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Aliens should be DEPORTED !!!
aliens includes immigrants not yet naturalized and green card spouses of citizens, etc. Perhaps you are thinking of illegal aliens?
Any person in the US beyond the expiration of their visa is here illegally. That includes your not yet naturalized and anchored spouses. One reason so many anti-US sanctuary cities and states have cropped up is to protect those immigration law-breakers from ICE deportation as much as to protect illegal border jumpers. Coming to the US on a visa-free passport should likewise not be abused like it is for illegal residency in the US. So, your Irish, English, Dutch, Senegalese, Indian, Taiwanese spouses, gardeners, maids, au pairs, tutors, nannies all need to go after 6 months of squatting in the US. We just had a census that is a lie based on the supposed population of the US being 330 million residents. The lie is the census ignored the 40 million illegal residents living in the US primarily from Europe, Canada and south of the US border. That's 370 million people in the US and growing while natural Americans pursue a declining birthrate of currently 1.6 per woman. The US like Europe is committing suicide by self-loathing anti-nationalist, aka globalist, ideologies.
a green card is forever and now 10 year renewable unless you commit a felony
Most labor contract visas are for as long as the job exists. If you want to change employers they have to apply for a work visa for you. If you are a contract employee the length of the contract determines the length of the visa and many are 18 months to two years.
And most who have a green card have no real intention of becoming naturalized. The green card should be issued for the 7 year period for naturalization and then expire. Once naturalized they do not need a green card so why is it for life and/or even renewable as you say? Just more bad law from congress? Any work visa should be mandatory renewable every 6 months and return to their native country while awaiting renewal approval. America is not a honey pot for all the migrant pooh bears you think are out there. Period.
No, actually this case is a good example of the absolute failures of the Fed. Guberment to do their job. Congress wrote the law, the law was signed by a POTUS and the Feds. could not even follow the directions in the contents of the law. I do agree however that all those here illegally should be deported and those who are hear on the green card, work visa ect. who break our laws should be sent back home post haste.
This is exactly right. The decision comes out of a highly charged issue, but the Supreme Court is right: "Hey, feds, you wrote the damn laws, follow them."
10 years. Should be 10 days!
Should be 10 minutes. You set one foot on our soil illegally, then poof, out you go. Not hard to understand. Illegal is illegal. The BS being peddled needs to be stopped.
NO!!!!!! You want them to be protected from deportation because they have been here a mere ten days????
Since when do illegal aliens have any Constitu
tional rights? Was not our Constitution written
for Legal Citizens? Illegals should have been
stopped at the border, there would be no need
for anything involving "notice to appear." (Sr.)
Maybe YOU should actually read the document. Read the preamble. It says "we the people OF THE UNITED STATES". It does not say "of the world". If you are not OF the United States (a foreigner and alien to the United States), then the Constitution does NOT apply to you. Just read it. It's right there in plain English.
It also says "...and secure the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to OURSELVES and OUR posterity....."
The Constitution does NOT apply to anyone who does not have a legal status that gives them formal membership as part OF the United States.
Well, yes and no.
It does not apply in totality, but it does provide that even foreigners have due process and certain other rights.
You noted the flaw in your own argument. Foreign officials are one, specific sub-classification of those person to whom citizenship cannot be extended. Illegal aliens is the larger class. Illegal aliens only have the right to be deported.
It does not apply to any illegal alien or foreigner residing in our country, however, we grant those protections out of courtesy. However, now we have people who broke our laws, parading in our streets with their nation's flag, and telling us we must accommodate them. Time to get on with kicking out anyone who runs around with their nations flag demanding things from us. Because that is an invader and not a person running from oppression looking for a better life.
The 14th gives nothing to foreign invaders. Change my mind please.
Invaders don't need uniforms or weapons, a burglar invades my home without such. Unwelcome unlawful entry is invasion.
Feel invited to change my mind here.
1: Constitution
2: Statutes written subservient thereto
3: Treaties written subservient thereto
4: Opinions of Courts subservient thereto.
As I've understood reading the 14th and the ratification debates, NO CONSIDERATION was ever undertaken concerning t he 14th giving anything to a foreign (illegal)
invader.
Exactly. The 14th Amendment was written to give citizenship to African slaves who had been here for decades. It has NOTHING to do with foreigners who break into this country. Those slaves were brought here against their will by AMERICAN citizens. There are none of those slave people alive today, so there is no longer any need for the 14th Amendment. It should actually be removed at this point.
People breaking into this country or bringing in their children illegally are COMMITTING CRIMES against this country. The only right and legal thing to do is to DEPORT them. You do NOT reward criminal acts, and yes, even children who benefit from criminal acts do NOT get to keep the goods. ALL people who entered this country illegally need to be DEPORTED!!
The 14th amendment makes states responsible to federal law. We can’t get rid of it. You are correct in the origin of it, but it still serves a purpose beyond its initial reason. However, 14th amendment certainly does not apply in this case the people who break into the country
"Within its jurisdiction," means only citizens. Illegal aliens are subject to the jurisdiction of their country of origin. When deported, they are returned to the country that has jurisdiction over them. Illegal aliens are precisely as that title depicts, as they are not subject to our jurisdiction and must be returned immediately to their country of origin.
Anybody within a given state's boundaries is subject to its jurisdiction and must obey its laws both criminal and civil. People in the country illegally cannot get away with arson, robbery, or murder, any more than citizens can.
"Jurisdiction" has meanings, not just the simplistic one you favor. If you, or I, for example, travel to another country, yes we must obey it's laws. However, we are still under the United States' jurisdiction, legally. If you commit a crime the American Embassy becomes involved. If deported, you are sent back to the USA, since you are under its jurisdiction. We do not acquire the rights of a citizen just by traveling to another country.
In your misunderstanding of legal jurisdiction, a burglar, by the act of illegally entering your home, has obtained equal legal status as you. After all is considered, the burglar, using your logic, has acquired jurisdiction within your domicile. Is that really what you wish to have happen, a thief now controlling your house under your jurisdiction?
That is true, they are held to the legal jurisdiction... but for the purposes of citizenship and the Fourteenth Amendment , 'Subject to the jurisdiction thereof' is a different jurisdiction. It means the total and complete jurisdiction, meaning no other allegiance to any other nation.
Those here illegally are still subject to the jurisdiction of the nation of their citizenship, and they are not without foreign allegiance.
Keep it in context, man. The Constitution is written for the people OF THE UNITED STATES. That means it does NOT apply (any portion of it) to FOREIGNERS.
Not an argument. Doesn't hold an ounce of water.
Nice try. You're just making a bigger fool of yourself. Read the actual Constitution. You might actually learn something.
The key word there is jurisdiction.
Now look up the meaning of "person" as used in the Constitution. It's not the same meaning as used by us folk-in-the-internet-street. For comparison, look at the word "militia": in the Constitution it means all of us citizens bearing arms in defense of our country; in statute it means a select group called the National Guard.
Wrong. The actual precedent for extending legal rights to illegal aliens came as a minority foootnote in a case concerning a Chinese illegal immigrant, The clue to their status is shown in the depiction, "illegal alien." Such a person is wrongfully present and is not a part of the citizenry of the United States. This seems a difficult concept for too many folks such as yourself.
Maybe you should read the document? Many ignore the first sentence of the Amendment.
"All persons born or naturalized...and subject to the JURISDICTION THEREOF, are CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES..."
"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges and immunities of CITIZENS of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any PERSON of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor deny any PERSON within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the law."
A "person" has equal rights of due process of the law.
A "citizen" has all privileges and immunities within the jurisdiction.
They tend to forget the 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof', and the debates for ratification included the basic fact that it would NOT give citizenship to foreigners.
Please cite the case?
Nice try; but "his mother and father were domiciled residents" and he was born in this country. They were not illegal aliens who committed criminal acts by avoiding legal border crossing. He was and had been a long term legal resident at the time of the case.
This is the "anchor baby" ruling!
It was a wrong decision.
His parents were still Chinese subjects of the Emperor...
The court ruled based on the fact his parents resided in the US and he had previously been allowed to return from another trip outside of the nation.
Then the term ILLEGAL, (not legal, not valid) is a meaningless term for an illegal alien. Correct, should read it ALL, maybe more than once in a lifetime. Thanks for the great advice.
Have a Great rest of your week & weekend ahead.
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Mob justice prevails in the US and no court or jury will be brave enough to say NO.
A roman catholic, jesuit trained, vatican controlled court decicing to wheter boot roman catholic invaders from the south... ha!
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Bingo. What'd the ole witch say? "What difference at this point does it make!?" Yeah, I think that's what she said.
The feds mail out quick step does not just occur with immigration notice. It could occur with tax audits.
True, and based on the garbage passed by the Legislature it is correct... but, the law is wrong.
An ILLEGAL ALIEN does not stop being an ILLEGAL ALIEN by 10 years presence.
this was decided on a technicality basically....
One Deportation Order delivered at ONE time with ALL information as opposed to the idiotic notices done over the 10 yrs the man had been here ILLEGALLY....
and this is why THEY SHOULD NEVER BE RELEASED into the USA... 80% NEVER show up or are found after ignoring their Notice to Appear....97% of all Asylum cases are DENIED....
So WHY are we letting them stay when we KNOW that they shouldn't be here in the first place?? Send them BACK and force them to apply in HOME COUNTRY for Asylum and Legal Entry...or simply CATCH and DEPORT immediately
Blah blah blah it's all a bunch of bull crap. The supreme court is wasting time quibbling over documents while idly letting our rights be trampled while our country is invaded by illegals.