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EV_Wisconsin • 1 month ago

Interesting. One of the great conveniences of EVs is the ability to warm up in the garage in the winter (central WI) without toxic exhaust fumes. I know not everyone has this option but it's almost universal where I live to have a garage and the ability to home charge.

Peace Man • 1 month ago

Not only in the garage. I don't have a garage, but it is far more enjoyable to step into a warm car.
It is great to prewarm the EV without spewing CARBON GARBAGE before my longer trips.

Randy Wester • 1 month ago

About 80% of our electriciy and 95% of our heat comes from burning natural gas.

So I suppose it's better to heat just the car.

Peace Man • 1 month ago

The other benefit to pre-heating the car is that the battery is warmed up also on very cold days, thus extending range a bit.

My electricity is 90% clean, and I just switched to primary heat pump use. My combi-boiler is still supplying tap hot water, and I hope to switch to "at location" electric water heating.

Randy Wester • 1 month ago

When plugged in and charging from 120 volt, preheating our Long Range Y will use about 5% of the battery.

We'll go electric for heat when there's new nuclear or hydro. For now, we usually get extreme cold, low or no wind power, overcast, and grid emergency all at the same time.

So we'll go 100% low temp hydronic, maybe with cogeneration, and keep the garage just warm enough to charge the cars (+5 Degees C)

Peace Man • 1 month ago

I have written elsewhere about using my Dryer outlet as a 24Amp charging facility via a AC Works switch plus 30A welding extension cords. Cost: under $600 .
Benefit: easy 12mph (20kmph) charging with 16A EVSE. With my new adjustable EVSE , I can get 24Amp (max for 32A outlet) or 20mph charging (~30kmph).

My outlet and cords barely warm up. I check occasionally with a temp guage.

Randy Wester • 1 month ago

My dryer and panel aren't close enough to the apartment parkimg lot to make that practical, but I'm sure it'd work for a lot of people.

I have a 50 KW DC charging and a J1772 within a 10 minute drive, so we jost plug on the 120 volt all the time and top up at the paid charger when needed.

No way • 1 month ago

It has been linked directly to Alzheimers and dementia in humans in Swedish studies as well also showing that the traffic in minor cities in Sweden is enough to cause this. Not only being a big city problem.

CroatiaTesla • 1 month ago

There is enough other studies that link pollution and health.

But, this one is presented here like final evidence which is not the case. author of this article, who was a teacher should be careful about such things. Those omissions are not advancing our knowledge and they are giving fuel to detractors. shame

fcfcfc • 1 month ago

Anytime I see info on Alzheimer’s, I get pissed off. About 20 years ago, give or take, A CURE for Alzheimer’s was in phase I testing human trials. My mom died from the disease. The cure had three doses and eliminated the disease. Full memory recovery, for the most part. The lead doctor was from Texas. I saw a whole documentary on it, a PBS station I believe. One of the enzymes in Mothers milk played a key role in its composition. The problem was that there was a 1 in 100 chance it would cause encephalitis in the patient (Brain swelling), with potential death.
SO, the cure trials were canceled and the doctor was persuaded to seek a treatment solution instead of a cure, and a Pharmaceutical company bought up his patents on a supposed failed cure. 20 years ago.... I know this because I was so pissed at the time, I went out on the USPTO website for about 2 hours with all the keywords fresh in my mind, and found all the details regarding the patent purchases.

I wonder how many people today, or any day, who were slipping into oblivion, had an offer of 99 in 100 chance of being totally cured as opposed to an horrible slightly longer away death, would say no.

We don't have cures today because there is WAY, WAY more profit in treatments. Profit over everything.
Screw those who have to die....

Martin H. • 1 month ago

Sadly I have to agree with you - it it all about profits, that would be why FF is still so much used, same reason why would a drug dealer or cartel want to give up all that $$$! (insert different drugs, legal, illegal etc as you need)

Steven F • 1 month ago

If I recall correctly several studies of different therapies has run into the brain swelling problem and it was much worse than 1% risk.

fcfcfc • 1 month ago

This one wasn't.

EgoPhobic • 1 month ago

So this seems to be a good reason to regulate brake dust which should force maximum regenerative braking except for emergencies, thus accelerating EVs and hybrids with bigger batteries than Toyota nano-hybrids.

Steven F • 1 month ago
healthy mice are being exposed to very fine particles of iron, magnetite, and diesel hydrocarbons.

Have they redone the test without the diesel hydrocarbons? If the particles still end up in the brain and still impact congnitve performance then Yes the particles are a problem. But if not then it is something else in diesel exhaust.

There are many many different types of hydrocarbons in exhaust and many of those could also cause damage to the brain. A few years ago I read that hydrogen cyanide emmisisiions from diesels is sometimes quite high. being an acidic gas it can damages lungs and the blood. It is also poison and could damage mary parts of the body.

Also keep in mind many years ago researchers found aluminum in patients. But later after a lot research it was found that aluminum was not the of the disease.

Jake R • 1 month ago

Right, the emissions from internal combustion engines go far beyond carbon. They also damage human health.

Randy Wester • 1 month ago

Yes, it seems that the many natural and artificial sources of actually Toxic Things get forgotten when all is Carbon.

Maybe its bad for the Real Estate business to make people aware that some places' pollution will shorten your life right now, not just in 2100?

M. Kessler • 1 month ago

EVs use regenerative braking and use much less brakepad material than and ICE vehicle.

Rob • 1 month ago

Yes. In time as driverless capability improves and connected vehicles become more widespread. The use of braking in EV's should become insignificant.

Randy Wester • 1 month ago

Nothing trains all drivers to spare the brake pads, like a half inch of black ice.

And after it's sanded, Tesla needs a driver-operated control to reduce regen so I don't have to use my $2,000 tires as friction pads.

Maybe a 'deep freeze' setting that's below 'Chill'.

This is one more stake in the heart of the vampire of Fossil Fuels. The more we know. Thanks for the very informative read.

Peace Man • 1 month ago

Thanks for spotlighting this issue.
There are so much problems with burning DINOSAUR JUICE that go beyond just the Climate Crisis that we are facing.

Randy Wester • 1 month ago

Ultimately there's a limit to how much oil we can extract for a particular level of effort in terms of holes drilled and pipe laid.

But getting enough electricity at the times we need it, is also becoming a challenge.