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27273100 • 3 years ago

I'll stay a heathen. The christian religion has gone straight to the dogs.

A Ghost to Most • 3 years ago

I'm not buying the No True Scotsman defense the writer puts forth. These people are true christians.

alfredkarius • 3 years ago
Meanwhile, the FBI says QAnon is a domestic terror threat.

I find it hard to believe that the FBI, the CIA and the dozen or so security agencies with all their resources and highly skilled IT specialists and hackers are unable to find out who Q is. To end all this QAnon bullshit all that is required to to find and out Q.

Nigel Gudinow • 3 years ago

Christian Nationalism has done for Christianity what QAnon has done for sex trafficking: making an unfortunate situation even worse. Historically (i.e. more than about 30-40 years ago), evangelicals argued that the best way to change society was through conversion: if you followed Jesus, you would become a better person and thereby make society a better place for everyone. You were "salt and light" in your community, perhaps even turning aside God's wrath at unrighteous societies. Government was a necessary evil, but no one would confuse the kingdom of God and the kingdom of man (only theological liberals, who thought they could bring the Millenium through reform, thought silly things like that). Now, of course, theological liberals are essentially invisible and it's the evangelicals who think they can speed God's return through political power. The net effect, of course, has been to make actual conversions, actual people who decide freely to follow the way of Jesus, much less common, and evangelism has become orders of magnitude more difficult as non-Christians understandably assume that to be a Jesus-follower means to be a white Republican. As a Christian (and historic evangelical), I can agree that this evangelicalism needs to die: Jesus said, "I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first. Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent, and do the works you did at first. If not, I will come to you and remove (you) unless you repent."

A Ghost to Most • 3 years ago

Once you brainwash em with religion, they'll believe, and do, anything.

Dolmance • 3 years ago

Maybe we should tell these virtual syphilitic fools that the Lizard People are only raping our children with the connivance of the Democrats, because they're afraid Global Warming is going to make the reptiles go extinct. And if we commit to ending Global Warming, then they will go back into their underground nests and leave our children alone, to grow up without being sexually molested by their allies the Mole People.

Or we could put a wall up around the Red States, with a sign at the entrance that reads, "Camp Moron," and fuhget about it.

chess • 3 years ago

Anybody around for awhile will probably recall all the tabloid newspapers (prior to the Internet) back in the 1980's and 1990's fixated on child care centers with underground tunnels and Satanic priests abusing children, or "recovered memories" of mentally disturbed people who claimed their boring accountant father was secretly a High Priest of Bauphomet and impregnated them to sacrifice their baby in a ritual attended by Geo HW Bush and Henry Kissinger and had something to do with a New World Order and foretold in the Book of Daniel. It was all very closely linked with the wave of "Born Again" Christian fundamentalists who were taught in Church that Satan was everywhere, and that demonic possession was a common thing. Throw in a few modern twists with Bill Gates wanting to microchip you with a vaccine, and you have QAnon. It's rehashed misreadings of the Bible and The National Enquirer we've all seen before, and aimed at the same low information morons. But back then, no FB, Twitter, or the Internet to spread it like now But it's nothing new.

Rachal Schlurr • 3 years ago

hahahha
Over at fox news, they're claiming that the QANONinnie Shaman is a democrat plant now that he wants to testify against trump..

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Bruce White • 3 years ago

The right wing propaganda machine has fully incorporated evangelical media to spread its message of hatred and division. Many of their stations stray from religion in order to bash evil, Godless liberals and Democrats.

Randy Foster • 3 years ago

QAnon is a organization intent on using and abusing those who have been sexually victimized..
Vast majority of children who are sexually abused know their abuser well , typically it is another family member.
QAnon's actions diminish the harsh reality of living with P.T.S.D.. Casting allegations for political gains makes QAnon the newest abuser.

ceoil oíche • 3 years ago

When they say they're ready or willing to die for Trump or the latest iteration of right-wing craziness, they mean that they're ready or willing to kill for Trump or the latest iteration of right-wing craziness. Because they're not going to self-immolate like Buddhist monks. If they die it will be in the process of killing their perceived enemies. That's you and me and every non-Trumpist in government, every progressive, every liberal, every Muslim, every non-Likud Jew, every Christian who actually attempts to emulate Christ, every Hindu, every person from a "shithole" country, every woman who doesn't know her place, and everyone with skin darker than their own or an accent they don't like.

rebeltoady • 3 years ago

Read or watch "Offering To The Storm", a novel by a Spanish author. It was co-opted to develope a large piece of QAnon mythos.

DachshundUberAlles • 3 years ago

The best indicator that one will fall for a scam is that they have done it before. Religion is the gateway scam that makes all the others possible.

Finbackrich • 3 years ago

Religion is their

gateway vulnerability,

to QANON,
an similar.
Once they
'suspend disbelief'
to support
one false reality,
their a prime target
for others similar,
and then
walk a land
of illusions and delusions,
where factual reality

is ignored, and
......lost......

Tamara Beinlich • 3 years ago

And screw Jeff Flake!!! His son murdered 22 dogs and then the law dropped all charges!!! Had they not ignored the dogs for days they would have realized the aircon was broken and not told the owners their dogs ran off then piled their bodies into a shed! https://arizonadailyindepen... Green Acre Dog Deaths: Evidence Proves Dogs Didn’t Chew Through Wire https://www.dogingtonpost.c... The bastards got 23 days in jail for killing 22 dogs and they are still in business! https://www.azfamily.com/ke...

Tamara Beinlich • 3 years ago

Flake used his position as senator to get all charges against his son dropped! https://i.pinimg.com/236x/5...

flyinroom • 3 years ago

The new Republican mission statement...In Q we trust.

Lonesome_Coyote • 3 years ago
Tamara Beinlich • 3 years ago

Time to tax the Evangelical church. If they are going to deal in politics. And the damn government better stop giving them tax money. Under Bush I saw HUUUgh mega churches built in the middle of corn fields in southern Missouri, northern Mississippi and Alabama after he started giving them millions of tax payer dollars!!!

Jet Gardner • 3 years ago

From his mouth to God’s ear…
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Guest • 3 years ago
DachshundUberAlles • 3 years ago

Fear of death is what drives religions. Promise people an "out", they'll do whatever you tell them.

Widkey • 3 years ago

These crazy fuckers are the human version of Covid.

Brian • 3 years ago

Really.. these assholes just need to be swiftly and completely eradicated. They are failed citizens and failed humans... trash.

JuanLiberale • 3 years ago

I am old enough to remember back when republicans were sane racists.

Remember the good old days when Republicans were just racist, sexist assholes that didn't want to pay taxes?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Jet Gardner • 3 years ago

Jet's List 14
Church vs State

Thomas Jefferson, Founding Father
  "The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves These clergy in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ."
George Washington October 20, 1792
  "Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society."
Benjamin Franklin
  The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."
Founding father James Madison - principal author of the U.S. Constitution
  "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise"
Thomas Jefferson March 4, 1801
  ... and let us reflect that, having banished from our land that religious intolerance under which mankind so long bled and suffered, we have yet gained little if we countenance a political intolerance as despotic, as wicked, and capable of as bitter and bloody persecutions...
Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Baptists of Danbury, Connecticut, 1802
  "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state".
Thomas Jefferson 1813
  History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government.
This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose.

President John Adams 1797
  In the American Founders Treaty of Peace and Friendship Between the United States and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary,
As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has itself no character of enmity against the law, religion or tranquility...
Our founding fathers were determined NOT to let religion interfere with government.
  Fact:
 In the Constitution of the United States (1787-1788; 1st Ten Amendments ["Bill of Rights"] ratified 1791; no reference to any god is to be found in the body or in the amendments to the Constitution

 The senators and representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States. (Article VI, Section 3, The Constitution of the United States.)

 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the freedom of press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. (Amendment 1,The Constitution of the United States.)

Fact:
 The pledge of allegiance didn't contain the words "under God" until religious fanatics inserted it in the 1950s and around the same time "In god we trust" didn't become a permanent fixture on our paper money, though coins had it earlier when states had control

Jet Gardner • 3 years ago

While there's still time https://uploads.disquscdn.c...

jimmyboy99 • 3 years ago

"Donald Trump is out, but parts of the Republican Party warmly embrace his dark legacy of white supremacy, the crazy QAnon conspiracy and civil war wrapped in faux Christianity"

It's a stretch to call this 'faux Christianity'. What is faux about it? For sure - not all Christians are fascists. But many are - and this has always been the case. Show me a fascist regime anytime in history, and I will show you the Catholic hierarchy supporting it for eg. In Afria and L America evangelicals prominently support totalitarian and facist regimes today.

I get that many Christians want to distance themselves from facism. But...it's ahistoric to call this behaviour 'faux'

Law • 3 years ago

Christianity itself is a fascist ideology

jimmyboy99 • 3 years ago

Well - I understand the sentiment and have some sympathy. 'Christianity' though isn't a single thing - and the Catholicism I was brought up in was not facist. The beauty of big religions is that they can and are whatever the leaders want them to be. Same for Islam of course.

A Ghost to Most • 3 years ago

It's the Gozer of religions; it's whatever the adherent wants it to be.

Overkill • 3 years ago

To your point. What ever the leaders wanted. The Vatican enabled war criminals and child murders to escape justice. It was the individual priest and parishioners that tried to save lives. Not so the pope and the other leaders.

Although Bishop Clemens August Graf von Galen's 1941 sermons opposed the regime, Hitler biographer Alan Bullock wrote: "Neither the Catholic Church, nor the Evangelical Church ... as institutions, felt it possible to take up an attitude of open opposition to the regime".[2]
In every country under German occupation, priests played a major role
in rescuing Jews; Catholic resistance to mistreatment of Jews in Germany, however, was generally limited to fragmented, individual efforts.

Mary Fulbrook wrote that when politics encroached on the church, Catholics were prepared to resist; the record was patchy and uneven, though, and (with notable exceptions) "it seems that, for many Germans, adherence to the Christian faith proved compatible with at least passive acquiescence in, if not active support for, the Nazi dictatorship".[3]
In the post-war period, false identification was frequently given to German war criminals by the Vatican and Catholic priests in order to facilitate escape to South America.[4][5] Clergymen routinely provided Persilschein or "soap certificates" to former Nazis in order to remove the "Nazi taint"[4]