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Lefty11 • 4 years ago

Fact Check:

I would call Moat Man a deranged, syphlitically advanced buffoon... but after all...

That’s Old News from his entire, sordid, criminal mobster life! 😂

macko • 4 years ago

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JohnBody • 4 years ago

Yup!

Trump is parroting right wing conspiracy media. It's pretty clear they have a direct link to his ear.

macko • 4 years ago

I think it's really quite telling that the best defense tRump's apologists can muster at this point is "nu-uh".

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

Facts First:Joe Biden did not brag that he stopped any prosecution. Rather, he bragged that he had successfully pressured the Ukrainian government to fire a prosecutor who was widely criticized for failing to bring corruption prosecutions.

'widely criticized' by who?

A prosecutor that just so happened to be investigating the company his son was getting over a half a million dollars a year from .you know....for being his son

JohnBody • 4 years ago

"'widely criticized' by who?"

US, EU, world bank, Ukrainians.... to name a few.

None of this was unknown or considered strange at the time. Some people's criticisms seem to be about 5 years too late and based on a fabricated conspiracy.

Debra Johnson • 4 years ago

And what gave him the right to stop an investigation. Biden still interfered.

MTG303 • 4 years ago

What gave the Vice President the "right" to intervene, was Ukraine needed the U.S. to back loan guarantees. He was acting in accordance to what Obama's administration, the European Union, the IMF and international investors wanted, an end to corruption and graft in Ukraine for their financial backing.

Ukraine’s parliament voted overwhelmingly to fire Viktor Shokin, ridding the beleaguered prosecutor’s office of a figure who is accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and stymying moves to root out graft.

Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko is under huge pressure to appoint a new prosecutor general with a strong anti-corruption reputation, and to back investigations into the shadowy affairs of major businessmen and politicians.

The EU and United States are demanding as much, amid a political crisis that has paralysed reforms in Ukraine and jeopardised vital funding from international lenders.
https://www.irishtimes.com/...
ZhangWe • 4 years ago

So globalists ..and a Ukraine front operation for the Democrats.

RJcan • 4 years ago

The" globalists" were so involved in this that they were pressuring the Ukraine Gov't to fire a prosecutor who was investigating Biden's kid? Why do the "globalists" care about Hunter Biden?

Are you pissed off that the lizard people are plotting steal your tinfoil hat?

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

Are you claiming 'globalists' don't exist and aren't in high level govt positions?

RJcan • 4 years ago

Lol. when this first showed up you asked if I was claiming "freemasons" don't exist and aren't in high level govt positions?

At least that was funny.

Of course "globalists" exist and are in high level govt positions. Does that mean they give a sht about Joe Biden's kid?

Especially when they are busy hiding under your bed planning to steal your hat? How would they find the time to plot a 3 year-long operation to cover up Joe Biden's kids corruption?

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RJcan • 4 years ago

Too bad. He's trying really hard.

RJcan • 4 years ago

Did that make any sense to you when you wrote it? Some gibberish followed with 'mic drop'? in all caps?

Impressive confidence tho. Wanna walk me through to mental gymnastics required to get there?

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

Any relation?...which words are you struggling with..and I'll take time out of my day to explain them to you.

https://uploads.disquscdn.c...

RJcan • 4 years ago

What part makes no sense and needs to be explained?

This part "if there's no there 'there' concerning Biden's kid, the Ukrainian govt wouldn't have been unable to supply anything of 'value'.

Maybe it's the unmade connection, maybe it's the double negative ("wouldn't have been unable"). I can't tell because beyond those issues it still looks like it was written by a drunk 15 year old.

Baby PutinTrump • 4 years ago

I did a little bit of research to help educate you ...... "aaaaa-gaaaaain" (as Forest Gump would say). This is a BBC news report from November 2015 (i.e., before Biden got involved)...

QUOTE:
"Mr Shokin has been criticised for what his opponents say is his inability to bring any corruption cases to court. He has also been accused of sabotaging the anti-corruption drive officially declared by Ukraine..."

SOURCE:
https://www.bbc.com/news/wo...
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macko • 4 years ago

“'widely criticized' by who?”

Every western nation.

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

List and quote them..then provide the evidence by which they did so.

macko • 4 years ago

lol...

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

Seems a bit on the short side...

macko • 4 years ago

Yeah, that must be it.

registered_with_discus • 4 years ago

Except that said prosecutor was actually slowing down that investigation as much as he could.

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

No that was the accusation of an organization funded to the tune of $2.2 million (we know of) by the Democrats.being investigated for embezzlement by him.

RJcan • 4 years ago

Who Criticised Shokin?

The Ukrainian Anti-Corruption Action Center - https://www.kyivpost.com/ar...

The EU - https://www.irishtimes.com/...

Ukrainians - https://www.rferl.org/a/ukr...

The IMF - http://georgiatoday.ge/news...

And the USA.

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

"The ruling was issued as part of an embezzlement investigation into money allocated by the U.S. government "i.e the democrats.

So a democratically funded(CIA?) front....

RJcan • 4 years ago

Yes, that was Shokin's accusation against the anti corruption action center. Shokin is now retired retired because Ukrainians knew he was corrupt, and the ACAC is still doing it's thing, trying to end corruption in Ukraine, because Ukrainians consider them to be clean..

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

'Ukrainians'...you mean the political party who opposed him

And did that centre recieve $2,2 million from the Democrats?

RJcan • 4 years ago

The vote was 289 - 6. Do you think the gov't had only 6 friggin' seats?

114 of those votes came from Poroshenko's (the guy who hired Shokin) party.

Yes, they did get $ from the US. Can you show they mis-spent it?

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

Which he's appealing..hey no one likes a prosecutor investigating corruption if you're all up to your necks in it

RJcan • 4 years ago

What a circus this is turning into.

Trump doesn't give a shit if he turns entire countries upside down to find an election time smear that'll stick with the rally sheep.

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

Are you drawing an analogy with president Trump's supporters with Sheep..to express what?

RJcan • 4 years ago

He tells them to baa, and they baaaaa.

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

You mean these guys ....

'The European Union is accused of “breathtaking hypocrisy” for continuing to demand that David Cameron pays a £1.7 billion bill despite its own auditors failing to give a clean bill of health to more than £100 billion of spending by Brussels.

According to the annual report of the European Court of Auditors, seen by The Telegraph, £5.5 billion of the EU budget last year was misspent because of controls on spending that were deemed to be only “partially effective” by experts.

The audit, published this morning, found that £109 billion out of a total of £117 billion spent by the EU in 2013 was "affected by material error”.

It means that the Brussels accounts have not been given the all clear for 19 years running.

Treasury sources said that the disclosure shows why the EU needs “urgent reform”.

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

'The Ukrainian Anti-Corruption Action Center'

The protest on March 28 followed a Kiev court ruling that authorized Shokin's office to investigate a watchdog organization called the Anticorruption Action Center, over claims that the center embezzled $2.2 million in aid.

RJcan • 4 years ago

Yes, did you notice the headline "Discredited Shokin opens probe against anti-corruption group"?

Corrupt guy was sick of being investigated by anti-corruption group, sets up investigation into said group. Sounds like a familiar tactic. If it was the other way around, you'd think the parliament there would not have voted 289 - 6 to accept his resignation.

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

You mean the 'anti-corruption' group that received $2.2 million dollars more than likely brokered through Biden who's son was getting half a million from the company the prosecutor was investigating. for being his son..they sound like the exact opposite of an anti-corruption
organization

RJcan • 4 years ago

That would be the opposite of an anti-corruption organization. It'll be fun watching you try to prove it. You'll have to somehow show that the EU, the UN and the IMF were somehow involved in this pressing need to protect Joe Biden's son at the cost of their reputations.

Unless, of course, your concept is just to make random unsupported accusations knowing that morons will eat it up because it supports the narrative they are clinging to.

If that's your plan, you'll probably be pretty successful.

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

That'll be the E.U who's accounts haven't been validated in 19 years ..or the U.N
Where China chaired the freedom of information committee
Iran the Woman's rights committee ?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

RJcan • 4 years ago

And those connect to a pressing need to protect Hunter Biden how exactly?

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

That you're citing organizations with no credibility.

RJcan • 4 years ago

Don't get offended by this, but they have a lot more credibility than some guy on the internet tossing sht at the wall and telling me to connect the dots.

ZhangWe • 4 years ago

If you want to cite an organization the U.N which has China head their freedom of information committee as 'credible' and the E.U concerning corruption that hasn't had it's billions of Euro budgets signed off for 19 years..then go ahead ..you're doing my job for me.

RJcan • 4 years ago

This is your job?

Makes sense.

Baby PutinTrump • 4 years ago

Looks like some people can do research on their own, and some folks (typically right-wingers) are just way too stupid to be able to do it.

Excellent sources.

Liberal Soup N Crackers® • 4 years ago

What utter horse manure
If this goes to trial in the Senate, the Democrats are going to be pissing their pants.

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George Lloyd • 4 years ago

I feel that I must criticize you regarding your use of time in reference to the frequency of Mr. Trump's lies. I believe that your question should be along the lines of, 'Gee, really, what hour is it today?'