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Mohammed_Goldberg • 4 years ago

People must remember, under Islam, females are not considered people, but are property which can be used/abused by any male, without legal recourse.

truebearing • 4 years ago

Under Islam, no one is human. They should all be eradicated as soon as possible. Give them the Soleimani.

Steve Burstein • 4 years ago

The media railed against Irish abuse of Children in cherry-picked hyperbolic pieces that gave out half-truths about the orphanages and Magdalen Laundries, but they ignore this-and this is hundreds of times worse!

Moh de Profit • 4 years ago

They railed against historic abuse by celebrities too, all of it is a distraction, the media has its socialist agenda and they cover up these crimes with celebrity.

Steve Burstein • 4 years ago

But it turned out that whoever Rolf Harris was tying down wasn't a Kangaroo.

BAndrew Crichton • 4 years ago

The Catholic church is the church of sexual abuse.

Islam is the religion of sexual abuse.

Both are evil.

Rocío Matamoros • 4 years ago

Well, Andrew, there are some notable differences.

Catholic teaching says that priests who abuse their office by seducing or raping those in their charge will face the prospect of a particularly severe circle of H*ll if they don't repent - that repentance would include handing themselves over to the authorities for punishment in this life. Many Catholics would happily see such priests face the death penalty (given a fair trial).

The abuse of authority is a perennial problem, and we conservatives have to deal with it. Leftists just pretend that they can somehow do without authority. Leftists are also very keen to point at rogue priests, because it distracts the public from much higher levels of abuse in state education and state childrens' homes.

Islam, on the other hand, bestows on its men the right to rape the women and girls of infidels. And as you've just read, the government, media, courts and police cover it up and persecute whistleblowers.

DonnaDonnaTwo • 4 years ago

Yes, pedophile priests were moved around to help them avoid prosecution and the Vatican itself is trafficking children.

FMarion • 4 years ago

Donna: You have little idea of what you are talking about. First, it was mainly pederasty, not pedophilia. Second, the vast majority of priests are moved around every 3-6 years. Most of the pederasts who were moved were simply routinely transferred since the vast majority of their victims--like the girls in Britain--were scared silent. No one knew what they were doing.

Some priests were indeed moved around to "protect the church" but most known abusers who were transferred after their abuse became known were transferred on the advice of the treating psychologists/psychiatrists. The theory back then was that once a child abuser learned of his "trigger points" and was moved away from the vicinity of the child abuse, he would never abuse again. It was patent nonsense, but it is what passed for "science" from the 1950's-1980's. If you doubt me, take a look at how many public school teachers who were abusers were also transferred around during this time. This is what the "experts" were telling people to do. (And yes some of the experts turned out to be child abusers themselves).

And no, the Vatican as an institution is not trafficking children. Some people there might be doing that--it is a big place--and many Italians, like many other Europeans, still treat child abuse lightly. If you read the New York Times two weeks ago (and if so, my condolences) there is a huge scandal in France right now. One of the most celebrated French writers, who is in his 80's, wrote a series of books starting in the 1970's celebrating his sexual conquests of young teenage children. The books were hugely popular on the French left, which argued for decades that child abuse (words they didn't use) was tremendously liberating for children and freed them from narrow bourgeois constraints of their parents.

This was the received "wisdom" of most of the continental left, which collectively regards sexual restraint as the only real sin. Except in France, one of the then-young girls this writer raped (and he pursued both boys and girls) wrote a searing piece this year that the French media finally agreed to print about how her life had been destroyed by this guy's abuse, and the French left is stunned. Some are attacking her but others are saying "wait--maybe we made a huge mistake."

The same leftist theories made some inroads in America in the 1970's--the North American Man Boy Love Association was routinely allowed to march in gay pride parades--and many on the left were pushing for lowering the age of consent. It was all lies, of course. Few things are worse for children than sexual abuse, but the people pushing it never really cared about the children.

Anyway, speaking as a Catholic, not one single priest should have ever looked at a child and the fact that hundreds of them molested children shows that we failed in ensuring that pederasts and pedophiles were kept out of the priesthood. And some were protected despite knowing what they were doing, which might be worse. But with a huge amount of effort we have largely cleaned out the molesters, and we are well ahead of the public schools in that (where the unions often protect them). The idea that dioceses knew all about the activities of the molesters is generally wrong since most victims kept quiet for decades. And the idea that the Vatican as an institution engages in tracking children is wrong. Too many people there still don't take child abuse seriously enough, but they aren't child traffickers.

Rocío Matamoros • 4 years ago

Certainly, there have been bishops who tried to brush the problem under the carpet, while others who were part of the homosexual mafia even acted as enablers. They all bear responsibility to various degrees for the crimes committed under their watch. Victims have also been fobbed off.

Be aware that the problem cuts two ways. While the guilty have gone unpunished in many cases, there are also innocent men who have been accused and punished. The Catholic Church is a tempting target for fraudsters who make their accusations, and even when contradictions are exposed, bishops have taken the easy way out and handed over large sums of money. The case of Cardinal Pell in Australia was the most prominent of these frame-ups (he was hated by the left for his firm opposition to gay "marriage", abortion etc.) - I don't have space to argue the details here, but if you go through the case yourself, you'll see what I mean. Daphne Anson, who is not Catholic but Jewish, gave a couple of good summaries of the case while it was in progress (at the website bearing the same name).

You might also investigate Bella Dodd, former lawyer for the CPUSA (and Party member herself), who appeared before HUAC, and testified that she had placed thousands of Party members in Catholic seminaries to infiltrate the Church. Unsurprisingly, she found that only homosexuals volunteered. This only needed an initial impetus from the Party - afterwards, it was able to maintain and expand itself.

As for "the Vatican itself is trafficking children", what is your source? I follow all the Vatican scandals very closely, and should be up to date, but this is new to me. The closest rumour I've encountered is that a former friend of the present Pope has been accused of trafficking in children, under the cover of a children's charity (an Argentinian with the initials GV, in case you've read about this yourself). This is very serious indeed, but does not fit your description.

I've found that various antisemitic Elders-of-Zion type slanders are sometimes recycled and pinned on the Vatican. Be on your guard against this kind of internet manipulation (the stories are easily detectable as frauds by anyone who knows enough Jewish/Israeli history, or Catholic history, as appropriate, but for those who aren't already well informed, they have an air of plausibility).

FMarion • 4 years ago

Well stated. The case of Cardinal Pell is particularly shocking. Being required to prove an affirmative defense by evidence "beyond reasonable doubt" is one of the most astounding assaults on the rights of the accused in recent history.

Anglo/American/Australian law requires the government--not the defendant--to prove all elements beyond a reasonable doubt, which means that the majority of the court of appeals got the standard of proof exactly backward. Once Pell's lawyer argued that the accusations were impossible (and they were), the state of Victoria was required to show that they were not impossible beyond a reasonable doubt.

The case--which could have occurred in the US as well; the hysteria is similar--is a frightening example of the new totalitarianism. Not only did the courts fail in their job, but the Victoria Police set up a unit to investigate Pell for abuse allegations without having first received one. Instead, they went out trolling for victims. Most who responded were clearly not credible--they went with the most credible of the lot. And when one jury refused to convict they took it of a second one--this time without live witness and only video recordings.

What kind of police force in a free country decides to try to prosecute someone when there are no crimes alleged and goes looking for people willing to allege a crime? That was the method of Yezhov and Beria--and should never be permitted in a free country. But the western world grows less free as the social justice mob demands scalps.

Rocío Matamoros • 4 years ago

F. Marion, that's easily the best short account of the Pell case that I've seen. I certainly couldn't have put it together so well.

If you don't mind, I'd like to be able to quote it - with full acknowledgement, of course - when the matter comes up in future.

FMarion • 4 years ago

Thanks for the kind words, Rocio, and no need to provide attribution. What occurred in this case is beyond scandalous. In addition, I have to assume that the Victoria police are subject to some political control (police forces should be held to some sort of accountability, after all) which suggests that some politicians either unleashed the police on Pell, or at least didn't stop them. I find that amazingly scary because they could do the same thing to any of us if they decide they don't like us. And it is almost impossible to prove that you didn't do something 20 years ago (which the police also know).

Steve Burstein • 4 years ago

Catholic readers of Front Page Mag probably wouldn't agree with you on the former. I missed it when a Catholic Priest injected a girl with heroin-could you tell me when that happened?

Sherri Lynch • 4 years ago

I am not Catholic, but I stumbled onto a site called "Church Militant" and am still in shock.

FMarion • 4 years ago

Well, don't accept everything in Church Militant uncritically. They believe what they publish, and while some appears to be true, some is dubious and I know for a fact that some simply isn't correct.

That being said, I don't doubt their good faith or their shock at the corruption they do find. Their error is to assume all or most bishops are corrupt--and that is not the case. A lot of good bishops have been promoted in the last 15 years, and most of them have no tolerance at all for abusers.

Rocío Matamoros • 4 years ago

Well, Andrew, there are some notable differences.

Catholic teaching says that priests who abuse their office by seducing or raping those in their charge will face the prospect of a particularly severe circle of Hell if they don't repent - that repentance would include handing themselves over to the authorities for punishment in this life. Many Catholics would happily see such priests face the death penalty (given a fair trial).

The abuse of authority is a perennial problem, and we conservatives have to deal with it. Leftists just pretend that they can somehow do without authority. Leftists are also very keen to point at rogue priests, because it distracts the public from much higher levels of abuse in state education and state childrens' homes.

Islam, on the other hand, bestows on its men the right to rape the women and girls of infidels. And as you've just read, the government, media, courts and police cover it up and persecute whistleblowers.

Biff_Maliboo • 4 years ago

So ignorance of the law IS an excuse?

Chief Mac • 4 years ago

It is also the case in America - look up "Qualified Immunity"

CharlieSeattle • 4 years ago

It only applies to Government officials, not muslim Rapists.

Qualified immunity is a legal doctrine in United States federal law that shields government officials from being sued for discretionary actions performed within their official capacity, unless their actions violated "clearly established" federal law or constitutional rights.

sobieskirocks • 4 years ago

Depends on who you are.

truebearing • 4 years ago

Interesting question. The root of "ignorance" is "to ignore". Being "ignorant" of something is commonly understood to mean that the person is uneducated or doesn't know any better. That is a cop out. People know when something is wrong, they just choose to ignore it.

Charles Baudelaire once wrote that "ignorance is the worst sin". He didn't mean that not knowing something was the worst sin, or a sin at all. He meant that knowing that an act is wrong, or even evil, but doing it anyway is the worst sin. There is no defense for doing something evil when you knew it was evil.

Ignorance and depraved indifference are more similar than they are different.

truebearing • 4 years ago

If the Asian men don't know this is wrong, they don't know anything is wrong and should be put down like rabid dogs. The better question is do the UK authorities know wrong from right, and do they care?

This is horrible. The penalty for those who have enabled this evil should be the same as that for the rapists -- death.

The March Hare • 4 years ago

They are accessories to and after the fact and should be subjected to the same punishments.

truebearing • 4 years ago

Depraved indifference should be punished according to the penalty for the evil it was indifferent to.

Conservatrollcrapsonyou • 4 years ago

Islamopithecines are always described as "Asians" by the dhimmedia in Britainistan.

dwayne robertson • 4 years ago

If pedophilia was a capital offense, it would be a solid deterrent and solution for recidivism. Pedophilia destroys life, rape destroys life, and murder destroys life. We have sacrificed our sense of shame, sacrificed innocent children and eliminated the consequence for this brutality. We have become preoccupied with fake victim snowflakes while we ignore legitimate victims.

I smell a bit of hypocrisy as we look down our nose across the pond, while we listen to Michael Jackson, the King of Pop.

truebearing • 4 years ago

I agree completely on everything you wrote. Not only did the nation worship Jackson, we are indifferent to the slavery of prostitution and drug addiction that is epidemic in this country.

The UK, Europe, and America have fallen into depraved indifference to evil. If pride goeth before the fall, how much ahead of pride is depraved indifference?

AlgorithmicAnalyst • 4 years ago

"Muslim businesses served as coordinating networks for the rape and abuse of children."

Also for money laundering of illicit funds.

Alexander Gofen • 4 years ago

No, it's the cops and the entire egregious Britain which did not understand that bringing islamic piranhas into own aquarium is a treasonous and suicidal idea; That islamic piranhas are incapable to accept the rules of a civilized aquarium and ought to never be let in the first place.

It's unfathomable how the Brits could degrade to such a baseness...

Surak2 • 4 years ago

How often have we had to listen to politicians assuring us with a straight face that the UK (or Canada) is our closest ally! We share so much intelligence with UK - I wonder if that is really wise?

Alexander Gofen • 4 years ago

The bitterness of your question is much deeper than it sounds!

The very word "ally" is being used now by inertia without giving it a second thought. After all, in order to determine who are our allies, first we must clearly identify our enemies and the wars we are in. However only a small minority of Americans can recognize the wars we are really in:

1) Against Islam;
2) Against the NWO globalization and deliberate mixing of races in order to rid of the white race;
3) Against the neo-marxism "with sodomite face", and against socialism.

We are deeply disunited even within America in identifying these enemies. Even Trump would not dare mentioning them, while near entire US government is on the side of these enemies. No American party (except the Judeo-Christian America) would dare to mention them!

There is seemingly only one party in the world - the Geerd Wilders party in the Netherlands which openly identifies islam as the enemy. There is only Angola as a Christian nation which confronts sodomy. And speaking about Egregious Britain, it is already taken by the all three. And I am very saddened to realize that Israel is in a process of being taken by all the three too.

With whom to ally?

Surak2 • 4 years ago

Race-mixing? So now we are on the side of the klan?

Are you aware that Europeans are a mixture of homo sapiens and Neanderthal man, and Orientals are a mixture of homo sapiens and Denisovan man?

I am married to a naturalized citizen who was born in China. She is 100% pro-MAGA. Should our children be murdered because of your theories on race?

Guy Neutral • 4 years ago

So disgusting, so wrong for such pathetically weak kneed “law enforcers” to cower before filthy, child molesting cockroaches. Europe is finished.

truebearing • 4 years ago

The same things are happening is America. Black and Mexican gangs, and white bikers,are trafficking girls all across this fine nation.

Guest • 4 years ago
Oscar • 4 years ago

Or The Great Replacement.

Alex Maccoll • 4 years ago

We need to ask about those group homes the kids are sent to. Are they privately operated facilities? Is it part of a de-institutionalization song and dance? The privatizing of some functions CAN lead to widespread abuse. Who gets contracts to run those homes? Some may be opportunists who see an easier way than getting a job. Some may be "South Asian" investors. Frequent urine tests to be sure the kids are staying off drugs? These and the facilities cost someone money, most likely the taxpayer.

I am working toward the idea that the system was an obviously easy one to mess around with before people began to mess with it. It has to be a very sloppy system. Vulnerability can incite attack, and those within it will know how to mess it up. Half of them may be run by pedos and the other half by greedy idiots who would happily rent out anything to any one.

The path to this may have been paved by pedos in high places.

Not to say that the "groomers" are innocent or in some way blameless, I would not consider saying that.

We probably need to hear from some professional social workers here, not British ones, they could be fired. Honesty is punishable there, Katie Hopkins has spoken of it. She has lost several jobs and a house and very nearly a lot more. Not everyone is as strong and resourceful as she is. Some of their non-British friends might have some ideas.

Edit addition; I must say, part of my reason for going after the group homes is: the police, social work system and media are obviously useless or intentionally evil. It may help if British social workers wrote some letters to friends in other countries.

Moh de Profit • 4 years ago

British social workers have been trying to get this publicised for years. Every time they get close some celebrity scandal takes all the headlines, same this time, I cannot find any mainstream news coverage it’s all about Prince Harry.
All children’s homes are government run and that has been part of the problem, as more and more muslims have a vote they vote for a muslim and the police employ them too and they conspired with each other.
To be fair its not just muslims, in the past pedos would foster children to abuse them, they got into the system and worked from within.

RubyTwoThree • 4 years ago

Speaking of grooming gangs has anyone heard from Tommy? I still think about him and pray for him.

Great comparison between priss pot Meghan and the children lost to corrupt system filled w/pedophiles. A long time ago I tried to deal w/a pedophile that was a well loved school teacher, the back lash I received was stunning, all I wanted to do was protect a boy that I felt 100% was being groomed. Long story short years later one kid spoke out, then another, then another, finally the teacher went to jail. It is so much harder than one would think to expose these type people, I cannot imagine taking on an entire gang of them.

Moh de Profit • 4 years ago

Nothing in the press over here in the U.K. just distractions about celebrity again and again.

RubyTwoThree • 4 years ago

It does get old.

Alex Maccoll • 4 years ago

He did recently give an excellent speech in Denmark where he had been invited to recieve an award.

He said he has been pretty well scrubbed from all social media, possibly by government request. The swamp over there may be worse than ours is, if that is possible.

RubyTwoThree • 4 years ago

Tommy is a brave man. Their swamp is older than our swamp.

Allston • 4 years ago

A social media acquaintance of mine is the daughter of the SF novelist, Ursula K. LeGuin. She and her husband were sexually abusive monsters, no two ways about it. Just as you say, her experience had been that the sheer number of people who made excuses, refused to see or act, was appalling, and that went on for a good long time; years in fact. And now that the entire hideous story has come out, there are still those who make excuses and believe that nothing wrong ever occurred

Outmoded Thinker • 4 years ago

It was Marion Zimmer Bradley, not (as far as I know) Ursula LeGuin. The link in the Allston post in this thread goes to an article about Bradley's daughter. Truly horrible.

Conservatrollcrapsonyou • 4 years ago

Ursula K. LeGuin was a sexually abusive monster? I never heard about that. I'll never read another one of her stories.

Allston • 4 years ago

https://www.lifesitenews.co...

Moira is one of the strongest women you might ever meet. She came out of all of it sane, if troubled. She is a staunch advocate for sanity in these things, and a true believer, her faith is solid and pure. And she lost the love of her life, her husband, about 1/2 a year ago, and she still pushes on.

justthefactsmam • 4 years ago

Powerful article, there is no mention though of Ursula K. Le Guin in it...

Conservatrollcrapsonyou • 4 years ago

My condolences. I'm glad she still pushes on.