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Agreed, why was there live ammunition anywhere near that movie set?
"In the aftermath of the shooting, the authorities found five additional live rounds on the set, including on top of the cart where props were kept and in a belt that Mr. Baldwin was wearing as a costume piece. The investigation by the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office did not answer a key question of the case: how live ammunition ended up on a movie set."
I remember reading that the cast and crew would shoot real guns with rounds during lunch breaks and down time. That one of those guns must have gotten mixed up with the fake guns. Who knows if it is the truth?
Yes it is!
Yes actually. Check out the FBI report. There is an itemized list of everything found and from looking at that live rounds were everywhere.
I can't believe the movie was not scrapped altogether because of this but then neither was The Crow when Brandon Lee was accidentally killed by a gun that was not supposed to be loaded. I don't remember if anybody was charged with his death.
They weren't.
The actor who fired the gun continued to work until his recent death
This is clearly the insane armorers fault. The definition of her job is literally to make sure no live rounds are in a prop gun.
When weapons are involved it's everyone's job to make sure no one is harmed and especially the guy who hired the armorer.
"Hannah is, and has always been, very emotional and sad about this tragic accident. But she did not commit involuntary manslaughter. " Yes she did. But not for her neglegience nobody would have been shot. She's the most culpuble person there.
I don't understand why Baldwin is being charged. Her, yes, it was her job to make sure there were only blanks in there. But there is no way he could have known they weren't blanks. I can't see any reason to charge him.
Because he was a producer on the set and many crew members expressed concern over the safety protocols. Couple that with him pulling the trigger and I see why he’s charged.
He hired her and was ultimately responsible for not sacking her for operating an unsafe set.
But he's not the one who didn't take "due caution and circumspection." The armeror is. He shot from a gun he was told was filled with blanks.
Yes, he (Alec) shot the gun. Even though he said he didnt pull the trigger which the FBI said is a lie. Alec did himself no favors when he was interviewed by George Stephanopoulos.
Of course he is. He is one of three
Dont rely on others that a gun is not loaded
On a movie set where everything is a prop, why on earth would you even think the gun might be loaded?
But actors on set take word of FX crew or armourer for safety
No, it means he puts trust in those on set responsible for these kinds of props.
As did most of Hollywood before this horrible event
It means they messed up, not him
Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, the armorer, was responsible for the weapons on set and loaded the gun that day. Baldwin will never be convicted of this. Actors use guns all the time on on movie sets. They don't check their guns. The armorer does. However, I bet more actors check them now.
This is a day that will live in infancy.
He f-ed up as a producer, cutting corners to save money. He hired unqualified professionals.
I don't think Alec was involved in hiring crew members. He would have relegated that to other producers.
So he may not be directly responsible but, as producer, isn’t he still accountable?
In my opinion no. Films have multiple producers and each one handles different things. That shouldn't make them all responsible for the other.
About time.
About time is right!
When one is pointing a gun, one knows exactly where they are pointing it. Innocent my @@$. He is, after all, a great actor and actors act even if they are "acting" innocent with a full range of emotion. That's what they get paid to do. Duh. And then try to pass it off. People should be charged unless they can prove that when they checked the gun, there were only blanks inside. We need to get real about this.
When filming movies actors point gus at people all the time (other actors or the crew members they are surrounded by). It is ludicous to try and hold an actor responsible for pulling the trigger on what they reasonably believed was a prop that would cause no harm.
Just like with surgery and just like with commercial flights, there should be a written checklist of steps for anyone handling a weapon on a movie set, including the actor, to confirm there is no live ammo. In the absence of that kind of protocol, the person handling the gun is making assumptions. Yes, other people failed here, but I can understand why the producer and actor handling the weapon might also be considered culpable.
Nothing will probably come out of this but it would be nice if he did get prison time and spent it all In solitary confinement; that would help reform him. Like I said though I doubt anything will happen to him.
Congrats Alec!
I had read during "down time" on the set they were target practicing with the same gun. Shows they had real bullets in the gun. Baldwin is guilty!
So, crew members using the gun off set for target practice makes Baldwin guilty?
Yes.
He should have checked it! One of the responsibilities of a producer! Safety is number one responsibility of producer, I would think!
You really think it’s a producer’s job to check prop guns? I’m pretty sure that’s why they hire an armorer.
Except Baldwin wouldn't have known about that. He wasn't involved. He has never fired a gun in his life. They also had many other guns on set, not just that one. So there is nothing even saying the gun used was operated during the crew's shenanigans. That has never been confirmed.
ANYTIME a firearm is picked up, especially in that situation, it should be checked...on the side of caution!
He assumed it was already checked and good. It was handed to him by someone else. Alec has no experience with guns so he wouldn't even think to check it himself.
Not when you are handed a prop gun on a movie set. Hell, how would an actor even know if the gun had some type of blank or a live round?
Unfortunately every single day that rule is broken. Irresponsible gun owners think that the gun is unloaded and kill someone with you aren't supposed to aim at anything you don't want to kill.
He's used guns on set in movies over decades
Fake guns, props for filming movies.
Has there ever been an explanation for why there were bullets in a gun that never should have had bullets? To me, that's the main issue in this case.