Think about it. China, although supporting some wars, has not personally engaged in any. Carter is right on. ... and China has not wasted any of its resources waging wars.

War drives tech tech drives economy.

Which makes me wonder how China's zooming ahead, then.

More then one form of war.

What war are they doing?

Corporate war corporate espionage and global dumping

https://www.npr.org/2018/03...

China drives other countries out of business by undercutting their labor costs

How you missed these wars is beyond me.

Maybe because I don't consider them to be "wars", and therefore, the use of the word 'war' did not get your point across.

You should learn the concept that war is just the continuation of diplomacy by other means.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wi...

learn some history or at least get a quote book.

Thumb war war of words football

Life is war

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Don't blame others when you use unconventional definitions for well-known words without any kind of explanation, and then complain when you're misunderstood.

Economic warfare is used all the time.

I blame your education.

Would you rather i blame you for not paying attention?

"Economic warfare" is an explanation, David. You just said "war".

So life and everything else falls under war.

get with the program otherwise your diet will kill you as it wages war on your body.

Everything's war. Everything. War war war.

Well, at least you know how your words come across to others. Hopefully you won't be so sloppy in the future.

Son you need to widen your mind and start to realize people don't just use your language.

You have to be open to interpreting others use of the language

We all have slightly different dictionary's in our heads thats why people fight and argue otherwise there would be no need.

I son know that you and others will misunderstand me.

You son need to realize others will misunderstand you.

It is not that I am the problem i am just too lazy to make my worlds comfortable for every halfwit out there and no not talking about you.

Yep. And if someone misunderstands me, I explain. If someone misunderstands you, you blame others.

I blame you for not understanding and?

Did I not explain till you understood?

You can head this off by being more clear. Even just a modifier would've helped, rather than being vague. Oh well.

It was only vague to you because you lack wisdom and understanding.

I have no reason to head anything off i am not here to teach you reality.

It's a good point.. but then no children were napalmed in your scenario...

Right so no child labor no starving children driven off the land to make way for bigger farms pretty sure you do not understand economic warfare.

Maybe you should check out the death toll in India to the farming industry as they are driven to suicide over debt.

You don't pay enough attention to the realities that corporate warfare have on peoples lives.

I'm well aware of this tragedy but this has little to do with China IMO.. The overwhelming reasons for this is unpaid/predatory debt, Addiction issues, crop failure (environmental, pesticide cost, GMO seed stock issues and irrigation availability) and poor investments (new crops, bad market insight) China is not solely responsible for these suicides, globalism is... Were all responsible for the deaths of those farmers..

"You don't pay enough attention to the realities that corporate warfare have on peoples lives." - I'm a liberal you silly twerp, we live for this $#it... Oh right, Chump today claimed climate change wasn't a hoax, it's "Claim opposite of previous statements week" It's cool, you're just following orders...

No Idea what you talking about Trump doesn't live in my head.

Capitalism And regular peoples greed is what causes people to give up their old ways and start doing stupid stuff that kills the populations off.

40 years ago everyone in the US had a garden.

Now almost no one has a garden.

what do they do with all that extra time?

stare at their phones.

That was quite the erratic response D.A. Are you ok ?

You claimed China was responsible for the rash of suicides in India, I refuted this..

"Now almost no one has a garden." - I do, my neighbors do, Here in Cali people are digging up their front lawns for gardens, hundreds of community gardens exist or using rooftops in large cities.. Not sure what the rest of the country is doing but it can't be that different..

Thats because Cali has gotten to expensive to buy groceries. :P

Negative never said china was at fault.

You said "China drives other countries out of business by undercutting their labor costs"

Followed by a rant about "Corporate war corporate espionage and global dumping"

I simply showed you the actual reasons for farmer suicides in India since you asked me to look it up...

No i didn't and now you are going on block for talking shit when no one asked you too

https://media1.giphy.com/me...

Do me a favor since I am not allowed to block you and don't text me unless as a moderator thanks.

No, I will respond to you whenever I feel like it. If you do not like it ignore me.

Economic warfare is at work in every country internal warfare external dumping and all types of destruction of society through changes in society that comes with progress.

China mainly dumps products and raw materials.

EU and US mainly dump agricultural stuff as they have been com,bating African famines for years and have surplus growth.

You have not backed up your original statement. I provided facts, you provide opinion...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

Well then perhaps that is the "war" we should be waging as well.

Trumps trade war and sanctions duh he is waging that type of war and trying not to wage a hot wat

EXCLUSIVELY. Duh.

Not being at war does not mean you cannot capitalize on building and selling weapons...

Yeah. China is crappy at tech.

yep they are realy bad

Was in Starbucks today and saw a family of Chinese women I think - like 3 generations. They were having SUCH a good time, just enjoying each so thoroughly. Beautiful to see.

3 generations wow so two of those generations grew up in rice fields or the equivalent in town such stuff and the latest generation is just learning tech.

That was the US 50 years ago.

Huawei sucks

Carter is a great man.. A national treasure..

I am glad Trump didn't ask Carter's advice about how to handle an Embassy takeover, how to deal with Iran, or an energy crisis.

Now the response would have been enlightening. from experience.

The mans got a point.

Ouch!

Carter 2020

Let's see if Trump is smart enough to heed some very wise advice from his much more intelligent elder?

Last evening a poster on another thread suggested that if we scaled down or took funding from our military we could afford "free" healthcare. Maintaining our military would not cost anywhere near what it costs to engage in these perpetual wars. WAR is the problem NOT the military, itself. The military should be maintained for defense purposes only and as I've said for many years, our efforts to "spread democracy" and police the planet in these civil wars has been an epic failure in man power and increasing debt.

Our country has enjoyed only 16 years of peace b/c in the past war has been profitable for some Americans. " For a very long time the main avenue for this was armaments manufacture. The V-22 Osprey may be a death trap, but it’s also $71 million in revenue for Bell or Boeing. Each of the 33 Los Angeles class fast-attack submarines cost close to $1 billion, and nearly all that money went to General Dynamics or Newport News Shipbuilding. The profits on that kind of revenue are considerable."

It's been a long time since the U.S. has been engaged in a war that prompted an uptick in weapons manufacturing, however, but what we have done, instead, during times of war is replace mobilization with subcontracting. It used to be that in order to wage war, we had to draft people. Most draftees found themselves filling out the huge ranks of logistical support personnel that an army in the field requires. We don’t do that anymore.

"Instead, we give money to firms like KBR and Halliburton, and they do all the support work. This gives the military flexibility, in the sense that it doesn’t have to be accountable in any way for the actions or fate of the contractors. The Army doesn’t report casualty figures on private security contractors. They’re just as dead or wounded as American soldiers would be, but they don’t get veterans’ benefits. Heck, they’re lucky if they can collect on their repatriation bond. (Oh, a lot of them aren’t Americans, either.)" THIS is where the money goes and WHO benefits from these wars.

Yes, and the necessary consent of a sufficiently large portion of the population is simply manufactured, so that just enough people vote such that the billionaires get richer at a sufficiently high pace. Or you can vote the light version of the same. While thinking that the US offers the most freedom and the best rules, and is the greatest.
Well, where I live, the vast majority of the peope think very differently.
On fi Quora this is discussed. Questions like "What is it like to NOT live in a country so free and great as the USA?" are seriously asked and seriously answered. Hilarious...
It is not so much Donald Trump anymore who is the laughing stock of the world. About him (and the gop and its crazy supporters) we're increasingly worried.
It's American culture in general that is perceived increasingly as highly self-centered, money-worshipping, superstitious, agressive, gun crazed, self-righteous, religion obsessed, and, as a result, proportionally hypocritical and immoral.
Personally, I feel bad for the majority of the people, who, I see that too, mostly doesn't want it either, but who are essentially bullied, gerrymandered, and manipulated into submission by and to the whims of a much smaller narrow-minded, fanatical, fear- driven, ignorant but highly organized group. It is as if they have hijacked your society, and are working, relentlessly, to supplant the very rule of law of a civilized democracy, by a savage, violent, backward rule of survival of the most brutal; eveybody for himself, and preferably at the cost of others.
The ugly downfall of a once great civilization.

Sadly, our military targets the poorest and the most disenfranchised areas to find the brave women and men who end up fighting these endless wars.

Every dollar spent on the Apollo project paid 7 dollars back, I once read.

Europe has the Large Hadron Collider, which helps unravel the mysteries of the universe. Science and International cooperation. Growth of knowledge and understanding at its finest.
The USA could have had its own, even larger Superconducting Super Collider "Desertron" near Waxahachie in Texas. The building had already started.
But it was halted by zealous senators who considered it a waste of money. And it posed an imminent threat, of course, to the higly necessary and infinitely more important military spending of a little over one billion dollar per day. So how much money does building such monumental physics installations devour?

LHC cost 9 billion dollar to build, iow roughly one week of the US' military spending. Ever since then, the USA has to go to CERN to participate in cutting edge science.
The USA used to be a leader and an example. Maybe it's time to pause and think for a while about what the USA has gradually become. Spoiler alert: it ain't nice.