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Maximus100 • 4 years ago

These priests should have been booted as soon as the Catholic Church found out!! How many lives they ruined. Wolf in sheep's clothing

Mother_of_4_Original • 4 years ago

God will eventually deal justice to these perverts who hid behind the name of "priest" as cover for their evil.

But treating them as criminals like any other criminal while here on earth will make a good head start.

cestusdei • 4 years ago

Meanwhile the Teachers Union ensures that there will never be such an investigation into your public schools. Instead focus on the .001% who are abused by Catholic clergy. Likewise your local mosque is immune. And never ever notice anything that the Church has done to reduce the number of new offenses to the single digits, always replay the past and play up the anti-Catholic angle. Finally, never mention the pink elephant in the room i.e. that it is homosexuals who are the main perpetrators.

MadDeltree • 4 years ago

Actually I would like to have the Catholic church cleaned of these heathens. Right now the abusers seem to be running the show.

A Regular Guy • 4 years ago

goes back to oh, the 1500's.... long bad rap.

My anti-Catholic angle comes directly from God's breathed scripture(2 Timothy 3:16-17) which the RCC and EO churches ignore while they pervert the gospel and mislead it's members by telling them they must work for salvation(which violates Romans 3:28, Romans 4:5), to pray to dead people, pay money for the remission of sin, keep the sacraments, indulgences, the idolatry of Mary, the papacy, purgatory,etc. which we are warned about in Galations 1:8.

It's also interesting that RCC ignores God's breathed scripture when it says: "3 It is a trustworthy statement: if any man aspires to the office of [a]overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do. 2 [b]An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine [c]or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. 4 He must be one who manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity 5 (but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?)," 1 Timothy 3:1-5 - God spoke and said that Overseer's i.e. "priests" must be a husband of one wife but the RCC is in rebellion to what God revealed in scripture and yet they wonder why the priesthood has all these problems.

cestusdei • 4 years ago

As I noted 2 Tim doesn't say scripture ALONE and Paul tells us to obey tradition whether written or oral. So I guess you don't like the Bible. As for money I can turn on the TV and hear your preachers promising God will give me a new car if I only send them cash.

Notice the text of 2 Timothy doesn't appeal to anything else but scripture which "God breathed".

cestusdei • 4 years ago

Note it doesn't say scripture ALONE. You read into it what you want to see.

Again, notice the text of 2 Timothy doesn't appeal to anything else but scripture which "God breathed". I will post it again.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 King James Version (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Please explain how someone can be "perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." if the tradition of the RCC is required?

cestusdei • 4 years ago

It doesn't say that scripture alone does any of those things. That's your tradition of men.

For example a soldier needs a rifle to be fully equipped, but he also needs bullets, a uniform, helmet etc. You are reading into it what you want to see.

Are you even aware that your analogy is self contradictory? Again per 2 Timothy 3:16-17 please explain how someone can be "perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." if the tradition of the RCC is required?

cestusdei • 4 years ago

Are you aware that the verses do NOT say scripture ALONE makes someone perfect etc.? Are you aware that Paul says that we should hold fast to tradition including ORAL tradition? You really need to give up your fundy tradition and read what the Bible actually says rather then what Brother Billy Bob tells you it says.

Notice how you fail to address the simple question and resorted to an ad hominem attack as though it will change the text of the 2 Timothy 3:16-17. The context of 2 Timothy 3:16-17 is the scripture and notice that tradition and or anything else is absent from being required in order for someone to be perfectly equipped for every good work yet you and the RCC claim tradition is also required. You're in open rebellion to what God revealed in scripture.

cestusdei • 4 years ago

Notice how you fail to address the simple FACT that it doesn't say scripture ALONE or ONLY. Twist how you might it isn't there. It is absent. You're in open rebellion against God himself by reading into it what you want to see.

You are being willfully deceitful. I am praying for you. The text of 2 Timothy 3:16-17 makes no appeal to anything else for a man to be perfectly equipped because it is "theopneustos", but you claim it's wrong when you try inserting the heretical RCC traditions which also violates 1 Cor. 4:6.

1 Timothy 3:14-15, "I am writing these things to you, hoping to come to you before long; 15 but in case I am delayed, I write so that you may know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth."

The apostle Paul says that he is writing to the church so that the church would know how to conduct itself. Paul's writings, which are Scripture, are above the church because Paul tells the church to behave according to what he writes.

I am praying to Jesus for you.

cestusdei • 4 years ago

It says nothing about scripture ALONE. That's your tradition of men. Notice that Timothy says the pillar and foundation of truth is the CHURCH. It actually undercuts your man made tradition. Pray for yourself that your eyes will be opened to the fullness of truth found in the Church founded by Jesus Christ, the Catholic Church.

Don Ruhe • 4 years ago

Deflection ... does this work in court?
Judge and jury, please note that other groups have done the same thing, therefore we should be found not guilty.
It's a type of Red Herring, this is why it is a problem! Catholics always making excuses rather than dealing with it.
Either there is a problem with sexually abusing children or there isn't.
Either there is a problem with coving up such abuse or there is not.

By "Problem" here Catholics need to read "Unforgivable SIN" ...

cestusdei • 4 years ago

So the 99.999% of children who are abused by non-clergy don't count. Got it.

rick • 4 years ago

So you are saying that because two men happen to like each other that they inherently must also be attracted to small children? And we wonder why the intolerance flows so strongly both ways lol.

cestusdei • 4 years ago

It appears that is rather common, but kids are expendable to the homosexual lobby.

rick • 4 years ago

My friends that teach tell me it's really just the women that get a pass in the schools. The men are actually burned alive figuratively, as they all should be.

Guest • 4 years ago
cestusdei • 4 years ago

Actually the percentage is lower then in the general population. But I'm sure the 99.999% of abused kids understand that their pain is meaningless to you.

Guest • 4 years ago
cestusdei • 4 years ago

True, look for yourself.

CiCi • 4 years ago

Seems this pope should spend more time and energy cleaning up the Evil in the Church instead of promoting and inviting another Evil (communism/socialism) in.

#Marsing83639 • 4 years ago

Whether you are a Priest or not, if you like little boys, you are a H0M0 so I'm surprised the Democrats who are ok with the murder of new born infants, didn't write laws protecting this. They do love the sickos. Will they be going after the muslims who have a history of this kind of thing?

rick • 4 years ago

Now aborting a fetus is aborting a new born? I understand the passion about this topic but that's a bit much.

#Marsing83639 • 4 years ago

Did you think that a fetus is actually a 1956 Chevy? Do they no longer teach that a Fetus is life? A baby about to be born? in Government Controlled schools these days?

rick • 4 years ago

I suppose if you had intelligent things to say I wouldn't have to read them in the comment section of a blog site. Carry on sir...

#Marsing83639 • 4 years ago

You should take the advice you give to others.

02599AE3CD77 • 4 years ago

Justice delayed is justice denied.

WakeUp&SmellTheRoses • 4 years ago

The jig is up. The gullible masses are getting educated that God is imaginary. Pulpit cult leaders have to get real jobs, some FINALLY go to jail.

selderane • 4 years ago

The sexual abuse within the Catholic church isn't any more prevalent than any other human institution.

This isn't a "cult" problem. It's a human nature problem.

From Psychology Today:

"In other words, there simply is no evidence that Catholic priests sexually abuse children or teens at rates higher than other groups of men, in or outside of religious communities; they may actually abuse at rates lower than the general population of men and of public schoolteachers during similar time periods."

2ruthmatters • 4 years ago

The problem isn't that sexual abuse is everywhere, the offense is that it is not removed from the Church when it occurs. The true church is not a club that harbors sinful actions, it is the Body of Christ that expels those committing such behavior. How DARE anyone make excuses for this because it's prevalent in the world! "Be in the world not OF it"

selderane • 4 years ago

Who the hell is making excuses? Pump your righteous brakes.

I'm merely addressing the perception/accusation that sexual abuse is particularly prevalent in the Catholic church. It's not. In fact, it's statistically lower than in other institutions.

That's actually a good thing. And speaks well for the church.

I'm happy to have a conversation about how crappily the Papacy has handled the abuses, absolutely. But that isn't at all what I'm talking about at this very moment.

NIGELTEAPOT • 4 years ago

What should be the top comment here from cestusdei is:

Meanwhile the Teachers Union ensures that there will never be such an investigation into your public schools. Instead focus on the .001% who are abused by Catholic clergy. Likewise your local mosque is immune. And never ever notice anything that the Church has done to reduce the number of new offenses to the single digits, always replay the past and play up the anti-Catholic angle. Finally, never mention the pink elephant in the room i.e. that it is homosexuals who are the main perpetrators.

To claim pedophilia is just a religious problem would be a gross mischaracterization. Whether its a teacher banging the kids, a priest, your cousin, or that creepy neighbor who has 3 cars on blocks in his front yard, all of their fates should remain the same. Prison sentences with chemical castration, registering as a sex offender so the law can keep an eye on them, and exiled from modern society. Granted the catholic church bypassing any government or law enforcement oversight is the real crime here.

WakeUp&SmellTheRoses • 4 years ago

"a religious problem would be a gross mischaracterization. " - this type is SPECIFICALLY a religious problem because the gullible masses have been brainwashed to turn their heads to this crime because they have been manipulated to think the pulpit cult leaders have been blessed by a super space being deity(s) & that their crimes should be overlooked. Very wrong, very immoral. We have flim flam laws. We should use them.

selderane • 4 years ago

Nope. The data says you're wrong.

From Psychology Today:

"In other words, there simply is no evidence that Catholic priests sexually abuse children or teens at rates higher than other groups of men, in or outside of religious communities; they may actually abuse at rates lower than the general population of men and of public schoolteachers during similar time periods."

WakeUp&SmellTheRoses • 4 years ago

"at rates higher than other groups of men" - The religious problem is after the abuse. The COVER-UP!! The gullible masses have been brainwashed to think if they speak up to officials about this terrible crime, they will get a n eternal punishment. The ultimate way to manipulate the masses to get away with abuse.

selderane • 4 years ago

Cool goalpost moving.

WakeUp&SmellTheRoses • 4 years ago

What pulpit cult leaders say when confronted with their crimes. Another way with how they have gotten away with the abuse so long.

#Marsing83639 • 4 years ago

Speaking of abuse, does your party still write laws prtecting H0M0s3xuality?
So funny when one of you Communists try and take the moral high ground.

Guest • 4 years ago
WakeUp&SmellTheRoses • 4 years ago

No, a close example is what has happened recently with some college coaches. Every1 started treating them as legends. Usually the 1s with winning records, a small number. But with pulpit cult leaders, its all because the gullible have been brainwashed to thin they are blessed.
political leaders? - they have also committed crimes by abuse. Same as religious.

#Marsing83639 • 4 years ago

Say, has your party stopped murdering unborn children for their body parts yet? Or do you still support it and the killing of new born infants?

Granted the catholic church bypassing any government or law enforcement oversight is the real crime here.

I agree with that and as I stated above ^. That is an unfortunate problem with the history with religious sectors is they move the priests or just give them another job within the organization. Mormons, Scientologists, Muslims and Buddhists all do this. My only point is if somebody molested my kid I don't care if its the pope, Mother Theresa, or Helen Keller they gonna get hurt. I know others don't see it this way I'm speaking for myself. Somebody's title or societal moral occupation means nothing to me. Jesus would help me with my retribution, not Jesus Christ, my Puerto Rican buddy with heavy hands. 😎✌

WakeUp&SmellTheRoses • 4 years ago

" I don't care if its the " - good for you. But many are still brainwashed. The gullible masses are getting educated that winged horses do NOT exist nor resurrected zombies. They are overcoming culture/family brainwashing