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Nova Storm • 1 year ago

Women don‘t derserve anything just for being women. They deserve fair treatment and human dignity, as any person does. If I compliment a woman, it says more about me than about her. I, specifically in that moment, thinks she deserves iit right then and there, but it‘s just as likely that I might decide differently and not make it. I decide, if she gets a compliment from me, and if I decide that yes, she should be thankful that I gave her my attention. She might think to deserve anything all day long, in the end, the one that gives the compliment decides, and it‘s only momentary and they next guy may decide on the opposite.

Or we just change it alltogether by treating everyone, including men, all the time as if they
deserve the world. But that would feel awkward too, if it became excessive (in the beginning it might be nice for the guys though, finally healing their wounds of being treated as the second class sex).

TheWonkyFonker • 1 year ago

I'm a girl and I seek gratification sometimes, just to make sure I'm not being a burden and that someone is actually happy for me and cares. I have no self-esteem, I've had counseling, been part of grief groups, etc. None of that has helped me gain any positivity towards myself. Though, my therapy has helped me realize that these issues stem from constant shaming and abuse in childhood. Yes, inside I know that I can accomplish whatever I work for, and I continue to work towards the things I "deserve." I never liked asking people for anything and I will NEVER expect handouts from anyone. I like to help out when someone needs me- it's a straightforward mindset. I never had many friends, the ones I thought I had, turned out to be fake and have used me. Trust issues have always been there, and every failed friendship just makes it harder and harder to trust someone. No matter how much I feel in my heart that they're trustworthy, it's like there's a barrier that doesn't go away and it seems impenetrable.
Now that you know me and my brain a little bit better, you may understand my point with a little bit of perspective. All women, or all men, or all trans- what have you... isn't a way to categorize and apply these traits to- because people like you and me fall into the cracks between.
If you find someone you like, not for looks, but for who they are- praise them when you are proud, be the bigger person. If you're brave, show it, and if they're anything like me, they'll start to understand that "you really aren't so awful and that my brain-wall can stand down." Soon, if they really do care, or if they are really trying to establish a good connection with you, they'll start to unlock a little bit at a time. If they don't, keep trying to be a good listener, helper, and a friend, and they should start to talk a little bit.
If it's all excuses and they've not budged over a long time, and you're becoming tired and worn out from all the effort- maybe their problem is rooted deeper, and you should suggest they get some help and move on. Don't expect things from people just because you did something, if the person doesn't come forward after all your kindness, they're not for you. Be reasonable, see perspective, and try to work things out. Don't be afraid to admit when you're wrong and that this person isn't for you.
Hope this helped!

bigdasu83 • 1 year ago

Well, it's about to happen now. As a man I deserve an equal partner not someone that thinks I am an ATM machine with their entitlement.

Slate Black • 2 years ago

I thought this would be a joke by the end but I was wrong, guess I shouldn't have trusted a dude to be funny. Also, incels are literally living for their entitlement and women they "deserve".

Nova Storm • 1 year ago

The only think inceld think they deserve are equal opportunities and fair treatment, meaning no humiliation, ridiculing, belittleing by women.
So basically, what women have requested for decades at the workplace, in politics etc. request incels in dating.
And what is it with that term anyways? Is that an invention of delusionary women? Aren‘t women the ones intriguing, being mean etc. when it is about relationships etc?
Don‘t judge men who wish for a reciprocal loving relationship and human warmth.
Also, the virgin shaming doesn‘t help. Be lnstead cordial to men and see them as your equal instrad of calling them „incel“s.

You know you're an incel, right? Incel isn't limited to males, and it seems intelligence evaded you too.

It must suck to be fat and ugly, but you do you. Whatever works for your cats.

Noah Warner • 1 year ago

bless your heart, you poor delusional thing.

as140 • 1 year ago

your comment has norhing todo with the articles content

Top Dog • 2 years ago

I guess it just the nature of the beast for a woman to have a sense of entitlement...Things should be done out of Love and a mutual respect for one another

Guest • 2 years ago

Well since most women are real morons nowadays which is real fact. That is no surprise.

Ricky Newlands • 2 years ago

Yes, sheep, divide further. Divide further into your little tribes of colour, gender and orientation. The last thing you want is to UNIFY with your fellow humans. The fifth column is here. It is manifesting in the division and alienation that the elites want for us. Please, continue as you were so that the fifth column can rise up and DESTROY THE WORLD YOU KNOW.

Mephi • 1 year ago

been looking around and can't seem to find any comment of yours in any of the thousands more articles that demonize men or tell women that they Are entitled. hmmm.....
Funny how you only seem to be tired of the 'dis-unity' when it's coming from this angle....

Shane Zwicker • 2 years ago

I agree in unity. Too much bullshit trying to keep people separate, since they're easier to control that way. It's the people in charge that control the narrative; so any organization that's allowed to exist can only benefit those at the top.

Fuck U • 2 years ago

Unity is political horseshit for cucks. We are all individuals.

Shane Zwicker • 2 years ago

No shit Sherlock. Just like atoms are all 'individuals' but if they didn't come together, we wouldn't exist. Do try to use your brain before speaking..

Shorin • 2 years ago

"Celebrate diversity" "Protect Minorities" etc etc
But I guess an Individual is neither diverse nor a minority and must be trampled under the agenda/majority/mob rule.
Being disabled, intellectual, a free thinker, and verifiably genetically uncommon I've always shuddered at a society that won't let me be myself and instead silence me for questioning the mob's logic.

Shane Zwicker • 1 year ago

I feel ya. I'm autistic, and didn't get an official diagnosis for it until the age of 39.

I always felt/was made to feel, like something was wrong with me. So much wasted potential due to all that underlying self doubt, reinforced by the pressures of society to 'just be "normal"'.

And of course to top it off, with being white, and male, I wasn't exactly privy to all the passive understanding an empathy of any woman or minority that have endured hardships in their lives; even if their hardships were but a fraction of what I've been through.

Batman • 2 years ago

Sorry hate to be that guy, but we are made of cells not atoms. atoms make up nonliving things. Sorry random blurb in the discussions of humanity. Have fun!

"but we are made of cells not atoms"

hehe

oh, you're serious?

haaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahaha haaa hahahahahaha

Nick Olejnik • 2 years ago

i can not believe you didn't know cells are made of molecules and molecules are a lot of atoms. dude think before you type.

Lhasa • 2 years ago

Guess I'll be that guy to your that guy... cells are made up of molecules, and molecules are collections of atoms. Atoms are the building blocks of matter and are NOT reserved to non living things at all.

Ricky Newlands • 2 years ago

You had me in stitches! "Dat sweet gushy wet-wet" hahahaha well done, sir! I'm not a feminist by any stretch of the imagination, and I agree with what you've said. With that out of the way, oof, pretty black and white. I know it's a more effective piece when you deal in absolutes but I'm sure you know it's not always how you've portrayed it. There are still some down-to-earth ladies out there. And there are definitely entitled men out there. I used to be one of them.

Shane Zwicker • 2 years ago

Yea, but with all the 'men are shit' propaganda out there in the
mainstream media, while painting women as innocent princesses; I'm just
glad to see something out there shining some light on the other side of
things.

Ccuvzk • 3 years ago

I came across this article after I just broke up today. I totally wouldn’t agree if I didn’t realize what’s actually happening every time after cutting her off today. Just Google “being taken for granted”, it’s almost always men regretting not treating a woman better before being dumped and women questioning their partners in a relationship telling each other they deserve better. Heck majority of divorce cases are filed by women but how can we say most men in the society are useless sexist violent manipulative abusers is a fact when claiming most women are entitled is simply incorrect? It simply doesn’t make sense.
It makes so much sense for my past relationships. I realized most of them don’t actually care about what I have to say or feel, and they always focus on proving themselves right. Yet they expect me to validate their feelings whenever they speak which I do, even when they shut me down saying I am the one in the wrong. Sometimes they even tell me things didn’t happen the way that I remembered, which after numerous times I realize I have been gaslighting myself agreeing to them while they were doing it. I try my best to think and prioritize them over others only to be told that I shouldn’t expect the same because I am only a part of their lives. Ironically when it comes to their needs and wants, say calling me at 4am after a nightmare or having me on the phone so they can fall asleep, it gets even more ironic to sex, they’d as me that if I don’t find them attractive when I don’t want to do it but when I ask for it I respect their wishes every single time. They claim they don’t care but everything has to be fair. Else it’s unhealthy or toxic or I get questioned about my love the very next day or I get told they never asked me for being there in the first place whenever I bring the imbalances up. I realize that actually I am the one who seldom ask them for anything and really they don’t put a lot of effort in at all.
Oftentimes I check up on how I am doing as a partner, I even encourage them to speak up when they aren’t happy, and tell them every time that I may not agree initially but I can and will try to understand them from their points of view how I am the one making mistakes, but funny thing is they always blamed me for not caring or not being mature either by telling me my opinions or feelings aren’t valid from their perspectives or because they refused to speak up in the first place then hold grudges when I voice mine, and they tell me we aren’t compatible and it’s just not working when I am the one trying to communicate and change.
It feels so good breaking up unlike before, and reading this really feels like waking up. Sad reality though.

Shane Zwicker • 2 years ago

Yea.. and society kisses up to the female side of things, while allowing little to no room for debate; making it even harder for the Male side of things to be heard..

And while I'm not saying that violence is ever an acceptable solution, this does somewhat explain why there is as much violence on women as there is.. I mean, if you poke a freindly dog enough times, it'll still bite you eventually. Course some guys are just assholes, but this still doesn't help.

Wabee sana • 4 years ago

Most insightful thing I've read this year.

roseba • 4 years ago

This article misses the mark. Do you know why so many things are marketed to women as "You're worth it?" Because historically, women put themselves last after their husbands, children, family and community. We women were raised to never put our needs first. It's so common, that the phrase shouldn't need explanation. Then again, I guess it does since the author misses the mark big time.

Rhan Tegoth • 1 year ago

roseba

You're misinformed. The reasons why companies market products to women as "you're worth it" is because women are insecure and have a strong need for approval. Women act like victims because they wanna be admired for having a vagina.

Some Guy • 3 years ago

That's hilarious. Women *control* themselves last after controlling their husbands, children, family, and community. Women are self-centered to the core.

Darth Vader • 3 years ago

This article is spot on. What is missing, is the brain from inside your skull.

Padge Vounder • 4 years ago

Well here in the present, their attitudes are awful, their egos are enormous and their sense of entitlement is odious. Your comment makes about as much sense as a black person blaming their crack habit on slavery. Or jews calling anything they don't like anti semitic because of the holocaust. You can't play that old victim card forever. It's about expired by now. Tme to move on and work towards that equality the feminists claimed they wanted.

Mephi • 4 years ago

"Because historically, women put themselves last after their husbands, children, family and community. "
Seriously? That's why there's no women buried in Arlington? That's why 50% of women have passed on their genes? That's why women make up 4% of workplace fatalities? That's why women commit suicide 4 times less than men?
What an asinine comment. Grade F-.

roseba • 4 years ago

Ah, so you put value in going to war but no value in giving birth and raising children. Why is one more valuable then the other. Let me guess... because men are writing the narrative. Maybe, we shouldn't go to war in the first place. I don't even understand the comments of 50% of women passed on their genes.. Who do you think were planting those seeds that turned into embryos? Other women?

"you put value in going to war but no value in giving birth and raising children"

The latter wouldn't be possible without the former. You wouldn't exist.

"Maybe, we shouldn't go to war in the first place."

You're one of those idiots that think most men "want" to go to war. Well, we don't, and we don't much like risking our life for cretins like you. But by all means, the next time a Hitler type rolls around, break out a TikTok or two and see if that stops them, or maybe make them a sandwich. When that fails, men will do what men have always done; keep our country and its people safe.

You're welcome.

Noah Warner • 1 year ago

so, back to the actual point...in contemporary society, more and more women have huge ego/entitlement issues, and its downright repulsive and childish. full stop. nice try with the gaslighting though!

Mephi • 4 years ago

Ah so you think your initial dismissal of the male population and making claims to women's sacrifice like it's part of a points system would go unchallenged? I don't need to guess, it's because your raised as a typical entitled woman. You Assume that you're Entitled to make statements unchallenged. You Assume that you can make any inference and someone ( a man of course) would have to take it. We don't.
"We women were raised to never put our needs first"
Except that demonstrably untrue, from the above mentioned statistics and your refusal to acknowledge them to the plethora of others I could list that very rare women ever talk about. I mean you need to fight that "manspreading" amirite? As is the overwhelming evidence of the single mother narcissism that continues to treat children as women's property, despite the tragic statistical outcomes.
Laundry lists of what a man is supposed to bring to a relationship with no acknowledgement of what You are bringing. And on and on and on. There isn't a facet of society that you don't need to control or interject yourself into regardless of whether or not you're even interested.
See toxic female narcissism is the Opposite of thinking about everyone else.

Nova Storm • 1 year ago

This is spot on. If finally enough men tell women that they „are“ not the table, but have actually to bring something to it, the enlightenment might just come to them.
I keep confronting my wife with it if I hear sexist stories from her surroundings and I‘m not backing off. And I encourage every other man to do so.

roseba • 3 years ago

What above mentioned statistics You mean the opinion of some bitter guy who wants to be a deadbeat dad and NOT support his own kids? A kid requires another bedroom. In NYC that means at big cost difference in an apartment. That's just where it begins. That doesn't include all the other expenses a kid brings.

The article above is a bunch of tripe and a magnet for men who haven't matured enough to understand personal responsibility.

Mephi • 3 years ago

You waited all this time to add....nothing? Already responded and destroyed quite some time ago. But to address just the beginning of your nonsense- statistics are not some guy's ":opinion". Statistics are....statistics. It's really that simple. Seriously are you the girl Dr Shaym mentioned on one of his videos?

roseba • 4 years ago

Well you certainly make a lot of ASSUMPTIONS of what is in my heart and mind. Don't ever start a comment with "you think."

I think that we go to war for stupid and unnecessary reasons and that most wars would not have happened if men didn't cause them. Therefore I dismiss the statement about men going to war. If they don't want to go to war, then stop being belligerent.

I didn't bring up Manspreading. My question is this: Can you stay on topic, or do you rebut by going all over the place?

With no acknowledgement of what women are bringing.... LOL women carry relationships for millenia. We don't usually need to restate what is the obvious. We do all the house work, all the appointments, all the social niceties with others, all the medical appointments, all the childcare, and work full time. When women went to work, they never gave up all the other responsib am ilities. And no a man bringing a plate from the table to the dishwasher doesn't mean he did housework. A man cooking one meal a month doesn't mean he is sharing the responsibilities.

Ricky Newlands • 2 years ago

"don't ever start a comment with you think". OH THE IRONY.

Mephi • 4 years ago

I'll make it easy for you- You Are Not Entitled To Better Than You Give. Is that simple enough for you. If you are going to make insulting little and belittling little screeds against men, or against me or anyone for that matter, you are not entitled to be sacrosanct from the same treatment. Do you get it yet? You are not going to get a pussy pass from me.
Besides the fact that you, who is nobody, simply dismiss the fact that female leaders have been just as likely to send a nation to war, and you fail to address the consequences for men throughout history for refusing the State, it's safe to assume that you simply are not prepared for this arena. You clearly lack background information and certainly anything from the male perspective.
"I didn't bring up Manspreading. My question is this: Can you stay on topic, or do you rebut by going all over the place?"
It was used as an example. So the question is are you capable of the most basic discussion or do you simply feel entitled to spout whatever you want unchallenged. Care to guess my response?
" We do all the house work, all the appointments, all the social niceties with others, all the medical appointments,"
Besides the fact that we were talking about what one brings to a relationship (using your above logic, are you able to stay on topic?) actually you don't do all the housework. You May do more of the work INSIDE, but it's men that generally are out mowing the lawn, raking leaves, taking care of the gutters, picking up the bicycles. changing the oil, painting the house, staining the decks, weeding, etc etc. Like a true narcissist you see only what YOU do as "work". For men it's just fun amirite? It's why when studies took these factors into play and stopped categorizing "yard work" as something else, men do as much if not more hours of work per week when including paid work. And please spare me the secretary woes of setting up appointments. Oh no you had to sit on your ass, make calls and write stuff down. How dangerous. Must really cause some herniated discs and torn ligaments. And no you don't do all the childcare. That's just another swan song for you. It's so that you can then complain that women are "stuck" with the children, whether or not you even Let the father be more involved.
"When women went to work, they never gave up all the other responsib am ilities"
Women were only able to go to work full time in the last century because men INVENTED labor saving technology that allowed your full day of work at home to be done in 2-3 hours. When was the last time you washed you clothes on a board down by the river? When you went to work, you found out that the "fun and free" time men spent at work while women were "shackled to the home" turned out to be.....well just a bunch of work. That's why your happiness continues to plummet and why you display bitterness at every turn. It's sad really.
" And no a man bringing a plate from the table to the dishwasher doesn't mean he did housework"
And a woman popping a dvd for the kids to watch for 2 hours while she drinks a chardonnay doesn't constitute housework either. See how that works?
" A man cooking one meal a month doesn't mean he is sharing the responsibilities."
A woman spending 10 hours a week trying to sell bead bracelets doesn't constitute contributing to the household finances either. See how that works?

disqus_LLoJS6mtp0 • 3 years ago

King

abyx34 • 4 years ago

Truth is modern society is making women to be complete and utter assholes to men, and to stand proud for it. Yes, propagandas are being pushed between the sexes, there is so much wrong in the modern society. These women seem to have grown up as little princesses and they are unable and incompentent to do much else, other than to look good.

llama256 • 5 years ago

The entitled class never acknowledges their entitlement

pmcollectorboy • 5 years ago

Men keep being told: "You're entitled! Women don't owe you their bodies!" While women keep being told: "You can have it all! You deserve the best!"
A man who just wants one faithful woman to spend his life with gets shot down and accused of "being entitled" while women who screw around with casual sex get praised and are called "empowered". Is it any wonder everything is kinda messed up?

jssmali • 4 years ago

ur saying that women get praised for having sex?! stfuuuu they all get called sluts while men pat each others backs and tally up points for every girl they sleep w? come on y'all can't be that dumb...and the second you get a girl pregnant you gotta go to court bc you don't wanna own up to your damn actions lmao how funny is that, y'all saying shit like oh I'm so much stronger while women go through so much discrimination.

Lhasa • 2 years ago

It doesn't help your argument when you communicate your words about as well as an illiterate monkey. Hurts your point even more when everyone responding to you can actually spell and make sense.

I mean, if you don't possess the insight and intelligence to grasp grammar and spelling, how well can you be expected to understand far more complex subjects?

TheWonkyFonker • 1 year ago

The idea wasn't the poor grammar and abbreviations- it was the speaking point. They actually have a point...

Shane Zwicker • 2 years ago

What decade are you living in? Most of us got past the 80-90's by this point.. You can't even say anything about a woman slutting around these days or you get bashed for 'slut shaming', which is dumb AF considering men can fuck a million different people and not get pregnant.. If either side is gonna catch the bulk of the flack for screwing a different person every day of the week, it should be the one that keeps putting out unwanted children, then either abusing them, abandoning them, or straight up murdering them (because the kids get in the way of their promiscuous lifestyle..).