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Have been attending the TLM for some years now. I love it and I am near 80 years of age. The young people love it as well. I won't live long enough to see the end of this new order stuff but I pray the end will come sooner rather than later. I had the occasion to attend two of these modern parishes recently. Not Catholic, not even close. A dishonor to our Lord who was hidden in the Tabernacle out of sight until you got through the maze. The pews are arranged so that one can see everyone and the mass celebrants are in the middle, on a rise with an empty table. Jesus does not appear to be with us in the traditional way and I suspect in the supernatural way either. Thanks be to God for my parish and the ability to attend mass there. Pray to stop this Vatican II disaster before the entire world ends up in the un-Heavenly place.
I went to Mass at a church in Oakland, and the tabernacle was next to the door to the bathrooms. The side chapel had no chairs or kneelers, and what looked like a troupe of 'hippie' dancers leapt and high stepped flinging scarves during the novus ordo Sanctus. I walked out in a daze.
I cried for almost two hours! Not one girl "altar boy," not one non celibate married deacon, not one woman cantor raising her hand in what appears to be a Nazi salute in a vain attempt to prompt people to sing, no endless lay extraordinary "ministers"of Holy Communion, no "ministers" of the cup, no one grabbing the Blessed Sacrament out of the priest's hands and walking away, and then popping IT in their mouths like a cough drop, no " gathering song" or sappy music celebrating the community. What was this? A REAL CATHOLIC MASS!
Curiosity: With regard to the procession, there was one Knight of Columbus, knights and one lady of the Order of Malta, two knights of the Constantinian Order of St. George, and then one man in red robe with a green and white or gold chord that went over his shoulders. I know nothing of what his dress indicates. Does he have a papal honor; is he part of chivalric order; is he a rare layman who holds a position in the apostolic household or curia?
Many thanks.
The gentleman in red was a knight of the Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus. You can read about it here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/.... I know him and he confirmed that this was the vesture he was wearing.
Thank you! I found a picture of him and did some research on him, but I couldn't identify his insignia.
I am assuming that you are talking about this man: https://uploads.disquscdn.c...
He appeared to be a District Marshall (District level Color Corps Commander) of the Knights of Columbus.
Here is a page on the KOFC website that talks about the Color Corps: http://kofcbc.org/fourth-de...
Ms. Rao, (I met you many years ago when you were but a girl; now you are a young lady.)
I do not mean this man. This the KoC at the beginning of the laity. No it is a man at the end of that group of people. His attire is predominantly red.
Oh I see! I misread your comment, as the word "green" jumped out at me. I will look into the man to whom you are referring.
Yes, the Novus Ordo can be celebrated in Latin. The problem addressed by Summorum Pontificum was that celebrating according to the Missal of 1962 required permission of the Ordinary. Pope Benedict XVI removed this requirement to allow any priest with the requisite skills to celebrate according to the 1962 Missal, subject to a few other requirements. He also directed that when a group of the laity request access to this form, the bishop should find a way to accommodate them.
Exactly right. I would argue the least important distinction between the TLM and the Novus Ordo mass is the language. Rather, the abuses that were forced into the Mass in the guise of this translation, the rewriting of some prayers, complete omission of others, inclusion of some questionable ones, is more concerning than the language.
Amazing clarity there, thank you. For anyone who believes the Novus Ordo mass is just an English version of the traditional Latin Mass, you’ve exploded that myth quite effectively
Is anybody giving odds on Pope Francis making Archbishop Sample a Cardinal?
I noticed, that the good Bishop did not mention Pope Francis once in his excellent sermon. Cardinal? I doubt it. The bishop's next assignment may very well be the North Pole!
long odds, I'd say..... it's an entirely different agenda
We were there, and what a glorious moment it was.
What does it mean to be Catholic: that which is Truth, and always was and always will be.
Thank you to all that preserved the Old Mass, living and deceased, and were persecuted because of it.
Much gratitude to Archbishop Sample as well. I do think, humbly so, however, that there has been a distinct " rupture" in the Church. I don't think you can square a circle, as they say. To me, it is clear as black and white.
But then, perhaps, theologically, I am incorrect. Something very bad happened within the Church, long ago.....and perhaps, this pontificate has cast a light upon it, in all of his dark ways.
At 1:47: 18, Msgr Charles Pope, commenting on the beautiful liturgy being enacted …
“I hope you can see the kind of training and care that the sacred ministers exhibit. This requires a great deal of holy learning, a kind of 'THEOLOGY ON THE KNEES' … “
Ka-POW !!!
Catholic Traditionalist's thanks must go to all who arranged, authorized, and advertised the tenth anniversary commemorative High Mass, for Pope Benedict XVI's "Summorum Pontificum"---in Washington's Basilica of the Immaculate Conception, on the campus of the Pontifical Catholic University of America.
Pope Benedict's liturgical basis is found in the Council of Trent's perpetual decree, "Quo Primum" AD-1563. The Council of Trent invented nothing new regarding the Mass Rite---other than officially codifying it's ritual---to eliminate multiple variations.
Very special thanks are due for Portland Oregon's Archbishop Alexander Sample; and also thanks to Monsignor Walter Rossi, Rector of the Washington Basilica.
Faithful Traditionalists have had to wait fifty years for this hopeful sign of a true revival of the immemorial liturgy of the Roman Latin Rite Mass. The newly invented "Novus Ordo" Rite lacks a necessary Apostolic linage. No one, no one at all, is empowered to invent new rites. No Pope, nor any Council, can invent a man-made Mass Rite out of thin air---insulting tradition.
Of course, the powerful destructive Modernist "ecumenical" movement, is still very much alive, even evident in Rome itself, and may openly continue in illegal Mass-tampering?
Loved that he didn't even mention the Bergoglio in his homily while making it clear that he's going in the wrong direction. Seems so many others feel obligated to constantly throw him the proverbial bone.
Why is anyone surprised at the number of young people attending? It’s clear, Our Blessed Lord drew them!
After all, IT IS, The MASS of All Ages!
It is the ONLY Mass handed down Legitimately, through the ages!
It is the only Mass that produces Saints! And the only Mass that gives Divine Grace!
It’s the only Mass spoken of (by Saint Pope Pius V), in Quo Primum - of which no one can change, or prevent any Priest from saying,.. EVER! and the only Mass that that matters!
It’s the only True Mass that will save your soul!
May the Heavenly Angels and Saints pray for us during these dark days when our Pope, Bishops, and Priests are leading many souls to Perdition through their novelties of new Masses, new Rossaries, new Sacraments, new Catholic Catechism, new canon laws, new name for the Catholic Church (Conciliar, after Vatican 2, which invented & allowed such travesties!); all to go along with the “New World Order” !
And may you be in heaven 10 minutes before the Devil knows you’re dead.
AMEN!
What a wonderful sight after all the horrific news this past week around the world, inside our Church and in 'the world.' Thank you for putting this up. Our first duty as created beings before God, is worship. This is how it's done!
Congratulations to everyone who worked so hard to pull it off.
"Prominent Archbishop Celebrates High Profile TLM at National Shrine in Washington, DC" Why should this be news, but sadly, it is.
Watched it live on EWTN. It was exquisitely beautifully. And beyond classy - it was radiantly Hochkultur like only old-school Catholics know how to do it. In essence - eternal and anti-modern. This is what we fight for - the survival of this profound salvific spiritual beauty against the tide of the grim and gray intellectual slum of the Vatican2 spirit.
I think, that from at least the 19th century, and I believe perhaps before that as well, a Cardinal had to be at least in minor orders, and hence a cleric. The secretary of state of blessed Pius IX was a member of the College of Cardinals, but was only deacon, and remained so all his life.
Armand Jean du Plessis, the Cardinal-Duc de Richelieu, was not a layman but an exemplary bishop before becoming a statesman. He implemented the decrees of the Council of Trent in his diocese of Luçon and composed a widely circulated catechism, Instruction du Chrétien (1621).
And today (Sunday, April 29) there will be a Missa Solemnis at Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Gainesville, VA. all are invited
Most excellent. Reminds me of a celebration of the TLM I had the great fortune of attending at St. Francis de Sales Oratory at Ohio & Gravois in St. Louis -- voted the most beautiful Catholic church in North America a year or two ago. The building and the Mass were so complementary of each other it was breathtaking.
Upstate NY is indeed a bit grim. Hopefully you're close to Connecticut, where good things are going on.
Can you get to Buffalo? There is a Latin Mass there weekly through Una Voce, and across the border into Ontario there is Latin Mass daily and weekly at St. Aloysius parish in South Thorold - only about a half hour from Buffalo. Google for addresses and directions.
The pope can't understand why the young love the TLM. I have been attending TLM for the past 10 yrs., and we have a ton of young people. We have an average of 10 altar servers on Sunday and 20 on feast days-all male. I am getting ready to attend mass at this time.
Many of those fully Novus Ordoized young people leaving the Church to become Protestants, some to dabble in Judaism or Islam or Buddhism or Hinduism or New Age paganism, some to play at agnosticism, some as worshipers of the sexual revolution, some as drug partiers headed to addiction, some as devotees of the religion known as WASP democracy.
Jorge Bergoglio/Pope Francis says we should not be judgmental about the choices they make - unless they choose Tradition: that must be warned against.
I really wanted to be there. As I live in California, it just wasn't feasible. I'm so glad to know that it was well attended!
Could you imagine the face of a churchman reading and trying to understand this sentence 80 or 90 years ago? Good grief. "...thanked the pope emeritus profusely on behalf of all those present for giving the Church so great a gift as to allow the Latin rite to be celebrated once more."
80 or 90 years ago? How about just 60 years ago?
Good. In his sermon did Archbishop Sample thank Archbishop Lefebvre, whose stubborn defense of the Old Mass put events in motion which made this Mass in Washington possible? Did he include thanks to the thousands of Catholics who were shamed for attending the Old Mass when it was forbidden?
It wasn't forbidden de jure, but de facto.
Our Franciscan religious community, The Family of Jacopa Association was blessed to be present for this Holy Liturgy at the Basilica. We accept women members who are over 40 years old and wish to live an authentic religious life wearing a traditional habit. https://www.familyofjacopa....