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Wow. Truth and logic.
"It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes."
Somebody's gonna get cancelled real quick!
He's probably all for them now, and will call you an idiot for questioning their veracity.
From John f'n Oliver of all people!
Yes. Did it slip out by accident? I've been critical, well more than critical, let's say completely objecting to the use of electronic voting machines for years. As somebody who worked in the tech industry, I realized that there is a belief in the minds of average people, that machines are objective and impersonal and cannot lie or make mistakes. Have you ever challenged somebody when there's an obvious data entry error and they rigidly stick by whatever the machine says versus what you're trying to tell them actually was the situation? Belief in the machine is almost a belief in an infallible oracle. Obviously data can be corrupted and falsified as anybody who has had their accounts hacked should realize. So voting systems that rely on electronics without some form of physical verification are subject to fraud, and any counting system that does not have oversight and is completely hidden from view electronically or otherwise is also subject to fraud or to quote Stalin, it's not who votes it's who counts the votes. Fraud in voting machines has been going on for decades. Even the very old paper punch systems used in the 40s through 80s could be gotten around by simply having certain precincts non-functional during the day and not tell the voters their votes would not be counted. I experienced this frequently in Philadelphia when I lived in a section of the city that did not like the mayor.
We need to bottle and contain everything they say and view it as part of an aimless thought sequence used solely for showing hypocrisy.
It'll be great use outside the legal processes...
But few people will see it...
Which makes your point about preserving and organizing content the media will never show, before it's unavailable, is so spot-on...
Yes because when she lost Shillary was complaining about everything but the voting machines, so he waited until she was done to bring it up as a topic on his show after the subject entered the discourse and he had all this flexibility to be an outlier. If we agreed during the apolitical time he would suddenly see it as political and delete it/apologize like Stephen Colbert and his homophobic implications. The best is to make them gaslight their audience that they didn't mean X for all those years.
Meanwhile, there is no proof of widespread journalism in America.
The 2020 election is invalid, plain and simple. If this election is allowed to stand the American republic is ended.
Hiden was illegitimately selected.
His point is that a paper trail is mandatory to even come close to a clean election. He is actually right. This time.
The best system though is still the paper ballot with the bubble to fill in, and then that is run through a scanner. The ballots are retained, and can be re-scanned if needed.
There would need to be some enhancements for security, but they could be done. It would then be far more secure than the electronic systems that can be accessed remotely. Possibly a bar code ID number that becomes part of the scanned record would prevent the multiple scans.
Where I vote it was this system, fill in the bubble for your vote and then a scanner reads the completed ballot.
Bingo. There was only one way to get Biden elected.
Where is FBI (Feckless Bureau of Imbeciles) and DOJ (Department of Jerkoffs) on election fraud ???
Read the Constitution. States hold jurisdiction and power over elections.
Not fraud over election, IMBECILE...
Wait! - Massive Democratic RINO election fraud!! - Trump will win. FYI TUCKER is now owned, DE-flowered, and penetrated- by ANTIFA, FOX and Democratic Party. Stay away. Noticed strange trend with Tucker acting weird since UPS Hunter Biden story - which he was backing away from. Tucker was quite disgusting this week. Picking on a brilliant and courageous woman Sidney Powell !
God Bless Donald Trump!
He was right. This election is so obviously stolen it's pathetic. Even dems should be pissed, if they weren't anti American traitors.
A senile-racist-pedophile old guy no one wanted and a political gold-digging wh___ no one liked,completely believable.
Actually some of the whistleblowers Sidney Powell has affidavits from are democrats who are pissed.
Play that clip back to Oliver while he's live on the air and he'd either deny he ever said it or create some illogical explanation of why that no longer is an issue.
I sincerely doubt he would try to deny it.
don't bet on it. it'll be "out of context" or some such horsesh---.
Lefty does that all the time - deny things they have said even when its on video - look at Biden and countless lefty pols.
Bet he's not saying that now.
Seriously? This pathetic excuse for a human being doesn't care if ballots are on toilet paper as long as democrooks win.
Republican Congress had 2 years to prioritize voter ID. Useless Paul Ryan Congress failed on this, on big tech social media censorship and Obamacare. Result: this fraud-filled 2020 disaster was guaranteed.
Yep, much of our current troubles are traced directly back to the pathetic and feckless RINO, Paul Ryan.
Paul Ryan the FNC Board of Trustees RINO...
The left will embrace these machines with renewed lust if they can successfully steal this election.
and mail in voting.
Next time it will be internet voting, totally secure. /s
Anyone who knows anything about software and computers knows that conducting an election with them is a joke.
WT...John Oliver is making sense. Did he miss a day of drinking Kool-aid?
It seems like honest, verifiable elections would be supported by all political parties, but they aren't... Hmmmm.
There have been articles and studies for years. In my opinion, these types of opinions leading up to 2020 were laying the groundwork in case Trump won. They could call him illegitimate and claim he cheated. They could spend 4 years investigating him. Remember criticism of Trump over being told foreign actors wanted to interfere but Trump would not take it seriously bc he needed their help to win?
Funny how when Biden wins, no problem, everything secure. Kind of like the Dan Akroyd/Emily L bits on SNL - “Never mind.”
Analog voting machines. No more digital!
Why have machines at all? We have until Jan. 20 to seat new winners. What is the rush? Old fashioned hand counting may take longer but it is more secure with proper oversight. We can wait a few days or even weeks if it means honest elections. Networks will just not be calling winners before votes are all tabulated and certified. It is not a horse race and shouldn't be treated as such. Hold your tickets, please, we have a photo finish. We need voter ID and that number matched to each vote.
You're right. Any machine is corruptible. Hand counting with verified observers from both parties is totally doable.
people act like it's impossible to count 100 million+ votes, but it's not at all. it can be easily done precinct by precinct, then all it takes is an adding machine. the old-fashioned kind, with the paper tape.
The thing is precincts are small. A dozen people could each count a few thousand votes in 12 hours. x20000 precincts it is done. It's distributive computing.
Yep it is call paper and pencil. Work fine for nearly 200 years. Counting results we faster back in the day too.
John Oliver is a dickhead
I like the heads on dickzz, he's more the scruffy smelly balls.
Hay, Hay all you shift for brains!
“Federal Statute Law Title 52 USC 20511: Criminal penalties Text containsthose laws in effect on November 9, 2020
Title 52-VOTING AND ELECTIONS SubtitleII-Voting Assistance and Election Administration CHAPTER 205-NATIONALVOTER REGISTRATIONCriminal penaltiesA person, including an election official, who in any election forFederal office-
(1) knowingly and willfully intimidates, threatens, or coerces, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, any person for-(A) registering to vote, or voting, or attempting to register or vote;(B) urging or aiding any person to register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register or vote; exercising any right under this chapter; or(C) exercising any right under this chapter; or
(2) knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts todeprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair andimpartially conducted election process, by-(A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under thelaws of the State in which the election is held; or(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held, shall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."
Good. Now let's see how it is applied.
"HBO’s John Oliver Called It ‘Completely Insane’ to Use Electronic Voting Machines in Nov. 2019"
Wow. A liberal that said something I can agree with.