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PhotM • 8 years ago

Hi Arun,

This maybe a bit to advanced for some user??? I don't know but did you consider this KB 939844:

https://technet.microsoft.c...

Section: Registry keys for Automatic Update configuration options

The registry entries for Automatic Update configuration options are located in the following subkey:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU

The keys and their values are listed in the following table.

I use the following Registry Keys:

NoAutoUpdate
NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers

It is not 100% but for most Updates, one still has to CLICK "Check For Updates" manually to get them. I have not push things far enough to STOP immediate D/L and Install at that point, though. If one does this one does need to set up Windows Defender Task Schedules for Scanning and Definition Updates which have been reported on here in the past and is now working again starting in Build 10130.

I will edit in the actual Registry Entry next time I am on my W 10 partition.

Hope this helps,

Crysta

Arun Kumar Acharya • 8 years ago

Thank you Crysta, for the information.

Hyde • 8 years ago

Hello Arun Kumar

I am using a mobile broadband via a USB modem. I only got 5GB per month. A problem I have been having is that sometimes a huge chunk og my monthly data (and sometimes all of it) gets used in a matter of minutes. Can that be Widows doing updates?

merz • 8 years ago

Indeed. I have the same problem. If tweaks doesn't work for you, go to process list, Ethernet, and disable svchost.exe process, which consume most bandwitch. I think it's Windows Update behind. Unfortunately the process will resume again and again after couple hours

Millieeee011 • 7 years ago

Hi Arun, I have a problem that whenever I go to store to update a app it gives me a pop up saying, "Turn On Windows Update". Anyway I can fix that?

Arun Kumar Acharya • 7 years ago

No. You'll hv to enable Windows Update before updating store apps or Office. You can always turn it off later.
I heard they r including options for Windows Updates in next release so it should be easier for us. :)

setintwit • 8 years ago

Thanks for sharing this! It does in fact seem like a better option than stopping the service altogether. I am sure there are those that would prefer either way, but to still be able to get updates without installing them is right up my alley.

eric noack • 6 years ago

The windows update is not available in the registry to home editions which most people use.

Arthur • 6 years ago

Rubbish! It can NOT be disabled PERMANENTLY. You can STOP It and then set it to disabled. You can then go into the RECOVERY tab and set everything to TAKE NO ACTION and set the fail count to 9999

BUT WINDOWS ALWAYS RESETS THIS SECRETLY IN THE BACKGROUND. I have tried this 12 times in the last month and Win10Home catches me out every time. I have a 32gb Asus tablet too. And there ain't enough space on the C drive for all their crap to download so it aborts and freezes my screen requiring action. Now the thing is being used as a useless live clock and weather screen on the TV stand. Thanks Microsoft

There is also no way to alter the registry keys as you describe above because they SIMPLY DONT EXIST IN WIN10HOME

this Asus is going in the Recycling bin soon - 150 pounds or not..... i HATE being dictated to

disqus_Iqtlvk7Fr3 • 6 years ago

hi, i have had the same issue.. windows just pushing it in the background.
lucky, i've recently found a fix. as in today!

in windows service, you have to disable "windows push notification also" problem being, is windows only allows one of the push notifications to be deactivated, and the first which cannot be deactivated, activates the second secretly in the background.

after disabling the Windows push notification and the windows update, left click the start menu, scroll down to "windows system", then right click "command prompt" follow the "more" arrow and select "run as administrator"

this will open a seperate window allowing you to manually enter commands.

type:
sc config WpnService depend= /
hit enter.

then type
sc config wuauserv depend= /
hit enter

this will disable the dependancies both push and update have which will stop them from secretly restarting in the background.

so far its working well for me.

Jack Edwards • 5 years ago

+PhotM I tried this and it worked for a few weeks and then Windows updated automatically. It doesn't work long term.

danwat1234 • 8 years ago

Can you disable the Windows Update service within the Services MMC as described above, in Windows 10 Home? Some people are saying you can't disable it in Home edition, just Pro/Enterprise. I bet they are lying.

Arun Kumar Acharya • 8 years ago

The service can be disabled in any version - to my knowledge. It is not restricted to Pro or Enterprise.

Guest • 8 years ago
Daniel Laemmerhirt • 6 years ago

Fantastic! If I want a new program, I will download it MYSELF. I do not need any updates to any of the preinstalled garbage I disabled.

Arthur • 6 years ago

Rubbish! It can NOT be disabled PERMANENTLY. You can STOP It and then set it to disabled. You can then go into the RECOVERY tab and set everything to TAKE NO ACTION and set the fail count to 9999

BUT WINDOWS ALWAYS RESETS THIS SECRETLY IN THE BACKGROUND. I have tried this 12 times in the last month and Win10Home catches me out every time. I have a 32gb Asus tablet too. And there ain't enough space on the C drive for all their crap to download so it aborts and freezes my screen requiring action. Now the thing is being used as a useless live clock and weather screen on the TV stand. Thanks Microsoft

There is also no way to alter the registry keys as you describe above because they SIMPLY DONT EXIST IN WIN10HOME

this Asus is going in the Recycling soon - 150 pounds or not..... i HATE being dictated to

PhotM • 8 years ago

If one is able to do these medium to deep dives into the system, what is the person doing with "Home" in the first place? That is also part of the thinking at Microsoft. "Home" is supposed to be for the nonknowledgeable user OR to be upgraded to Pro.

How often that is the case is anybodies guess???

Crysta

danwat1234 • 8 years ago

Some computer literate people buy new desktops and laptops with Home edition because that is the only option for that model or to save money. Though building your own desktop saves the most.
Could be also that a novice sees windows update running every day, asking to reboot and they happen to figure out it's the same update every day. They do a bit of Googling and find a lot of people have that problem with that model of computer and see a comment about disabling WIndows Updates (or running the WUshowhide troubleshooter) and perhaps a piece of software that came with the computer that updates the BIOS and other manufacture software and drivers is conflicting with Windows Updates.

But yeah most will not know or care about it being on all the time because it's a good thing and usually (and hopefully) won't cause problems.

Tyler • 8 years ago

There is no Windows 10 Pro

Anonymous • 8 years ago

Yes there is, where do you live?

There's 4 (technically 8) PC "editions":
-home
-pro
-enterprise
-education
then there's an "N"/"KN" version of all of those (which just means it doesn't come with "media" related software (IE media player)

Then of course you have your mobile and IOT editions too...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

Emre SUMENGEN • 8 years ago

There are a lot of places in the world where the Internet connection is not broadband, or just capped. I would not want someone in Redmond dictating me when and what updates I should be downloading, when I should restart my computer etc.

I guess that request is not only for the so-called "pro" users, right?

And, keep in mind, most of the pro (or enterprise) users will have pro level connections and bandwidth, while home users will be much more limited in that regard. (And, even though there's an option to set a wireless connection as "metered", it is nowhere to be found for an Ethernet connection.)

Making Windows automatically notify home users of updates, especially of critical ones might be understandable. But, any software or software company trying to take away the force of free will from their customers will eventually fail.

I guess, Microsoft will never learn how people are and what they want, no matter how many iterations of start menus they design.

Kyle Hicks • 7 years ago

There are three things that will save Microsoft though-Office, from which they also make a mint off of the Macintosh users as well as the Windows users-because let's face it-it's a load better than Apple's knock-off Pages, Numbers, and Keynote-the fact that for the average home PC user, Windows is the simplest and easiest and most secure operating system to use-most won't use Linux, as Linux is more intended for software development, not home use, and Mac OS X is known for not having the best security and having Apple snooping around within it more than Windows 10 is alleged to be, and also alledgedly leaving back doors in it deliberately for people to steal your personal data, and let's not forget Microsoft's chokehold over the console gaming industry with XBOX. So my point, you ask? Regardless if people stop using Windows, they will still be around due to the fact Office is the number one office productivity product in the world and that XBOX is one of the bestselling, if not the bestselling, console platform currently out there.
And I don't see Windows 10 failing-the fact that you soon will be able to access your save data, sign up for memberships, and renew XBOX Live subscriptions right from the Windows Store as well as the fact you will be able to better stream XBOX games to your PC seems to me like it will sell Windows 10 to even more people than it has.

Appaljack • 7 years ago

I find a lot of the above to be hooey as I have been in computers for 33 years. You can elect not to have Apple use your data. True with Windows? Nope. But I agree that Office is a well-done program that keeps up because you can get it on Apple iOS or OS X. One-drive has been well-tweaked in the last year especially since the Pros hit the market and Office re-did it so you can use a touch screen or Apple Pencil to draw directly in it. Mcrosoft 'gave up' when they quit Tablet PC 2005 on the Gateway and Acer computers with touchscreens. (It worked great because I had one). That virtually destroyed further progress until Apple picked up that ball with the iPad/iPhone as well as a few Android models. I hate plasticky stuff so never got Android anything. I like a solid iPhone or iPad. Office works absolutely great on it though not as much choice as PC. But I have one to do that in stuff that is more complicated though I rarely use it. iPads do the job 97% of the time. The size and weight are great for holding and battery power is legendary at 10 hours (depending on use). This was in repliy to Kyle Hicks.

Kenna • 7 years ago

Appaljack : don't know where you got the idea that you can stop Apple from using your data. Read the ToS again for Apple - they can use anything and everything, and they can take anything and everything. The difference is Microsoft is more open about it.

Not that either is good, mind - but if you want privacy you should be on Linux anyway.

Kyle Hicks • 7 years ago

Yeah, I found a lot of that not to be true myself recently. I bought an iPhone and I have never seen a moblie device so secure. It's actually made me consider getting a MacBook Pro down the road.

Being I'm in college, though, for NOW, I got me an ASUS ultrabook, as I'll likely buy a replacement computer in 4 years as it is.

Appaljack • 7 years ago

When I was in college I had a Surface, sold it, then got a Macbook Pro to go with my iPhone and iPad. The nice thing is having stuff just auto-appear on your other machines but you do have to diligently protect data on a source not tied to updates as Apple is famous for changing file markers so you have to redownload from the cloud as well as reload apps sometimes which gets frustrating. One company recently allowed workers to choose W or Mac. They chose Macbooks. MS recently torpedoed a perfectly good W7 Toshiba with their nagware and the W10 update ruined my machine which necessitated a new HP and printer since the old one could not work in wifi land. The cost, though, was considerably lower than a Macbook, --about 1/2.

Erwin Anciano • 7 years ago

Auto-appearing is a feature that Windows has had for a long time. Dropbox predated all this "Stuff on my MacBook magically shows up in my other machines!" nonsense.

Appaljack • 7 years ago

Beyond a few free gb, Dropbox now requires payment. I have a TB with Office 365 included on One-Drive.

Grey Haven • 8 years ago

My laptop came with windows 8 home. I didn't ask for pro or super duper or extraordinary, I just wanted a computer that worked. One doesn't have to have pro to be a superuser. That's like saying unless you read Shakespeare you can never be a poet. That's shallow thinking, friend. 8 sucked. 8.1 was a little better but still sucked. Now I wish I could go back to 8.1. It is far superior to 10. In fact, EVERY OS previous to it is! 10 is a nightmare. I hate 10.

Kyle Hicks • 7 years ago

See I was thinking like you before the November update. Seems to have fixed a lot of the issues that were plaguing Windows 10 from launch. Other than the one that this article mentions, though. But personally? I don't really view that as an issue-Microsoft is known for rolling out security updates to their OS weekly-it's what makes it the most secure operating system for the beginner user and for office use. And let's face it-it's a lot better than Mac OS X, where most of the updates are almost 100% focused on making it look pretty and are quite sporatic, thus making the OS very insecure.
So I really don't view the auto updates as that big of an issue personally-fact, I see it as a solution to a problem. I've seen on many Windows forums people being infected with malware and viruses...which could have been prevented by keeping their Windows updated with Windows Update, which they did not. Some of them said they had to bring it to a computer repair shop and have a hard drive replaced because the virus bricked it. So ultimately, this seems to e to be Microsoft's answer to that problem. I don't see why you'd want to disable it unless you really knew what you were doing.
My personal assessment on Windows 10? Wasn't always the best OS, and at times it ran worse than 98 early on, but now, it has most definitely smoothed out its edges with the November update and is well on its way to overall being a pretty solid operating system, on par with 7.

Mangy Critter • 7 years ago

Win 10 was a cakewalk compared to the Anniversary update. "A" even required new video cards that base 10 did not on some Dell systems with Intel mobo graphics. Neither Dell nor Intel offer win 10 drivers for the system, but 10 basic works fine while "A" just gives a black screen. I don't really like throwing $50 at every system whenever M-soft decides to do an update.

Appaljack • 7 years ago

I did the above but rarely use Windows, now. iPhone7 and iPad Pro are a dynamite duo with Office. Managed to preserve data with the iOS10 update of the iPad. Oddly enough, MS is keeping Office for iOS well-maintained. Not sure why that team is so good but they are.

Tom • 8 years ago

Home is as much supposed to be for non tech savyy users as Pro & Enterprise are... Pro is first and foremost about more security and a few business oriented functionalities (using Microsoft own services), and Enterprise is basically pro with extra network security.

Jesse • 7 years ago

I'm relatively new to having to do anything to my computer to get it to function properly (something I've had to learn specifically because of Windows 10). But it's not hard to pinpoint what's causing damage on a computer or to google how to fix it. Microsoft seems to think we're all my grandma--had her computer for years and doesn't know what a browser is, how to install a program, or that an error message can actually tell you what happened so you can solve it--but that's not the case.

And even Grandma's computer should have options available for admin accounts since the computers still need to be adjusted, updated, fixed, or WHATEVER by other people when things go wrong! The current system is completely illogical and reverses one of the reasons I go with Windows over Mac (complete control over MY OWN computer as a layperson)!

Lone Gunman • 5 years ago

A cure for Windows 10 automatic updates/upgrades? It's called Linux Mint v18 and it's an excellent operating system. And not only that, it will run on old hardware just fine!! I've been using it now since 2009 when my Windows box got hacked and I've never had that problem again!

Try it, you'll like it!!

driven01 • 8 years ago

It seems the group policy option about auto-updates is ignored in the release version of Windows 10. Disappointing. Might have to schedule the service to be enabled / disabled (using the above technique)

Ivan Barros • 8 years ago

Can you confirm this? Sources? Thanks.

driven01 • 8 years ago

My source is that I tried it, and that was my result. You can try it for yourself if you like.

Patrick Ray • 8 years ago

This is incredibly stupid of Microsoft and it's why I hated my Surface RT. So basically when I travel I can't use my freaking laptop tethered to my cell phone because Microsoft has deemed it necessary to force me into updates.... because people want to waste an exorbitant amount of data while tethered. I wish there was an uninstall button.

Geon Ymous • 8 years ago

Many thanks brother, going to share this page with as many people as I can.

Carrigon • 8 years ago

Disabling the service stops you from being able to install new Store apps. You have to turn it back on for that. It's annoying, but I think this is how I'm going to have to do it. I don't want automatic updates.

Grey Haven • 8 years ago

Don't care about the store apps. They all suck and they are few and far between anyways. I have all the apps I need on my Android phone. Microsoft is just trying to be the next Apple and Android and they are failing miserably. I hope this windows 10 fiasco does them in once and for all.

Kyle Hicks • 7 years ago

See, I read this cuz I thought there was a way to delay them now. But I personally do not want to disable updates. Why? Microsoft releases weekly security updates, thus making it harder for a virus or malware to get onto your computer. An AV is an extra screen, and my Malwarebytes makes it all that much harder. So you see...I don't want to disable the auto updates, and the article fails to mention something-you CAN put off updates. If you have it set to schedule them for a time where your computer is not being used, and you walk away from it, and it detects that it's inactive for a period of time, it will first alert you that an update was installed and needs to reboot if the computer's inactive, but gives 3 minutes to put it off or to start the reboot. You can do that as long as you need to on Windows 10 Home. It's not pretty, but it works.

Carrigon • 7 years ago

I prefer to control my computer, my way. I don't want to be reminded of restarts or have it do anything without my controlling it. But the point you are missing is if an update auto installs and messes up your system, you could have a whole new world of problems trying to fix what it broke. I prefer to pick and choose. But I'm more than experienced at it and know what I'm doing.

ALSO something that I can't understand. Why are people defending windows auto updates if they were ALWAYS there? I remember back in XP being reminded that by turning off the windows would install it's updates.
It isn't something new to 10, the only difference is that now you don't have the option to turn it off, it even comes as default on in windows 8.

Erwin Anciano • 7 years ago

I have always turned off Auto Updates since XP.

Kyle Hicks • 7 years ago

Oh, I was not saying that I disagree there shouldn't be an element of choice, Carrigon. Actually, I've come to the stance of wanting to as well without registry hacks or I'm gonna switch to Mac after this laptop dies.

Why? I've since learned, from people telling this and from experience, that 9 times out of 10 Windows updates are more trouble than good.

Erwin Anciano • 7 years ago

Been using computers for 30 years. I haven't had a virus since I was ten years old. If you know what you are doing viruses and Malware can't do anything to you.

Virus and Malware defense updates is hokey. I've never had a problem.

Kyle Hicks • 7 years ago

If it's all the same to you, I know a thing or two as well, but they like to slip through the cracks. There are plenty of them to sneak through on Windows 10. Therefore, I have them there just in case. And by the way, if you've used Windows 8 or 10, you're getting them with or without you wanting them, as Windows Defender is on by default, and unless you disabled it, and if so I question your level of experience as there is a REASON they exist, you're still getting updates for Defender.

By the way, I've been using computers for about 15 years, and have only had maybe 2 in that time, and I found OUT about them thanks to said updates for said AV that I happened to have been using. However, the Windows ones I will agree are garbage, as if you have an AV and/or anti-malware software installed, there's really no use to get them.

Adi • 5 years ago

Hello, I have two questions related to the post:
1. 3 months ago I stopped and disabled it through: service\windows update. But yesterday, windows still updated my laptop. When I check it, the files was changed to windows 10 update facilitation service, and I can't choose it again from running to stop, or automatic to disabled. Do you know how to solve it?

2. Is Windows Defender Firewall / Antivirus effective and quite excellent for nowadays viruses? Some of my friends suggest me to use Avast as well in addition to Windows defender. Since I need more space in my drive, I plan to uninstall it (Avast). Do you have any suggestion ?

Many Thanks,
Adi