Sounds like the Bethlehem Bible College never read Matthew 1 because it lays out Jesus's geneology 1st thing and I didn't see Pali stain anywhere in that geneolgy.

Jesus was "a palestinian messenger " according to Abbas,

Jesus mother was Jewish making him a Jew.
Thus all Palestinian are Jews.

Pearls, and swine. Logic, truth and facts do not matter much anymore, these days.

Bin Salman King ] [ Almighty God, thinking of me, said: "Rm 9,15-18 For he says to Moses:" I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion "."
in fact, I have:
1. the fullness of royalty
2. the fullness of the prophecy e
3. the fullness of the priesthood:
how come it could not be given to any man in the whole history of mankind by God: I am Unius REI!

I don't think Palestinians were invented yet back then

If Jesus was a Palestinian then pigs can fly!

And pigs fly!

how, exactly? He sure hasn;'t done anything for you lately!

Christus Vincit, Christus Regnat, Christus Imperat..
only Dei JHWH holy be GLORIA!!
amen alleluia hallelujah

Jesus of Bethlehem is a well-defined and delimited historical figure:
we have more historical documents of his existence than of the existence of Napoleon!
his friends spoke of him: the torà, the prophets, the Apostles, etc.
spoke of him his enemy: Talmud and Romans ...
but, what can the Koran of Jesus say?
it is not reliable given that Muhammad only knew Aryan Christian heretics: 600 years later!

Where in the Torah?

I am not interested in anything the New Testament says. As for the Torah passages you list, there is nothing about Jesus except in the minds of Xians.

You are a very intolerant bigot.

You are an a- hole.

The NT is not side by side with the Torah. Judaism recognizes only the Torah. The NT will not be found in any synagogue. Neither will the Koran. If you find that hateful, that is your problem. And Judaism does not have any forbidden chapter. Now that you mention it, I guess all Jews are antichrist because we don't believe in him. We believe in ONE God.

Judaism does not consider the Torah the "old" testament; it is the ONLY testament. It does not deem the NT the fulfillment of it; it is its own fulfillment. I did in fact look up your references and like all Jews, did not see anything related to the NT. When you "looked at" what you call the Holy Biblical Scriptures, you were looking at Christian Holy Biblical Scriptures, not Jewish ones.

the synagogue of satan Marduk Morgan, Soros, Epstein, Clinton Bush, Biden, that rejected Jesus of Bethlehem now controls the NWO 666 FED 322 FMI 187 BM BCE: esoteric agenda Baal Owl allah: petrodollars: they are all lgbt Islamic satanists and Masons:
all the scum of: Rothschild of the antichrist ..
this is why the Jewish religion still borders on Satanism!

You need a psychiatrist.

PROVE IT

Meshugah

io noto che tu hai un problema con la onestà intellettuale.

THE LAMB OF GOD
Prophecy Fulfillment 308. The unworthy leaders of Israel
Za. 11: 4-6 Mt. 23: 1-4
309. Protection removed due to refusal
Za. 11: 4-6 Lu. 19: 41-44
310. Rejected in favor of another king
Za. 11: 4-6 Jn. 19: 13-15
311. Ministry addressed to the poor
Za. 11: 7 Mt. 9: 35-36
312. Disbelief leads to rejection
Za. 11: 8 Mt. 23: 13-36
313. Despised and detested
Za. 11: 8 Mt. 27:20
314. End of those who rejected Him
Za. 11: 9 Mt. 3: 10-11
315. Protection removed due to refusal
Za. 11: 10-11 ---- Lu. 19: 41-44
316. The Messiah would have been God
Za. 11: 10-11 Jn. 14: 7
317. Betrayed for 30 pieces of silver
Zaccaria. 11: 12-13 ---- Mt. 26: 14-15
318. Rejected
Za. 11: 12-13 Mt. 26: 14-15

319. Silver thrown into the house of the Lord
Za. 11: 12-13 ----
Mt 27: 3-5
320. The Messiah would have been God
Za. 11: 12-13 ----
Jn. 12:45
321. The Messiah would have been pierced
Za. 12:10 ----
Jn. 19: 34-37
322. The Messiah God and man
Za. 12:10
Jn. 10:30 + ---- Jn 10,30
323. The Messiah would have been rejected
Za. 12:10 ---- Jn. 1-11
324. he wanted to die for mankind
Za. 13: 7 ---- Jn. 18:11
325. A violent death
Za. 13: 7 Mt. 27:35
326. God and man
Za. 13: 7 Jn. 14: 9
327. Israel scattered for rejecting it
Za. 13: 7 Mt. 26: 31-56
328. A messenger prepared the way
Malachi. 3: 1 Mt. 11:10
329. Sudden appearance in the temple
Malachi. 3: 1 Mr. 11: 15-16
330. The Messenger of the New Covenant
Malachi. 3: 1 Lu. 4:43
331. The Precursor in the spirit of Elijah
Malachi. 4: 5 Mt. 3: 1-2
332. Many converts to justice
Malachi. 4: 6 Lu. 1: 16-17

of course, there are 332 Messianic prophecies in the Hebrew Bible:
that Jesus of Bethlehem realized in the Gospels
http://www fedele altervista org/profezie.html
this is the scientific proof that Jesus is true: and that his enemies are false!

Absurd

Only in the minds of Xians.

I'm not a sage or scholar, but I'll take a stab at that one: NOWHERE!!

yes, there are 332 Messianic prophecies in the Hebrew Bible:

that Jesus of Bethlehem realized

fedele altervista org/profezie

* would have arisen from the lineage of Abraham;
* would have arisen from the descendants of Isaac;
* would have arisen from the lineage of Jacob;
* would have descended from Judas;
* He would have been born in Bethlehem;
* He would have been born supernaturally from a Virgin;
* They would have been forced to flee to Egypt;
* he would have preached in Galilee and the Jordan;
* he would have been rejected by his own people;
* would have been sold for 30 silver coins,
* the 30 silver coins would have been thrown into the house of God,
* with those 30 silver coins they would have bought the potter's field.
* that his friend who betrayed him would hang himself.
* descendant of Isai, father of David, would have shown an unusual character;
* He would have triumphantly entered a donkey in Jerusalem.
* He would have been betrayed for thirty pieces of silver;
* It was predicted that that money would be bloody;
* He would have been accused by false witnesses;
* He would remain silent when they accused him during the show trial;
* That he would volunteer for the sins of mankind;
* That he would be crucified with common criminals;
* Davide specified that his hands and feet would be pierced;
* He would have been derided, insulted and abused by the people;
* That he would have been ashamed of nakedness;
* Which would have given him to drink gall and vinegar;
* That the side would have been pierced by a spear (Zechariah);
* That they would have cast his tunic;
* He would have been buried in the tomb of a rich man;
* David declared His resurrection after his death;
* David declared that he would ascend into heaven;
* That his message would reach the ends of the earth;
* etc ... etc .. other 320: for the statistics they show without doubt that Jesus is true god and true man: he was really the hope of Israel

Um, no. Feel free to quote your "New Testament" all you wish about Jesus, but the messiah of the Jewish Bible is yet to come.

HaMashiach is yet to return! However, a close and careful reading of the Tanakh, guided by HaRuach Kadosh, will show that Yeshua fulfils the prophecies for the first coming of HaMashiach. Isaiah 53 is a very important chapter for thins purpose - which is why it is no longer read in the synagogue!

i am HIM, your King

Verbum Dei gloria

two children about 20000 km away: they have the same experience of pre-death: "film true story:" paradise for real "
and the girl paints the face of Jesus that she saw in Heaven.
ok this is the true face of Jesus, I can also confirm it
https://encrypted-tbn0 gstatic com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcThnOSI85TOyPlp90hwCT3cpLIn9UXA3R4rfDM96P9mXg0efMWX&s

As long as she understands that Rome is the seat of Christianity, not any place in Israel.

more like where Satan dwells.

Palestinians....Well, they are like Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, and Democrats that tell the Truth...
They don't exist....
Yes, Jesus, was indeed a Jew and a Rabbi.

WELL SAID!!!

This is another sample of outrageous illiteracy, stupidity and profanity of Andropov invented palestinian nation reps and their anti semitic advocate.
After destroying last Jewish revolt against Roman colonizers, Rom Senate decided to remove all Jews from Israel and call this land a Palestine.
By the way, in Golda Meir passport upon her arrival it was shown nationality- Palestinian.
I understand proudness of some Arabs calling themself "Palestinians" in honor of such freedom fighters

There were also two disciples of Jesus named Judah. They were all "palestinian" Judahs. Right?

There were no Arabs living in Israel either. They were all in Arabia, which they didn't leave until after Mohammed died in 632. The non-Jews in Israel 2,000 years ago were pagan Romans and Greek descendants, Samaritans and Nabateans. @BBobInBpt , the Bar Kocba Revolt, after which Emperor Hadrian renamed Judea Palestina, was in 132 CE. Palestina was named after the Philistines - whose name means invaders, and who were wiped out by Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar nearly 750 years before, in 609 BCE.

All the "fakes-tinians" agenda is to erase the History of THE JEWS PEOPLE AS THE TRULY LAND LORDS OF JUDEA AND SAMARIA. IS RIDICULOS BECAUSE THEY DON'T TRICK ANY BODY IN THE CHRISTIAN AND JEWS WORLD, BUT IN THE CONTAMINED U.N.

There was no such thing as a "Palestinian" in Jesus' Day ! The province was called JUDEA ! Jesus was clearly a Judean Jew and not an Arab Palestinian ! The term "Palestine" wasn't used until after the Third Revolt of the Jews against the Romans, some time after 70 AD !!!

Sorry, Yeshua was not a Judean but a Galileean. The birth story was a myth as was the custom to write in those days. A miraculous birth story, just as Caesar was born after his mother underwent the first Caesarean operation. Had she been the first, she would have died, but she lived to see her son grow up to be a great soldier. Yeshua was born to Miriam in Nazareth and Yoseph was his father.

Furthermore, the whole idea of people having to travel back to their place of birth in order to be counted in a census is ridiculous. Can you imagine the chaos with abandoned homes, married couples going to different places, leaving their children, and of course there would be not enough inns to accommodate all those people. Not to mention women in their ninth month of pregnancy riding camels. And I read somewhere that there weren't camels in that region at that time anyway.

Census: the husband was the head of the household, and his wife went to the town of his birth. This was because the records of his family would have been there.
Inns: yes, accommodation was difficult to find - which is why Mary and Joseph ended up in the "animal quarters", on the ground floor. (The traditional English-language "stable" is due to a lack of understanding, and limited MSS, by the translators of the AV).
Camels: Mary rode on a donkey. If camels were involved, it was those ridden by the Magi - about two years after the birth.
Hope this helps to bring some clarification.

I stand corrected re: donkey vs camel, but if you know anything about very pregnant women you wouldn't believe for a second that any would travel a long distance on a donkey. You can believe the census story if you want, but it is illogical in every respect and there is no historical evidence to support it.

I made the mistake of submitting this with the included URL in full. I am resubmitting with the address 'split up'. Please close up all of the internal spaces!

As a married man, whose wife has borne children, I do know a little about pregnancy - even if not as much as your name would suggest you might know. Having also completed a course on basic obstetrics, has also helped me.

However, one must really deal with the historical narrative, and not with the traditions that have been built upon it by men - particularly in nativity plays and songs! That record states, quite simply: "And Joseph also went up from Galilee, from the city of Nazareth, to Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David, to be enrolled with Mary, his betrothed, who was with child. And while they were there, the time came for her to be delivered. And she gave birth to her first-born Son and wrapped Him in swaddling cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no place for them in the inn." (Luke 2:4-7). Remember that Luke was a medical doctor and, therefore, an educated man; and that he states, clearly, that he has based his record on eye-witness reports and careful research (see Lk.1:1-4).

So, going by the record, there is no statement that Mary was in the latter stages of her pregnancy; there is no mention of a donkey (although that is the most likely form of transport that she would have used); and there is not even a stable in the middle of a field! The magi, of course, don't appear for another two years, so were certainly not there at the same time as the shepherds! Of course, the "father of lies" does all that he can in his attempte to thwart the plan of HaShem!
Regarding the census, I respectfully refer you to htt ps:// cross examined. org/really-census- time -caesar-augustus /
to save me a lot of time typing!

There is no book that has been scrutinised, criticised, and dissected as much as the Bible - both the Tanakh and the Brit Chadashah - but that is being constantly confirmed by external sources. Approach either/both with an open mind - and allow Ruach HaKodesh to speak to you through it.

Shalom - and Happy Hanukkah (and I hope this is published, this time!).