I like the transformer-like audio. Waiting for someone to decompose the audio to its individual components.

Luckily, more than 99% of the comments are complementary than hate.

Magnificent achievements, but just one of many milestones china is achieving in 2021. Chinese achievements, regardless if you like or not, should serve as motivation calls to American younger generation to start to work as hard as chinese, repudiate racism, learn to judge others based on their scientific competence and characters (not based on lies, bible, and whatever jesus trump say).

Very good! Now, about the Uyghurs...

Well they get preference to get into university as an ethnic minority - so maybe you will see some on the space program team...

What about Uyghurs? They do suffer a bit in 2020 due to lack of international tourists in Xinjiang. But domestic tourists make it up nicely in 2021. Just to be fair, you have dropped +100k JDAM/hellfire to densely populated muslim town/cities, killed +800k, de-housed +10Millions of them. You could not possibly care Muslims, can you????

I saw many of them on my visit to Xi'an in 2016. They did not look oppressed.

Those were most likely Hui Muslims in Xi'an. Very different ethnic group (and actually a bigger one). Hui groups never had terror attacks - so they never had any restrictions. Muslims in other countries know the differences and know the reasons why - which is why they don't make noise

Jesus Trump is no longer in office. American younger generation can start to work as hard as Chinese, but the Chinese don't have any original IP for them steal. Did China remember to sterilize their lander and rover?

I don't think so. American younger generation, the same that voted for the paralytic old man, don't like to work, they only want to use drugs, lose time with madness activism and win money easily with pyramid schemes where nothing is produced (Bitcoin). Also they hate companies and rich people.

really? how come when I visit tech company on both side of pacific, my
working language during lunch is still chinese? Where are those
"hardworking" American PhD born in this country? I can find a few, but
not enough, I just realized they are all here (aka you), welding their
enormous mouth cannon and fire away using their keyboard (made in china
btw). It is rather unfortunately Percy carry covid to the red planet,
since 10% of american got covid during the launch, while China has zero
local case during Tiawen's launch.

You steal IP over lunch. Got it.

Considering that there are four times more of you than there are of us, how is it that a few thousand of the American younger generation at SpaceX seem to have no trouble kicking your entire nation's arse?

LOL, no needs to use profanity. 🤣 kicking the entire nation's rear???? Who can do better job than your Jesus Trunp, as he did and keep doing it to USA? Do you feel it?

Sports are gods here sadly…that and dancing. I remember a video of a China audience’s reaction to Western style dancing. They looked quite stern. My thoughts exactly. Concerts and tractor pulls and NASCAR are beneath contempt for me as well.

But the worst part of America?

Toys

—and the wrong toys. Too many wrestling toys and no spaceship toys other than Star Wars. I think toys are important towards pushing kids eyes up away from the cell phone. Do you have photos of toy stores there to share?

I understand there is a bookstore there that looks like Borges’ Library of Babel. I want to see China make fly-back boosters. The engines will last longer that way perhaps…keep hypergolics, but for OTRAG.

China loves their wrestling toys, too.

Just look at how well John Cena performs for the CCP.

The sports are all going woke and bending over and grabbing their ankles for China so I'd say the bloom is more than a bit off that particular rose.

Audiences in totalitarian countries often look expressionless if they haven't been told how to react in advance. Nobody wants to be the first to register an actual reaction in case it turns out not to be officially sanctioned. That can get you and your whole family cut up for parts.

Are there any styles of dance of which you approve or do you live in one of those pre-Kevin Bacon towns like in Footloose?

Concerts, tractor pulls and NASCAR are out too? I guess you don't live in one of those holy roller Southern towns after all.

I hope the Chinese take your rocketry advice though. It will put them even further behind than they already are.

Who's the shadow of holding the camera

Hold the image up to the light to check for the bamboo fibers ...

ROFL. You made me snort!

Great achievement by China. That they are only the second country in the world to have achieved this, just says how expensive and difficult it is to do.

Brill

It's relatively not so. They accomplish 3 objectives -- orbit, land and rove -- all in one single expedition and mind you... at their 1ST attempt..

shouldve added sample return , then it wouldve been the greatest space mission

Obviously I should have been more specific. I'm referring to landing and operating on the surface of Mars.

Either way, you are right , it's a major achievement and as per Tweedy's commnet, a thus-far unique one.

Ever notice how advances in technology tend to make life easier? For example, how easy would a 300 mile trip have been in 1900 or even 1920? We already did the hard work of making the technology, so it's just sitting there for the Chinese to use (I'm not talking about IP theft). The Chinese Mars lander/rover is a wonderful accomplishment, but don't over aggrandize it. I would be much more impressed if they managed this 20 years ago.

That's mostly true. I think the real interesting competition would be the coming Mars sample return mission, as both NASA and CNSA have proposed plans to complete the challenging task around 2030.

China has been a pioneer in copy/paste from several decades. They just copied what NASA achieved, nothing creative 'Out of the box' or new approach to land on Mars. Anyways, what really concerns is were they well sanitized to be without any virus like the Chinese coronavirus that is out all over earth. Sadly Mars doesnt have good gravity and these virusus could grow bigger like mosquitoes/flies if they are on Mars. So we can't ever trust Chinese.

yes, they sow
life on Mars and a billion years later, Martian beings will wonder if life can exist in a scorching hell like planet earth has become thanks to our great behavior ...

Take your paranoid fearmongering elsewhere please.

It never ceases to astonish me how co(s)mically ignorant all you accusers of "copy-and-paste" Chinese space achievements are of how difficult real rocket science really is.

China's intellectual property theft from the governments and corporations of the US, Canada, and Western European nations has been well and truly documented for decades.

While the Chinese are to be applauded for a successful mission, their entire tech industry will have the stink of having been based on technology that was stolen.

If they don't want that stink hanging about them, then perhaps they should stop engaging in wholesale industrial espionage.

Mmmm is it a prime example of Poe’s law? Or…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

Copying and pasting rocketry? Never be that easy. Otherwise we would have seen many more spacefaring nations on the planet today. On the other hand, why would you want a "new approach to land on Mars"? Why re-invent wheels?

Nevertheless, the Chinese seems to be claiming the following device, which is designed to adjust the angle of attack, was used during Martian EDL process for the very first time. Is that true?
https://twitter.com/Eurekab...

I even seem to remember something like a spoiler on a capsule

If China is always copy/pasting they weren't the first.
In any case, the Chinese invented fireworks and the idea of using igniting chemical to propel object skywards.
Look at how many are copying this idea now but seldom mentioning the originator.

all innovation is not truly original because ultimately every original idea is influenced by something else or are you going to stop using alternating current and the internet because their European and American inventions..

A Trumpy boy space freak

You have zero understanding of what a virus is.

The entire world knows about virilogist Zhi Zhengli working in Wuhan lab who engineered the bat virus to inplant 4th protien to make it viral amongst humans, so she will have entire knowledge about the virus that apprently leaked from labs while she was researching. Also apologies, I meant can't trust China communist government, not Chinese nationals / individuals as I have few friends from China who live here with freedom, they are wonderful poeple, they too confided that the expansionist government has become a nightmare and citizens there not able to do anything freely or express their thoughts freely.

I know it was almost certainly engineered in the Wuhan lab.
But your understanding of what a virus is is zero if you think it can evolve into multicellular creatures.

oh, that was just mentioned in lighter vein as a joke, never meant seriously that it would become a fly or like mosquito..

Lol. It definitely looks like you were serious.

LOL, hmmm, that was joke. But on a serious note, with the Chinese government, the world largely can't trust anything. See how they changed from global factory to global curse!

So china first lander has real video capability? At least The little camera they set down for selfie.
Been waiting for NASA to do that for 45 years. Still waiting. I'm I wrong?

Very nice footage.
The sounds were eerily moving

They did it for each Apollo Moon landing, as those of us who watched will never forget.

I think the remote camera thrown by the Tianwen-1 orbiter for selfie in the middle of the trip to Mars is more impressive than this camera placed on the ground.