xyz

April 6, 2019 at 8:26 PM

Watching
http://www.ecatskdemo.com
I noticed that it seems to be ready for a massive production, also for
domestic use, especially if you will be able to make both heat and
electricity. It will be a global game changer.
Are you not afraid of it?

Andrea Rossi

April 7, 2019 at 10:26 AM

xyz:
Yes, it could be.
No, I am not.
Warm Regards,
A.R

Dear Andrea,
1. Can you give us some comment on your investigations on the direct electricity production of the Ecat?
2. Are you happy with the sales of heat so far?
3. Is the production of the E-Cat heat-plants satisfactory?
4. Are your customers, using your heat, still satisfied?

5. Have you still time to play tennis with your wife?
I really do hope things are going well. Good luck to you and your team.!
Thanks. Kind regards, Gerard

Andrea Rossi

April 6, 2019 at 10:18 AM

Gerard McEk:
1- it is premature, I will have precise ideas within June, based on the scheduling of our work on it
2- yes
3- yes
4- yes
5- yes !
Thank you for your kind attention to the work of our Team,
Warm Regards,
A.R

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

NEW QUANTUM HEAT PRODUCT!!!

COULD PUT AN END TO GLOBAL WARMING

EVERY 1,000,000 units purchased could extend life on earth by 1 year!

PERFECT FOR TENTING IN THE DESERT!

Note: as this is a inter-dimensional product, it only works in parallel. https://uploads.disquscdn.c...

Ice block not included.

This is -way beyond ice-

Its just a phase.

Yes

It’s the first of April. Thanks Bob, this is the ideal location for such a joke.

Thanks Bob,
Frankly I'm a bit in awe of this. It's real right? It will take time to wrap my mind around the technology... Ya'll have taken me by surprise with this product offering, not as if you haven't given us hints. What else do yous n your'n have up your sleeves?

Discovery

It’s of great use to wonder
Why our minds wander
In awe of it all

Being forever true (honest scientist)
Seeking the new

We are just now discovering
That which has always been

Impatiently awaiting us
Craving our keen attention
Hoping for deeper understanding

Awesome is
The wonder of discovery

And the power
Of awe

It's amazing really, all credit must go to Alan Goldwater, he read some comments on Vortex mailing list and BAM, shazam - a real 'lightbulb' moment, he did say that he had to disable setting 11 (only now goes up to 10 now) since on setting 11, the whole unit can just randomly disappear when left unattended only to reappear at your formerly jealous neighbours house who says he really really bought his own one and that the serial number being the same is just a manufacturing anomaly.

If it were real, they would be recipients of this air conditioning innovation award;
https://newatlas.com/branso...

What if their could be some truth to this story?

Hmm, I wonder if we have just seen the deployment of a new tactic - what we might call the "weaponizing" of April the First. Traditionally, an April Fool's leg-pull only requires a moment's thought or fact-checking to reveal itself to be obviously just a joke.

But here, in the "safe" fast breeder reactor and the cool-the-world air-conditioner stories, there are enough grains of truth to give us pause.

So are these and others "Trojan Horse" stories - ones designed to get the public used to the idea of devices that "they" want to foist on it?

Where does excess heat come from?

What if you could give it back?

There has actually been serious R&D in passive cooling. It would be very useful for preserving medications in parts of the undeveloped countries. However, as far as I'm aware, nothing has been achieved beyond a couple degrees Fahrenheit variance. It definitely wont replace conventional refrigeration.

Beam me over Scottie...

There are no customers. We will get more "confidential" bullshit and after some time AR will announce yet another version of E-CAT (Ecat "SF" Sergio Foccardi) that makes electricity directly and the tech will need about a year to finish "development". The cycle will continue...

"The cycle will continue." Do you really think so? The new situation is that Rossi claims now that a new industry has been started. Everybody with some sanity will realize that it is not possible to do this secretly. So I think Rossis credibility wil now experience rapid decline. He received much trust, but now his time is over.

New fission is going to be very competitive soon.

https://uploads.disquscdn.c...

DOE Funds 2022 First Demo for Factory Mass Producible Nuclear Power

Uranium/Thorium core, Manufactured and installed in less than 1 month, process heat up to 1050ºK, 25-MWe

https://www.nextbigfuture.c...

Alternatively, we could convert all the waste nuclear fuel into 239Pu - what could possibly go wrong?

https://twitter.com/subschn...

https://www.theguardian.com...

Hi Bob, I couldn’t find it would burn Thorium or Uranium or both. If uranium, then it would probably need higher enrichment grades >6%U235, I would guess. The whole cycle and lifetime and reuse of the nuclear and non-nuclear part would be interesting to know.

On the schematic it says UN-ThN Fuel (See bottom left).

Thorium HAS to have a neutron source to work, most people forget this when they go on about how wonderful Th reactors are. The U provides the n

Thanks Bob. Quite interesting. Nitrogen needs to be enriched to N15 only, otherwise C14 is being produced.

There will be radioactive by products which will still have to be dealt with. In the scheme of things C14 is not too bad, its bio-toxicity is very low despite the high energy of the betas (up to 156 keV, weighted mean 49keV) due to the approx 5,750 year half life when compared to the approximately 30 year half life of both 90Sr and 137Cs (which will both be present in the ash of these reactors).

One of the big gains with a device like this is that it halves the amount of nuclear waste produced per MWe used because of the removal of transmission line losses.

Bob,

There are other sources of energy beyond LENR.

Involves transfering Quantum Field Energy from one field to another.

Casimir to the max!

Thanks E48, posting this interesting micro-reactor new fission tech is also demonstration of another energy choice other than LENR. Specifically, if the order to delivery is <1 month and power is 25 MWe this is hugely competitive with many other solutions and the bulk of the Unit would be underground.

My interest is in dealing with the waste.

Given that it is 1st April, can you provide suppliers of the QFE?

Interesting idea -- I like the small, factory produced idea. However, there is still the security costs of siting the reactor given that it will contain hazardous nuclear material. I doubt that it will be able to be widely deployed for "off grid" use. Also, the operating staffing (80 people per GWe is higher than gas turbine peaking plants. It might solve the nuclear spent fuel problem.

What will the left side of this chart look like in a few
years?

https://flowcharts.llnl.gov...

I have always found the LLNL flow chart interesting. Here's the 2017 chart:

https://flowcharts.llnl.gov...

The 2018 chart should be posted sometime this month...

Between 10th and 17th March, Germany got 72.6% of its electricity from
renewable energy resources. Did someone just say "baseload power?" Renew Economy
https://reneweconomy.com.au...

Yes, Germany may be champion of renewables, but what often is forgotten is that despite that they weren’t able to lower the CO2 exhaust since their efforts started. Reason is that they also abandoned nuclear energy and that their very polluting brown coal plants had to cover for those periods that wind- nor sun energy were sufficiently available.
When you really want to make the difference and stop CO2 exhaust, then nuclear energy is the only solution! Hopefully it can be LENR, but otherwise fission reactors (Uranuim or better Thorium). Even then I doubt we will be able to stop global warming, unless LENR really works.

"they weren’t able to lower the CO2"
Give them some time, they abandoned nuke for good reasons,replacing CO2 by Pu is not a solution...

Pu can be used a thorium Molten Salt Reactor. Clearly, that kind of reactor requires some development. In the meanwhile we should store if for future usage, but still use nuclear power as much as we can and so reduce the exhaust of CO2. There is enough thorium to feed the total world need for energy for many thousands of years. The thorium cycle doesn’t produce Pu, ‘only’ 500 years of waste radiation, but that’s probably manageable.
But obviously I would prefer LENR. Let us hope that it comes soon.

https://about.bnef.com/blog...

Lowering battery costs make renewable energy more competitive

https://thinkprogress.org/r...

The rapidly dropping cost of renewable energy has upended energy economics in recent years, with new solar and wind plants now significantly cheaper than coal power.

But new research shows another major change is afoot: The cost of batteries has been declining so unexpectedly rapidly that renewables plus battery storage are now cheaper than even natural gas plants in many applications, according to a report released this week by Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF).

BNEF analyzed pricing data from almost 7,000 power projects in 46 countries that span 20 energy technologies, including coal, gas, nuclear, battery storage, solar photovoltaics (PV), and wind.

They report that electricity prices “for onshore wind, solar PV and offshore wind have fallen by 49 percent, 84 percent and 56 percent respectively since 2010.” Costs for lithium-ion battery storage have dropped 76 percent since 2012 — and plunged 35 percent in the past year alone.

https://youtu.be/DquKi28Lwmo

Still I do not believe that wind and solar energy can suffice the worlds need for energy. There are even reports that large scale wind energy production may alter local climate considerably. Also, for the time being I do not see the price of energy storage sufficiently decreasing to make overcoming a winter period economically feasible.
Let us just hope for LENR, Axil!

Wind and solar are installed at app 150GW/year.
And it still has to increase significantly, to make a real difference. How fast do you think/ hope LENR cold be upscaled? Rossi is now in the low number MW range. When he presented his ECat in 2011, I have hoped for a fast transition of LENR to the mainstream (WIKIPEDIA?) but still only a very few people know anything about this.

Rossi says he has some MWth operational at customers now. Since 1/31/2019 he was able to produce these in his new E-cat factory. Not bad for a first start-up. I think that E-cats are easier to produce, and surely to intstall than windmills. Upscaling his automated factory should be a piece of cake, technically. The main problem is the cash flow of his product. He needs to pre-invest a lot to get the train running full steam, using his Heat delivery model. That is why he needs a financially strong partner. Once the money is rolling it will go very fast, I believe.

Hi Gerard,

Battery storage changes wind & solar. Makes it dispatchable on demand plus adds peak/droop/freq control that hydro can't match.

In the longer term, with the development of an updated electrical grid infrastructure and better electrical storage, solar and wind could suffice. It was too bad that the German decommissioning of Nuclear Plants led to increased carbon dioxide, but the non-zero probability of a massive nuclear event might have led to more carbon generation for the clean-up. Fear after Fukushima (and the earlier Chernobyl event plus Three Mile Island) made it politically necessary to act. Will the Fukushima clean up cost more in carbon generation than the plant would have saved? I don't know.

I worked in the Nuclear sector, Thomas. I was in Germany when Fukushima happened and the anti nuclear power hype inflamed in Germany. The media took everything out of their context and made the 1000’s of deaths in Fukushima the responsibility of the nuclear sector (‘only’ one died due to a nuclear cause). Many of my German colleagues lost dear friends. When looking to the deathrate, the nuclear sector is by far the lowest, compared to wind, solar, water, oil and gas (per GWh).
But I agree, Fukushima shouldn’t have happened and the cost of clean up is tremendous. Let’s go for LENR!

Although the nuclear power death rate is currently low, the problem I have is that one significant event (say Indian Point on the Hudson) could have killed a huge number of people. Though the probability it low, the calculation of that probability is based on fault tree analysis. Every time a new significant nuclear event happens, the report is "well we didn't consider that". What other problems are lurking in the "did not consider" category?

I do look more favorably on the new reactor designs, because as Bob Greenyer states, they do not support a chain reaction and require a source of neutrons to work. Also, they can use "spent" fuel, reducing the nuclear waste pile radioactive longevity from 100,000's of years to a mere millenia. This means that they can solve both the waste and clean energy problem at once. Further, when you consider the "nuclear death" problem, you have to include the cost of mining and processing the ore and dealing with the long-term effects of the waste in the calculation. We are not totally sure of those. Mining and processing nuclear fuel is still probably lower in death count than mining coal and health effects of burning coal. Using the "spent fuel" means you do not have to mine more uranium (and we are running out of sources of uranium, too).

Uranium ore comes from hard rock mines, the safest category, and, generally, employ a high degree of robotization which dramatically lowers the man hour to tonnage ration, which also favors safety.

Under ground coal mines fall into the worst safety category in all of mining.

The radiation level at the perimeter fence around a US reactor is set well below that of standing on a granite outcrop, also very safe.

Output to fuel cost ratios at nuclear plants are very good.

Sequestering the waste in glass at the bottom of a deep mine, such as the Sudbury Ontario mile deep nickle mine (the result of a meteor impact into the most stable geology on the planet), has been suggested as a solution to the waste storage problem; it has merit from a technical perspective and something has to be done regardless of whether more plants are commissioned or not.

The reasons that more nuclear plants in America is a dead issue are: brutal lead times, horrendous capital costs, very long construction and commissioning times, substantial political resistance and the absolutely crushing costs of completely decommissioning a plant. Wind and solar have won the economic argument hands down, they accounted for 62% of new power brought online in 2017 and their costs are still going down by the month while nuclear costs have grown astronomically for over five decades..

All in all Ecats look like a pretty good idea.

I believe all deaths of the calc’s I saw included the whole chain. The reason that it is so low is that the nuclear industry has to comply with very high safety standards. It is far more controlled than the other sectors.
I agree that using Thorium is the best way forward. It produces far less long living nuclear waste and indeed it can probably be made inherently safe. Besides that, there is enough thorium to supply all the needed energy in the world for thousands of years.

The same attitude, of "not getting in trouble" (as stated by Gerrit Kroessen re his tests of the Hydrino/Suncell setup) with established physics, will hold back open involvement in ANYTHING new. The old guard will just have to die off, before the new crop of physicists wil be bold enough to publish anything supportive of the new physics. So, another 10-20 years for the new to start taking hold in society.

I hope it goes more quickly. When Andrea or Mills get an official conformation of a respectable company that MWh have been delivered while using only kWh, there is hardly room for ignorance, wouldn’t you think?

https://reneweconomy.com.au...

New Brillouin Energy video

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

I don't understand this video. It remind me a chinese PR videos about their chinese cryptos. Some colours, some moves and nothing substantial.

Yes, it's a PR video... Investors are shown substance after NDA.
Substance is found in control, the ability to turn on and off hundreds of times, and consistent production of over unity usable heat. LENR energy market entry by quite a large number of players along many fronts. Understanding of condensed matter nuclear science is advancing at an exponential rate. Open source science and high levels of cooperative transparency increases this. Certain disclosure plays a role. Unknown advanced players patents will continue to become exposed; revealing their team, skills, resources, and methodology.