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JL • 3 days ago

Does maya use the GPU or only CPU

Daniel • 3 days ago

Maya has hardware rendering and hardware acceleration technology, so it would benefit from the GPU as well as the CPU.

Raphael Matto • 1 month ago

Great article. I'm thinking of going with your high performance setup, except I get the following compatibility "notes" when I check the build on pcpartpicker.com:

The Scythe - FUMA Rev.B 79.0 CFM CPU Cooler may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit the MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard.

The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with a SATA 6.0 Gb/s port. When the M.2 slot is populated, one SATA 6.0 Gb/s port is disabled.

Is that true about the separately available mountain adapter? If so, how do I find that? & I don't understand the ramifications of the second note. Does that mean I can't add another hard drive? (I entered the build without the 3TB HDD).

Cheers,
Raphael

Daniel • 1 month ago

The Amazon page for the Scythe Fuma linked in the example build lists compatibility with the AM4 CPU socket in its description, and folks in the reviews and questions say specifically that it has the AM4 mounting bracket in the box (not as a separate acquisition). So it should work natively with the relevant motherboard.

As for the other tip, what it's saying is that installing an M.2 drive takes bandwidth away from one SATA port. Since the MSI X470 Gaming Plus motherboard has 6 SATA ports, this would still leave 5 available SATA ports for other drives or devices.

Imaobong Kennedy • 1 week ago

Hello,
Thank you for the comprehensive article you’ve written, as somebody who has no experience whatsover on building PC (Macbook air user for the past 5 years) it has been a great help in my research for tech parts.
I am looking to have a workstation desktop with a heavy emphasis on C4D, Photoshop and Illustrator, as well as video editing with Premiere Pro & After Effects. I will be mainly producing graphics and visuals, with animation as well, and will be looking to use Octane for rendering too.
Please what desktop build do you think would be best for this and i am also thinking of getting the Philips BDM4350UC 43" Brilliance Monitor, 4K . What do you advise?
Thank you

Daniel • 6 days ago

3D rendering is more demanding on a build than video editing or image editing, so I would recommend that you optimize for your modeling/rendering needs. With that and a 4K system in mind, I would recommend that (budget permitting) you build one of the two highest-tier example builds in the article above. (If budget is not permitting, then the 'high-perfomance' example build may still work well enough for the majority of your workload.)

Imaobong Kennedy • 5 days ago

Thank you for the reply, i appreciate.

Tammy Foster • 1 week ago

Working on picking up parts for the professional build you have listed and have one question.
If you could afford the price would you go with I9 over the I7 and if so would every thing else stay the same for the build.
Working with 3ds Max modeling and rendering also Revit For Arch design.

Tammy Foster • 1 week ago

Hey Thanks for the reply i did manage to get all the parts that you listed finally except the mother board is not going so good could you recommend one that will work with the parts in your list.
looking at the X299 TOMAHAWK

Daniel • 1 week ago

Yes, the X299 Tomahawk would work for your situation. In fact, any standard ATX size motherboard from a reputable mobo manufacturer (such as Asus, EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI, or Asrock) that lists itself as X299 and having Socket LGA 2066 will be compatible with the i7-7820X.

Daniel • 1 week ago

The answer to both of those questions depends entirely on which i9 you're looking at, as there are many i9 chips with differing specifications and motherboard needs.

JL • 2 weeks ago

How does the vega 64 compare to the 1080 in maya?

Daniel • 2 weeks ago

While I can't seem to locate consistent Maya benchmarks comparing those two, it is likely that they would differ in performance in that program proportional to their general performance difference---which is not much (the 1080 would likely be about 5% better).

harish k • 3 weeks ago

what will be good for laptops?

Daniel • 3 weeks ago

All of the information in the article transfers over to laptops as well. Or do you mean, which laptop do we recommend for 3D rendering? Because if that's what you're asking, I must inform you that, unfortunately, we no longer maintain any laptop recommendations. They proved to be too difficult to maintain. But if you narrow down your choices to 2-3 final laptops and let us know which they are, we can compare them for you to help you decide.

Dũng Trung • 1 month ago

why don't you suggest Quadro gpus.?? i think Quadro gpu specializes in redering

Daniel • 1 month ago

While Quadro cards are indeed specialized for compute tasks including rendering, they are much less versatile than consumer-grade GPUs and almost always feature much worse price-to-performance ratios; so we rarely recommend them.

Daniel Ottenjann • 1 month ago

Hi, first of all thank you very much for providing your experience to us
for free. At the moment, I am currently trying to build a pc for circa
1500€ or 1700$. The Software I am using is Blender, so what I need is a
high number of streamprocessing units. The nVidia Geforce GTX 1080
provides 2560 cores. The Radeon RX Vega 64 provides 4096 cores and in
the corresponding Benchmarks, for example by nVidia
https://code.blender.org/20..., you
can see that the Radeon RX Vega 64 is always a bit faster than the
nVidia Geforce GTX 1080 and sometimes even faster than the nVidia
Geforce GTX 1080 Ti. So here comes my question: Should I buy the Vega
instead of the GTX 1080? My problem is, I am a bit unsettled because
nearly everybody is saying "Buy a nVidia GPU because they are more
stable, more accurate and are delivering more power. But is that even
true today? So what do you say? Thank you in advance ;D

Daniel • 1 month ago

So, for your situation, it's actually a surprisingly close call. Blender should be capable of GPU rendering with either an Nvidia or an AMD graphics card, and the benchmarks vary from program to program. If it's down to a GTX 1080 or an RX Vega 64 for you, then I would personally recommend getting whichever one you are able to find at a lower price (although a GTX 1080 Ti is still going to outperform either of them).

Daniel Ottenjann • 1 month ago

Alright. Thank you very much for your quick and helpful response! Because on Mindfactory the Vega is a bit cheaper and there is at the moment no GTX 1080 by MSI, I think I will go for a Vega 64. Again, much thanks to you!

Sérgio Guilherme Filho • 1 month ago

Hi there! I'm currenly trying to build a PC for modeling and rendering in Maya 2018. I work on a MacPro 2013 and it's very good but I don't have how to work with nVidia Graphic Cards for GPU render on Arnold Render. I don't have limits for investments and I really want to get the best! I saw the new nVidia RTX5000, 6000, 8000 release on Siggraph 2018. Do you think it compensates the high investment? Will this RTX work on this "Forge of the Gods Build" motherboard? I really need a help to be successful on this new investment for my animation studio.

As I would like to buy it all in Amazon Store, is this the same motherboard you've suggested: https://www.amazon.com/PRIM...

And the cooler, is it the same: https://www.amazon.com/CORS...

Do I necessarily need the Storage 2 or it's optional? For what is it for?

The Forge of Gods Build is really the best actually? Would you please help? Thanks a lot.

Daniel • 1 month ago

While there is not enough benchmarking data available for the new Quadro RTX cards to say with absolute certainty that they are not worth their massive prices, it doesn't look good for them. The specifications being advertised for the new Quadro cards look like they have similar performance to the RTX 2080 Ti---but with more (in some cases, much more) VRAM. Under those circumstances, we would still recommend getting two RTX 2080 Ti cards instead. But the new cards are being explicitly marketed to animators, so my information may be incomplete for your particular situation. At any rate, if you decide to go with a new Quadro card, I can at least tell you that, yes, any of those new cards would be compatible with the motherboard in the 'Forge of the Gods' build.

Yes, the motherboard and Cooler you've linked are the correct ones from the 'Forge of the Gods' build.

And the second storage is optional. It's included in the build for "RAID-1 redundancy", which essentially just means for backing up your data and slightly speeding up access to the files.

In closing, you can rest assured that a 'Forge of the Gods' build would be one of the most powerful single rendering/animating computers that it is currently possible to obtain.

Sérgio Guilherme Filho • 1 month ago

Hi Daniel, thanks a lot for the enlightening answer. Your article is simply the best I've founded in all my searches on Google!!! I wish you all the best! Thanks! Thanks! Thanks!

Sérgio Guilherme Filho • 3 weeks ago

Hi Daniel, I've purchased Forge of Gods but when I started to build it unfortunately the Hydro Cooling Corsair Cw-9060032-ww H115i Pro Rgb Radiador 280mm is not compatible with ASUS Prime X399-A socket. I'll need to look for a new one. Do you have a suggestion?

Daniel • 3 weeks ago

So, the H115i Pro is compatible with the TR4 socket, but (as it says on its product page) it requires a sold-separately mounting bracket which is currently out-of-stock. We should have specified the need for the bracket in the article (I'll personally add it soon), and I apologize for the inconvenience. In the meantime, if you can not (or do not want to) wait for the bracket to be back in-stock, a comparable alternate cooler that claims to work in conjunction with the bracket provided in the Threadripper CPU's box would be the Fractal Design Celsius S24.

Тимур • 1 month ago

Hi there! I'm currenly trying to build PC for 3ds max for ~1500$. I saw build for 1250$ but i have to clarify some things:

1) CPU: should i stick with Intel or new Ryzen is good for 3ds max? I read some revies, that found that processors good at 3d graphics. What more important - higher GHz like i5 or more threads like i7 (HT)?
2) Graphics Card: Nvidia or ATI? Or it doesn't matter in this price category? Should i prefer latest 10xx series or previous 9xx fine too?
3) RAM: 16GB or more?

Sorry for the silly questions )

Daniel • 1 month ago

1) Ryzen is also good for 3D rendering work, but that's a difficult question. For 3D rendering, high clock speeds and high thread counts are beneficial. It would be easier to help with this question if you have a specific AMD chip and a specific Intel chip in mind, so we can compare them directly.

2) Currently, we still recommend Nvidia for a 3D rendering build. Their proprietary "CUDA" GPU rendering is (at least for now) more broadly supported and more powerful than AMD's supported "OpenCL" tech.

3) At your build level, 16GB should be enough. But if you find out that you need more later on, that's not a big deal. Adding more RAM to a system is one of the easiest upgrades to make.

JL • 1 month ago

Hello, I am going to get the High-Performance Build for using Maya and After Effects, will there be much difference if I get a SATA SSD? And will the new RTX Cores on the RTX Cards help to speed up rendering?

Daniel • 1 month ago

The SSD question is debatable. An M.2 SSD is much faster than a SATA drive could ever be, but the degree that the relevant speed increase will be noticeable (especially when compared to the very noticeable improvement of a SATA SSD over a SATA HDD) will differ from user to user, and from program to program. If you want a more technical answer, there are precise speed comparisons available in our recent blog post comparing data transfer rates on different devices and platforms.

And the RTX question has a similarly unsatisfying answer, which is: sort of. This is the answer for a few reasons. First, not enough testing has been done with the new technology to say for certain whether that is a meaningful factor. But second---and more importantly---the RTX cards are simply more powerful than the previous generation (they have higher per-core speeds, more processing cores, faster VRAM, and more VRAM). So situations where hardware acceleration or hardware rendering are available are sure to benefit from the new cards, but how that relates (if at all) to the new technology is unclear.

Finn • 1 month ago

Hello!
Thanks for your great article, the High-Performance Build ($2500) seems to be perfect for me.
I just wanted to ask wether this Build is still up-to-date or wether there are better parts out now for the same price.

Thank you

Daniel • 1 month ago

Yes, this guide's builds are still kept up-to-date! The most recent update to the builds in this article was done last week, in fact. (And you can always find the month of the most recent update near the top of each article.)

JL • 2 months ago

Hello, would the 32 core threadripper be better than the 18 core i9?

Daniel • 2 months ago

For streaming, video editing, and 3D rendering, yes, the TR 2990WX is going to be your best option. Purely for gaming, though, the i9 would be the winner.

Rakesh Kumar • 3 months ago

Thanks for sharing this great article. After reading this our Studio startup was able to boil to perfect system .. we didint opeted for DIY thus we approached to Ant-pc for the same:
--> Intel Core i9 7900x
---> MSI X299 SLI PLUS- 16GB
--> G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 2400MHz
---> PNY NVIDIA Quadro P1000 4GB DDR5
--> 250GB WD Blue 250 GB 2.5 SATA-
---> 2 TB Western Digital Blue HDD
---> Cooler Master V750W (I was more inclined for future proof higher rating PSU)
--> Cooler Master MB500
--> ML240L AIO liquid Cooler by CM
This machine is quite reliable and blazing fast.

Michaela Rinawi • 3 months ago

Hi there,
First: Thank you for researching and writing this article, I found it really helpful.
I also have a question though: I am going to buy a new PC for my rendering work and I was wandering if I should wait for the release of the NVDIA Geforce RTX graphics card.
Are you planning an update on your website describing an example pc build with these graphic cards soon?
Would it make sense to buy the rtx 2080 instead of the gtx 2080ti? (I would prefer wo wait for the rtx 2080ti, but it doesn't even have a release date yet and I definetely have to buy a PC no later than december)

Thank you for your help,
Michaela

Daniel • 3 months ago

Until the RTX cards reach retail availability in late-September/early-October, there will not be enough real-world benchmarks for us to add them to any of our resources. But you can rest assured that we will have content regarding how to build with them, and appropriately adding or not adding them to all of our resources, when that information becomes available.

Whether the possible performance difference relative to the possible price difference is worthwhile for your exact situation (to make waiting a couple of months for the new parts make sense) is something that only you can decide for yourself in the meantime.

BBreon • 3 months ago

Gosh, the more I went down to the pc builds list, the more excited I got.
I currently use a gaming laptop for 3d & rendering stuff and it's not quite fast enough, especially when working with particles and vray lol.

Semiconducted • 5 months ago

Great post and helpful advice!

One note of errata: The author refers to Blender as having “a steep learning curve”, however I believe they actually mean the opposite.

This being a highly technical post, a “a steep learning curve”, in its formal definition where the x axis is Time and y axis is Learning, means that it takes very little time to learn.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

Daniel • 5 months ago

Thanks for the kind comments about the article, and the input regarding that phrase!

In this context, the phrase is used in the way that is described on the wiki page you linked under the heading "in culture." This article is written with an audience of laypeople in mind, so the popular definition is used, wherein the x axis is still time, but the y axis is something like 'difficulty in mastering encountered features.'

Aleksandrs Breze • 6 months ago

Hey, just out of intrest. Why do you suggest the Intel i9-7980XE instead of TR1950x? Im building an overkill pc for gaming and rendering so i was hoping to understand what cpu choice would be better. Thanks!
P.S. your website is really great, it sure has helped a lot me and probably thousands of others.

Daniel • 6 months ago

Of those two options, the i9-7980XE has more cores and faster top speeds per core, performing about 10% better overall than the TR 1950X.

Ian Tay • 7 months ago

Hi! Used the forge of the gods build as the basis for my rendering gig, instead of 02 1080tis, i am running on 1080ti. However, i am encountering BSOD at least twice a week, is it something wrong that i am doing, or is there a setting i am suppose to tweak.

Daniel • 7 months ago

We are happy to help with this, but without more context, it would be practically impossible to diagnose this issue. What operating system are you using? What programs do you primarily use? What kind of work are you doing with those programs? Is there any chance there could be malware of any variety on your system? Do the crashes often coincide with some particular behavior or program on the computer? Is there a particular error message code that displays when the crashes occur?

Federico S • 9 months ago

Hi! Great work on the guide. Thanks for the info it's really helpful. Just one question, regarding the "Forge of the Gods Build" Why did you choose the GTX 1080 ti's instead of a quadro GPU? I can't decide if its worth it to go for a quadro 5000 card instead of a gtx 1080 ti zotac. Thanks

Daniel • 9 months ago

So, the example builds in this article prioritize being good at all possible related tasks to the workflow of an animator/renderer. Pro-grade cards like the Quadro series are specialized to only perform well at certain professional applications, including data science, high-color-fidelity graphic design, and, indeed, 3D rendering. The direct answer is that, if you're sure that your PC will only be used for rendering work, then a pro-grade card could indeed be an appropriate choice; but if your work and other intended uses for your PC involve numerous types of varied program tasks (such as video editing, audio editing, photo editing, and even gaming) then a consumer-grade card, with its jack-of-all-trades design and broader API support, is likely to be a better choice.

That said, even if you're sure you want to go with a professional-grade graphics card, we would not recommend pairing a Quadro 5000 with the Forge of the Gods Build. The Quadro 5000 is over 7 years old, and would represent a massive bottleneck on that system; for reference, a GTX 1080 Ti would perform roughly ten times better (in terms of power/speed). A more appropriate pairing for the 'Forge of the Gods' build from the pro-grade lineup would be a higher-end option from NVIDIA's Quadro P---- series.

Federico S • 9 months ago

Hi Daniel, thanks so much for taking the time to reply a detailed answer. Actually I meant the Quadro P5000 i didn't know there was a Quadro 5000 a few years back hehehe. I thought they were thr same but i was looking at the P5000. I use Rhinoceros V6 and i have a Gtx 1080 Strix and when im modeling in render view it gets a bit laggy. My cpu is I7-6700K with an Asus Maximus VIII Extreme. I guess the lag is because of my cpu. I will follow your guide and perhaps build the forge of the gods or the profesional rig. Anyway thanks again for the info!

Regards.
-Federico

Daniel • 9 months ago

If the hiccups in your workflow are during the modeling process in render view, I'm inclined to think that the bottleneck is the CPU (but I can't be absolutely sure). Since it's tough to say whether it's the GPU or CPU, however, I can see why it would be prudent to go for a full upgrade. That said, since you were already working with a GTX 1080 and it didn't seem to be cutting it, I might lean toward recommending a Titan Xp rather than a GTX 1080 Ti.