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The world leaders will one day have to answer for keeping quiet and not doing anything to solve this problem.Words are cheap. Holding meetings and meetings without taking a drastic decision to act will not change the present situation.
Those "World Leaders" you expect to 'solve this problem' aren't Superheroes; they are normal human beings who (supposedly) represent everyday people like you and me. So here's you opportunity to tell them what they should do. What would be your 'solution'?
It`ll fall on deaf ears I`m afraid. All politicians are interested in is being re-elected. Talk is cheap. The solution as far as I am concerned is to help the countries affected, to stop people from making the journey. Europe is in turmoil and overcrowded, it`s social security systems are creaking everywhere and must not be left to collapse.
Agree and the only solution we all have to do, and not to worried behind the scene for them dying
You cannot be serious. I hope i misunderstand your comment "not to worried behind the scene for them dying". Do you even have a heart?
That's easier said than done when many migrants come from Syria, Iraq, Somalia and leave from the other failed state that is Libya.
So, what do you propose? Turning a blind eye until such time as there are thousands around and the government has to raise taxes to support them, when they start building mosques next to our churches. Start positive discrimination in their favour? Start thinking before it`s too late.
I am not disagreeing with you, I am just pointing out that there are no easy solutions.
For example you mentioned helping affected countries - but how can we "help" Syria, Iraq, Somalia etc. in the short term. Stopping the migrants from leaving could work as a short term solution but needs some sort of support from Libya - a failed state.
Where I disagree with you is on the fears you have from migrants. I have no problems with migrants coming over (and building mosques if necessary), what I am concerned about is people dying.
I have no fears of migrants. You have to experience it to know what you are talking about. I have seen it ! I too am concerned about people dying, But in this life we have to make choices and live with the consequences. You have to be cruel to be kind.
You have seen what?
We will become the corpses floating in the sea and for sure no muslims will think of saving us.
Read the Quran. Its all available for free through google.
In the past some world leaders were quick to intervene in areas where there are natural resources, but not in other areas which did not have natural resources.So where they want (or rather where they see that they can gain something) they take decisions and act.
Once again, you're just telling us what we already know... Like we need a history lesson. - You're still calling for them to take action, so what ACTION would YOU suggest 'they' take?
Or are you simply having a moan?
Pippo, they have the experts, know-how and assets at their disposal.I am not an expert to even dare to suggest something to them.All I know is when it was convenient for them they intervened quickly.
you also have a brain, so use it if you expect others to do so.
I use my brains in the profession I was trained in.I let others use their brains in the sectors they were trained in.
Perhaps a UN force to land on Libya shores and restore order? Perhaps it's a tall order but there is no other way. But then the so called world leaders are only prepared to shoot at dictators they don't like from the air, or better still use drones.
NoThe UN has no right to invade any country.
Like V. Mercieca said, talk is cheap and nobody is doing anything to stop this absolute madness! The fault lies with the EU and the US 100%. I repeat, it was them who created all this mess! Shame on the disgusting, despicable politicians!!
"The EU and the US... created all this mess"...?What? - the outpouring of sub-Saharan refugees into Europe?
Another three more questions to add to the litany thereof .Any chance of any attempt at answers -and not in relation to parenthood , fatherhood or marriage please ?
How did the EU (that is you, me, and the rest of us in Europe) cause this mess ? Enlightenment please
How did the US cause this mess ?
The rest of us in Europe is not the EU -as there are another 29 countries /states that make up Europe per se .How about that for ''enlightenment ''?
So how did these other 29 countries that make up Europe Quote: `` create all this mess ``?
The only reason these countries are in turmoil is because the western powers have been interfering, by conveniently eliminating their leaders and trying to impose democracy on them, in an attempt to ensure their natural resources are not fully controlled by such "dictatorship" leaders. Just as happened with Russia, were Putin controls the major supply of gas. The west does not like to have to negotiate with these leaders, so they invent all sort of excuses to get rid of them.They first turn these leaders into super villains via CNN/BBC propaganda, and when the people have been brainwashed, they invade the country, without ever having proven the facts, such as the weapons of mass destruction of Saddam, and the rapes of Gaddafi, the nuke trigger happy Putin, etc...
Since democracy does not work in these countries, when you get rid of these leaders, the country falls into turmoil and the revolutionary groups that assisted the western invasion, become the western armed terrorists groups, such as Al-Qaeda. The interference is also viewed as oppression and therefore allows these terror groups the popular support they require to survive. In the end, it all comes back to us in the form of terrorism and mass migrations.
In short, we are reaping what the west has sown in the last 40years, as Joe Grech said.
The root of the problems in the ME is the conflict between Sunni and Shia, RE: Iran Vs Saudi + Qatar their down stream influences, namely funding terrorists (Qatar: Hamas; Others: Al Qarda/ISIS; Iran: Shia in Iraq); What there is now is the Ripple Effect.
The conflict between Sunni and Shia started when Mudammed (Islam Prophet) died without male children (direct heirs). One relative claimed to be the heir and was accepted by some, while other moselms refused to recognise him.
But the source of the problem lies in the Quran verses which indoctrinate muslims that they are supreme, that Islam should dominate the world through the sword verse and others.
One has to look holistically at the problem, from the source, through history, in order to understand the whole scenario to-day.
Yes, I agree, their problems go back hundreds of years and I also agree, Islam is not one of the peaceful religions in my books. But the west should have never interfered in their internal disputes, as now it has overflowed into a global crisis.I believe, the ME can never have a democracy and they had dictators for a purpose. But now, the balance that kept these places in check (From a global perspective) has been upset.
I would fire your verbal guns toward the UN about the inaction. It is illegal to invade or attack other countries borders without UN resolution, except of course unless if you happen to be called Russia that is.
The fault is with the governments where there is conflict because they are incapable of proper administration.
Give them European Passports, if they are sympathetic.. they will soon do something from the source and not allow these poor people to die, and the heaviness that is falling on Malta and Italy.
They are the people who enslaved them, used them, plundered their wealth during their colonisation, left them ignorant and now they are staying idle while our little island is taking some of these immigrants in. Where are Germany, Italy, UK, Holland etc, etc, etc?
Germany, the UK, the US and others have been pouring huge amounts of money into developing countries including Africa for several years.
So they say and yet they are still coming
They say they have been pouring money and yet these migrants are still trying to escape. They need to do much more than that.
What obligation does Europe (us) have and why ?
"Most European countries colonised most African countries, plundered them, left them uneducated and when they felt it was the right time, they bolted. Now the time has come for these countries to confess their SIN and start helping them in all aspects possible to improve their standard of living. I know that what I am saying will not happen however, it is high time that the EU gets a jump start towards this situation" I said this before.
Africa is a huge region. It is not one country. It is made up of many countries. EU and US money have been pouring into the many countries that want education, medical health, transporation, urban infrastructure and technologies .
It is the corrupt governments in Africa and the governments that liason with militials as ISIS and Boko Haram that are plundering African countries.
The EU and the US should not interfer in their internal affairs.
Generalizations. Which parts of Africa did Malta colonize ?
S.Africa was colonized by whites and the effect was that S. Africans could develop commercially after the political change because they already had a civilization, established farms which they grabbed and stole from whites, businesses which they grabbed. So S. Africans did well.
Burkina Fasio is doing well, particularly in adopting urban infrastructure and education. Kenya is doing extremely well.
Who are the ones who are going under ? The ones with corrupt governments. The ones that collaborate with Boko Haram instead of protecting citizens with soldiers.The ones who collaborate wil Al Shabab.
As for Libya. WEeall know about the divisions and militias fighting against each other. We are familiar with the Libyan way of thinking: fighting is inscribed in the mentality.
I don`t see how Malta and Europe and all of us are responsible for this.
they are coming for what was once their own
They should go to those countries that plundered them. Malta is definitely not one of those countries.
Like what ?
What does Malta have which belongs to Libyans, Solais, Eritreans, Syrians...
What have we taken from the Libyans, the Somalis, the Eritreans, the Syrians, etc
Maltese history and historical artifacts clearly demonstrate that Malta has been regularly attacked, plundered, robbed, people captured and enslaved by muslims from the ME throughout the ages in keeping with the verses of the Quran. To-day we can no longer pretent that the plundering of Malta by muslims through the ages did not happen, because this strategy continues to manifest itself before our very eyes. ISIS is implementing the Quran as it was written.
Maltese were also captured by muslims from North Africa. There are cemteries which house Maltese because christians are not allowed to be buried in muslim cemetries.
In contrast Malta has sent aid to Africa through various agencies. As children at school we contributed directly money, clothes and other things which africans then used as materials to create objects which they sold.
Specifically, who plundered who ?Most of the ME has been a desolate desert. There are book written by travellers throught the ages.The are documents that describe Jewish tribes all over Arabia, their trade routes through the desert.There is historical information on Mecca and Medina in Saudi; the successive conquerers, the onset of Muhammed`s massacres of the Jews and subsequently the Christians.
Saudi holds most oil resources and is the most important political force. Iran wants to outdo Saudi and become THE POWER in the ME. That is why it wants to have nuclear weapons
The ME turmoil stems from this.
Ask the Europeans and the blacks in the US
Who colonized Libya?
Sink/confiscate/impound every [ empty ]boat moored on the north african coast. Akin to churchill sinking the french fleet in port. A totally reasonable and precedented action.Lives saved problem SOLVED.
Firm but fair. Efficacious. Easy. Will upset the african ' governments' GOOD.We are upset as they are sending us all their people.
The african locals would have to eat tinned fish for a bit. While the fish stocks recover.
Malta could be allowed to fish their waters to recoup the cost.Win win. Where there is a will there is a way.' A little less conversation a little more action please' as elvis said.
LIke it or not it is the responsibility of world leaders to deal with this issue. With power goes responsibility.
It is the responsibility of the governments of the countries where the refugees are coming from, to look after their citizens and to control human traffiking.
Agreed but given the state of their administrations it is expecting rather a lot of them to comply and world leaders must play their part which they have failed so far to do.
Governments of other countries are not responsible for the administration of other countries. That is regarded as interfering in other countries affairs and treated as such using terrorism. LESSONS LEARNT.
Moreover, collaboration between countries is based on agreements. For some agreements are just bits of paper or as the Quran advises, ``until something better comes`` when the agreement is abrogated.
Moreover African migrants in African countries are themselves being chased away on the pretext that they are taking the locals`jobs.
So whatever Europe will attempt to do, will denounced as wrong