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NYCitizen • 5 years ago

you go to be kidding

chinese spies like american universities even better and have no problem geting in the top schools (Columbia especially), buy prime real estate in Manhattan with cash, get jobs with just student visas...and so far no one is investigating any of it systematically

handy • 5 years ago

Why wouldn't they like United States universities? They can get a top tier education, easy access to a visa, and they can do all their spying activities on the side. US universities love foreign students as well, because they pay 2-3x more per year than a US citizen.

Geoffrey Skoll • 5 years ago

How about the US spies at US universities. US universities, especially the elite ones, have been hotbeds of CIA, before that OSS, Naval 'Intelligence,' etc. Check out Skull and Bones. Get some history.

Lawrence Hall • 5 years ago

"Hotbeds," "Skull and Bones," "get some history." Oh, please.

Joe Buckstrap • 5 years ago

Universities have long been staging grounds for CIA recruitment. They must be getting desperate they're even recruiting though Pandora ads.

Geoff Pritchard • 5 years ago

You think the CIA should be recruiting from the McDonald's drive-thru? Genius.

handy • 5 years ago

Geoffrey thinks he is an expert after watching Allias

Geoffrey Skoll • 5 years ago

What is Allias?

Sloanl • 5 years ago

most likely he reads conspiracy theories and thinks he's "enlightened"

Fizz • 5 years ago

Almost like American intelligence agencies want American intelligence officers...

Erv Harvey • 5 years ago

because they get along so well with the socialist Professors?

Joe Buckstrap • 5 years ago

The Russia hysteria has reached a fever pitch of absurdity that outperforms the stupidity of the Cold War years. Even then Russia was hyped as the "threat" it never was. Today the Russian economy is 1/10th the size of the US and they're decreasing military spending. While much has been made of "Russian interference", "Russian meddling", "Russian hacking", "Russian collusion", the evidence is actually very thin to non-existent. In other words, it's propaganda, Butina Slutskaya included. In fact, there is every indication that the whole narrative was conjured by the CIA in conjunction with the Podesta camapign management to divert attention away from the fact that HRC is an un-indicted mega-felon who rigged the primaries and defrauded registered voters with the DNC and ran a shadow government off of her private server. Believe me, anyone else would be rotting in prison right now. Recall that the CIA actually endorsed HRC during the election season in unprecedented opeds. In any event both of the corrupt monopoly parties have embraced the Russian meddling narrative for the same reason: the only evidence of election fraud emanates from the Washington cesspool. That's where you'll find the master plans of voter roll purges, switched registrations, data dumps, voting machine hacking, "lost" voter records, etc. The simple fact is that there is no election integrity in the US anymore. It is rigged soup to nuts and guess what? It's not the Russians doing it.

guest9999 • 5 years ago

blah blah blah
yeah sure
Komrad, nobody believes you, sorry dude
evidence is strong and even 100% direct

Geoff Pritchard • 5 years ago

Thin evidence IS NOT the same as propaganda. Nice try, comrade.

guest9999 • 5 years ago

and it's not even thin, it's solid and direct, as direct as you can get in some cases

RandyLeanear • 5 years ago

The thing that is the strongest and most direct is the way the Democratic Party is trying to destroy our country.

Babayaga1114 • 5 years ago

Truth be known, if I was a Russian agent I'd head straight to An American University. Where else could you find such a gold mine of people that hate their country and would do anything to throw a wrench in the works in the name of socialism/communism...

Sloanl • 5 years ago

the republican party

Guest • 5 years ago
notinittowinit • 5 years ago

The same foundation as defined in the communist manifesto? mein kampf? Yeah.. that's what liberals have reduced themselves to.. much like the McCarthy witch hunt.. but this time they are out in the open, doing it..

Kevin • 5 years ago

In fairness to colleges and universities, if consulates don't approve Visa applications, postsecondary institutions can not give the student the necessary paperwork to enter the US and study. Consular approval is the first, and most challenging bar, that potential students must clear. So perhaps the attention should focus on the lack of capacity in State Department officials to detect those who are entering as foreign agents, and not actual students

Jim • 5 years ago

ALL Wibbly-Wobbly`s cabinet are Russian agents - what`s new ?

Righteous Mind • 5 years ago

Russia hack is totally real, the only issue with the narrative is that the hacking is actually world wide. nobody targeting Ds. Everyone is a target. Sometimes you get credit card data, sometimes you get bank account passwords, and sometimes you get emails of celebrities or politicians. Each bit has relative value. Anyone saying they were targeted is simply saying they are a member of the human race. Watch for China type controls over the internet globally as politicians use these events to apply more control over people in the name or protecting them of course.

SailorRet • 5 years ago

It is a good thing that Trump never attended any of his business classes at the University of Pennsylvania, because Russia wants educated spies. Too bad Fred Trump bought his son a fake degree but could not buy him an education or smarts.

linda • 5 years ago

Russia is a cyber threat and a military threat, I would suggest you look at China if your concern is about student spies, they are more dangerous and are involved with the stealing of intellectual property. Russians are ten times more culturally and religiously oriented to American or Western values, so they fit in and gather info from idiots. The Chinese are good bullshooters and have little in common with our culture, so naive Americans look at them as "wonders" from across the sea. Either way, we should focus on educating Americans, not foreigners. End all H1-b visas NOW, limit immigration to only those who have talents we dont have, which means, very, very little, maybe 100,000 per year at the most.

Dennis Chandler • 5 years ago

They really liked Cambridge in the '30's too.

Joe Redington • 5 years ago

In fairness to colleges and universities, if consulates don't approve Visa applications, postsecondary institutions can not give the student the necessary paperwork to enter the US and study. Consular approval is the first, and most challenging bar, that potential students must clear. So perhaps the attention should focus on the lack of capacity in State Department officials to detect those who are entering as foreign agents, and not actual students.

Lawrence Hall • 5 years ago

In my retirement I teach part-time for a nifty little community college, and every year or so the Department of Homeland Security investigates me and everyone else in the college as a routine matter. I'm a Viet-Nam veteran, worked double shifts to get through university (the G.I. Bill is overrated), go to Mass each week, love my country, raised a good kid, have a house, a couple of dogs, all that scary stuff.
But I've got some bills and would like to take a real vacation - where do I apply to be bribed by the Russians? Is a fondness for Yevtushenko, Dostoyevsky, and Russian composers a plus?

Geoff Pritchard • 5 years ago

Give me a break ----- HSA investigates EVERYONE at your nifty little community college? Every few years? HAHAHA. Unless your CC is really the School of the Americas at Fort Benning, I doubt the HSA has the will nor the resources to waste investigating the welding instructor at your CC.

You must be a real gem of an instructor to toss out BS like that. You need a trip to the confessional.

I bet you walked 10 miles uphill in the snow to get to your double shifts as well. What a joke. I hope your students see your idiotic post.

Oolon Hoek • 5 years ago

Seriously. I mean 5000 dollars a month from the Outdoor channel as a consultant?

Person223 • 5 years ago

How in the world is the GI Bill overrated? My employer loves to hire people who went to college on the GI Bill. Their military experience plus their college education brings something to the table that not many have. It's sort of a the whole is greater than the sum of the parts situation.

Dawn Cornes Tomczyk • 5 years ago

My son is doing ROTC at the University of Minnesota which has $14,000 per year tuition. He gets $4,500 tuition assistance from the Army per year. So yeah, over rated.

M. Tiro • 5 years ago

Using the expression "the Trump-Russia imbroglio" is dishonest. Any "imbroglio" that exists has been wholly created by the Democrat Party and the American media. Further, placing that dishonest sentence in the same paragraph with references to Communist spies like Kim Philby and the Cambridge Five is the worst kind of guilt by dishonest association. ProPublica does good work, but you're messing it all up with this kind of shabby, unethical leftist nonsense. You're better than this. Someone should edit Golden before he stains your brand beyond repair.

Geoff Pritchard • 5 years ago

One can tell when the investigation is getting a little too close when the whiners complain about sentence placement within a paragraph. HAHAHA --- that's a gem.

Crawfjord • 5 years ago

Edit for what? To make one party look more guilty or innocent? This is a bipartisan issue but your echo chamber is more important than the United States' integrity apparently.

1PierreMontagne1 • 5 years ago

More Russian Hysteria? In this article Daniel Golden appears to be another anti-trumper Journalist spin doctor trying to convict a target in trial by media.
Not just innuendo but slanted innuendo that anyone having any kind of public meeting with a person of Russian origin is meeting with a spy or is a spy.
Where are the articles of Radicalized Al Qaeda affiliates working as Nuclear researchers at University with US defense research contracts - no it's more important to go after Russian students who were Students in American universities because Mueller need more innuendo.
So is Golden a CIA disinformation officer?
After all this revival of the "Russia is bad Cold War scenario" is coming for Brennan appointees in the CIA who have a history of making it up as they go. Even Trump is concerned about that reputation. He has great confidence in our intelligence agencies but is that in confidence of their being accurate or in being on their own agenda, vastly different than what the voters would have ever dreamed. Like confident in our intelligence people in that if the American public ever found out they would lynch them.

TT • 5 years ago

Like to peek in a locker room of sexy naked Russian women ...huba Huba

Æþelhad • 5 years ago

Thanks, Joe. All we need is yet another Committee for Unamerican Activities

Eric Marc Otto • 5 years ago

Commies!

Bottom Line: • 5 years ago

Just another red scare of a different color.

BigJared • 5 years ago

When you allow dark money and dual-citizenship, the doors are wide open for any foreign power to 'meddle', and they all do, just like we do to them.

This Russia hysteria the media is ginning up is little more than a gaslighting campaign.

linda • 5 years ago

propublica is not friendly to the first amendment, they refused to post my reply, which simply said "libbberrral disffffffunction"
cry yourself to sleep, im rofl

Weeaboo Jones • 5 years ago

i guess my conservative friends were right that universities are full of commies

guest9999 • 5 years ago

except these days, conservatives are much better overall target goals than liberals where only a few of the far left of the far left progressives make sense, noticeably bigger pool of susceptible conservatives in recent years

Win Bigly II • 5 years ago

News reports are out saying the Russians are going to interfere with the 2018 elections to help Democrats win this time.

Monte • 5 years ago

No, that's just Trump saying that. And as we know, Trump is a pathological liar

linda • 5 years ago

and "you can keep your doctor!"
"the ERA of big govt is over!"
"mission accomplished"

you need to take your meds, 4.1 growth rate, low unemployment, you Trump haters need to get a focus on how the previous 3 potuses lied out their butts all the time while the media sat by quietly

Geoff Pritchard • 5 years ago

Big difference btw "you can keep your doctor" and "Russia will help the Dems win in 2018". One is an attempt to undermine the credibility of an election while the other is a policy miscommunication.

Did your salary increase by 4.1%? Bills drop by that amount? Gas stations sending you rebates for 4.1% of your purchases in the 3rd quarter? That number means bupkis to the average voter in real dollars.