God bless you Cardinal Burke. We all stand with you with our Rosaries and Crucifixes in our hands. St Louis De Montfort once said, "I could conquer the world if I had one Rosary in one hand and in the other hand the Crucifix". He also said this, "“Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic or be led astray by the devil.” Makes me wonder, is the Pope and the other religious who are teaching heresy today saying their Rosaries everyday? We all need to hold fast to Holy Mother Church and all or her Traditions. Our Lady will triumph in the end. She promised this to us at Fatima. Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us and please don't stop.

If anyone wants another "smoking gun" after Hellgate, consider PF's sermon at the Chapel of the Domus Sanctae Martha on 5th November 2015. Does this smell like Universal Salvation All Round, with little room for Hell? I suspect you can claim that the Pope misquoted himself, or didn't say what he meant, or didn't mean what he said, or he is very old and can't remember what he allegedly said.

https://w2.vatican.va/conte...

"Therefore, the Pope re-emphasized, it is “Christ who unites, who makes unity; Christ who, by his sacrifice on Calvary, made it so that all people are included in salvation”."

"This, the Pope added, “is the dialectic between exclusion and inclusion: God has included everyone in salvation, everyone!”. And “this is the beginning: we, with our weaknesses and our sins, with our envy and jealousy, always have this attitude of excluding which, as I said before, can end in war”."

Universal salvation has been a subject pre-dating Francis. Actually, the "hope" for universal salvation as Von Balthasar wrote about 50 years ago. JP2 sort of gave fuel to the concept in hoping that Hell was nearly empty. So called orthodox apologists have toyed with the idea in recent years. Neither embracing it or rejecting it but many pointing out that the Church has never declared anyone to be in Hell - a leading argument the likes of which one prominent radio apologist is famous for.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has proclaimed universal salvation from early on in its history. The LDS church believes in ongoing revelation so it is internally consistent in proclaiming this. However, the Catholic Church does not believe in ongoing revelation but rather "development of doctrine". That concept explains how the church can look so different today from the way it did in Apostolic times. Newman refers to the acorn becoming the oak tree. Unfortunately, development of doctrine (the church formally teaches papal infallibility as defined at V1 in a "new" way than prior to that council) development of doctrine can be a two edged sword as we are seeing. The "new" understandings of the primacy of conscious over all else is posited as a development. If the Catholic Church someday proclaims universal salvation as de fide it too would be explained as a development of doctrine being unfolded by the "Spirit".
That said, there are vexing questions regarding salvation. All the Jews including the great Prophets who died before Jesus - are they saved? Is there a "dual covenant" at least as relates to the faithful Jews who died before the Good News was preached? Melito the bishop of Sardis who lived in the mid-second century asked in an Easter sermon whether firstborn sons of Israel all those years before had been spared in anticipation of the blood of Jesus. Beyond that, what of all those who never heard the Good news preached in their lifetimes and did not have the opportunity to embrace it? Vexing question out of which "baptism of desire" in part comes from. The Church does not teach pre-destination so some divine process must be in place for those who never heard of the Good News? Otherwise God seems to have predestined them to hell?
While there are legitimate questions about salvation within an orthodox Christian worldview, those questions must fir within the boundaries set in place by the reality of Hell. Francis, perhaps JP2 and others in the church who are positing universal salvation have stepped outside those boundaries. If the Catholic Church ever proclaims universal salvation it will be teaching heresy.

I am not competent to explain the Catholic doctrine of "predestination" in a combox, beyond saying that there *is* such a Catholic doctrine.

"The madness of Bergoglianism" serves Satan's desire for the ruin of souls, lost to Hell. Imagine someone considering suicide, perhaps due to a difficult illness or relationship, or a woman who is considering an abortion. Now they hear "the madness of Bergoglianism" telling them there is no Hell; do what you like!

"The madness of Bergoglianism" must be stopped. Even as he became Pope Phrancis the Phony, I asked myself: how could a man who is praised by Hollywood, abortion providers and pedophiliac homosexuals and who associates with George Soros (the militant atheist and anti-Christ of our times - if not the one prophesied in Scriptures), have ever been allowed near the seat of St. Peter?

Deo Gratias:
"The Spirit of God says, “The Pope and the Vatican, that’s right the Pope and the Vatican are not furthering My Kingdom, but are aiding the kingdom of darkness.

Many are saying that this is the last Pope, but it’s not for the reasons they think.

This will be the last Pope, for what I the Lord God am about to do.

I will expose this Pope and all those under his command for all the corruption he and the Vatican have been involved in for centuries.”

The Spirit of God says, “There is a shaking and a quaking coming to this Pope and the Vatican, for I will split the Vatican and it’s leadership wide open for the entire world to see the inner workings of this ancient beast.

This Pope, the Vatican and all it’s leadership, will come crumbling down.

I will pull back the veil to show how deep and dark the deception has been.

You whisper in your inner chambers ‘we answer to no one. No one is above us; No one can hold us accountable.’

I the LORD God see it all and the time has come when I will now hold you accountable for your darkness.

This exposure will be of such magnitude that the people will say. ‘What do we do now? Where do we go now? We want nothing to do with this. We have no religion now.’

Millions will walk away from their religion, as this will affect other religions as well.” Mark Taylor/ SordRescue.com/ Author of "Trump Prophecy.

The rest of the clergy is sleeping, maybe just as soundly as when Jesus found his apostles sleeping in the garden.

Good line, Chris:

"the reduction of the Ten Commandments to The Ten Ideals."

Reminds me of Malcolm Muggeridge's alleged quote of an Anglican Bishop decades ago on the Ten Commandments. "They are like an examination paper....eight only to be attempted". We can see how that has worked out for the dying Anglican church.

In what's left of the Catholic Church, The Ten Commandments will not even have the status of Ten Ideals or Ten Suggestions. Why should anyone pay any attention to any organisation which can discard its core beliefs like a pair of old socks?

Thank you, Cardinal Burke, for all you do to uphold and witness to the Catholic Faith during these dark days of Francis’s Reign of Terror

No and Yes.

Apostle Burke has done nothing yet.

Declaration of the election of a new pope is the only method that will work.

This will follow a declaration that the chair is empty because of heresy.

This is just so stupid! You have a cardinal of the Catholic Church demonstrating to the whole world the necessity of resisting this maniac in Rome. And you say he’s done nothing? What exactly have you done thus far?

Carinal Burke has been demoted and put on sideline, That's all he has to do to yell out loud for warning people. Pray for him...

Remember, all of these Cardinals are products of VII, still think JPII is a "saint." They are all soft; that is why they have done, and will continue to do (drum roll)...nothing!

And where are those on the OTHER side i.e. Not of V2. Have you heard them?

All modern saints need to be reassessed. Where are the miracles? And, like you said, JP2 has been a disaster.

I‘m living in Austria since more than 10 years and I‘m Anke to say that Bishop Woelcky is a 100 percent modernist one!! The other bishops are in best case neo conservatives a la JPII or BXVI, that means they are following the path of the „Nouvelle Theology“.

I love Cardinal Burke and for that reason I don't care for anything he says anymore unless it's to the effect of, "Bergoglio, repent!"

Words. Words. Words. Words.

"Bergoglio, repent!" = words.

It is about getting Bergoglio off the Chair.

Bergoglio off the Chair = machine shift.

Shift the machine.

He would repent if his NWO had defeated. It could be too late for his boss will come right over and take him and his minions away. God hates pride.

Again, laughable! Words from Cardinal Burke echo throughout the whole world And change the minds of millions about Francis. Words from Cardinal Burke terrify the Vatican, which is why Francis and Company have been trying to shut Burke down. Words from Cardinal Burke have already changed the course of this revolution and severely undermined the Vatican’s evil agenda. Please, God, give us more words from Cardinal Burke!

It's implied that those words are followed shortly by declaring him a heretic that has ceased to be pope (if he ever was one to begin with).

«Was Burke that non-Italian cardinal?»

No, Mr. Ferrara, that no-Italian cardinal definitely was not cardinal Burke. That cardinal was a fellow countryman. That's to say, Argentinian.

My personal guess: Leonardo Sandri.

Where did I get that inference?

http://caminante-wanderer.b...

Yeah, the Cardinal in question was Burke. The key phrase from the interview is...."beyond what is tolerable".

That tells us that Burke is at the end of his rope. He can no longer put up with this circus. Since he can no longer tolerate Bergoglio's shenanigans, he was moved to raise the issue of impeachment (or whatever the correct word is). That's how I read between the lines here.

Good Kiwi.

But I am tired of feminine 'between the lines'.

How about between Bergoglio's eyes?

What i see between the lines is that a certain amount of ambiguity, implied heresy, and selling out to appease the world IS tolerable. Another 20 years and the tolerance boundaries will be moved that much farther. Today's progressives = tomorrow's conservatives.

He tolerates the intolerable

Until he makes good on not tolerating the intolerable, he tolerates it all.

And the take-away from that interview to me was that he thinks the lay folk should correct the Pope.

I seem to remember in my murky mind, that somebody made a promise to correct the Pope some time ago.

Can Burke even get in to see Bergoglio? Can he get an appointment if he promises not to mention the dubia?

C. Burke seems very much a lone voice and one lone voice cannot effect the changes that are so desperately needed. Where are those other men who wear red and purple and are supposed to be willing to shed their blood to uphold the truths of the faith?

Who can stand CIA, KGB, FBI, Scotland Yard, M-15, etc.? Masons control Vatican for 100 years.

Courage is even more rare among the clergy than heterosexuality....

Dostoyevsky put it very well in his great novel The Brothers Karamazov: If there is no immortality of the soul, then everything is permissible.
The criticisms that Pope Francis is destroying the basis of morality are not overblown. They are accurate and true.

"Che" said,"No Hell"

Dostoyevsky was spot on target.

You might have Universal Salvation, as Archbishop Luis Ladaria, PF's appointment to the CDF, is pushing in his book.

https://www.amazon.com/Jesu...

Or you might have a huge world-wide Church dedicated to Salvation. How can you have both? No wonder there are reports of furious cardinals. If they have no love or fear of God, they love their lifestyle and are afraid to lose it.

That's called corruption of spirit that is worst.

Problem lies with the Jesuits and Bergoglio himself. Hd of Jesuits order Ven. cleric,trying to explain away Jesus repeated CONDEMNATION Of divorce and remarriage. Bergoglio francis Putting Luther stamps and statues in the Vatrican........ Plus apostate clergy and bishops like, Riosica ,Radcliffe ,Massingale & Martin amer. Mgz, German ,Austrian- schonborn, Belgium dekessel, Malta, sadly Bergoglio appointed usa bishops Tobin, cupich ,O'Connell, McElroy and McGrath etc. running loose without nary across word of reprimand from the Vatican itself.

They will be chained up, not by God's angles, but by himself, Lucifer.

Archbishop Lefebre, not Martin Luther, was right. Vatican II was the disaster that allowed Bergoglio to happen. Nor are any of the post-conciliar popes blameless. All opposed Tradition, even Benedict who weakly straddled the fence and ultimately chickened out. Time to get back to basics.

I have been praying daily, among other things, this man Frank will enter St.. Peter's and proclaim that hell does not exist. We can then all proclaim in una voce He is no longer the pope.

Betraying Chinese Catholics is enough to be sentenced Hot, Hard labor in Hell forever,

He will never stick his neck out like that. He will always insulate himself with a Scalfari, or a gaggle of toadies helping him bamboozle the laity who want to be bamboozled.

The trouble with this 2018 interview with Scalfari is that Scalfari put PF's words denying the existence of Hell inside quotation marks, which he did not do in his 2015 and 2017 reports.

Antonio Socci points this out:

https://onepeterfive.com/af...

That was enough to really focus attention and so far (1400 London Time 7th April 2018) there has been no denial from Rome. Sooner or later PF was going to paint himself into a heretical corner.

Exactly!! Just like this Argentinian 'Nun' that reported a conversation with the 'Pope' that artificial contraception is perfectly permissible in 'certain circumstances'. "In order to avoid ABORTION". Go to 1P5 and read the article. The nun said that he told her there were 3 methods he would condone: Condoms, a Diaphram or a TUBILIGATION. Oh right! Only to 'poor indigent women' that is! This fraudulent "Pope" is surely using people to get 'the message' out! We'll see if he denies this, but please.......don't hold your breath! He's a 'snake in the grass'.

An evil!

The faithful must not wait to be asked to make reparation by a hierarchy that appears to be blind to these times, but, heeding St. Paul, must proactively intercede on their behalf before God, Our Lady and the Saints, through various acts of prayer and penance that, may it please God to so grant it, the scales drop from the eyes of these bishops and cardinals as they had for Saul on the way to Damascus, that they may act in defense of truth. Yet, the efficacy of prayer before God increases the more the soul strives for perfection. The more detached the soul becomes from the things of the world, yes, even those who by their state in life must work and interact with the world, the greater the impact of those prayers and penances in drawing down grace that God's most holy will -- which, as St. Paul tells us, is our sanctification -- may be accomplished in and through all Catholic Bishops, and that includes Cardinals and wayward Popes. If we do not fight to root out sin and imperfection in our own lives, in vain do we expect bishops and cardinals to (quickly and decisively) root out evil in the life of the Church. It will come, as the article rightly points out, but it will come in measure (and intensity) according to the measure and intensity wherewith we fight the evil in our own lives. Just a thought.

Excellent!!! You are about the only person on here that has given sound advice without bashing anyone.

"If we do not fight to root out sin and imperfection in our own lives, in vain do we expect bishops and cardinals to (quickly and decisively) root out evil in the life of the Church."

A truism. Repeating it is virtue signaling.

No John. Right reason tells us we can and should engage in a battle against evil churchmen - do not use prayer as a excuse.

Do you have your house in order?

Unfortunately the resolution for Cardinal Burke and others is a return to Vatican Council II which started this whole mess in the first place!

Bingo