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Isabel Cooke • 2 weeks ago

Mr Corbyn did not 'host' that meeting. Do you people on 'Labour List' even know there's a Party out here, in the country, beavering away to revive long-fossilised wards and constituencies? Or are your own careers more important?
Read this, please, from Mike Cushman:

'Louise Ellman's complaint seems opportunistic and.cynical in view of this account from someone present at the 2010 meeting
"I was staggered tonight to see Louise Ellman MP telling Newsnight how shocked she was by hearing that Jeremy Corbyn had hosted a meeting on Holocaust Memorial Day in 2010 where a speaker compared Israeli and Nazi policies — staggered because she was actually present throughout that meeting!

I was there too, in that House of Commons committee room in 2010.

Nowhere tonight did Emily Maitlis or the Times reporter mention that the speaker, Hajo Meier, was a Holocaust survivor. The other speakers were survivors of Atlantic slavery, Native Americans, Bangladeshis, Roma and others who shared their experiences with the many Jewish survivors of genocide in the audience. (It was my own family’s experiences that drew me to the meeting).

As it happened Jeremy Corbyn had to leave the meeting after introducing it, to attend a debate in the House. Louise Ellman, by contrast, was present throughout the meeting.

She sat calmly by when the room was invaded by five members of the small but fanatical Zionist Federation, who proceeded to shout until no one else could be heard. I particularly recall their shouts of ‘Boring!’ whenever any other survivors were speaking. As an MP Ms Ellman could have called the Hous eof Commons security to evict the disruptors but she did nothing."

Smartboy • 2 weeks ago

Thank you for this clarification.

Deanl • 2 weeks ago

What is the source of this information?

Isabel Cooke • 2 weeks ago

Mike Cushman, posting on Facebook's 'Corbyn 50 years+ Supporters' Group'.

Deanl • 2 weeks ago

Thanks. Needs a bit more proof or other witnesses to corroborate that Ellman attended the meeting she is castigating Corbyn for attending.

Isabel Cooke • 2 weeks ago

Sure; you're right. We need triage!

Deanl • 2 weeks ago

Skwawkbox has broken a story about Ellman being at the event, from a letter to Tribune back in 2010. It showed that she was misrepresenting some of the facts in her interviews as she attended the event. Within minutes of breaking the story Skwawkbox are now suffering a suspected DDOS attack.

Fermi's Paradox • 2 weeks ago

Errr...the report clearly stated that Hajo Meyer was a Holocaust survivor..and JC has not denied that he chaired the meeting.

https://news.sky.com/story/...

Danny Burton • 2 weeks ago

I've just given that a quick read and the only person saying that the speaker was an holocaust survivor was Corbyn in his apology. Besides which Isabel is clearly talking about Newsnight, not Sky.

Fermi's Paradox • 2 weeks ago

You are clutching at straws,Sir. The report clearly includes the fact that the speaker was a Holocaust survivor.

Mr Corbyn was not introducing this as a new and previously unknown fact..he was repeating something already reported.

Danny Burton • 2 weeks ago

Apologies, you were correct and I was wrong.

Danny Burton • 2 weeks ago

In that I'll read it again.

Bill 1112 • 2 weeks ago

If he wasn't there and didn't do it and it all occurred in a faraway place long, long ago, just why is he apologising?

Danny Burton • 2 weeks ago

Do you ever read posts and the threads before replying?

Jambo25 • 2 weeks ago

Part of the title of the meeting was 'Auschwitz to Gaza' and it was held on Holocaust Memorial Day. Not a good look.

RS • 2 weeks ago

Channel 4 news today:

"hosted" and "chaired".

Labour empty chaired themselves and suggested a student front for the party.

That is leadership for you.

john • 2 weeks ago

I understand your point about Louise just sitting by fiddling her fingers as the Zionist orchestrated chaos was let rip on the crowd by...five people... not five fingers... you understand?

That was not the main event...

It was was suprising to learn that there were survivors of the Atlantic slave trade in attendance and speaking...the trade was outlawed from 1807 and slavery was abolished in 1833, so they must be at least 200 years old, which is pretty good going for any human bean! Can you give any names etc as I need to contact Guinness book of records for a quick amendment?

David Andrew Linney • 2 weeks ago

Jewish Holocaust survivor is smeared as antisemite. You couldn't make it up

John Deehan • 2 weeks ago

These “ moderates” make it up all the time. In fact professional propagandists are busily concocting some revelation as we have our afternoon tea. One Lynton Crosby is engaged in manufacturing a new set of “events”

JimmyBSands • 2 weeks ago

You just did.

David Andrew Linney • 2 weeks ago

Can you name the person I'm supposed to have done this to? I can name the person that MSM and people such as yourself are shamelessly calling a racist.

Mick • 2 weeks ago

He was evidently put there for some cloak of respectability so Corbyn's platform friends could go nuts with a clear conscience.

Fermi's Paradox • 2 weeks ago

It takes 8 years for an apology to emerge..and only then prompted by a newspaper report...

..I wonder why?

Smartboy • 2 weeks ago

Jeremy apologisedfor any anxiety caused to the Jewish community. He did NOT apologise for being there. If he had refused to attend the event in the House of Commons because a Jewish Holocaust survivor was speaking at it,that in my opinion would be a matter for concern/anxiety

Fermi's Paradox • 2 weeks ago

Quote from Mr Corbyn's statement...

" Jeremy Corbyn has apologised for appearing on platforms with people whose views he "completely rejects".

"In the past, in pursuit of justice for the Palestinian people and peace in Israel/Palestine, I have on occasion appeared on platforms with people whose views I completely reject."

...but don't let mere facts get in the way of your flawed defence.

RS • 2 weeks ago

He wasn't appearing. He was chairing.

Fermi's Paradox • 2 weeks ago

That's very funny.. you have managed to deny Jeremy's own words..

"In the past, in pursuit of justice for the Palestinian people and peace in Israel/Palestine, I have on occasion appeared on platforms with people whose views I completely reject."

..well done.

RS • 2 weeks ago

Jeremy is talking in vagaries, platitudes. On the night in question he was chairing.

James Martin • 2 weeks ago
RS • 2 weeks ago

At least where clear that Jeremy was HOSTING. Ellman was not even attending, the letter says she was observing. She isn't the one who should be apologising.

Isabel Cooke • 2 weeks ago

What I wonder is where the Tories' apologies are for all their racist councillors and leaflets etc. No-one seems to be bothered. I wonder why?

Bill 1112 • 2 weeks ago

Deflect, deflect, whataboutery...

Deanl • 2 weeks ago

Because back then no-one cared and it was an unremarkable event.

stewart • 2 weeks ago

Because back then no-one thought Dave Spart would be leader of the labour party

Fermi's Paradox • 2 weeks ago

Ah...so anti semitism was OK 8 years ago...right?

James Martin • 2 weeks ago

What antisemitism? What exactly was antisemitic about what a Jewish holocaust survivor said at that meeting?

Smartboy • 2 weeks ago

It is an absolute disgrace that because this Jewish man who experienced first hand the horrors of the Holocaust and witnessed the mass murder of other Jews is himself branded an anti semite because he opposes certain actions of Israel and compared them with his personal experiences under the Nazis.
If this mans criticism of Israel can result in him being vilified in this way what chance is there for the rest of us if we dare to speak out against Israeli breaches of international law such as the mass murder of people in Gaza in May.
People engaged in the attacks on this man should be ashamed.

Deanl • 2 weeks ago

The new working definition and examples were not even written back then, so no this was not classified as anti-semitism 8 years ago.

Fermi's Paradox • 2 weeks ago

Are you for real? Comparing the Israeli Government to Nazis was OK eight years ago because "the new working definition was not written back then"?

I've seen some pretty extraordinary excuses for wrongful behaviour in my time,but that takes the biscuit.

James kinsey • 2 weeks ago

That comment was made by a holocaust survivor. I'm sure he had far more insight on the subject than a disqus commentator called Fermi's Paradox....!

Fermi's Paradox • 2 weeks ago

What Hajo Meyer said is not the issue...it is Mr Corbyns chairing of the meeting and his 8 year wait to apologise that is the subject matter.

James Martin • 2 weeks ago

Hajo Meyer is exactly the issue, Corbyn has disgracefully apologised for a Jewish holocaust survivor expressing solidarity with Palestinians, he needs to get up off his knees and stop doing this and to stand in solidarity with Jewish anti-Zionists not with those that try and silence them.

Fermi's Paradox • 2 weeks ago

OK then...off you trot and tell Mr Corbyn that his apology is disgraceful...

..good luck with that...and please let us know what he said to you.

Smartboy • 2 weeks ago

A Jewish holocaust survivor compared his personal experiences under the Nazis to the actions of the Israeli government. Do you think he think he should have been silenced, maybe forcibly removed from the platform and ostracised as a disgusting racist and anti semite?

Deanl • 2 weeks ago

I am not offering an opinion on whether it should have been classed as anti-semitism but it was not specifically designated as anti-semitic back then because there was no working definition defining it as such.

Laura Lanardi • 2 weeks ago

So, using this logic, historic slavery then, wasn’t “racist”? Phew!
What are the student would-be statue-topplers on about then?

Deanl • 2 weeks ago

Slavery is a bit different than saying something that Jewish people find offensive.

Fermi's Paradox • 2 weeks ago

In my book you do not need a 'definition' to know what you are saying or doing is morally wrong.

Deanl • 2 weeks ago

Times have changed.

Nick • 2 weeks ago

So slavery was fine then.