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Colt Swayze • 5 years ago

So the US is #1 in a survey written by the US and designed for US students?

Seems legit.

Steven Knudsen • 5 years ago

Along the same lines, I was unaware that the world of programming/CompSci comprises only 4 countries.

BTW, someone better tell Linus he's not top-ranked :-/

Alexander Kalinin • 5 years ago

Who approved the publication of this? The research is obviously rigged.
I am disappointed in the quality control of IEEE for the first time.

Sergius • 5 years ago

Are you lier Tekla? There are 6 847 Amarican's students, but only 678 China's students and 551Russian students who learning computers in USA Universtats and in MIT
To see google code jam, IOI.
stats.ioinformatics.org/res...

Andres Olivares • 5 years ago

A US test backed by a US curricula performed mostly to US students... suspicious to say the least :/

Emily Hill • 5 years ago

Having administered the major field test & used it to assess our CS program in the past, my only concern is that the ETS MFT in CS typically assesses graduate school readiness & theoretical preparation, and not the practical "skills" side of CS (i.e., programming) as the article claims. I believe it is very difficult to assess the skills side of CS in a multiple choice exam (skills like breaking down a problem into pseudo code & implementing an algorithm as a program, determining what parts of a function need to be parameters, debugging & testing a working program, etc.).

Of course as a software engineering educator, I may be biased. :-) It's super nice to see the impact we're having overall!

Steven Knudsen • 5 years ago

Well said.

I'd like to add another possible wrinkle. In 35+ years of work in computing, from enterprise to embedded, the only criteria I have for hiring are a) debugging/problem solving skills, b) curiosity, and c) being a team player. Computer Science and programming has changed multiple times over the course of the careers of my peers; take your pick, every aspect is so different than back when, and changes almost in line with Moore's Law in terms of time scale. So, I have to wonder how US students would fair, say, working in the EU, or Russia, or China, or India, where I would assume being a team player is different. Just wondering...

◉‿◉ • 5 years ago

From a Chinese friend who participated: "the translation was often inaccurate or misleading."