If the American democrat Jews have any say in it ,you not only won't get help THEY will help the muslims totally destroy Israel ! Just like they are helping the socialists/communist destroy America ! If you can't see THAT YOU AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION !

Beyond your bigotry and ignorance, you are totally inaccurate! There are many Democrat Jews, this one included, who love their Homeland and hate communism! What you're doing is behaving and thinking like the "old broad" you claim to be.

So why do you stay in the democratic party where you have to "KISS" OMAR, THE MUSLIM JEWISH HATER AND TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER?

If you love your homeland , what are you doing here ?

he be to traitors CIA Deep State

WELL SAID!!!

Agree old b. Read my comment!

This charade must stop. The British illegally made the first two-state delusion when they ripped off 78% of the land meant for the Jews and created Jordan. The second two-state delusion was also illegally and stupidly created when the fools, then "leading" Israel, created the terrorist state of Hamas/Gaza. Those worked out really well for Israel, didn't they! Predictably NO! Now the fools are going to acquiesce to ceding large amounts of the tiny State of Israel:
1) land stained with innocent Jewish blood by the very sworn existential enemy vermin that are to be "rewarded" for their attempts to massacre the entire Jewish population,
2) and whose Koran advocates taqiyya and kitman, rendering any deal they might make worthless,
3) and who openly state that any deal with Israel would be used as a stepping stone to destroy the Jewish State entirely and massacre all of its Jewish inhabitants;
4) a mindset which has not changed one iota despite multiple attempts to make peace (some of them quite generously stupid and with no chance of working on Israel's part);
5) every foolish concession Israel attempted habituated a world to expect Israel to concede more, and with every new concession Israel was made to labor and bear the consequences (i.e. the insanely suicidal Oslo agreement made the notion that the enemy Palis deserved a state and indeed allowed the Jew-hating world to expect and pressure Israel to fulfill such insanity),
5) and, so, instead of definitively defeating a determined existential enemy, forcing him to give up all hope of achieving his evil goals, Israel pursued the course of "negotiating" away its own land, allowing the enemy to fight another day and an ongoing WAR to sizzle on, paying the price with its own innocent Jewish blood.
6) Over the years the insane possibility of the two-state delusion was diminished and the world was becoming inured that permit of another state within Israel, and the notion that the enemy DESERVED Jewish land would no longer be considered by the Jewish State. That was a very good thing.
7) And so what are we considering to do? The sane and logical thing would be to annex all of Israel and, as necessary, finally definitively destroy the enemy's ability to fight ever again.
8) Instead, we are considering re-introducing the same old formula of land for peace, falsely legitimizing the enemy's claims on Israel; a formula that could ONLY have detrimental effects on the Jewish State for years to come and would be responsible for more misery and spilled innocent Jewish blood; a document that cannot work to bring peace any better than those similar attempts before.

Are we out of our minds?

.. when in doubt ... read the Torah..

(Genesis 13:14 – 18) .. “And the Lord said to Abram, after Lot had parted from him, “Raise your eyes and look from where you are, the north and south. To the east and west, for I give all the land that you see to you and your offspring forever. I will make your offspring as the dust of the earth, so that if one can count the dust of the earth. Then your offspring too can be counted. Up, walk about the land, through its length and its breadth, for I give it to you.” And Abram moved his tent, and came to dwell at the terebinths of Mamre, which are in Hebron; and he built an altar there to the Lord. "

God never spoke, or if he 'did' he lost his tongue since.

Abraham was a Bedouin seeking fertile land he migrate from Ur, Iraq, Mesopotamia, a caravan with herds of sheep and goats.
When Jerusalem fell to David, at beginning of 10th cent.B.C., it was already considered holly;
'Melchizedek was the priest of the most high God' in Jerusalem (referred to as Salem in Genesis) long before the conquest.

The history of Jerusalem goes back to the Old Stone Age and the earliest signs of human activity are of the Pleistocene period. Salem means peace in Arabic, Shalom in Hebrew.. not Shalem.

..the origins of Avraham are Africa .. Africa is Africa ..

Trump (and probably Bibi too) is counting on the Fakestinians rejecting anything and everything. After that, Israel is free to do what needs to be done - apply sovereignty to everything. All of Israel's land. Every inch.

Trump did not own any rights in Palestine! Nor the Golan!
Israel has to date no Legally Declared Borders.
'If it is illegal to acquire territory by war and if armistice lines were not borders before the armistice and if the Sovereign state of Israel has never legally annexed any territory, can you please produce a map of Israel’s actual Sovereign territory, that includes Ashkelon, Beer Sheeba, Acre, and all the territories acquired by war by 1949?
No, Israel isn't free to loot.

Nobody is free to loot - and that includes Islamofascists. Crack open a history book and do some (comprehensive, if possible) reading before you produce such useless verbal diarrhea. Not even worthy of discussion.

It's worth discussion looks like Islamofascists are recognizing Israel.

Here's hoping you're right but in my 80 some years I trusted and been let down so much that I'm afraid to trust any of what I hear and only half of what I see.
Shalom...

That's always wise, Dorothy. I'm just extrapolating from what I see and expect, but I didn't invent the rainbows either... ;-)

: )

I agree with him, no giving the fakestinians ANY land.
If they want a state, let them f**k off into the desert ( many miles from Israel) and park their tents there!!

“Don’t surrender an inch of land’”
Not now not EVER!!!!! Stand strong Israel do not depend on America. America does not show up to help you in the coming Gog of Magog war! Many millions of us would like to see us be there but something stops any nation from coming to your aid! Our own stupid civil war is possible here! Look up: Antifa planning attacks during Fourth of July!

If Israel surrenders land it will be he*ll to pay. And that includes America for God is not going to overlook the part Trump plays in this and we the people will have to pay the price.
Speaking of our own war going on, I noticed that when the DC mayor bit*hed about the national guard, Trump pulled them out fairly quick. Isn't it something how even our prez bows down to their demands? No wonder the blacks feel they should get away with it.
I haven't yet seen Trump saving our country but I do see it falling down all around us. Wonder how he will explain why he went against his "vow" to defend America against both "domestic" and foreign enemies? And here I thought it was only the democrats that did that. I've sure seen a lot of domestic enemies tearing down our cities, statues and anything else they can.
It looks like and appears that the Democrats, not Trump, is in charge and running the country once again. I wouldn't have voted for him had I not thought Trump had left the democrat party.
Shalom...

I understand RAA is correct, however, Trump's plan seem to hinge on the PA consistently rejecting any peace plan, and then Israel can proceed with the annexation as is what is currently happening. And, if they did accept Trump's plan, then it could be Israel's time to turn it down. Maybe RAA would be more relevant in rallying US Jews to vote Republican. Just an opinion, peace.

Read the damn plan again! It is final. If you keep 30% of Judea, you alienate the 70% permanently, without recourse. Land for pieces of Jews.

By 'annexation' Israel agrees and commits to 'negotiating' with SandMaggots who only demand, never negotiate. It is a trap!!!

And we know what happens to the Jews left on the 70%...

They need to be heavily armed trained and told to protect yourselves an go after the enemy! Like the Jews in the book of Ester!

You mean Hebrews in the book of Esther not khazars !

Yes ! Thank you, the tribe of Israel!

Mo Abbas declared Falestine Judenrein!!

That is indeed a tough pill to swallow. Personally I am banking on no commitments from both sides and Israel just annex by default. In the same way that G_d gave Israel the land ---- and it was up to Israel to take the land. So unlike after '67 and '73 when those lands were just given up including the Temple mount.

The remaining 70% remain under Israeli military administration.
Stop making stupid statements

Read it!!! Your error is egregious. The plan requires you to give it to the SandMaggots. You do not get possession if they reject your offer or refuse to negotiate.

Is it not written in the Bible how the Holy God of Israel allocated the land for the Israelites? So nobody has the authority to change His order? Oh so the nomads arrive and start renegotiating land belonging to Israel? Message from a Christian who Loves Israel !!!!

Yes of course all out WAR will be necessary!

It is a sin to surrender a piece of Judea and Samaria to enemies of God

1. West bank land plus land East of the Jordan was allocated for Jewish possession in 1920 San Remo conference by INTERNATIONAL Accord.
2. UK violated the agreement by slicing off land for Jordan, east of the river.
3. After WWII Jordan 1950 ILLEGALLY annexes West Bank. No LEGAL SOVEREIGNTY
4. 1988 Jordan gives up illegal claim to West Bank.
5. There is NO State with Sovereignty of WEST BANK.
6. ISRAEL is only re - asserting rights given to it by 1920 San Remo International Conf.
7. Those who are claiming it will ruin the Two State solution don't accept that there is NO SECOND STATE.

Jordan is the name of a river. The Hashemite ruled Arabia for 900 years, after they helped Allies win the War against the Ottomans. Churchill gave Arabia to the Saudis. The Hashemite had to move out of their land and Allies had the obligation to give them the East Bank of River Jordan, Palestinian Territories in British Mandate for Palestine.
God didn't give you Palestine, Balfour did.

The Rabbis are absolutely correct. ALL of Judea and Samaria is biblical Jewish land and not one inch may be given away. That would represent a denial of God and his authority and directives. It's a difficult decision and Trump means well but at our expense. We certainly have no obligation to pacify the misnamed Palestinians or make our land into a present for them.

The Rabbinical Alliance of America (RAA) is correct, but they must realize - which is historically also the strategy of PM Netenyahu - that there are times when you cannot get everything you ask for all at once. There are times you have to take it back piece by piece. This is one of those favorable times. ......

In the mean time, you need not worry that Palestine will become a state, because those Arab leaders in Palestine will never agree to the terms of peace spelled out in the Trump Peace Plan. ....

So, Israel should take what lands it can obtain now, and work on getting the rest at a future time. The thing is that, taking the lands it can now will a assure that Israel is in a safer position moving forward. And there is not a more favorable time in history for Israel to annex lands with US approval. This opportunity will not last long. ..... .

So, I ask the RAA to be reasonable, because what the RAA presently is demanding will not happen.

If it's your holy land , why aren't you there ?

becouse they ara parassite and satansts Baal JaBullOn Arumazda: of course!!
kingdom Satana Neoliberalism tecnocratic and masonic Deep State

Get a dictionary.

hey, Aru Mazda JaBullOn you will burn in hell with all your dictionary: equally

Israel was invaded by Arab states and Israel triumphed and occupied land under time honored conditions that a nation could retain occupied lands for its own defense against aggressors. Every time Israel traded land for peace they lost land. Carter , Obama, Clinton, even Bush, now Trump have set a standard land for peace, the Palestinians whoever they are, they have no intention of settling for a state of their own, they want one state and no Jews. The Palestinians require a national identity and they have not been able to invent one which is why they are trending towards radical Islam in Gaza and the PA has never gotten beyond Islam in order to make peace with Jews. A one state solution has become the only option that has any validity and Israel is the only state. . I used to believe in a two state solution, but after the deaths of Rabin and Sadat the hope died. No more can you walk or take a cab easily from Cairo to Tel Aviv. And Hezballah and Hamas have more missiles than terrorists. You can not feed people with missiles you need to have keen economic and a social sense for development. That leaves only Israel and that is not Israel's fault. Socialists and Islamists have no answers for a better world except to steal and loot.

Amazing how the so called 'experts' of Israel out side of Israel try to instruct the EXPERTS as in Israel how to conduct this and that. If Israel were to tell other countries how to conduct their land issues etc then they will react defiantly. Do your own thing Israel because only you know the truth and how this land issue should be done!!

It's not Trump's plan, it's Netanyahu's and Pipi was the one who wanted a terrorist state.

I am pretty sure its both their plan.

You are an idiot. Just shut up.

The Annex is an absolute. Trump are you loosing it to the Lair Arab/ Jordanian, or Egyptian playing Palestinians. Trump it is time for the fake Palestinians started by the British Place Arab King in Jordon to gave the name to Palestinians who followers Yasser Arafat in 1969 in Trans Jordan. Remember those Jordanian Palestinians, Arafat, and Abu Mazen known in Fatah and Mahmoud Abbas tried to throw Jordan's King out of power and they lost.Palestinians should be given their own Arab league who started Palestinian problems. The Arab League own the Palestinians, and it is cheap to keep them in Israel. Palestinians should be pushed back into the Arab League Countries. Israel belongs to Israel by a covenant with God Almighty. The Holy Land of Israel was given to the Jews. Europeans should keep their mouth in their own rotten business.

Alphabet soup?