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Bethany Brandon • 7 years ago

Y'all DO understand that you're reading a magazine FEATURE article -- not a news story-? This is not intended to be a 'just the facts, ma'am' rundown of what allegedly happened; it's more like a conversation you have later with your friends, where you're listening to the one guy who knows the latest. In this context, the thundering line of Bandidos rolling toward Twin Peaks is just great storytelling. I love Skip Hollandsworth's writing (damn, he's good) and more than that, I trust him.

Johnathan • 7 years ago

Yeah, he's good. And the media has no ethical obligation to avoid throwing out conjecture and falsehoods that could jeopardize the integrity of the trials of over 150 Americans who face 15 years to life, most for simply being at this location (admitted by WPD, but justified by stating they all were there for a meeting over turf and drug sales, yet disproven when the meeting agenda and purpose was released by the hosting organization). I'd bet if a member of YOUR family was there, ol Skip wouldn't seem so trustworthy.

Bethany Brandon • 7 years ago

I see no evidence of conjecture or falsehoods in Skip's story. What are you talking about? Specifically.

Bmac • 7 years ago

Half assed story by a dead in the water bloated writer. Get your facts straight before writing this type garbage that actually taints any possible juror who may get assigned to this court debacle. You probably don't want to be swinging from Reyna's nuts any harder once the inept actions and violations to judicial procedures comes to light.

SolidStateTactical • 7 years ago

This article is simply fake news. Not much substance and a lot of rhetoric and straight up falsities. Does Skip think at this point in his career that he can just wing it? Do some actual fact-checking and investigative journalism, because this is just plain foolish profiling and innuendo.

leviguy1947 • 7 years ago

What exactly is fake within the article? It isn't enough to make a general accusation of inaccuracy if you want to be taken seriously.

frankcallender • 7 years ago

I think you are fake or a digital clone, a holograph, or you are the DA in disguise.

PearlsGal • 7 years ago

You know, the charge 'Engaging in Organized Criminal Activity' sounds sexy, dirty, and exciting, doesn't it? One should look at McLennan County's court dockets every week. Nearly 3/4 of the people in their 'fair county' are charged with that on a weekly basis. I have been collecting their docket calls since May 2015. Charges are largely EOCA, messing with kids, or possession of meth. Real nice folks.

wacojames • 7 years ago

Total garbage.

Mike Smith • 7 years ago

Not a single thing that you said about that atrocity is true. You should have some shame for writing something that belongs in the National Enquirer.

Murphy • 7 years ago

If it seems peculiar that a prosecutor with access to miles of video depiction of folks shooting at one another chose instead to seek indictments for the conspiracy offense of Engaging in Organized Criminal Activity, then you should check out the background of the ongoing feud between AR-15 (Abel Reyna, take the 15 years) and the Waco P.D. http://downdirtyword.blogsp... The Legendary Jim Parks

ACT_Cowboy • 7 years ago

Would question just what innaccuracies exist in the article. Am a Wacoan and have followed the case very closely. For my 2 cents it's a very well reported piece about the incident and fail to see innuendo or foolishness. Any commentors got any backup for their allegations or are they just "Outlaw Biker" friendly?

Mike Smith • 7 years ago

Oh and try the Wikipedia for atrocity and for the Bandidos MC.
"High Noon," my butt.

Mike Smith • 7 years ago

Sure, your own news paper and your Sargent Swanton's video statements on YouTube.

ACT_Cowboy • 7 years ago

I have, at current count, saved 737 pages (Word for Windows - no spacing Arial 11 point font) with regard to EVERYTHING and all sources surrounding the initial incident, legal proceedings, etc. You Sir are full of what some people call B.S. with regard to an understanding of the incident. (That covers your second comment) As to the first - Atrocity on Wikipedia fails to mention the Twin Peaks shootout where at least 5 deaths were NOT at the hands of LEO's but does list a German heavy metal band, cruelty, crimes, war crimes and crimes against humanity. The Bandidos, since the 60's (and I was around when they were founded) have ALWAYS been a OUTLAW M.C. Club, just like the Hell's Angels. Sonny Barger was in charge back then if I remember correctly. Wikipedia does have 4 paragraphs about their (Bandidos) "criminal involvement". I'm too damn old for some dumb a$$ to try and blow smoke up my butt. Try it with someone else. If you want to respond do so with fact not inuendo.

Mike Smith • 7 years ago

Truly, reading is not your forte. Up for discussion is the veracity of the article that describes: "Close to high noon, a line of Bandidos thundered toward Twin Peaks on
their Harley-Davidsons. One of the Bandidos’ bikes either struck or
nearly struck a prospective member of the Cossacks in the parking lot.
Cossacks bounded over the patio railings, and the Bandidos were ready
for them. It looked like something straight out of a Sam Peckinpah
movie. Wielding clubs, brass knuckles, baseball bats, knives, and
handguns, the bikers beat, stabbed, and shot one another. Three officers
grabbed their rifles and opened fire, bringing down as many as four
bikers. Inside Twin Peaks, there was complete pandemonium. Waitresses,
bikers, and other customers dove for cover. Several people hid in the
bathrooms." And it says: "Several Waco policemen and Texas Department of Public Safety troopers,
who had learned that a potential confrontation was brewing, also
arrived, and positioned themselves in a grassy area overlooking the
restaurant." High Noon on the Grassy Knoll. How poetic.

But you are just about as smart as you want to be so I will not delay you with anymore facts. Have a nice life in your world. You can rest assured that the rest of us will keep this one up as well as is possible.

ACT_Cowboy • 7 years ago

If reading is not my forte, please explain what is inaccurate with regard to your quotes. Journalistic license was taken by Texas Monthly in its presentation, but not in its reporting. The event did take place almost at Noon. as the Bandidos entered the parking lot. One of the Bandidos’ bikes either struck or nearly struck a prospective member of the Cossacks in the parking lot. A melee, complete with firearms did ensue. All the weapons described were also used in the fight. Three officers did fire their M-16's (on semi-auto) and account for probably four of the 9 deaths (the others were from members of the two GANGS involved.) Bikers did beat & stab each other, witness approx. 20 non life threatening injuries. Uninvolved folks Did run for cover (as well as some of the Bikers) in the bathrooms (and kitchen for that matter.) Those are the FACTS, so where is Texas Monthly in error? Care to dispute them or are you just an OUTLAW BIKER or wanabee?

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ACT_Cowboy • 7 years ago

Show me where my facts are "skewed" and I'll kiss your exhaust pipe. BUT, if you can't, how bout you kiss mine?

Guest • 7 years ago
ACT_Cowboy • 7 years ago

All you managed to show me and anyone else reading this thread is your ignorance and lack of ability to deal with facts, not unsubstantiated B.S. opinions. Sorry, but I'm not inbred, my family's from MS, MO, WI & TN and I'm no relation to Swinton, don't even know him, Personally am glad you don't live here, too. And finally, not of a mood to FOESAD; but you can if you really want to.

Faux Gibbler • 7 years ago

Abel Reyna is an IDIOT.

frankcallender • 7 years ago

If you ask me I would have to say that the DA should be charged, tried and convicted for all the collateral damage he caused the families of the innocent bikers that got charged and given a million dollar bond. Not only the families but any creditor who was owed money by any of the bikers who were not involved in any REAL crime and lost it because they were arrested and held unjustly. If justice is served, the least that should happen is Mr. Reyna should be expelled from Texas and never allowed to do anything in law enforcement for the rest of his life. If it was left entirely to me, I would have him picking cotton fro the rest of his life in one of those Texas prisons he has helped to overfill since he has been in office. What a complete and totally out of control megalomaniac.

Jose Alverez • 7 years ago

Yes, both the Bandidoes as well as the Cossacks are well known here as motorcycle safety enthusiasts as well as flower arrangers. As for Looney, aptly named, I hear his daughters both date a guy from each club. Looney even kept order as the girls pulled trains.
As to the alleged shootings, it was just a squirt gun tiff that ended up with Super Soakers being used, ruining tablecloths.
See? No problem!

johngalts_brother • 7 years ago

The article conveniently leaves out the autopsy reports of who was killed by cops bullets vs biker bullets. Even if you hate biker gangs (I do, I worked with them during Wyoming oil booms-assholes, all of them) you should never allow a prosecutor to do group prosecution because once the prosecutor finishes with the gangs he or other prosecutors will now think it is a usable tool to go after groups that don't like government behavior. We lose our freedoms in increments.

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Henry Ridgeway • 7 years ago

All you morons complain that Hollandsworth got the facts wrong, but never point out the specific error. Instead of tattoos and motorcycles, you should have spent your money on education.

Guillermo Piedras • 7 years ago

Nine dead bikers.
A good start.