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Haki Mucha • 3 months ago

Hello Daniel,what do you say about this pc,is it good for dota 2:
Processor: Intel i3 530 @3GHz
RAM: 4GB DDR3 @1333MHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte P55
Graphic Card: ASUS RX550 2GB GDDR5
PSU: Gembird 600W Real Power
HDD: Hitachi 1TB 7200rpm 32mb cache
OS: Windows 10 Professional

Daniel • 3 months ago

Hmm, that's a tough call, as that is fairly unbalanced PC. While the RX 550 is roughly on-par with the Vega 11 iGPU in the 'Minimum' tier of our general build recommendation chart, the i3-350M is only about half as powerful as the Athlon 200GE in the lowest, 'Destitute' tier of that same linked chart. As a result, we may reasonably guess (or hope) that the overall performance of that PC in gaming would be similar to the 'Poor' tier; if that is correct, then it should be able to run Dota 2 with 30-45 FPS at 1080p (or maybe better with reduced settings and/or resolution).

michaelangelo lee • 7 months ago

woOoAh! Hi Daniel, this discussion satisfies my level of understanding regarding graphics.
I have recently bought my CPU together with its monitor and seems it has a built-in GPU within.

1) motherboard H110m-d
2) i3-7100 dual core
3) monitor is HP V203p 19.5inch having a 1440x900 @ 60Hz
4) 4GB RAM (there still available slot for additional ram)

I planned to buy the jetstream 1060 vcard but i have a thought that it might be overkill for a low CPU i picked,
So i paid for a
"NVIDIA PALIT STORM GTX 1050ti 4gb 128bit" .

as of now, the GPU ordered still not in my hand.

I would like to hear your advice if this combinations can make my dota2 in high or even ultra setting.
I am not a techie person and also have a shallow understanding regarding gadgets.

Thanks in advance!

Daniel • 7 months ago

Yes, that should work well. A PC with an i3-7100 and a GTX 1050 Ti would be roughly comparable to the 'Modest' tier of our general build recommendation chart, which we would expect to be capable of over 90 FPS in Dota 2 at 900p with maximum settings.

michaelangelo lee • 7 months ago

Hi Daniel,

Good day!

I just got my 1050ti installed to my i3-7th gen 1440x900 monitor.
I used to set the quality to ultra having an all on/full option on video quality.

I only got a 30-60fps,
yah i could play ultra mode smoothly but somehow can feel that little delay on movement(like no dr on dota1)

I got 150-180 on med setting

and a 240 on low setting.

Is there a way to play ultra and fully eliminate that little delays in hero movement?(its not lag but can feel that delay compared to med setting).
What i mean is, is there a category which can be sacrificed(off/decreased) that is related to that delay?

Please need your suggestion.

Thanks once again!

michaelangelo lee • 7 months ago

Oh i just got a back-read on this blog... Ill try those indicated above, thanks!

Daniel • 8 months ago

well if u have time have to ask at you about some configuration still in use for play in our "team":
1)Intel q9300 (yes, i know :) ) at stock 2.5 ghz, 5 gb ram @ 800 mhz, gtx 760 2gb;
2)Fx 8350, 8gb ram, gtx 1060 6gb,ssd;
3) Intel g 3220, asus h81m-e, 8 gb ram, hdd, gtx 670 2gb phantom;
4)FX 6350, 10gb ram, gtx 760 2gb, ssd;

Most of problems come from the intel q9300, cannot mantain 50 stable fps (think "for sure, it's obvious") at 720p resolution.
It's fun to see how muh old hardware pc can go ahead, that's why i decide to write here to ask for any opionion u could give me.

Many thanks

Daniel • 8 months ago

We are happy to provide advice, but I would need to know specifically what you want advice about.

Are there plans to upgrade one or more of these systems, and you want to know how to go about that? Do you just want to know which of them is theoretically the best, or the worst, or the most balanced, or the least balanced? Do you have a budget in mind for upgrades, or for a new system for a team member, and want to know which parts to get with it?

Daniel • 8 months ago

I would like to ask you in wich tier they will be comparable and about balancing.
About upgrades, well are all system recycled from other, used parts not in use or something like that, so i don't have a lot of money to spend on them. Last updgrade i've done is a gtx 1060 6gb used for the fx 8320E, i know it willbe bottlenecked by cpu but come at a good price and should be ok for dota 2 and similar.
Await your precious tips!

Thank you very much for your time Daniel

Best regards

Daniel • 8 months ago

Alright, here are the tiers of our primary build recommendation chart that are closest in performance to each of the core components of the builds listed in your first comment:

1) CPU: (over 60% worse than) Destitute / GPU: Modest
2) CPU: Destitute / GPU: Very Good
3) CPU: (over 30% worse than) Destitute / GPU:Modest
4) CPU: Destitute / GPU: Modest

So all four of them are significantly imbalanced, with much better GPUs than CPUs. It's fair to say that any of those graphics cards should be capable of 60+ FPS in Dota 2 with maximum settings at 1080p, if they had balanced CPUs to support them.

In fact, any of those four builds is susceptible to a ~$250 upgrade (of CPU, motherboard, and RAM) that could provide enough performance to consistently get 90+ FPS in Dota 2 at max settings. All you would have to do is make use of the CPU, motherboard, and RAM from at least the 'Entry' tier of the linked build chart. There would still be imbalances, but they would be so minor as to be unnoticeable or even irrelevant (except for (2), where the GTX 1060 6GB may still be noticeably bottlenecked).

Daniel • 8 months ago

Ok, understand Daniele. So even the FX series cannot mantain 60+ fps during dota gameplay, or it can still match some results ?
Thank you very much again!

Daniel • 8 months ago

FX-series chips can theoertically hit 60+ FPS in Dota 2, but it would have to be below max settings (maybe even at minimum settings) and it would have to be below 1080p (i.e. 900p or 720p).

Daniel • 7 months ago

Ok, thank you very much Daniel, i will make some ingame tests and maybe i can let you know if anyone is interested in.
I saw some tests and benchmark in some youtube channel, maybe with FX still can handle the hurt of the new dota sourse engine 2 with some graphic option turned to off. Obiously, the q9300 still not be a nice idea to get ahead.
I did not find any cpu benchmark updated anywhere (2018 at least) so i cannot have an idea how these cpu can work in 2019.

CanadianLlama • 8 months ago

WOW thanks for all that, very well done!

David Diaz • 8 months ago

Hello I want to get a laptop to play Dota 2 on high or ultra settings , is this one good enough or I need a better graphic card

7th-Gen Intel Core i7-7700HQ processor, up to 3.8GHz (Boost clock)
Portable gaming performance with GTX 1050 4GB graphics
120Hz 15.6” Full HD Wideview display.
ASUS AURA 4-zone RGB Gaming Keyboard. Scar Edition design with kevlar pattern on palm rest.
128GB PCIEG3x4 NVME SSD OS Drive + 1TB FireCuda Hybrid Data Drive; 8GB DDR4 RAM
Comprehensive connectivity with 2x2 802.11ac, USB 3.1 Type-C, HDMI 1.4,

Daniel • 8 months ago

That one should be good enough. In particular, that laptop is roughly comparable to the 'Modest' tier of our general build recommendation chart, which we would expect to be capable of 90+ FPS in Dota 2 at 1080p with maximum in-game settings.

Julian Bayless • 10 months ago

Hello, I have a i3-4130 CPU,8 GB ram (2x4) ,a gt 730 GPU, my motherboard is a Memphis-S motherboard. I am looking for a new GPU because this one sucks, but Is there a GPU that would allow me to play Dota 2 on high settings w/ 60+ fps or am I going to to have to replace my processor and motherboard. Or Do you think i am better off just building a entry or modest computer? Also on a 24in. monitor.

Asiff Sabri • 10 months ago

Hey,i gotta buy new laptop which acer nitro 5
intel core i5 8300h
gtx 1050
1tb hdd
4gb single ram (upgradable up to 16gb)

will i get 60+ with ultra settings at 1080p?

thank you..

Daniel • 10 months ago

Yes! Those parts would make for a computer that is roughly comparable to the 'Entry' tier of our general build recommendation chart, which we would expect to be capable of staying consistently above 60 FPS in Dota 2 at 1080p with max settings.

ILS • 10 months ago

Hello there. I have this PC:
Fractal Design DEFINE S Black
Gigabyte Z370-HD3P
Samsung 850 EVO Series 250GB 2.5" Slim SATA 3
Intel Core i5-8400
be quiet! SYSTEM POWER B8 550W
Kingston 8GB 2133MHz DDR4 CL14 HyperX FURY Black
Nvidia GeForce 550Ti
LG27UD59-B 27'' Wide LED IPS

As you can imagine, this video card is super bad for this monitor. So can you please suggest several decent video cards which can play Dota2 at 4k@60hz. I am not going anything fancy, so I am not aiming at super high quality or 140FPS. Something more like 60-90FPS. I just want to use the monitor's specs (especially the 4k), just want to have fun, while not spending too much for it. Hope you understand me! And thanks in advance!

Daniel • 10 months ago

A balanced choice for the i5-8400 would be the GTX 1060 6GB or the RX 580. We would indeed expect your PC (with either of those graphics cards) to be capable of 60-90 FPS in Dota 2 at 4K.

ILS • 10 months ago

Thanks for the replay! Just yesterday I tried both Radeon HD 7900 and GTX 1060 6GB. 7900 is of course slower but was still capable of bringing up to 150FPS@4k without noticeable pain or anything else. 1060 is a monster and ran everything on full specs, which was to be expected. But I'll stick to the 7900 since it was free (from a friend), while the 1060 was given to me solely for the test. And it's pointless to pay $200 for a second-hand crypto-miner which is merely 10-20% better (for my needs ofc!). Maybe in 6-9 months I'll get some AMD because of the FreeSync. Oh, and a question - is FS THAT big a of deal? Is it THAT noticeable and so on? Thanks!

Daniel • 10 months ago

The FreeSync question is more-or-less subjective. In theory, if your PC is powerful enough to stay above the refresh rate of your monitor in all of the games that you want to play (at the settings you desire), then the benefit would be minimal. GSync and FreeSync are at their most helpful in situations where the FPS is variable and dips below the monitor's refresh rate occasionally. But some users utterly swear by the new tech regardless; I would recommend seeking dedicated videos and articles on that topic before making a final decision.

AcidWolf • 11 months ago

I am building a PC for Dota 2 playing and streaming. I want to know some Intel high setting(not ultra) build for 144hz 1080p monitor and streaming at 1080p60fps. The minimum and recommended Build. For the most part I won't be playing anything else but maybe once in a month or so fortnite or CS:Go.

Daniel • 11 months ago

Dota 2 is not a terribly difficult game to run, but consistently staying above 144 FPS can still be a challenge---particularly while also streaming the game. We would expect that you may be able to accomplish your goals while building as low as the 'Superb' tier of our general build recommendation chart, but the 'Excellent' tier or above would be a safer bet.

mark gaspay • 1 year ago

Hi sir Daniel! im planning to buy this laptop, how much do you think can i get fps for dota 2 for best looking settings.
Acer Nitro 5 AN515-42-R8HN 15.6-in FHD, IPS
AMD RYZEN 5 2500U/4GB/1TB/
4GB AMD Radeon RX 560X/Win10
Thank you!

Daniel • 1 year ago

It's difficult to say for certain, as that is a bit of an unbalanced machine; the R5 2500U is comparable to the G4560 in the 'Destitute' tier of our general build recommendation chart, while the RX 560X is comparable to the GTX 1050 in the 'Modest' tier of that same linked chart. As a result, that PC could get anywhere from 30 to 90 FPS in Dota 2 with max settings at that laptop's native resolution of 1080p.

Light SPEED! • 1 year ago

Does the Tier-FPS table tested in best settings or lowest settings?

Daniel • 1 year ago

The testing for the table is done at maximum/best in-game settings.

ScreamSilence • 1 year ago

Hello, this would land in superb tier right ? BTW, should I Dx11 OGL, or other? (i'm on DX11) wonder why this wasn't in the guide :9

i7-6700K @ 4.9Ghz 1.385V [bios] (1.4- 1.42 Actual) , PLL 0.8000 , LLC 6
GTX 1070 Asus Strix 8G (Not O8G) @ 2050Mhz, 4404Mhz vRAM
Water Cooled, EVGA CLC 280 68c avg 100% load
ASUS Maximus Viii Hero
DDR4 RAM16GB , 3200Mhz 15,15,36,1T/N @ 1.32V
HDD Seagate 1TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM 64MB Cache
SSD Samsung 850 EVO 250GB

trying to get 2560x1440 @ 120FPS seems to get only about 100-112 ;~; ( I was spectating not actually playing, idk if this makes a difference)

Daniel • 1 year ago

Yes, the performance of that list of parts is roughly comparable to the performance of the parts in the 'Superb' tier of our general build recommendation chart. We would not expect your choice of API to have anything other than a negligible effect on frame rates in Dota 2, so DX11 is fine as long as it is stable for you (no crashes).

Since you're so close to your 1440p FPS goal, have you considered trying to decrease some less-important in-game settings to some degree (perhaps according to our above recommendations)?

ScreamSilence • 1 year ago

yeah had no effect on it at all ;-; turns out it was simply because I was spectating.
Actual gameplay went into the 240+ FPS range XD and cause my Stream to turn into stutterS#!% lol!

Thanks for the response and the nice guide I've managed to help several viewers on my stream thanks to you guys :D
And yes of course I gave you the credit ^-^ <3

By the way from what I noticed on the vastly different machinesI was asked to comment on optimization, it seemed like pc's with Potato processors had very noticeable gains on DX11 c:

I am getting ready to start a stream i will respond with real tech specs instead of "potato" XD.
If the 17 or so people respond to my PMs that is.

Hopefully the info can get relayed to other's ^-^

Just a dude who likes to help, you may find me on Tom's Hardware if you're into overclocking ;)

Gustavo Vieira • 1 year ago

Hey Daniel, pls, qualify in the tiers this laptop pls:
CPU: Intel i7-7500
Video: Nvidia GeForce 940MX - 2GB GDDR5
Ram: 8GB (DDR4)
HD: 5400 rpm (1tb)


Daniel • 1 year ago

Hello, I also responded you via Twitter. But I'll put the response here as well:

That PC would have similar performance to the 'Poor' tier of our general build recommendation chart on our homepage, which we would expect to be capable of 30ish FPS in Dota 2 at 1080p.

Aomine Daiki • 1 year ago

Hey Daniel

I've been checking out this very informative site for years, just for fun (I like computer parts), but now I'm about to build a PC specifically for dota 2. I see that the entry tier can max out the game (all settings set to ultra, max render quality etc) at 1080p (60 fps) which is exactly what I want.

However, I've noticed that some great sites, such as anandtech, state that the ryzen5 2400g will not be able to max out games at 1080p (although they didn't mention dota 2), so I'm afraid that the entry tier can't truly max out THIS game.

I just want to max out the game (again, all settings set to ultra, max render quality etc) with minimum investment. I was thinking of g5400 with gtx1050, but the entry tier build is far cheaper than the former. Please help

Thanks for reading

Daniel • 1 year ago

While it's true that the R5 2400G can not max out some more recent and/or more demanding games, Dota 2 is an older, well-optimized, relatively-easy-to-run game that the R5 2400G should definitely be able to handle well. For more information on how it would perform in other titles, see our blog post comparing it to the R3 2200G and to a cheap CPU/GPU pair. The combo of the Pentium and the GTX 1050 that you've mentioned would get you slightly more reliable performance in Dota 2, but would be rather unbalanced (much more powerful GPU than CPU) and so may also underperform in some other games.

Aomine Daiki • 1 year ago

Interesting blog post, to say the least. And I am pleasantly surprised to see r5 2400g handling the witcher 3 (around 50fps, although low settings)

EDIT: AMD's overclocked Ryzen 5 2400G serves up 63.4 FPS at 1080p using medium-quality settings, yielding a smooth gaming experience. I read this from the following source

Source: https://www.tomshardware.co...

Hence the doubt.

Daniel • 1 year ago

Ah, well, Tom's Hardware is a very reliable resource, and I trust their benchmarks. So if they say the R5 2400G can't quite beat 60 FPS consistently in Dota 2 at 1080p with max settings, then I believe that they are correct and I was mistaken in my earlier comment. I know that the article above was originally made quite a while ago, so it's possible that the testing for our FPS chart was not done at absolute maximum settings (the majority of our more recent game article tests are done at max or nearly max settings, and say so explicitly near the charts; I notice now that this one does not say that).

Aomine Daiki • 1 year ago

Well, dota 2 is one of the most important e-sports with the second highest prize pool (apparently fortnite overtook it https://www.cnbc.com/2018/0..., so I'm looking forward to see updated hardware requirements for Dota 2.


Daniel • 1 year ago

All of our charts are kept regularly updated, and this one is no exception. It seems like we have just discovered here a small outlier in the Dota 2 chart (for 1080p to 4K in the 'Entry' row), likely resulting from the R5 2400G being such an amazing value proposition that it was added to the main chart despite not being quite as powerful as the previous version of the 'Entry' tier. But I have already corrected that row of the chart as a result of this comment chain, and those updates should go live later this week.

Meliodasofwrath23 • 1 year ago

CPU: Intel core i5 - 8400
Ram: 1x8gb DDR4 (2400MHz)
SSD: 128gb
HDD: 1tb 7200 RPM. Western Digital
POSSIBLE FPS in ULTRA Settings (1080p)

Daniel • 1 year ago

Those parts would make for a PC that is comparable to the 'Superb' tier of our general build recommendation chart, which we would expect to be capable of 85-100 FPS at max settings in Dota 2 at 1080p.

Bilal Shahid • 1 year ago

•AMD Dual-Core A9-9420 APU (3 GHz, up to 3.6 GHz, 1 MB cache) + AMD Radeon(TM) 530 Graphics (2GB dedicated memory)
•8 GB DDR4-1866 SDRAM (1 x 8 GB)
•1 TB 5400 rpm SATA
what category does this fall into in comparing to charts, is this good enough to run smooth dota 2.

Daniel • 1 year ago

So, the performance of that machine would fall roughly at the level of the 'Poor' tier of our general build recommendation chart (the A9-9420 is somewhat weaker than the G3930, but the Radeon 530 is somewhat more powerful than the HD 610). As Dota 2 is a relatively well-optimized and easy game to run, such a computer may be capable of running it at a playable frame rate at 720p or 1080p with minimum in-game settings. But we would not expect such a computer to be able to run Dota 2 at a playable frame rate with high in-game settings.

Chu Tuyền • 1 year ago

CPU: Intel Core i7 4790
RAM: 8,00GB Dual-Channel DDR3
VGA: GTX 1060 3GB (MSI gaming X)
Main: Gigabyte Z97-D3H-CF
air cooler
Please comment on this build, may i play in 2k monitor? How much fps i can reach? Thanks, sir ^_^

Daniel • 1 year ago

While it is a somewhat uncommon resolution, 2K is only slightly more demanding than 1080p (2K is much closer in overall pixel count to 1080p than to 1440p). The parts you've listed would perform somewhere in between the parts in the 'Good' and 'Very Good' tiers of our general build recommendation chart, which we would expect to be consistently capable of over 90 FPS in Dota 2 at 2K with max settings.

Kunal • 1 year ago

which processor is better amd or intel ,
does problem occurs with amd after some time
i need a pc for dota 2 mainly

Daniel • 1 year ago

While it is true that AMD had only low-tier and underwhelming CPUs for many years, this has changed immensely in the past year or two with AMD's release of CPUs using their Zen architecture. As a result, you will find both Intel and AMD CPUs interspersed throughout our general build recommendation chart, and we would not expect you to have any particular issues whatsoever with either. For Dota 2, you could get great performance while building from that same linked chart as low as the 'Entry' tier (with an Intel G4600) or the 'Modest' tier (with an AMD R3 1200).

Kunal • 1 year ago

Thanks Daniel . that was helpful.
can u tell which one should i buy in increasing order of performance;
r5 , r3 , i3 or i5

Daniel • 1 year ago

Just considering the most powerful example of each of those that is currently available, and only considering their ability in gaming applications, they would be ranked roughly as follows (from weakest to strongest): R3, i3, R5, i5.