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Mean Girl • 4 years ago

Scumbag 'President' Tries to Float 'Conspiracy' Theory

We have seen this bad TV show before.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 2h
Sounding more and more like the so-called Whistleblower isn’t a Whistleblower at all. In addition, all second hand information that proved to be so inaccurate that there may not have even been somebody else, a leaker or spy, feeding it to him or her? A partisan operative?
Buckwheat • 4 years ago

The Trump-Ukraine Affair: What You Need To Know And What's Coming Next: Adam Schiff will make up more stories about Trump. He may even be in brown face (actually black face, but liberals say brown face to make it less offensive), during the next contrived hearing.

Pat Smith • 4 years ago
Mysticeti • 4 years ago

Here's a handy reference sheet for all the Trump apologists and Russian bots here to make excuses: https://www.snopes.com/fact...

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Pat Smith • 4 years ago

all that I ask is that the press treats a Republican President with the same fairness and objectivity as a Democrat Prez; and also that the law of the land is applied equally

But for years these things have not occurred. Nope. In the main stream media, Obama was lionized. Couldn't do a thing wrong for years. Lies about Obamacare, got a free pass in most of the media. Called ISIS the JV team and claimed it had nothing to do with Islam as ISIS beheaded innocent civilians, press still gave him a free pass. Obama early on made a statement as President that the police have a long history of racism against minorities when that white policeman and black professor had that mess in Cambridge, and it turned out the cop was just responding to a burglary, he still got a free pass;
a black woman who drove onto the WH property with a toddler in the car gets chased by capitol police and shot to death in her car with her kid watching, that gets minimal news reporting.

But if Trump says "s---hole country" the press is all over it. and it gets blown up into a big mess.

Pat Smith • 4 years ago

https://www.realclearpoliti...

Let us first allow an investigation of the democrat-Ukraine-Soros connection. See above.

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Pat Smith • 4 years ago

Calling up a leader of Ukraine when you are Joe Biden and telling that Ukranian person to stop the prosecutor from investigating the company your son is working for, or Joe Biden will withhold 1 billion dollars isn't really proper is it? And saying, "well I am going to be here for only 6 more hours..."
and then that prosecutor got fired. And Joe got to laugh all about it on video at a pubic appearance.
And did you see Rudy on Judge Pirro last night? Rudy claims that he has signed affadavits to back up what he says. The whistleblower only has hearsay.
Rudy also claimed that he uncovered an FBI agent working for George Soros, who is not American. Now I wish Rudy had said if the FBI agent was retired, or still active FBI or not. Rudy claimes he has a stack of written affadavits and hard evidence to back up what he says not just hearsay, unlike the whistleblower. Rudy stated that the FBI refused to get involved in the investigation. I find that interesting IF and I say IF it is true that there was an FBI agent working for George Soros who has plenty of NGOs in Ukraine. Rudy stated that the Ukraine ambassador from the USA who just resigned asked Rudy to do all this work , he did not do it independently. Rudy claimed that Obama had a meeting in the WH telling people around him that they had to dig up dirt on candidate Trump. Was that leaked to the press? why not? Let's shine some light on that. In addition, Judge Pirro showed a document signed into law by Bill Clinton that Ukraine and the USA had a joint international agreement that if there were international corruption involving their two countries they would share information
with each other to solve the corruption.
The corruption issue in Ukraine is part of the reason that the new President there was elected; the new President of Ukraine is a TV personality like Trump who had no politics experience like Trump and he was elected there to drain the swamp. He just got sworn into office this spring.

I say we need to investigate all of the above that I just wrote AND the main stream media should really put a spotlight on every thing Rudy said with the same positive light they give the democrats when they beat their drum for 2 years on Russia, Russia and there should be people like Nadler and Schiff grilling Obama, Biden, Biden's son, and the FBI agent the way they are grilling people connected to the GOP and Trump. The law and the press should apply their microscopes with equal strength and stop making it appear that everything Trump does is wrong or corrupt. otherwise we have a banana republic.

And how many politicians has George Soros paid off? hmmm.

MaybeYes_MaybeNo • 4 years ago

Calling up a leader of Ukraine when you are Joe Biden and telling that Ukranian person to stop the prosecutor from investigating the company your son is working for, or Joe Biden will withhold 1 billion dollars isn't really proper is it? And saying, "well I am going to be here for only 6 more hours..."

The demand that the prosecutor be fired was not something Joe Biden authored. Vice presidents don't make foreign policy. Foreign policy is the purview of the State Department. It is true that Joe Biden delivered the message to Ukraine that the prosecutor should be fired. But no one who understands foreign policy believes that Biden was freelancing and delivered this message to Ukraine without the knowledge and approval of both the State Department and the White House.

It's pretty common for vice presidents to deliver messages to foreign officials on behalf of the White House and State Department. Ask Mike Pence.

Pat Smith • 4 years ago

You may be correct that it is pretty common for VPs to deliver messages to foreign officials, however, that being said, you should see the interviews Rudy Guiliani gave on This Week with George Stephanopolos today and with Judge Pirro yesterday.

If Trump is being accused of a pay or play scheme, with the threat of impeachment, then Biden should get the same scrutiny or should have gotten the same scrutiny when he was in office.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Check out Rudy G debating with George Stepanopolous and IMO it is obvious how biased George is. He is a former advisor to the Dems so his bias is evident. Rudy is on around 7 minutes

Did you know also that Bill Clinton when POTUS signed a treaty between Ukraine and the USA that each country would help stop corruption in their countries? Judge Pirro showed us that document. If there was corruption in Ukraine..and there was...since they voted in a non politician new President who used to be an actor and comedian on TV (I am not joking, it is a real outsider like Trump , a TV personality who is now President of Ukraine) it makes sense that our President would want to ask the other leader about it, with that treaty as well as if corruption from Ukraine intertwined with our USA.

MaybeYes_MaybeNo • 4 years ago

If Trump is being accused of a pay or play scheme, with the threat of impeachment, then Biden should get the same scrutiny or should have gotten the same scrutiny when he was in office.

Not apples to apples. Foreign policy is ultimately set by POTUS, not the person who delivers the president's message. It's the policy maker who is accountable for the policy, not the messenger. The push for the prosecutor’s dismissal wasn’t Biden’s idea. It began with officials at the embassy in Kyiv, worked its way through the State Department and was approved by the president.

Did you know also that Bill Clinton when POTUS signed a treaty between Ukraine and the USA that each country would help stop corruption in their countries?

I have no problem with any president seeking action against corruption, especially when US funds are involved. If that tangentially benefits the president, so be it. However, if anti-corruption rhetoric is merely a cover to seek foreign assistance to aid in an election, that's another thing all together. Specifically identifying Crowdstrike and the Bidens and no one else as targets is what makes the call problematic.

Pat Smith • 4 years ago

we can go on and on disagreeing; I agree with some of your points.
Again, I feel that Trump is being unfairly 'prosecuted' by Congress and unfairly 'persecuted' by the press.

Both GOP and Dem politicans should get the same treatment not unequal treatment.

Pat Smith • 4 years ago
Pat Smith • 4 years ago

adding to the post that I just made, the US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovich was in her position under Obama. When Trump got into the White House, she told either one of the leaders of Ukraine or the head prosecuting attorney of Ukraine to not prosecute for corruption one of the NGOs of George Soros. George Soros has lots of NGOs in the Ukraine, this is all according to Jonathan Solomon an investigative journalist who I just heard on the radio. Supposedly Ms Yovanovich told Ukraine "we do not want you to prosecute the ----
NGO and this was not what the new President told her. Because of all that conflict she was fired.

Pat Smith • 4 years ago

I honestly believe that the news media (from which so many of us obtain information) is putting a nonobjective negative spin on this story. I just watched the CBS news with Nora O Donnell and could clearly see the bias in her choice of words.

I read the phone call transcript, at least what was released, and I did not see any thing in there about Trump threatening to with hold aide from Ukraine. The leader of Ukraine confirmed that. There was no quid pro quo

Guiliani also was on the Ingraham show and stated that he was asked by the state dept to be involved in Ukraine. That may be why congress is now sending a subpoena to Mike Pompeo as of today for all kinds of documents. If Guiliani was asked by the state dept to be involved then he did not just act on his own. Guilianni claimed that he got involved in Ukraine and its corruption because the FBI refused to do it.
Jonathan Solomon is an independent journalist who has written articles on George W Bush, Clinton and Obama and Trump. he is 'an equal opportunity offender" in his own words. He is not a partisan hack.He has interviewed a number of folks in Ukraine and he was told that 'what Russia is for Trump, Ukraine is for the Democrats."

In addition from the phone transcript, Trump mentioned the word Crowdstrike on page 3. Crowdstrike was the private security computer company that the DNC hired to check out their server that was hacked. That is the server that the Russians allegedly hacked, and then info got somehow to Wikileaks.
Then the server disappeared. Don't you find that weird? that the server that a private company inspected and that the FBI was NOT ALLOWED to inspect disappeared? The FBI offered to inspect it to find out who hacked the DNC and the DNC said no. Crowd strike gave their results to the FBI. If the FBI came to your door to do a criminal high tech investigation of your computers or server, would you be able to refuse them? Why would the DNC refuse to have the FBI check out that server? Then the server disappeared (instead of being in some evidence locker) and the theory is that it disappeared in Ukraine. That is why on page 3 "Crowdstrike" is mentioned. Wouldn't the Democrats want that server to be recovered and in the hands of the USA as evidence and just to follow the rule of law , if for no other reason.? I would think so. Unless there is something on that server that is very damaging to the Democrats.

From the Guiliani interview, Joe Biden has been using his public office to enrich his family one way or the other for a long time. This is news to me but that is what he claims. It did not start when Joe was VP.
Below is NPR link that they just sent subpoena to Mike Pompeo

https://www.wbur.org/npr/76...

Frankly, it would not surprise me at all if prominent Democrats did do something corrupt that ties in with Ukraine somehow. As Trump and Company get warmer and warmer to the corruption, the Dems will get more and more desperate and yell impeachment even louder.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...

Mysticeti • 4 years ago

There is no line. Remember, Trump himself asserted he can shoot someone on 5th ave without losing any supporters.

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Buckwheat • 4 years ago

Not only liberal listen to and read NPR websites. So therefore non liberal leave comment. It’s a hard concept to take, but it’s real.

Mysticeti • 4 years ago

The feel threatened by the truth. Here's their chance to lash out at and attempt to annoy people who place their country over their political party.

Buckwheat • 4 years ago

Obiden took a day off.

Buckwheat • 4 years ago

What will next weeks scandal be? These headlines will get old fast. I will say that fly over country is watching the way Trump is being treated. The fly over people vote. They will vote for Trump early and often.

Pat Smith • 4 years ago

Just calling this an "affair" tells me of the intense bias of this web page.
Will WBUR pay any attention in the title to the word "Crowdstrike"? no of course not.
That was in the phone transcript too.

Basically, William Barr and Trump may be getting closer and closer to the illigitamate beginnings of the Russian Hoax. The Dems understandably are very nervous, as they should be, because their behavior is worse than Watergate. So now they have to stop Barr and Trump any way they can.
They have been trying to stop Trump for years now and with the help of the MSM.
They may go after Guiliani the same way they went after Michael Cohen. The name of the game is to destroy the reputation of anyone near Trump that they can. I guess one day Baron may be a target too.

Guest • 4 years ago
Pat Smith • 4 years ago

no

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BOBinRSI • 4 years ago

As soon as cheapos like you pony up some do-re-me.

Guest • 4 years ago
BOBinRSI • 4 years ago

Because you spend your whole effen day here.

Ryan Kelly • 4 years ago

Hahahaha, Bob, I love this! +1

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BOBinRSI • 4 years ago

You are not liberal stupid you are Trump stupid. You are what the other side says.

Mean Girl • 4 years ago

Blue Tsunami: Trump has impeached himself

Looks like the tide has turned: all the polls show Americans supporting impeachment

Guest • 4 years ago
Pat Smith • 4 years ago

you are correct. The 'favor' was NOT "look into Joe Biden". Trump's 'favor' is finding the server and the fact that there has been corruption in Ukraine and it needs to be cleaned up

Funny how the Dems and the press are not that eager to find the missing server, the server that was examined by a private security company the DNC hired called Crowdstrike, the server that the DNC refused to let the FBI examine, the server that was hacked in 2016 and probably should be in some evidence locker.

Now why would the Dems not allow the FBI to examine that server? Hmmm.
Could it be the same reason that Hillary had 30,000 e mails disappear when she was subpoenaed to testify before Congress with all those e mails?

Ironically now Congress subpoenaed Mike Pompeo to try to force him to turn over documents. But 30,000 of Hillary's documents were allowed to vanish and there were no charges that we know of.

Mysticeti • 4 years ago

Nice try at spin.

But even on Fox, Chris Wallace says, "The spinning that has been done by the president's defenders over the last 24 hours ... it is astonishing and deeply misleading."

Pat Smith • 4 years ago

I believe from what I read of the Chris Wallace comments that IMO to brush away the whistleblower's concerns as if he or she is just a disgruntled worker
is wrong. The whistleblower should be given the benefit of the doubt that he or she had some real concerns. However the whistleblower admits that these concerns are legal hearsay.

https://www.bing.com/videos...

Pat Smith • 4 years ago

While the Dems claim they want to prevent foreign influences on the elections, they hired a retired British spy Christopher Steele thru Fusion GPS to go to Russia and get dirt on Trump. That itself IMO is foreign interference on our election process that the Dems did. The unequal application of the law and the hypocrisy is ridiculous.

Mean Girl • 4 years ago
the request that he look into Biden is an after-thought, and comes later.

That is utter nonsense and you know it. Why are you lying? 😉