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Albert Reingewirtz • 4 years ago

I will never ever forgive the Nazis and their allies. It's impossible like saying it was OK to kill my parents at the age of 40 and me at the age of 7 left alone, an orphane surviving by luck and the courage of strangers to hide me. She was insane! Probably worried about the Poor "Palestinians" under the Israeli "occupation too. I would not be surprised.

dante benedetti • 4 years ago

I understand your feelings. You have my respect and my sympathy. I wish you the best. But, having been tortured by the Germans & their collaborators, as Eva was, she is entitled to some indulgence. It's not a good idea to be harsh to someone who survived the horrors of the Shoah. And, I doubt that there is any human that could have endured what she endured and could have emerged whole. She was able, with Heaven's help, to put together a life, to be productive, constructive, to contribute. It's an amazing accomplishment. And, you, with the losses inflicted upon you, the fact that you have made a life for yourself is a great achievement, one worthy of profound admiration.

lewjac3 • 4 years ago

I agree that she has the right to deal with what the Germans and their allies did to her BUT, I will never

forgive or forget. May she rest in peace.

Photobug55 • 4 years ago

If Kor wants to forgive Nazis for crimes committed against her, that is her business. But I do agree she has no right to speak for your parents or your family, just has she has no right to speak for those uncles, aunts, and cousins of my family who perished, or my grandparents and parents who were forced from their homes and what they built for their families.

But I do know she was an active witness to Nazi crimes at a time when we are losing witnesses daily.

Albert Reingewirtz • 4 years ago

One explanation possible is the Stockholm syndrome. There are now psychological re[ports about survivors today tht have affected brains by what they survived. I can't be mad at her at all, just object to the non- sense.

Photobug55 • 4 years ago

I don't see how the Stockholm syndrome applies. Kor is not identifying with the Nazis.

Anyway, if she feels that it is the only way to get on with her life, that is her business. Most survivors and refugees I have known, including the entire older generation of my family, managed to get on with their lives without forgiving the Nazis. They don't hold a grudge against the generations which followed, but they have not forgiven those who actually took part in the killings.

Albert Reingewirtz • 4 years ago

How can this be published naiseating survivors to their bones. The left never rest

Photobug55 • 4 years ago

I don't see anything here identifying Kor with the left, right or center. No other Jew I know has forgiven the Nazis, and that includes liberals, conservatives, and moderates. Not everything is about left versus right,
Kor is one individual.

Albert Reingewirtz • 4 years ago

Exactly! I ment those who publish that story. On the other hand I am suspicious it resemble too much to the famous Christian thing of offering the other cheek. Forgive and love your enemy kind of thing? I think it is Catholic teaching. What do you think?

Photobug55 • 4 years ago

Now you're getting into a philosophical discussion which will require more room than what we have here. I will just say I will not criticize Kor, because forgiving those who harmed her is her business. Besides I don't feel I have the right to attack a survivor on how they choose to deal with the past. After all, I didn't experience the camps myself. I only say she does not have the right to forgive on behalf of others, and let it go at that.

As for publishing the story, regardless of what she thought and did, Kor is a well known individual, so despite what she says and does, it is a valid news story.

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Albert Reingewirtz • 4 years ago

In what church will her funeral take place? She can't possibly having remain Jewish presenting her other cheek like she did forgiving the Nazi's slaughter of her parents and 6,000,000 other Jews.

evangeline golding • 4 years ago

Although I absolutely cannot understand or agree with her stance on forgiving nazi filth, there is no denying that she was a strong, good-hearted, determined lady, who contributed an enormous amount to education about the Shoah, and to ensuring that its victims will not be forgotten.
May her memory be a blessing.

Hippy • 4 years ago

Forgiveness can be a difficult thing to understand and, therefore, do. It is NOT extending a pardon to the perpetrator, which so many people think. It is a way for the victim to be released from the power of that perpetrator, something Eva knew and succeeded in doing. It's the ability to not develop bitterness, which can destroy life and health, exactly what the perpetrator intended.
It is wrong to condemn her for setting herself free from her horrific past and living the life she chose. May more people follow her example.

Mark Strazynski • 4 years ago

She had no right to forgive the Nazis in the name of the Jewish people, only in her own name. She had no rights to forgive in the name of 6,000,000 innocents, including my sister and 3 brothers.

Ana Eli • 4 years ago

I completely agree with you, Mark Strazynski !!

Mark Strazynski • 4 years ago

Thank you.

Ana Eli • 4 years ago

There is nothing more natural, Mark... How could anyone who is fair to be opposed to what you told ? Unfortunately, there are people really not fair at all... And that makes me really scared.

The simple fact we are talking about to forgive to the nazis today, when the last direct witnesses of the Shoah are dying is an immense nightmare and a new crime against those who died, killed by the nazis, those who suffered deep into their flesh, those who lost their family, lovers and friends ! Talking about to forget is sending them back to death for twice ! That is a shame for the Human kind to tell such horrible things than forgiveness to the nazis !

Casper van Cleeveld • 4 years ago

May her memory be a blessing. 🙏

Ana Eli • 4 years ago

We'll never forget and never forgive...

The nazis actions were definitely unforgetable and unforgivable !

Shame on those who tell we must forgive them ! We'll never !

Many people were very nice to the nazis : Some Churches were, South America was, some arab countries in the Middle-East were, even the US were (Operation Overcraft)...

Nazis received many help from everywhere while they committed their unbearable and unspeakable crimes Vatican (Pi XII), France (PĂ©tain), from Italy (Mussolini and his fascist milicias), from Poland, from Austria, even from England (Great Britain knew about those crimes 2 years before to intervene ! But they did nothing !), from Vatican, from the arab mouvement in Palestine (led by Amin al-'Husseini, a close friend to Hitler and to Himmler, an adept of the antisemitic nazis goals, etc...

And after the war : they received help from some christian organizations, some associations like the Stille Hilfe, The International Red Cross, some Arab countries (Egypt, Syria, Iraq,..., where they have been hid, changed their name and got very strategic official positions), even from the Allies : there have been Commissions of leniency to easing the sentences of Nazis convicted by the Nuremberg court...

I really don't know why so many people have been so kind to them... Maybe because they secretly shared their dreams...

So I really don't know why people even ask us, their victims, to be kind to them...

Did the nazis bring back to life the 6 millions of us ?
Have they erase and cancel the pain and our fears they inflicted us ?

No. They did not.

We'll never make peace with the nazis ! You read me ? NEVER !

The nazis were not the little child who stole our sweets in the nursery school... I think you do not realize what and how they were !

What do you think they were ? A simply bad joke ?

I feel outraged by the sympathy of so much people for the nazis !

This has to stop ! And to stop NOW !

Antisemitism is rising again today into the world. It show its ugly face.

Today, in Europe, in the US, in Israel, in South America, people are murdered again because they are Jews ! Iran want to make a nuclear holocaust against us...

And you ask us to forgive to the nazis ???? Why ? To be assassinated once more ???? To be killed silently, with no cries and screams which could disturb your consciousness ????

SHAME ON YOU !!!

It is time to decide : who you are really friends with ? The nazis or their victims ? You cannot be both !

NEVER ! We told "Never again" and we meant it ! And you... Didn't you meant it ?!

It's time to keep your promise !

paypal.me/lorenzoJHWH • 4 years ago

that of Bahrain, as long as sharia exists it can only be monkeys playing a criminal role! indeed, if there is sharia? terrorism cannot be stopped all over the world !
quella del Bahrain, finche esiste la sharia può essere soltanto delle scimmie che giocano un ruolo criminale! infatti, se c'é la sharia? non può essere fermato il terrorismo in tutto il mondo!
The Palestinian War on Businessmen
By boycotting the conference in Bahrain, in fact, Palestinian leaders had already sent a message to the world that they would rather see their people continue to suffer economic hardship than receive billions of dollars in aid.... Rather than spitting in the faces of businessmen, Palestinian leaders should be working closely with Israel and the US and any other party that wants to help the Palestinian people.

paypal.me/lorenzoJHWH • 4 years ago

"homosexuality, is in itself an intrinsic moral disorder!" Pope Benedict XVI. in fact, it is the statistics that justify this statement. lgbt represent a serious social disturbance: with their satanic theosophy of gender: a total schizophrenia absolute from the scientific point of view.
Sexual harassment of refugees, convicted Norwegian politician
07/04/2019
The Tromsø court found guilty the former governor of the province of the same name and former Norwegian fisheries minister Svein Ludwigsen of abuse of office and sexual harassment against three young refugees, reports NRK Television and Radio.

"omosessualità, è di per se stessa un intriseco disordine morale!" Papa Benedetto XVI. infatti, sono le statistiche danno ragione a questa affermazione. gli lgbt rappresentano una grave turbativa sociale: con la loro teosofia satanica del gender: una totale schizofrenia assoluta dal punto di vista scientifico.
Molestie sessuali ai rifugiati, politico norvegese condannato
04.07.2019
Il tribunale di Tromsø ha dichiarato colpevole l'ex governatore della provincia omonima ed ex ministro della pesca norvegese Svein Ludwigsen di abuso di ufficio e molestie sessuali contro tre giovani rifugiati, riporta NRK Television and Radio.

Ana Eli • 4 years ago

Shame on you for your BS words

paypal.me/lorenzoJHWH • 4 years ago

BS words, ie, bags & shoes?
or: "BS words", like ie, lgbt 'British 666 Standard'?
however, it will not be possible for you to prove your slander!
but all the gays who died of HIV and were involved in criminal events? they can statitically prove it

bags & shoes ?
or lgbt 'British Standard'?
in ogni modo, non sarĂ  una operazione possibile per te quella di dimostrare le tue calunnie!
però tutti i Gay che sono morti di HIV e che sono stati coinvolti in eventi criminali? loro lo possono statiticamente dimostrare

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AVIGAIL • 4 years ago

Forgiveness is not only about insuring your own psychological benefit , to be released of bitterness.
Forgiveness is a re-establishment of the relationship between two parties as if the original offense had not happened.
The offender will pay the consequences ( like David did) and will commit to turning away (repent) from the sin he committed.(Go and sin no more) This is at a divine level.
At an individual level, the victim has total liberty to forgive (return to the previous relationship)
or not to forgive and sever all ties.
G-d Himself says He will have compassion on whomever He wants to have compassion so we have the same liberty of choice.
At a personal level Eva decided to forgive.It's a choice and an ability.
Moshe forgave the rebellious people on a regular basis. He even preferred to be wiped off the Book of Life in favor of the people who did nothing but offend him and their own G-d.

dante benedetti • 4 years ago

Eva a"h said many inspiring things. offering forgiveness for people who are unrepentant is not one of them. &, if Eva responded to some urge to forgive those who had savagely attacked her, she could do that. She had no right to extend forgiveness to those who attacked, killed, raped, robbed, tortured others.

paypal.me/lorenzoJHWH • 4 years ago

tabaccaio l’avete ucciso voi Pd Ong guerraimfnucleare blogspot com/2019/07/tabaccaio-lavete-ucciso-voi-pd-ong

paypal.me/lorenzoJHWH • 4 years ago

Haftar against Salvini: "Forcing Italy to open ports"
so Turkey France Qatar and the USA are threatening our homeland!

Haftar contro Salvini: “Costringere l’Italia ad aprire i porti”
quindi Tuchia Francia Qatar ed USA stanno minacciando la nostra Patria!

paypal.me/lorenzoJHWH • 4 years ago

You have killed the tobacconist, you smugglers in hours of the NGOs voxnews info/2019/07/05/il-tabaccaio-lavete-ucciso-voi-scafisti-a-ore-delle-ong/
the Democratic Party has ferried thugs: unemployed and Nigerian magic: prostitution and drugs: which kill a man with a single punch: for trivial reasons!
Ulderico Esposito died after a month of agony, while the mayor of Naples, the 'clandestine' De Magistris, inaugurated the Universiade among the boos:

paypal.me/lorenzoJHWH • 4 years ago

he is a sharia macete: Sorry for the trouble! ACS-Italy @acs_italia
Another priest died in #Africa. Father Paul Mbon was killed with a machete the night between 28 and 29 June near the parish of Sembé, diocese of Ouesso, in the Democratic Republic of the #Congo. Sorry for the inconvenience! #mediterranea # 5luglio #CercandoFoto

è un macete sharia: Scusate il disturbo! ACS-Italia @acs_italia
Un altro sacerdote è morto in #Africa. Padre Paul Mbon, è stato ucciso a colpi di machete la notte tra il 28 e 29 giugno nei pressi della parrocchia di Sembé, diocesi di Ouesso, nella Repubblica democratica del #Congo. Scusate il disturbo! #mediterranea #5luglio #CercandoFoto

paypal.me/lorenzoJHWH • 4 years ago

Lorenzojhwh HumanumGenus after
all, what is needed in the EU (technocratic parasitic and financial
bureaucracy) is only to be a rothschild-Bilderberg parrotOn 2 July,
German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen was appointed president of
the European Commission“Or they wanted to get rid of her because a
competent figure could reconstitute the Bundeswehr. Or the office of
President of the European Commission does not have much value given that
they have decided to put an inability to do so ".

dopotutto
quello che è necessario nella UE (tecnocratica parassitria e
finanziaria burocratica) è soltanto quello di essere un pappagallo
rothschild-Bilderberg
l 2 luglio la ministra tedesca della Difesa Ursula von der Leyen è stata nominata presidente della Commissione europea
“O
volevano disfarsi di lei perché una figura invece competente potesse
ricostituire la Bundeswehr. Oppure la carica di presidente della
Commissione europea non ha molto valore dato che hanno deciso di
mettervi un’incapace”.

paypal.me/lorenzoJHWH • 4 years ago

Justice, #Anm: "Reform that aligns togas is outside the constitution wanted by rothschild and Bilderberg" The president of the Anm, Luca Poniz, said about the justice reform evoked by the Interior Minister, Matteo Salvini, in fact this Constitution was made by the majority of the Democratic Party Soros Satan Dracula Sodoma

Giustizia, #Anm: "Riforma che allinea toghe è fuori da Costituzione voluta da rothschild e Bilderberg"
Lo ha detto il presidente della Anm, Luca Poniz, sulla riforma della giustizia evocata dal ministro dell'Interno, Matteo Salvini,
infatti questa Costituzione l'ha fatta la maggioranza del Partito Democratico Soros Satana Dracula Sodoma

Ana Eli • 4 years ago

You talk about names you don't know sh*t about... You don't who Rothschild was, how good he was, and you don't know what Bilderberg is... You probably think it is a Jewish man, because the name ends by "berg" (you are the kind of man who believe that "iceberg" is a Jewish man), and (what is more ugly from you) maybe because it is about money !

Actually Bilderberg is a group (the Bilderberg group), and there is no Jew inside.

Note that names with "berg", "man", baĂĽm", "stein", etc... at the end are not jewish. Jews took them to hid from the persecutions in Europe, but those names are not jewish, on the start.

paypal.me/lorenzoJHWH • 4 years ago

this is remarkable: "even satan has a language" Ana Eli "to be able to speak" however this is an event to be celebrated,
you who are a baby sitter, do you want to teach something (useless) to me that I am a 60 year old Italian teacher, from high school?
corruption arises from bank seigniorage, and the synagogue of satan brought it to the world in an institutional way: the Masons have spread it, so today we have a world-wide Masonic consociativism where leaders will almost never pay for their crimes against the people!

questo è notevole: "anche satana ha una lingua "Ana Eli" per poter parlare" comunque questo è un evento da dover essere festeggiato,
tu che sei una maestrina, vuoi insegnare qualcosa (di inutile) a me che sono un docente italiano di 60anni, di scuola superiore?
la corruzione nasce dal signoraggio bancario, e la sinagoga di satana la ha portata nel mondo in modo istituzionale: i massoni la hanno diffusa, quindi oggi abbiamo un consociativismo massonico mafioso mondiale dove i leader non pagheranno quasi mai per i loro delitti contro il popolo!