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oaguilar • 4 years ago

The West is not a reliable partner, it changes policies with presidencies, it uses sanction mechanisms, blacklisting, etc. It demands "democratic" changes regardless of a country social idiosyncrasy, culture and religion. China's policies are stable and they don't care much how countries run their internal business.

R. Arandas • 4 years ago

The only way for this to happen is if India and China managed to resolve THEIR territorial disputes permanently.

J T • 4 years ago

The author assumes that Pakistan as a nation state deliberates over its short term and long term interests, alliance strategies, foreign policy implications, etc., etc. However, for most of its history Pakistan has been ruled by a small coterie of military and feudal elites. Democracy has been a fleeting and fragile, and mostly a fig leaf for this ruling coterie.

Bottom line, this coterie will act either in its best interests and/or how it perceives to be in the best interests of Pakistan. The analysis by this author though well-meaning, changes nothing.

technor • 4 years ago

Interesting Article! But fundamentally, Pakistan has no bargaining position in any capital in the world except in China. Thanks to its terror support, it has near zero credibility across most of the world. Its future economic prospects look bleak and despite all this, Pakistan is not ready to abandon its core strategy of fomenting terror. China is happy to overlook all those concerns and pump up funds to take as much control as necessary. My view is that Pakistan is a very important conduit in case Malacca straits are blocked in the event of a war. So Pakistan is just serving that purpose with a hope of achieving something in return.

However, if Pakistan stands up to China, then it is practically done internationally and becomes a pariah state with little hope of recovery. The authors suggestions though meritorious conveniently ignore that very fundamental aspect. The only way out is a course correction away from the core strategy of terror. Hopefully better sense will prevail.

Sultan Mahmood • 4 years ago

Revelations state that secular people who reject Almighty guidance are blinded despite their PHd's

RKA • 4 years ago

Is That Pakistan's Almighty guidance That Forces It To Sell Islam & It's "Almighty" To China For 2 Dollars KILLING Islam & Ughur Chinese Muslims In The Process;))??!!

If Pakistan's "Almighty" Ensures That Kind Of STUPIDITY, It's Better For Pakistan To Be Without Any Almighty Guidance At All!!

Sultan Mahmood • 4 years ago

Pak/Turky groups have visited China & found foreign propaganda against China/ Ughur. To counter Lybia, Syria, Iraq style USA terrorism without INFRINGEMENT of HR or Islamic values.

Sultan Mahmood • 4 years ago

Wali Aslam, Ph.D. is Associate Professor in International Relations in the Department of Politics, Languages, and International Studies at the University of Bath, United Kingdom. Please stay away from keyboard Mr Aslam

life form • 4 years ago

Why? This was a sober, well written piece that expressed a coherent view, and the reasons for that view.
I was thinking that I would hope to see more from him.

Did he express something that you didn't like?
Maybe you'd like to talk about why you think he's mistaken?

Sultan Mahmood • 4 years ago

Your juvenile assessment of Pakistan China alliance is flawed & an utter disregard of Pak State interests

RKA • 4 years ago

Right!! Better For Pakistan To Sell Islam & Allah For 2 Dollars To China Under"Almighty Guidance" ;))!! Lolz!!

Sultan Mahmood • 4 years ago

Shut up go away and water the goats. You have been ruled 1000s of years by foreigners.

Sultan Mahmood • 4 years ago

Never read an utter nonsense in my whole life, such as this article.

Sultan Mahmood • 4 years ago

Pakistan people don't agree with your fallacious analysis at all.. wWe sincerely believe you are liar & a national traitor

life form • 4 years ago

You've written five one line insults but still won't, or can't, coherently express why you think Wali Aslam is in error.

Sultan Mahmood • 4 years ago

Quran 5;51. O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies; some of them are allies of one another. Whoever of you allies himself with them is one of them. Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people. 52. You will see those in whose hearts is sickness racing towards them. They say, “We fear the wheel of fate may turn against us.” But perhaps Allah will bring about victory, or some event of His making; thereupon they
will regret what they concealed within themselves.

life form • 4 years ago

You answer with what the Quran says is God's will.

I noticed the Christian Bible says that all those who do not believe as they do are similarly estranged from God's guidance. And are the Jewish God's chosen people, as the Torah claims? They can't all be correct, can they.
Perhaps these exclusionary dogmas are edicts that were written to advantage the mullahs, priests, pastors and rabbis. Each represents themselves as "God's Word".

Omar Khokhar • 4 years ago

usa has deceived pakistan on 3 different occasions.
1.bangladesh birth.
2.after using pakistan to defeat soviet union.Pakistan got nothing but terrorism in return.
3 after nine eleven.promised opening 4 highend universties WHERE ARE THEY.
PROMISED DEVELOPING TRIBAL AREA .WHAT HAPPENED.
FINALLY I WILL MENTION OLD PERSIAN PROVERB.' AZAMUDA RA AMUDEN JEHEL IST.(ONCE TRIED 'TWICE TRIED TO BELIEVE IS BIGGEST STUPIDITY.)
CIA could not have written this article better.

RKA • 4 years ago

""Pakistan got nothing but terrorism in return"??!!
Lol!! Islam & Muslims Are Forever CRY BABIES!! They Will NEVER Accept That They Made Blunders; Islamic Blunders!!

Man-ju • 4 years ago

Looks like speaking ill about China has offended more Pakistanis than speaking ill about Pakistan itself. Chinese money has paid off in earning good loyalty. Anyways Pakistan is destined to fail, a country built on fake ideologies and hatred always fails. Read the comments below to know Pakistani mindset.

Sam • 4 years ago

The great DrMajorlyPhD, Expert (Goat Droppings Oph Wisdom) , once wrote with brilliant insight: "So in many ways, Siachen is about the territorial integrity of China, about which there can be no compromise by Pakistan."

Ever the courtesan in the service of wealthier countries; be it China, America, or Shoddy Arabia.

Aslan • 4 years ago

Indians have been saying this for 70 years.Pakistan is here to stay.Pakistan created because of Hindu racism caste system and intolerance towards minorities.Dalits,Sikhs,Kashmiris and Muslims have no rights in India.Muslims get lynched by mobs everyday in India.Partition of India was the best solution for Muslims.

RKA • 4 years ago

Lol!! Ye!! Pakistani Army & Government Which Routinely Kills Muslims (Shia's, Ahmedi..) & Other Minorities Is The Way For The Future!!

By Pakistani Logic, India Should Give It's Brainwashed Muslims, The Same Rights As Hindus & Other Minorities In Pakistan!!

Perhaps, That's What Needs To Be Done!!

Aslan • 4 years ago

Pakistan army and government does not kill any minorities.Sectarian killing have taken place in the past by groups supported by countries outside Pakistan.Thousands of people from minority communities have been killed through communal violence but since BJP came into power it is official policy of government to kill members of minorities.The media reports lynching of Muslims by mobs on a daily basis.

Sam • 4 years ago

The partition was the best solution for Hindus, because it got rid of some of the Muslims, the most rabid of the lot. Unfortunately, the majority of Muslims still remained inside India and continue to hold down the country. Meanwhile, the Hazara, various Shia sects, Ahmadis, Mohajirs, Christians are hunted down and massacred inside Pakistan, while the same groups thrive in India.

RKA • 4 years ago

Ye!! Partition Was The Best Choice EXCEPT For Keeping Muslims & Islam In India!! ALL Indian Politicians Of The Time Knew That Islam Is A Militarized Political Ideology, NOT A Religion!! And Yet!! This BLUNDER Happened Under The Noses Of The (Sleeping) Community Of Hindus!!

Aslan • 4 years ago

The way Hindus are treating Indian Muslims,a civil war is coming to India.

sami shahid • 4 years ago

USA should end its alliance with India ! India is never going to fight China ! India is busy in a financial flirt with both the US & Russia ! USA should stop providing weapons to India because India is going to use all these weapons against Pakistan while playing a "Chinese threat" victim card !

RKA • 4 years ago

Lol!! Ye!! Pakistan Should Continue Selling Islam & Allah For 2 Dollars To China & Still Claim To Be Islamic!!! What A JOKE This Abnormal Terrorist State Pakistan!!

sami shahid • 4 years ago

No ! Let me tell you the correct situation ! USA says it does not support any independence movement in Pakistan but at the same time it tells India to support independence movements inside Pakistan. USA tells Pakistan " do not let China invest in Baluchistan and do not let it come to gwadar". I say why doesn't USA tell India to stop supporting militants in Balochistan ! I say why can't USA invest in Gwadar ? China is helping us generate electricity ! While we face a threat on the border with Afghanistan the US government doesn't even upgrade our attack helicopters. We then pay for AH-1z vipers & MRAP vehicles but the US government blocks the supply ! Why should we end our alliance with China who is helping us develop a fighter jet that is for our security !

RKA • 4 years ago

Lol!! Pakistan The Poor EVIL Islamic ROGUE State!!

Aslan • 4 years ago

Pakistan is not a Rogue state.No country has called it a rogue state except Hindu extremists of RSS and BJP.

Sean Kamari • 4 years ago

Which of the G-7 countries does not treat the other nations as subordinates in dealings or assist them financially in the form of loans ? With the amount of money China is investing in Pakistan in terms of infrastructures - rail roads, highways, ports, dams and power plants, plus the joint development of some of military equipment, wouldn't that lift Pakistan economically from its present state and create the much-needed jobs ? Other than the negative points raised by this article, what about the positive side for Pakistan ? Which other country can offer similar terms and assistance to Pakistan. So in reality, criticism is one thing (may be with some hidden agenda), but there were no constructive suggestions offered in this pretty biased one-sided article.

Karachiwala • 4 years ago

Pakistan Attacked india- Am-ree-ka good for pakistan - hate china.
who are you to tell what should we do to ourselfs?
Time will tell this shift of powers towards east will mature into multi-polar-world, which will at least put a check on WEST hegemony over human rights, land disputes and oil wars.

Pakistan should and must support CHINA, at all cost.

RKA • 4 years ago

Ye!! And Continue To Sell Islam & Allah For 2 Dollars To China For Killing Ughur Muslims!! Ye!! Islam Of Pakistan!! Shameful!!

Joe Zane • 4 years ago

LOL last week it was "African's watch out for China", this week trying the same gimmick on Pakistan. Bet next week its gonna be the Central Asia. Sad this is what US foreign policy is now, pure and simple sabotage, non-cooperation, and protectionism.

Kauser Najme • 4 years ago

So ignorant that Pak attached India in 1971 ???? PhD??. China is a neighbor and a proven friend. Think other way around, china rivalry with India and US is benefiting Pak too. An example is military plan, thunder. Pak recently gave a good lesson to India by using it in recent skirmishes. Pak issue like many others is corrupt leadership, that's no more now as the new PM is nationalist and dead honest. He will negotiate better deals. Pak will shine.

Sam • 4 years ago

Yes, in 1971 Pakistan preemptively attacked India in the West, and then India dismembered it in the East and captured 97,000 Pakistani soldiers who had committed mass genocide against Bengali civilians. Read up on your real history, not the one that is taught in your madrassas.

Kam Guite • 4 years ago

China and USA love Pakistan as they can molest and rape her whenever they are in the mood. Concerning Pakistan, they are not burden by self-respect, dignity and honor. Getting fund is the main thing even from the atheists and infidels.

SEeAamir Yousaf • 4 years ago

As a pakistani I think our problem is controlled democracy. If controlled or conquered by or being protected by some powerful country is called rape or molesting then our subcontinent has always been like this for thousands of years. First by Aryan tribes from central Asia then by Greeko Bakhtarians , white huns, Ghaznavi and Ghori, mughals, Nadar shah from iran, Ahmed shah abdali, British and Portuguese. What is needed is a resolution of kashmir problem and then we can start talking of union like EU among SARAK countries

Sam • 4 years ago

The Aryan tribes mixed with the Indus Valley people and the resulting people make up the vast majority of Indians and Pakistanis today. And they created one of the world's greatest civilizations with immense contribution to literature, the arts, mathematics, and medicine. What contribution did the Greeks, Huns, Muslim raiders, Mughals, Shahs make to the civilization of the subcontinent? They plundered, murdered, and destroyed India's treasures, as did the European colonialists who took much more than they ever gave backhandedly.

Aslan • 4 years ago

India is a great civilization according to Indians only.Indians gave the world caste system,child sacrifice,pornography(kama sutra) and curry only.The decimal number system is supposedly from India but Indians never used it.The world owes everything to ancient Babylonians and Assyrians.Agriculture,writing,time (hour,minutes,seconds),geometry( angles of 360 deg),laws(Hamurabi),religion(Abrahamic religions) and town life came from this region.India was a primitive society until the British went to India and built schools,hospitals,universities,railways and industry.

batmanqwerty9 • 4 years ago

problrm is india think that we should first increase trade and corporation with each other before solving the kashmir problem as india did with bangladesh and china after trade some border issues were solved with both countries and quite frankly india tried peace in 1999 and got kargil war,parliament attackin 2001 and than in 2008 tried with Musharraf and got attack on mumbai at this point it safer for India not not talk at all.

Can't Talk, WhatsApp Only • 4 years ago

Welcome to assumptions galore and hypothetical BS anti-CPEC propaganda!
No one is interested to invest in Pakistan, China may be doing it for her own gains but at least we don't have the electricity crisis anymore thanks to the power plants erected under CPEC. The way these agreements have been inked with China definitely needs to be questioned but overall CPEC has benefitted Pakistan and will continue to do so if we play our cards right.

By the way, the so-called "Democratic" countries you so vehemently praise in this article were directly carrying out drone strikes and wreaking havoc with terrorism in Pakistan. It is the Pakistan army that got the situation under control. So spare me with that left-wing liberal BS that we need to work with Democratic countries. We will work with whoever we benefit from.

HexCode • 4 years ago

LOL! Pakistan attacked India in 1971? LOL! Yaar yeh kidr say rundi kay bachay nikal athay hain. Mujhe lagta hai ye lun-dhamaak badshah 2nd generation British Paki hai. Oi tujhe phata woh British tum jaise ko kiya kehtay hai? Woh kehtay hai "F*#king Paki" or teray jaise chutiye wapis kiya kehtay hain? "Ge abbah?" Hahahaha! Teri bheno ki phudiyon mein woh British goray ungliyan dhey tay hain or woh bhi sirf £1 mein. Hahaha! Chutiyas. Neech phata nahin kidr yeh ajah thay hain.

How many times has US screwed over Pakistan? I've lost count. No thanks, I'll take China any day over USA. The US is simply not a trust-worthy ally they've proved that to Pakistan over and over it's best we learn from this. China is far more better than US can ever be.

Mahboob Ahmed • 4 years ago

An ill inform writer who starts this article that Pakistan attacked India in 1971, The article stinks .

life form • 4 years ago

The writer is correct, it is you who are ill informed. There were many tensions before the event, and some war in the east.

Pakistani president Yahya Khan has told his countrymen to prepare for war on November 23rd. Russia tried to warn Khan that any attack would be disastrous for Pakistan, but Khan wouldn't listen.

On December 3, 1971 the Pakistani Air Force bombed 11 Indian forward air bases and radar installations, which began 13 days of war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

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But after that, the Indians made short work of the Pakistani forces.
13-14 days later Pakistan signed an instrument of surrender...December 17, 1971)

Gaurav Singh • 4 years ago

Read world history. Or if u believe that whatever taught in madarssa is correct then this will always happen. World stinks due to so called be-lievers.

Syed Abbas • 4 years ago

Alliance with China is good for Pakistan, looking at all aspects. China is # 1 FDI in Pakistan, and with CPEC CHina-Pak will be partner in economical allaince and this allaince is not against any country. Pakistan has only one problem with Hindustan and that is illegal occupation of Kashmir. Indian leaership should undertadn that only by solving Kahsmir issue according to wishes of Kashmiries will India benefit and they will find Pakistan as a good neighbour and a good friend. USA is going downwords and China is the next super power which will be on our bordre and Pakistan will be what Canada is to USA, a close friend and economic partner. Of course USA will be there as important country and we should treat them as important country whenever it suits Pakistani national intrest but nothing more.

life form • 4 years ago

The US isn't "going down", no matter how much propaganda the CCP's United Front Work Department pumps out.

Don't mistake the cacophony of free political speech for political instability.
On January 1 2020, the US will, on schedule, have its 116th consecutive voter determined transfer of power. Even during the US's Civil War, regular elections were held, and voter determined officeholders took their seats on schedule. That's a demonstration of deep political stability.

As far as money goes, let me direct you to this page, with Credit Suisse numbers. The page shows net national wealth of nations from the year 2000 to 2018 denominated in constant USD.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

Since the year 2000, the net national wealth of China has increased from about 4 trillion to 52 trillion, a stupendous increase of 48 trillion.

Over the same period, the US's net national wealth increased from 42 trillion to 98 trillion, and even greater increase of 56 trillion.

I would also note that the US has about one fourth the population of China, but almost twice the wealth, five times the fresh water and twice the productive farmland, is roughly energy independent, has large coastlines on both major oceans, long peaceful land borders with only two nations, exports 87% of the dollar value China does, prints the world's dominant and stable currency, has the most formidable military, has by far the largest and best university system with half the top 100 universities as well as 16 of the top 20, a decent demographic future, and remains a free speech republic with 230 years of peaceful, scheduled voter determined transfers of power.

It also invented the plastic, transistors, the integrated circuit, and the silicon chip your computer is made of, wrote the software that instructs them, engineered the AC electricity that powers it and your home, invented the internet you're using to communicate, landed 12 men on the moon, put four rovers on Mars that functioned for decades, mapped the solar system, put up the Hubble and Galileo telescopes, has two probes that have traveled 13 billion miles and still work, split the atom...I could go on you know...medical and scientific might be next...

The US has many problems, and the US has always had problems, many worse than the ones we face now. But the US is not "going down", politically or economically. This century will be a good century for America in many ways, as was the last one.