusted to his body weight by a doctor of my choice and in my presence (the article is enclosed). We haven't heard from him. I think that this is a reasonable request to be issued to all vaccinators. And let's just watch the horror in their eyes. I think that I outlined to you some of the essential facts about vaccination.

Mandatory vaccination in the USA is indeed an arrogant insult to the American Constitution, freedom of choice and to just plain human decency and represents medical tyranny. It must be discontinued if the U.S. wants to continue claiming to be the guarantor of freedom for all and from all forms of tyranny. Charity starts at home.

Dr. Viera Scheibner

T1mB0 • 8 years ago

A letter is not a peer-reviewed publication. Sorry.

CumExApostolatus • 8 years ago

So, in your brain-bombed head, a normal, healthy baby just simply dies -'sudden'(ly) and of course, of a 'syndrome', because the 'experts' need a couple of buzz words thrown in along with 'infant death' (the oh-so-convenient "SIDS') in order that they can throw suspicion off of the obvious culprit (vaccines) and so that the military-industrial-pharmaceutical complex deflects the heat off of themselves when they REFUSE to add 2+2 and get to 4. Vaccines maim and kill all of the time, day-in and day-out. Pharma knows it, insurance companies know it, government knows it, 'doctors' know it, nurses know it, and even the brain-bombed know it. BUT, it's just too complex to stand up to the Military-Industrial-Pharmaceutical complex. It's easier to roll over and play dead or get dead. That's how little we love the life God gave us.

Barbara Yurich • 8 years ago

live to be old that also is dangerous as they give seniors a double dose of flu vaccines, one nursing home 5 died from it, research, research, research! I believe NO vaccination should be given to ANY baby without the parents right there giving their consent, even the hep shot right in the hospital that they don't need!!!!!!

sabelmouse • 8 years ago

sids just means sudden infant death. vaccines are the reason so many childrem, if they survive them, ate chronically ill.

T1mB0 • 8 years ago

Vaccines don't cause SIDS (or Autism)- that was settled a long time ago

sabelmouse • 8 years ago

it was settled. they do.

T1mB0 • 8 years ago

Um, no. These things have been extensively studied. Have you been living in a van down by the river?

sabelmouse • 8 years ago

no, have you? depends on whether you look at corporate science or independent science.

not that corporate science really concerns itself very much with safety. why should they? they have no liability and just deny, along with most members of the medicine club.

T1mB0 • 8 years ago

People who think there are different types of science are typically paranoid idiots with ZERO scientific background...

sabelmouse • 8 years ago

deary me! it's not about different kinds of science , it's about how it's used. what's done with it, what's being looked at, what's being hidden.

Bieber before hos • 8 years ago

The hospital misdiagnosed the death. They are not allowed to say,"death by vaccine" on death certificate.

Chris Flowers • 8 years ago

"when Matthew was 5 ½ month’s old"... Malpractice.

shotofhealth • 8 years ago

No, the malpractice is giving vaccines per se. You are trying to defend the indefensible.

CumExApostolatus • 8 years ago

What is maddening is that this woman didn't have the 'cojones' to go down to that hospital and rip heads off starting at the top of the 'administrative' ladder on down. How can a parent go weeks without receiving the body of her child without losing her freaking mind? How 'trusting' (I'm trying to be charitable here) does one have to be before one goes to the hospital morgue and take people apart with one's bare hands? How can you not know that you are being royally screwed, left-right-and-center?

shotofhealth • 8 years ago

I agree with you Ponerology, the problem is that we are all brought up to trust the medical profession and it takes a HUGE amount of defiance to start fighting with them. But also this lady was grieving for her child (and still is) and who knows how she found a way to cope? Everyone is different in how we cope with death and grief, especially a child. I cannot judge her and I don't think anyone else can either. What we need to judge harshly is 'the system'. The system murdered her child and then hung the mother/parents/family out to dry. The system is corrupt and unfortunately the system includes the judiciary.

CumExApostolatus • 8 years ago

You get no argument from me regarding the system (including the non-elected, appointed for life, "supremes" and all the rest), BUT, I can, by her own testimony, objectively judge her lack of backbone and fighting spirit for her own flesh and blood. Yes, one can be in shock, one can mourn, one can be cowed by 'experts' who give us a condescending pat on the head and tell us to shut up and sit down. But, where does it end?
If people DON'T stand up to the system and those minions within the system who help run it (whether willingly or because they are too screwed up in the head to see what they're doing, OR too amoral/immoral to care) then the system will keep screwing joe public over, and over, and over again.

N R • 8 years ago

2013 !!!!

sabelmouse • 8 years ago

???

N R • 8 years ago

Interesting article but it isn't news. It's almost 2 years old.