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Don • 4 years ago

This fiasco going on in Clown City is not by any stretch of the imagination a "trial". Moscow Mitch had already made up his mind as to the verdict long before the impeachment paperwork got to him. I would like to see the managers request a mis-trial and just stop the whole clown show before Moscow Mitch utters the "Acquittal" word. I understand that a mis-trial is not in the rule book for this show but calling it a trial is not either. Trump will never be acquitted in the minds of the people who care about the constitution (more of a minority every day it seems). just stop the whole thing and let it forever hang over his head.

CoCoLuv9491 • 4 years ago

So Sonali thinks Trump's impeachment defense is "incoherent," and that GOP senators are hypocritical because they sang a different tune in 1998. What sort of defense would be acceptable to Sonali in such a blatant political shitshow?

And lest you take away from the dubious partisan argument presented here that it is just the Republicans that are hypocrites, it might be instructive to hear what one of today's DP impeachment "managers" had to say during the Bill Clinton impeachment:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

ReverendKush • 4 years ago

Worse than all this is the fact that Democrats have chosen to bring Impeachment against Trump on his absolutely least impeachable offenses. What the Republicans are doing is exactly what the Democrats would do in this same situation. Its not that what you are saying isn't true. It's not even that Trump shouldn't be impeached. He clearly should be but the Democrats brought the weakest case they could base his Impeachment upon. Not bring this fact up in your article makes it as worthless as the Democrats case and if you cannot see that you need to into a new profession because a journalists job is to tell everything not just produce a piece showing your bias against Trump. I'm biased against Trump but because of his Character but I'm also biased against both the Democrats and Republicans because they are equally corrupt it just shows differently.

Myia Mcmillian • 4 years ago

The Impeachment in the House was a partisan farce, no defense witnesses allowed. Who could be surprised that the trial would also be a partisan farce? Even Sonali could not be that willfully ignorant. Did she get a pen?

Brewerstroupe • 4 years ago
During the period 2014-2016, the Prosecutor General’s Office of Ukraine was conducting a preliminary investigation into a series of serious crimes committed by the former Minister of Ecology of Ukraine Mykola Zlotchevsky and by the managers of the company “Burisma Holding Limited “(Cyprus), the board of directors of which included, among others, Hunter Biden, son of Joseph Biden, then vice-president of the United States of America.
The investigation into the above-mentioned crimes was carried out in strict accordance with Criminal Law and was under my personal control as the Prosecutor General of Ukraine.


Owing to my firm position on the above-mentioned cases regarding their prompt and objective investigation, which should have resulted in the arrest and the indictment of the guilty parties, Joseph Biden developed a firmly hostile attitude towards me which led him to express in private conversations with senior Ukrainian officials, as well as in his public speeches, a categorical request for my immediate dismissal from the post of Attorney General of Ukraine in exchange for the sum of US $ 1 billion in as a financial guarantee from the United States for the benefit of Ukraine.

-from a criminal complaint in filed in Kiev against the former Vice President by the Prosecutor General whom Biden got fired for investigating the company paying Hunter Biden $83,000 per month for a "no need to show up" job.

https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY

Myia Mcmillian • 4 years ago

Biden is always talking about the "Cancer of Corruption" but he is the "King of Corruption", noteworthy even in Ukraine, the most corrupt nation on earth (in part due to Biden and his minions, and son): https://ukrainegate.info/

RickD • 4 years ago

The fact there is not the slightest scrap of evidence of the corruption you bleat about escapes you.

occupyRUScom • 4 years ago

Interestingly, the same Guy who's Donald Trumps Dad (FRED, rip) helped Climb the Political Ladder is same guy trying to tear down Trump by Sham Trials etc... abusing "USURPATION" in 'The Name of The Law!" Note: The Military Test Weapons on real Countries and People, yet These DEMOCRAPS weaponized the laws to Test on US Public! SHAME!
https://uploads.disquscdn.c...

Aelxa Hill • 4 years ago

Please, Fred Trump was a Republican who fed the Democratic Machine in NYC because the Democrats ran NYC and he needed to grease this wheels to get away with all his property and loan scams.

And your babbling about testing on US populations is old news from the beginning of the 20th Century. See the syphilis studies on black men, the 1940s nuclear radiation releases in the NorthEast, and the list goes on with present day tick releases to study how fast ticks will spread.

Stupidity knows no bounds or borders.

St_Paul • 4 years ago

I call shenanigans!!

Myia Mcmillian • 4 years ago

Really would have been exciting to hear from Hunter Biden:
https://consortiumnews.com/...

RickD • 4 years ago

Work up a sweat beating that dead horse? What would have been interesting was hearing from Bolton who actually had relevant things to say.

jhande • 4 years ago

I know, Bolton can tell us about WMD in Iraq.

Myia Mcmillian • 4 years ago

Bolton, like Jeff Sessions and George W. Bush, is now a hero of the Democrats. He was "fired" by Trump for pretending to be President and implementing foreign policy, rather than just spouting neocon directives (ADVICE). He is upset about his removal and inability to start WWIII (as are the Democrats). Bolton was constantly bringing up the Libya model (upsetting diplomacy meetings with foreign regimes), and was one of many Americans and Ukrainian Americans gorging on corruption after the coup in 2014. Pompeo is similar. There are no good people in positions of power in DC.

RickD • 4 years ago

Certainly no hero, and why you exaggerate and disotort is a mystery.

Aelxa Hill • 4 years ago

Republicans have hit an all time low when it comes to morals and ethics, they now possess none at all.

Just listening to the disgusting notion that the president is free to do as he wills " if he believes it is in America's best interest that he be re-elected".

Excuse me?

It is the American voters who decide if a second term is in America's best interest, it is NOT for the president to decide this.

Such thinking is THE DESPOTIC THINKING OF A DICTATOR.

We have a dangerous president who believes he should freely do what he wants, when he wants, and HE IS A DANGER TO DEMOCRACY AND THE REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Dr. Paul • 4 years ago

Shouting makes the point right ? The truth is there is and has not been a democracy in modern times.
You are railing as if the Dems live up to their progressive roots, they do not, and this is no appeal for the other side as it is at least as rotten as you say. There is no choice, get it?

Aelxa Hill • 4 years ago

That attitude is what will sink democracy.

When your house is dirty , you pick up a broom and start cleaning it.

Your attitude is, it is dirty, and I can do nothing about it so I will wallow in filth.

No, you need to decide, this house is not as bad, there are still some good spots, I am doubling down, and digging in to get the other dirt out.

Obviously, you live in filth and do not mind it.

I am no longer tolerating it anymore. The filth has got to go.

Dr. Paul • 4 years ago

Thank you for schooling me about cleaning house and attitude.
The house to which you refer is on fire, so abandon it. Your wallowing in filth analogy
is simple minded at best, as if the filth is somehow avoidable, when it is not as many authors on TD opine. You are most definitely not doubling down, or digging, and there is nothing obvious about your claim.

Though it is true that the "filth" must go, it is clear that there is little comprehension
about said filth or where it will go to, or what will replace it...

smertzakrov • 4 years ago

6 year old thinking by senile koltycar---who consistently has everything wrong....impeachment is the dimocrat stupidity that regards their attempt at a coup---the snap back that assures trump a 2nd term

jhande • 4 years ago

This is an Herstoric day in Herstory.

Nancy Pelosi becomes the First Woman Speaker of the House to lose an impeachment case.

Truly a milestone.

Dmitri • 4 years ago

Well, even though Kolhatkar's promos for the Democratic Party as the democratic party of the people could qualify as incoherent by design, she's at least consistent in continually making them. But she'll never be able to match the consistent incoherence of the US Constitution being promoted, as in this case of impeachment, as the cornerstone of 'our' democratic polity.

P.S. Trump and his defenders don't have to try that hard in "wear(ing) down the American people." Russiagate alone did a pretty good job at that.

Jake novichok • 4 years ago

Russiagate is 99.9% pure Russophobia and it is getting more scarier then ever. And it's all thanks to Adam Schiff. When I look at the scum like Adam I think that maybe something wrong with Harvard law school, he-he.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

wrcurley • 4 years ago

I hear that, like Columbia journalism school, you have to check your foreskin at the door.

Myia Mcmillian • 4 years ago

As Stephen F. Cohen noted, Russiagate and Russiophobia will never go away. It is ingrained in the American character now. The same people who believe that the overthrow of Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Honduras and Ukraine are all wonderful exemplars of America exceptionalism, refuse to give US citizens ANYTHING that the rest of the (much poorer) industrialized world takes for granted. This is not just the Democrats, it is bipartisan.
It is no longer acceptable to hate on Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Jews, the Poor and Working Class (at least in public), but vile racist ethnic smearing of Russians is not only acceptable, but encouraged by our politicians, think tanks, intelligence agencies and MSM. Have to keep the bogeyman alive (terrorism is done) or the whole rotten, corrupt neoliberal edifice will collapse.

Jake novichok • 4 years ago

Sometimes Cohen says some very questionable things like "Russian people never lived as good as during current presidency (Putin's presidency) but he is and you are 100% right on this one.

RickD • 4 years ago

you are not fooling anyone

Jake novichok • 4 years ago

Rick it was your last chance to kneel before our overlord Mr. Putin and now you blew it. Putin's minions are coming to get you, he-he.

RickD • 4 years ago

I hope of the those minions is the one eyed one, he is hysterical.

smertzakrov • 4 years ago

amerikan advokats=anti intellectual...the most conservative force in US politics (Tocqueville) r fascista...there is no accident that 2/3 of the lawyers on earth live in the US....."the ultimate trickster's paradise" (Bercovitch)...in civilized nations laws r interpreted via reason...in the US they live in the past and employ precedent....Simmel found that not since medieval times, in western civilization, were victims permitted to influence punishment (this medical practice exists in only 2 backward nations---USA, Australia...and legal witch hunts (grand juries) only exist in 2 backward nations---USA, Liberia
US lawyers r so stupid that they actually admire the US constitution---the only existing constitution where citizens r not guaranteed the right to vote....u will not find 1 amerikan lawyer that is aware of this

Jake novichok • 4 years ago

Hey man, long time no see.
I started worrying about you.
How is your summer down there because my winter up here sucks balls, he-he.

Aelxa Hill • 4 years ago

No legal document is perfect, which is why the Constitution was amended to allow all men and women to vote.
And Every American is aware of this, we learn it in grade school before we are ten years old.

That you are not aware of this, makes it quite clear you are simply a Russian bot.

Dr. Paul • 4 years ago

Aye, it's a cesspool of inconsistencies. And to what end?
Impeachment is useful for what? To make the case that D is
somehow better than R is truly a state of delusion...
Prepare for quarantine lockdown...

Ted Apelt • 4 years ago

You forgot to mention that Trump had absolutely no interest in fighting Ukraine corruption UNTIL Joe Biden decided to run for President, and even now he has absolutely no interest in any Ukraine corruption that does not involve Joe Biden, even though there is a lot of it.

Kilr • 4 years ago

What is really incoherent is the Democrat effort to turn a nothing burger into an impeachable offense. They have been exposed as the out of control duplicitous dolts that they are. They are so eaten up with Trump Derangement Syndrome that what little common sense they possessed has been corrupted by their perfidy. Their performance was simply a parallel effort of the Kavanaugh dog and pony show that embarrassed them in front of the entire world....and they learned absolutely nothing due to their paranoia and hatred for the man that beat Killary in 2016, and will beat ANY current Democrat candidates that the unglued lunatic left can throw at him.

Aelxa Hill • 4 years ago

It is rightwing republicans who have TDS.

You are all deranged in your thinking and have no more morals and no ethics anymore.

Clinton lied about getting a BJ in his office.

Trump has done so many illegal things, just reading a few pages of the redacted Mueller Report was nauseating in the illegal and questionable actions of Trump.

You are all sick in the head and deluded.

jhande • 4 years ago

Lol.
So many illegal things, the Democrats have to make stuff up.

Aelxa Hill • 4 years ago

Look, it is the fake leftwinger jhande, here to spread his usual BS.

jhande • 4 years ago

If there are so many illegal things, then why do the Democrats have to make things up?

cupera2 • 4 years ago

The Ukraine conspiracy theory was Plan B after Mueller failed to produce any collusion or obstruction in his investigation. It was built on the same sand.

Ted Apelt • 4 years ago

Suppose in 2011 a son of Mitt Romney who had the same education and work experience of Hunter Biden had the exact same job Hunter had, and all is fine UNTIL Mitt Romney decides to run for President. Obama then breaks the law by withholding Congressionally approved funds they desperately need until they publicly announce that they are investigating Mitt Romney.

What would you say then? Would you think that this was more serious than lying about an affair with an intern?

Brewerstroupe • 4 years ago

I would certainly think it very serious if Mitt Romney had been Vice President and threatened to withhold a billion dollars of loan guarantees unless the Ukraine Government put a stop to a legitimate investigation of the company paying his son $83,000 per month for a do-nothing job.

There is no doubt whatsoever that this is precisely what Joe Biden did, he boasted about it:

https://disq.us/url?url=htt...

Care to comment?

jhande • 4 years ago

Obama had his FBI forge documents to take to the secret FISA court in order to get a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.

So, your post is nonsense.

Dr. Paul • 4 years ago

I would say its totally irrelevant, with emphasis...

Aelxa Hill • 4 years ago

If it is irrelevant, then Trump asking the Ukraine to investigate Biden is what.......?

Ted Apelt • 4 years ago

How is it irrelevant? What I described is exactly in every detail Obama doing what Trump has done. You don't think House Republicans would not have tried to impeach him for that, especially if they had a House majority? Remember we are talking about the same people who wanted to impeach him for Benghazi even after a full investigation showed he had nothing to do with it. They went after him like he was seen going there with gasoline soaked rags and a match. Fox News would not do a story of an earthquake in China without the burning Benghazi building as a backdrop.

But if he withheld Congressionally approved money (which is a crime!) in attempt to bribe a foreign leader (which is also a crime!) to give him something of value for his reelection (which is also a crime!) that would have been OK? They would have just let that go? Really?

Dr. Paul • 4 years ago

It is irrelevant because there really is a swamp and both the House and Senate are filled.
Posturing on one side or the other is truly pointless and a sure sign that one has partaken of the cool-aid...

Aelxa Hill • 4 years ago

It is not irrelevant, because Trump is clearly showing he is happy to make the Swamp bigger by his own actions, and even more polluted by disregarding all rules, regulations, and laws governing the Office of the Presidency.

He was voted in by people expecting him to make things better, not to expand the Swamp by his own actions and greed.

Aelxa Hill • 4 years ago

You have to realize conservatives believe everything they do is no longer criminal, it is only criminal if a Democrat does it.

They are all mentally warped and ill, they have two different standards now depending on what political party the person belongs to.

Ethics and morals have all gone out the window completely, a total double standard exists.

As Trump said......

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot someone, and not lose voters."

It is sickening how immoral and mentally twisted Republicans have become.

Dr. Paul • 4 years ago

Yes mental illness is the true epidemic. Odd though that you believe its one sided.
You have also partaken of the cool-aid...