This is something that needed to happen. As awful as his replacement will be, and his replacement (barring a St. Thomas Becket style conversion) will be awful. Yet, this must come to pass for the purification of the Church. The Charcoal Fire is burning in the Vatican and the 30 Pieces of Silver are echoing throughout it's halls.

I pray that Gerhard Cardinal Müller (and many others) will publically align with the Four Cardinal's. I pray for the Church, especially the stupefied laity who are being led off the cliff of eternal Damnation by their damnable wolf-shepherds and the vast multitude of pathetic hirelings.

Pray for priests, for they are about to undergo the test that will determine their eternal fate. May God strengthen them to face the evil that is present.

Matthew 6:23 "...but if your eye is not sound, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!"

May God bless and strengthen you and your brother priests. These are remarkable and disheartening days. As a cradle Catholic, I fear for my beloved Church but always take comfort in knowing with certainty the gates of Hell will not prevail against it. Stay strong for us, the faithful.

I agree, much as it literally sickens me to see it happen.

But let it also be a lesson. Prelates who seek to straddle the fence as Mueller has, are going to go down anyway. They might as well go down fighting. Mueller was a classic post-Conciliar "orthodox" prelate, no, he was the penultimate post-Conciliar orthodox prelate, living in a pretend world where orthodoxy and heresy can co-exist in peace together.

May Mueller wake up to this fact and may all the actual Catholic prelates now see this in high relief. Trying to appease this Pope while maintaining an orthodox position is NOT going to save you from the axe.

I hope Mueller and the 4 Cardinals and Sarah and the rest of the supposed orthodox prelates burn with a righteous rage as the rape of the Church continues. I hope it motivates them to action.

May God make this clear to ALL of them and may God save the Catholic Church.

The so-called "hermeneutic of continuity" was on life support under Francis/Bergoglio with Mueller as head of the CDF. Now, it's officially deceased. Let the chips fall where they may and, as you said, may every man in the episcopate display his true colors, with none of this middle of the road nonsense.

Reminds me of the scene in Unforgiven where the prisoners are ordered to punch the hero in the face.

They are all in line to savage Mother Church now.

They are either going to do it or they are going to defend Her at whatever cost. They in their weakness brought themselves to this place.

Jury's out. We wait to see. Personally I have faith in God but none in Catholic prelates. The culture of the Catholic Church screams effeminacy and sodomy and indecision and lukewarmness and silliness.

Are Catholic prelates even capable of righteous indignation or are they all spiritually emasculated eunuchs?

I have faith in God but none in Catholic prelates

So therefore your mind should be at peace. No matter the machinations and stupidity of Catholic prelates they still are not God hence all their attempts will be rather puny in the big scheme of things. God IS allowing them to wreak their havoc for a reason. Let us all just pray to overcome, to fight the good fight to the end.

Perhaps because "the RC Church" and God are not connected?

Do you mean Unbroken?

I think it may still be there with Cardinal Sarah as the last public doctrinally faithful prelate at the Vatican, imo. I think Pope Francis fears Cardinal Sarah like King Saul feared David. The spotlight is now on Cardinal Sarah. Come December this will be nothing short of a story for the ages. May Our Father, our Blessed Mother, St. Michael and all the Church triumphant be our strength. May the pope repent, may we fightbfor the Church

Eric, what's significant about this December?

Just that it's the end of the year

"May the pope repent" -- do you think that you might be a little proud? Perhaps what you want to fight for is not really the Church but to defend some kind of self-attachment to an idea of faith, power and the past that you learned and then became dependent upon for a sense of self-importance and identity. The world is a little bigger today than 17th century Rome.

methinks you made a wrong turn. check your gps and keep travelling.

May the Pope repent. Likewise may we all repent for our sins. If you take my prior statement as coming across as possibly being too proud, that's your prerogative. Yet, I think this is the first time I've seen you comment on a post of mine so I think you would agree maybe there needs to be a few more exchanges before a conclusion is reached regarding the level of my pride.

A bigger world has no bearing on Divine Law. I'm not sure of your faith or philosophy but as Catholics we believe in our Lord and Creator that was/is the start of the universe although He himself never had a beginning.

And........He will save it. Not without Her seeming destruction, but never fear, the Church will be saved. And the good Lord through His Blessed Mother WILL save the Church!!

Dear Rod H., "penultimate" does not mean what you think it means. It simply means "the second from the last". Panae = almost Ultimus = last. Common error.

Error shmerror.

I thought it was obvious to everyone he takes a distant second place to ex-Pope Ratzinger who has been a supporter of Bergoglio from the beginning. ;)

In all seriousness, I am disgusted with the whole lot of them.

Thought I presume you do not really believe in Catholic doctrine or care that much about it since you speak like this about its pope.

This could be Cardinal Muller's greatest opportunity yet to come right out in the open. to speak the truth, and to support the true Faith--no longer held back by any constraints or misplaced confidences.

I SO hope he does.

A thousand times yes. This is something that needed to happen. The phrase the "iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete" comes to mind.

Prepare for the worst to come all the while clinging to the Lord and our Lady.

I agree Fr. The crux of this mighty battle is now upon us. May God have mercy on all of us!! John Paul ll was very prophetic when he said the vast majority has no idea what we face. (I'm paraphrasing of course)

Amen Father.

"I pray for the Church, especially the stupefied laity who are being led off the cliff of eternal Damnation by their damnable wolf-shepherds and the vast multitude of pathetic hirelings."

How would I know if I am one of them?

This is absolutely the time of the 'Great Confusion' within the Church. But.......if you pray your Rosary, the Blessed Mother will NEVER allow you to be deceived by the evil one. It was one of her promises of praying the Rosary! Through Her Rosary and Her Scapular She will 'Save the World.'

I could not agree more. Stay very close to Our Lady by praying the Rosary faithfully. Our Lady will see us through this. Despite the unalloyed horrors of our times, God is in control. Fully. How horrified must the Apostles have been in the storm tossed boat, all the while believing the Lord to have been asleep throughout? Then, with just one utterance He becalmed the tempest. This is our storm. The Lord appears to be asleep. But He is not. At the point of His choosing He will, in an instant, calm the storm. We must remain calm, full of confidence in the Lord and His and our Blessed Mother. Plot a straight course between the fixed points of the Eucharist and the Rosary and trust in Him whose constant refrain in the gospels was "do not be afraid". We must not put our trust in princes, but only in Him who wields ALL power in the heavens and on the earth and under the earth. This is a test of faith, a time of sifting. Did the Lord not say that the wheat must grow among the tares until the appointed time? The wheat and tares are to be found in the world but not only there, but in the Church also. One third of the angels fell and judas walked alongside the Lord for years. We should not be surprised by the evil in our day. Vigilant yes, combative yes. But never fearful nor despairing. Let us remain at our stations, modelling Her who when things seemed at their bleakest, remained there at the foot of the Cross.

Thanks but I would like FrRP to explain what he meant by stupefied laity.

I meant what bab's posted below. I didn't mean 'stupid' laity. I meant people who have been so confused by the their bishops and priests that they are in a stupor (confused, unable to think clearly) when it comes to knowing, believing and understanding the Catholic Faith.

Would God forgive a repentant sinner who stole a million dollars and absolutely has no means of paying the stolen money back?

As long as the thief was truly repentant then yes, God would forgive him. However, the thief would need to do all he/she could do to make reparation for the crime, and if it were not enough, then the thief would make full reparation in purgatory.

I think he meant exactly what he said - those who have been stupefied. It was said in the context of the brake with Church teachings, which is easily observable to a any thinking Catholic with even a minimal Catholic education.

Dear flower of St Therese, according to FrRP, what he means is that he knows and the laity does not know. But since he is a Fr, he may also be one of the bad ones. So do beware little flower. Remember the poor pope is trying to shake the church of the peadophile priests, thus Mueller's sacking int he first place.

That is not what I meant, I posted what I meant already. Merrily we troll along, troll along, troll along...

So what are the options Father? I see only a few. One can camp out and find home in the Eastern Rite, which honestly appears to be the best option. One can find a traditional church, perhaps under say the Lefebvre camp or one can, as you put it, stay and remain faithful to the, "damnable wolf-shepherds and the vast multitude of pathetic hirelings." Otherwise, are you suggesting the "stupefied laity" be rebellious against those set in authority over them?

I returned home to the church starting about 3 years ago concluding last year. I was one of the stupefied laity when I left. Now that I've "come home" it is like coming home to a home no one has cleaned and toddlers were left to run wild. It is a mess. Personally, I have come to a point I don't need anyone to tell me what the problem is. It is quite clear. I suppose I am looking for what the solution is.

Lefebvre was excommunicated as were his bishops. To my understanding, Benedict XVI lifted the excommunications on the Bishops after Lefebvre's death. I did find a church that is Latin Rite only and Williams is their Bishop. However, he's had a swirl of controversy for being a holocaust denier. Then there is the Novus Ordo and its adherents who I'm assuming make up your "damnable wolf-shepherd" block. These are ok with AL because if they are not, they are out. I have only found, for the most part, continuity in the Eastern Rite. Don't get me wrong, once the AL army get their victory, they will continue to turn their sites to the reformation (and destruction) of the Eastern Bloc. But if you have a better solution, I'm all ears.

Maybe the Church exists now as a scattered remnant with no visible head.

Their has to be a Pope otherwise Our Lord did not keep His Promise.

Your image of cliff-falling into Hell is interesting now knowing Muller's replacement who has sort of (like, you know) reserve hesitations about Hell's population. (ref., recent post at Mahound's Paradise).

But, you know (like, what the . . .) as Fr. "Z" just said, "We've dodged a bullet" with this one.

Or, have we?

According to how unerring and effective Bergoglio is when it comes to moving the traditional Catholic prelats from the high ecclesiastical positions, he should be actually called "Francis the Sniper".

good one (unfortunately)

pickin' 'em off one after the other

Unfortunately, it would have been better, had Cardinal Muller been "sacked' as a result of defending the faith, the Magisterium.
No one seems to want to take the Cross. It will lay at the feet of the humble priest, the servant of God.
Don't worry Father RP. The laity will be there for each of them, that is what we were born for, perhaps.
This apostolate of One Peter Five and a few others have helped in preparing us, I pray.

Prayers remain always for you and all priests. And we shall stand with our priests,.....no matter what.

But isn't Meuller and those other four prelates expected to be loyal to the Victor of Christ on Earth? And isn't that vicar supposed to be infallible on faith and morals? Therefore, are you not just playing with words here?

Welcome to the troll list. All you would need to do is read a bit more than you have and you wouldn't post the way you do. Bye. Bye.

Just saw his response published today: all is well, nothing to see here, it's all good, the Pope and I agree on things.

How can that possibly be?

:|

Father, if Benedict XVI will say anything directly to this current mess, when do you think that will be?

I don't know, I'm not him nor am I God. So, your guess is as good as mine.

Why would he? He has publicly supported Bergoglio every step of the way.

Actually, three times since last October Pope Emeritus Benedict has written in support of Cardinal Sarah and against Pope Francis: twice on liturgical matters, including celebrating ad orientem, and once as identifying the two great threats to civilization and the Church as atheistic secularism and violent Islamic movements. He may yet say something related to Amoris laetitia.

Pope Emeritus Benedict also said to the newly appointed Cardinals recently: "The Lord will win in the end." Much is implicit in that statement !!

Good on Benedict

Indeed! And whose side will the five new Cardinals be found on?