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Pete_Ridley • 6 years ago

On 11th Feb. I had the privilege of attending a presentation in the House of Lords by Dr. Christopher Essex, Professor of Applied Mathematics at the University of Western Ontario. Dr. Essex has been researching climate modelling for decades and assured us that the models upon which the IPCC depends for its scare-mongering projections of climate catastrophe cannot reliably represent the real world in which we live.

Having been around for nearly 80 years and seen no significant changes in the different global climates I'm more inclined to pay attention to what Professor Essex has to say than heed the words of a journalist who has spent only 1 year researching the subject (http://dahrjamail.net/mourn....

We have no way of knowing what Nature intends to throw our way. All that we can do is adapt to it, as we always have had to do!

Best regards, Pete Ridley

Robert • 6 years ago

"...denial section of this month's climate dispatch contains a healthy dose of delusion.."

Maybe fatal would work better than "healthy". Both for the exposure of the fallacies the science deniers espouse and for what their behavior is causing.

Thanks for the post; an amazing amount of solid research went into supporting multiple threads.

Bearzerker • 6 years ago

Global warming... we all keep hearing about Global warming...

has anyone seen the the HBO episode of VICE featuring the Fukishima Reactor disaster and its political cover-up and continuing problems... nuclear contamination alone could kill the planet because of its genetically altering/corrupting DNA capacities, which will only show results 3-4 generations later... when was Hiroshima ...Bikini atoll, Kamchatka etc... cancers prior to these events were rare but now they're getting to be common...

We have so many problems with the planet with resource extraction, logging mining etc and the accumulative effects plus pollution they pose...

its not just global warming which has been shown to be a solar system wide phenomena but the accumulative effects of our activities for the past 100 years or so... wars and disease are are gonna get worse and will cause more problems in a few years...

all Life won't have a chance unless we develop technologies to absorb these pollutants today...

dean • 6 years ago

word.

saw the vice piece.

and yet despite the problems, nuclear lobbyists continue to lie to the public by making it sound like nuclear is safe and they have all the answers to the problem figured out. when $$$$$$ can be made, safety, humanity, environment go out the window.

didn't warbama double down on nuclear recently?

just one more evidence that those in leadership are insane.

Aimee • 6 years ago

This is the first time that I've seen references to the radio-isotope pollution to the world (and the USA's west coast) caused by 4 GE reactor meltdowns at the Daiichi nuclear power installations at Fukushima, Japan. The global warning proponents just keep on warning about climate change and IGNORING this deadly nuclear meltdown pollution. The Pacific Ocean's marine life along the US's west coast is suffering unimaginably, it is approaching dieoff, yet the US and the EU remain in mega denial. See the blog enenews.com .

dean • 6 years ago

in england, after fox hunts, the affluent people threw out hot pennies to the poor. The reason behind the pennies being thrown hot, was that the affluent people who threw out the pennies took great delight in seeing the peasants burn their fingers whilst collecting them.

http://www.britishpathe.com...

1% = sociopathic

Di • 6 years ago

Wondering how many believe the weather is killing people? Sorry dont buy this article. We are consuming gobs of poisons (GMOs), being rained on by chemtrials, water that is laced with toxic chems and of course air that is polluted. The idea that the weather is causing deaths is ludicrous. Heard on a weather station that kidney disease was on the rise because the weather. LOL Do know that Gmos are linked to kidney disease. Take your article , Mr. Jamil, to CNN ..sure there are many sheep there.

Robert • 6 years ago

It's fun with transparent strawman!

dean • 6 years ago

the earth is like a fire in a city. most citizens of the city don't care because it doesn't affect them. without a fire department, the fire slowly spreads only enraging those who are affected. not until the fire has engulfed most of the city will the public will there be enough outcry for there to be anything done about it. by then it'll be too late.

that's human nature. most people only care about what immediately affects them. global warming and other corporate malfeasence are theoretical for most average citizen to care.

life goes on.

paul walmark • 6 years ago

Reading the puerile comments of readers like didactic1 lead me to conclude that we can only hope for one conclusion if we choose to do nothing in the face of this catastrophe. That is that the extinction of the human race, which seems to be an infectious disease, comes sooner than the extinction of all the animals. That way, the Earth can recover from our plague, and continue as the beautiful place it was meant to be, without our destructive presence.

Aimee • 6 years ago

We have already unleashed enough nuclear pollution to the point that all life on earth will finally disappear, maybe within less than a century, unless some of it mutates to survival mode. The elites just care about their millions, that they think will save them. Not.

mulga mumblebrain • 6 years ago

The marching morons are a menace to the cosmos. Imagine if they had left this planet after wrecking it, then encountered a more highly advanced civilization. A benign culture would possibly either eliminate us as a menace, or quarantine us in the hope of moral development. A malignant culture, like Rightwing Homo destructans-well it wouldn't be pretty, but it would be pretty quick.

Guest • 6 years ago
DiamondJoe • 6 years ago

Charming, Bighead1883.

Abuse in lieu of political argument never fails to win friends and impress others. Not.

No wonder you became persona non grata back on IA, as did the other drop-in on this page today who also sought to stalk Mulga & myself here.

Will pass it on to admins, since there's no way that post's anything other than unsubtle & offensive harassment.

PS- Noting the up-vote there provided by another poster banned from independentaustralia for abuse & defamatory content, incl. false ad hominem claims about the owner of IA, as well as about me.

This upvote coming shortly after his having sought to lecture me on how terrible ad hominem posting is & claiming somehow I'm the one doing it - further exposing the insincerity of that rhetoric.

dean • 6 years ago

no matter how bad it gets, life goes on.

as long as life goes on, most will only care about making a living and enjoying life.

reality is people get used to chronic dysfunctions in our society. in fact people can get used to pretty much anything....13 years of wars and tortures america STILL calm as hindu cows.

if you're expecting people to change or get worries because of these reports, it's not working.

dean • 6 years ago

duh'mer'kah = frogs boiling slowly.

didactic1 • 6 years ago

doing a bad W imitation? 2000's over. Deal with the next ten yrs, right now progressives aren't doing too well.

ubu • 6 years ago

Dean, I do appreciate your emphasis on the poor Amerikans but they're not the only dumb ones. More than any other nation, they've been subject to the most severe manipulations. Perhaps, as the rest if the world wakes up, and not just that, but actually take to arms against the imperialists, they too will join the fray. I dare say, I hope it will all come in time enough to save our asses. I do believe that humans are not all bad. There have been up until this very moment, parts of humanity that have remained in touch with the balance and kept themselves subject to nature rather than presuming to be it's master. If only we could find a way to make that behavior hold over the rest.

dean • 6 years ago

no matter how bad things get, the world will not come to an end. life will just get tougher.

if you're waiting for the shoe to drop, it won't.

as for "good folks"....they are in the minority. in germany when fascism was rolling through, only a few minority spoke up and as a result were sent to concentration camps. history shows us that most people are just dumb selfish folks. that's hard to swallow but that's the truth.

Bearzerker • 6 years ago

we cant live in a nuclear environment some plants and bugs can but mammalian and aquatic life as we know it will cease to exist

the world wont end but being a rock in space doesn't mean anything either, sentient life is what matters to people but mother earth (Gaia) is about symbiotic life and how species co-depend on one another

Aimee • 6 years ago

Sorry--eventually life on earth will end unless some genius figures out how to null the effects of radioactive man-made pollution!

mulga mumblebrain • 6 years ago

At five or six degrees Celsius higher global average temperatures. which rise has occurred over a few decades in the past, at times when the rise in greenhouse gas emissions was far less rapid than at present, things would get very bad indeed. Life will survive, biodiversity will eventually return, but Homo destructans will be but a distant, bitter, memory.

dean • 6 years ago

i doubt that. the change is slow enough for capitalists to create new solutions....which inevitably create more problems.

but staying off the inevitable for $$$ is what the 1% are all about.

i don't fore see the dumdum population of human beings giving up on mass fossil fuel motored vehicles anytime soon. there are 1 billion motored vehicles on earth right now and growing and new developing countries like china and india and in the future africa will want more cars. this should begin to give you the scale of the problem.

Pgathome • 6 years ago

ACD, I remember making the same observation many years ago. Working in NYC for many years during the past few years a few times a year he subway would close due to rain. Never happened the previous 15 years. Rainfall now was torrential. Climate was changing in front of us.

didactic1 • 6 years ago

the unpleasant fact for ACLU type liberals is that privacy arising from vague due process precedents have lead us unable to impose managed population controls.Too foo elephants and tigers, too many people. Aside from increading time at expanding ugly energy gobbling resorts, just what are the long term plans of most people?

mulga mumblebrain • 6 years ago

'Too Foo'? Fine poet-poor transliteration, I'm afraid. Did you mean tofu? Long-term plan? To return to the carbon cycle. Should be a cinch.

didactic1 • 6 years ago

Foo Fighters. Foo. Horton Was A Hoo. Hoo Hoo. Foo.

Paul Easton • 6 years ago

but gun violence is increasing nicely. thank god for the nra.

didactic1 • 6 years ago

data?

Paul Easton • 6 years ago

stfu or i will kill you

Pgathome • 6 years ago

That ACLU that is the problem. You passed second grade - right? Because after reading your remark many may think you have not.

didactic1 • 6 years ago

Stuck in 1954? We're in the Post-Modern, info-transactional age. The Two dimensional First Amendment and the Parched document it's found in may please the Koch Bros and their flunkies. (Unless your name's Koch, I think you are in Category Number Two)

What's next, Pggy? "America's the Greatest Nation on Earth"? "Democracy is the Best"?
Ready for Hilary? I can see you are.

Pgathome • 6 years ago

I do not understand, but are you saying the ACLU started in 1954? Your other points seem confusing to me.

didactic1 • 6 years ago

ipse dixit.

Paul Easton • 6 years ago

The pace of the rise of public concern with climate change seems to be a lot slower than the pace of climate change. At this rate we are done for. So we might ask why.

We had the big damn climate march. A lot of people came and milled around in the streets. Has anything changed? Not as far as I can see.

Why not? I would guess because this wussy sort of dogooderism cuts no ice. The people who came think that nothing can be done because of the Republicans. They don't understand the larger picture and nobody tried to educate them.

I would propose that educating people re climate change is useless unless you educate them on the larger political context. Which is that the Demo party is almost as dedicated to climate change as their Repu siblings. They can safely make disapproving noises without damaging their sponsors because the Repus can be relied upon to block any government action. But the whole thing is a sham. They actually have the same values because they serve the same Masters. Until people understand this simple but inconvenient truth, nothing will change.

didactic1 • 6 years ago

A few mass epidemics, a few floods without insurance compensation, and massive tax hikes across the board to finance mandatory mass and communty transit, ban all air travel and coal use should do the trick. Now you can go the the climate march and then drive up to Quebec afterwards for gourmet eating and a week of skiing, getting drunk at resorts that sit on former forests that absorbed carbon and sheltered otters, beavers and moose. And that steak tartar from a factory farm!!!! UMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. Let's March, and then eat in a bistro in Brooklyn. MMMMM.

Paul Easton • 6 years ago

Go spend 30 bucks to ski on artificial snow. I guess most of the price goes into diesel fuel.

diane johnson • 6 years ago

hmmm! why not haul the chunks of arctic and glacial ice to the draught zones and replenish the wáter table? Australia the mddle east, and california and Texas could use a few thousand tons of ice here and there

Paul Easton • 6 years ago

build a pipeline to send east coast torrential rain to california where there is no rain. or pack up california and send it to florida.

Paul Easton • 6 years ago

and then pack up canadians and send them to mexico. leave their stuff. they can go back when it gets warmer. send the alaskans to new orleans.

didactic1 • 6 years ago

The Chinese oligarchs would love to have that contract!

ubu • 6 years ago

nonsense

diane johnson • 6 years ago

pipelines from wet zones and arctic ice melt instead of oil pipe lines

ruckndl • 6 years ago

In the final analysis, we are the ones who support the
energy industry and it is our standard of living that will need to change. So
picture how this will effect you.
Reorganize cities, building taller residences with a smaller footprint (the end
of suburbia); institute a carbon tax; end our love affair with the automobile— promote
car pooling subsidize and expand mass transit, walk and bike more; expand bike
paths;, and have shareable (zip) cars, ban gasahol; turn off the air
conditioner and dial the thermostat down in winter; rein in the militaries for
defense only and outlaw war; ban night
baseball; ban electric outdoor signs; shift from long distance truck to rail
transport; ride more trains and buses, fewer planes; promote conference calls
and web cams; promote zero population growth with free condoms and family planning
world-wide; many more people would become vegetarians or vegans; phase out the
cattle industry; discontinue bottled water; discontinue aluminum cans with and
without carbonation; maximize reusable bags and products; minimize or ban
disposables (Pampers, Ikea furniture); limit endless gadgets; end yearly auto
model changes; limit all the advertising, junk mail, most retail, etc.;
eliminate “fast junk food”; go to “slow food”; replace “fast fashion” with
“slow fashion”; bring back mending, alterations and local tailors; completely redesign production of
appliances, electronics, house wares, furniture, etc to be as durable and
long-lived as possible; bring back appliance repairmen and such; design and
build smaller housing to last for centuries and to be as energy efficient as
possible, to be reconfigurable, and shareable; recycle maximally, especially
aluminum cans; maximize solar and wind power; drive and accelerate more slowly;
practice regenerative agriculture; reverse deforestation, plant more trees;
climb more stairs; restrict spray cans;; eat and farm organic; use manual tools
instead of power tools, use rakes rather than leaf blowers; push rather than
power small mowers; replace lawns with vegetable gardens; compost as much as
possible; more stairs, fewer elevators; promote subsidies for renewal energy.

didactic1 • 6 years ago

Elimination of 75% of the population who primarily are low skill service workers with no manufacturing or agricultural skills would be far more efficient than building dehumanizing cities overstuffed with energy addicts. Your vegn view is wise, but impractical with the population that just en masse supported the Mega Consumer Super Bowl. Americans are neither "hard working" nor ready to sacrifice for the future of the planet,as claimed by our lying President.

Paul Easton • 6 years ago

people are more nurtitious than cows. recycle surplus people.

MountainMan23 • 6 years ago

Seven million of the global total 58 million deaths per year are attributed to pollution.
That's 12%, almost one in eight.

.. and getting worse ..

ElisianTime • 6 years ago

DAHR,
I would love to see a list of all the countries responsible for ACD, with those most responsible on a chart. I would also like a rating on the chart of their political will to stop ACD.
Would love to have names and contact info.
I know you have been writing about this for quite some time and can probably compile the data chart. This might help me and others to focus our action.
I also wonder if there are emails you might list of deniers so we can forward them your articles ;)

Timothy Maloney • 6 years ago
ElisianTime • 6 years ago

Thanks! So of I'm reading the charts right:
1. China
2. US
3.EU (European nations)
4 India
5 Russia
so no surprises except the Indonesian chart. I had no idea! So now.for the emails ;) so we can forward Dahl ' articles and make them go.viral. ;)