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Bob Greenyer • 4 years ago

OHMA - Analysis of feature on 2% Th doped W exposed to Ohmasa Gas

Slightly asymmetric tear drop like feature similar to 'Jewel' on LION appears to have at its head a double ring like structure, similar to those found in LION and Parkhomov 225 and elsewhere on the same sample. It contains elements in concentrations not present in the starting materials in certain spacial areas of the structure.

https://youtu.be/ZCLw27UvILA

Experiment:
https://youtu.be/QqDeiX5QC5k
https://youtu.be/SoCwLSLul1k

Slow motion:
https://youtu.be/Spd21spj2Pg

Roseland67 • 4 years ago

Bob,

Are you still stateside after your Madison presentation? If so, whereabouts?

Bob Greenyer • 4 years ago

Not at moment, maybe again before end of year

Roseland67 • 4 years ago

If near Chicago please advise when/where, Some colleague’s and I would like to meet you

Thomas Kaminski • 4 years ago

The Sector67 Talk is now posted as a video on my shared drive here:

https://drive.google.com/op...

Thanks to TomR who recorded it in Madison.

Warning: 2 hours long!

Stephen • 4 years ago

It’s very nice to be able to take a seat at that table thanks to Thomas and Tom for that.

I’m still only part way through the video 1 hour or so but not a second wasted so far. Already I feel the benefit of it.

Hopefully this evening I can watch the rest.

It’s puts a lot in context. Bobs approach is much clearer after seeing it.

PhysicsForDummies • 4 years ago

"Whiskers" is anthropomorphising. Have you considered other terms like filaments or chains? These ridiculous terms don't lend credibility.

Curbina • 4 years ago

It was simply a visually appealing term, and a funny familiar word for us cat lovers. Anyway, the way these filaments formed is the interesting part, and the hint that they are composed by Ti2O3 (as suggested by the Ti and O percentage measured), which is usually found only in meteorites if a understood correctly the comment from Thomas Kaminski.

Thomas Kaminski • 4 years ago

The Ti2O3 was from the section that looked like "coral". It was only Ti and O.

"Whiskers" are I term I have heard associated with the growth of metal shorts in integrated circuits and also in shorts due to improperly applied lead-free solder on circuit boards.

Bob Greenyer • 4 years ago

University of Wisconsin, Madison confirmed findings of elemental distributions in unusual structures of which they had not observed before in their experience and had no ready explanation for.

The whiskers growing from the organic crystal-like structures were seen to have differing elements from the bulk which was confirmed to be pure Titanium with very little oxygen.

Additionally, it appeared that more may have grown since the last analysis by the MFMP. In addition, no Chrome was observed in whisker bases that were able to be analysed in the time available, which may mean that there was none in those particular ones looked at or that the chrome in them had progressed to Fe or Ni. Other elements indicated beyond Fe and Ni were As and Rb not indicated during MFMP testing.

https://drive.google.com/op...

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Bob Greenyer • 4 years ago

In the above Gif, you can clearly see in the BSE image, the heavier elements at the base of the whisker blending to the Carbon forming the majority of its length.

georgehants • 4 years ago

Morning Bob, did the Wisconsin guys say they where going to pass on the information to the appropriate people at the university?

Bob Greenyer • 4 years ago

They asked keenly if they could publish/share the images and data - I replied "of course, that is the point of open research, share wherever you want".

They really were shocked - was a fascinating process to watch a group of people go from complete scepticism (with the usual masked sniggers in at least one case) to going 'huh' and putting on that confused, really intrigued face.

It really helped that I had had a few weeks with the sample, first looking on Nurugo within hours, sharing, then on the Digital optical microscope, then sharing, then on Alan Goldwater's SEM for HOURS, then sharing - I could be sure of what was there and where. I was surprised to see that it appeared the number of whiskers had increased and the material may be synthesising heavier elements as time goes by - not only does the amorphous 'crystal-ike' pure Titanium structures look organic, they seam alive.

georgehants • 4 years ago

Bob, did they mention anything about giving due credit if they do publish?

Bob Greenyer • 4 years ago

This stuff is interesting, but the other stuff on this sample and the stuff on the 2%Th/W rod and 0.75um Indium foil are far more significant.

The important thing is this gets out of there.

georgehants • 4 years ago

O Bob, I will need some time to absorb and appreciate your reply, Wonderful, I will be going for lunch soon, two glasses of Red today I think.

Bob Greenyer • 4 years ago

By the way, this is not the most interesting aspect of this sample IMHO. Having seen 'perfect' crystals form in LION and Hutchison and other samples, this was not so surprising - but this sample has wonderful evidence of macro-level transmutation, large scale fission and fusion and/or nucleon exchange. This was what really was hard to accept for the nuclear scientist in the room. I said "don't believe your lying eyes - go back and read a textbook where you can reassure yourself these things are not possible".

Roseland67 • 4 years ago

Bob,
That reply was maybe a little “harsh”?
Of course I am going to pirate it

Thomas Kaminski • 4 years ago

I concur with Bob's analysis of the staff looking at the sample. I and another IEEE/UW-Faculty member were present during the SEM time. The staff are very experienced researchers who have looked at a host of samples, both mineral and organic. Until this sample, the most interesting thing they had imaged was an ant that had calcium carbonate crystals growing on its back as "armor" against other ant species.

They kept asking questions like "now how did you quench the heated metal?" I had to show them Bob's sample collection video where the "explosion" occurred. All of the material was created in that instant.

Curbina • 4 years ago

That is perhaps the most amazing fact of these images, that a seemingly chaotic event could result in such ordered features.

Axil Axil • 4 years ago

This order comes from the nature of atomic structure. Crystallization comes from the nature of how like atoms interact.

Curbina • 4 years ago

Indeed, but this happened out of a sort of explosion, crystals tend to form on still conditions

JohnOman • 4 years ago

What I'm gathering from Bob is that these crystals may still be growing today. Perhaps they didn't appear instantly at the explosive event but developed slowly (relative to explosively) over time. ???

Axil Axil • 4 years ago

Nanotubes can form in an explosion

Catalytic growth of carbon nanotubes through CHNO explosive detonation

Yi Lu, Zhenping Zhu *, Zhenyu Liu State Key Laboratory of Coal Conversion, Institute of Coal Chemistry, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Taiyuan 030001, PR China Received 7 April 2003; accepted 4 November 2003

Abstract
Multi-walled carbon nanotubes (CNTs) have been efficiently synthesized by a self-heating detonation process, operated at low loading densities of picric acid (PA), which acts as the explosive to provide needed high temperatures and parts of carbon sources.Paraffin or benzene provides additional carbon source for tube assembling and hydrogen source to capture oxygen in PA to form H2O and thus to survive some carbon species from oxidation. Cobalt nanoparticles, in situ formed from a detonation-assisted decomposition and reduction of cobalt acetate, show good catalytic activity for nanotube nucleation and growth and for disproportionation reaction of CO generated from the PA detonation. The nanotubes and catalyst particles are characterized by SEM,TEM, EDX, SAED, XRD, and Raman spectroscopy techniques. Some tubes are well crystallized but others have lots of structural defects, especially for the tubes with thin walls and bamboo-like shapes. The catalyst particles show conical shapes and exhibit a fcc crystalline structure of parent cobalt. These data also experimentally show that tube growth is at a very high rate and suggest that it is possible for a large-scale synthesis of CNTs under high-density and high-pressure conditions.
Thomas Kaminski • 4 years ago

Apparently a carbon-arc technique is also used for the synthesis of carbon nanotubes. See here:

https://www.researchgate.ne...

Bob Greenyer • 4 years ago

I will have a glass of red later also.

Roseland67 • 4 years ago

Had 2 last night in Madrid, Españia,
(Ernest Hemingway never ate here)

Thomas Kaminski • 4 years ago

Bob's talk for the "Replicators Workshop" went well. He then got time on the University of Wisconsin Geology Departments SEM to confirm the Titanium/OHMASA Gas. Three Geology faculty were amazed.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/s...

Jag Kaurah • 4 years ago

Great, thank you. When do we see it all?

Bob Greenyer • 4 years ago

Unfortunately the quality is not so good, and is across two recordings, a partial audio recording and because of the lighting and wide-angled lenses - it will need a bit of editing - I will put in the slides as overlays and put in myself off to one side - that way it will be far easy to follow.

I will post images from the UW department in a few minutes before I go to bed, full set to follow later After I have finished layout of posters for the conference.

Roseland67 • 4 years ago

Congrats Bob,

Will U of W present or publicize the data to other universities or labs in any sort of follow up to your good work there?

Thomas Kaminski • 4 years ago

Bob and I both recorded the evening presentation. Bob has my recordings and his recordings. I will let him edit and post it, but my recordings are available as a back up if for some reason he cannot post his. TomR also attended and recorded a portion of the "Replicators Workshop". Bob welcomed him to record it and he can post it if he so chooses.

Bob will also post the UW's complete SEM/EDS analysis when he gets a chance.

TomR • 4 years ago

I recorded the workshop/roundtable at Sector 67. I used my cell phone camera and it took a large amount of time to get it off the camera and onto a USB memory stick. I am sending a copy of the USB memory stick to Tom Kaminski tomorrow (Monday) morning. The raw video looks very good to me. Bob Greenyer answered every question that was asked. Thank you so much for coming to Wisconsin Bob!

Curbina • 4 years ago

We are all waiting for that video :D !!!

TomR • 4 years ago

Tom should have it Wednesday, tomorrow, my wife, Dee Dee, sent it out yesterday. Sorry about how long it took to get it to Tom Kaminski. As it came off my phone/camera it was over 10 GB's, and it was split into 4 separate videos. From past experience with posting videos on facebook I know it takes a huge amount of time to post even a small video.

LION • 4 years ago

Great News, thanks for the update.

artefact • 4 years ago

Nice!

Teppo • 4 years ago

Thank you for the update, GO BOB!

LION • 4 years ago
LION • 4 years ago

Wishing BOB and all the attendies at the IEEE a great meeting today and that the talk is well received at the University this afternoon.
A big THANKS to Thomas Kaminsk for organising these meetings.

LION • 4 years ago

Heavy water needed for cold fusion research:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/...

seems like a worthy cause.
I am sure the good people at the IEEE meeting will take note.

LION • 4 years ago
Karl Venter • 4 years ago

I would like to understand the following
Le Claire gets transmutaion with only cavitation -- Ohmasa also gets transmutation on the plates with cavitation
What makes the Ohmasa gas -- imploding jets shock wave in the water affecting the size of the electrolysis bubbles /gas
I am not sure where the EVO are created/appear - seems it must be in the cavitation /imploding bubble
Please help

Bob Greenyer • 4 years ago

Hi Karl, What I am seeing on the SEM/EDS right now is MINDBLOWING... I keep having to change my presentation! I should be asleep!

Pretty sure now that Ohmasa Gas is LENR in a can!

Karl Venter • 4 years ago

You cant leave it there Bob

TomR • 4 years ago

If Thomas Kaminsky and Bob Greenyer will allow it, I will try to video when Bob talks about OHMASA Gas and take pictures of any slides on OHMASA Gas. If allowed and they turn out OK I will attempt to post them tomorrow night (Wednesday) or Thursday.

Thomas Kaminski • 4 years ago

It is up to Bob, but he and I have discussed recording his presentations. We are going to try to do so.

TomR • 4 years ago

Thank you Thomas, I will ask tomorrow. If you are going to record and make it available, I won't record, I am kind of shaky!

Bob Greenyer • 4 years ago

And the Parkhomov tables put the observed ash as the reactions most likely!

Cool

Bob Greenyer • 4 years ago

Ok, the particles caught in the filter appear to confirm it - yippee!