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sbonney22 • 2 years ago

Notice the correlation to the previous story about the states with the highest booster rates...
Arkansas: 31 percent (38.4%)
New York: 26 percent (44.7%)
Connecticut: 24 percent (50.6%)
Texas: 19 percent (36.5%)
Rhode Island: 18 percent (52.3%)
Kentucky: 11 percent (43.4%)
Vermont: 8 percent (59.2%)
Colorado: 6 percent (50.7%)
Massachusetts: 5 percent (50.2%)

So either the boosters aren't exactly working, or this is the fault of the unvaccinated (ROTL LMAO)

I am not sure how you derive your conclusion. The states with the highest booster rate have the lowest rate of increase in raw Covid numbers. That would imply that the boosters are working and that this is the fault of the unvaccinated. To use your terms.

C Michaels • 2 years ago

You better rethink that champ....and take a look at the most vaccinated country in the World. Israel.

Champ? LMFAO.

Israel is not part of sbonny22's post. So that makes your conclusion irrelevant. AKA a Red Herring.

As for you wishing for my demise, how very small of you.

Nursenotahero • 2 years ago

Israel is not the most vaxed country in the world. Do a Google search.

C Michaels • 2 years ago

Then tell everyone who is ? Don't leave us hanging. And this is from NPR.

Israel was the first country on Earth to fully vaccinate a majority of its citizens against COVID-19. Now it has one of the world's highest daily infection rates — an average of nearly 7,500 confirmed cases a day, double what it was two weeks ago. Nearly one in every 150 people in Israel today has the virus.

Nursenotahero • 2 years ago

Don't get health information from news sites. Your news article is from August 2021. Israel has 66% fully vaccinated. Don't use old news to make health decisions. https://ourworldindata.org/...

EthicalNurse • 2 years ago

Israel WAS one of the most vaxxed countries in the world UNTIL they revised their definition of what "fully vaccinated" is. Now you are considered vaccinated until 6 months from last vaccination. https://corona.health.gov.i.... They are including boosters, etc now so what C. Michaels said here was not incorrect. Israel had over 85% fully vaccinated until the criteria was changed.

Nursenotahero • 2 years ago

Yes, it's important to be working with the most current definition of fully vaccinated. No one would consider themselves fully vaxed against flu if they took a flu vaccine more than a year ago. Updating criteria is essential to keeping health information current. Static info in healthcare is not only dangerous, it's stupid.

C Michaels • 2 years ago

It's important to not use data from an organization funded by Bill Gates...mr vaccine himself.
And the WHO. And changing definitions is real smart too !
https://ourworldindata.org/...

Nursenotahero • 2 years ago

When anyone starts throwing out Bill Gates name like he's a boogie man, I can go ahead and discount their opinion.

Robyn, you are believing the liars. Read the results of the phizer data dumps. So in your logic you believe it sound to believe Bill Gates the virologist, or is he? Whom is a majority owner in Moderna, ADMITTED ugenacist, who released its first product which was the first ever mrna gene therapy that was not tested and where it is proven to be the most deadly ever. Also proven to disable white blood cells, nehj cancer fighting gene function.You are the poster child cognitive dissonance.
https://t.me/Dr_Judy_Mikovi...

Nursenotahero • 2 years ago

I don't know why you or anyone else would listen to Bill Gates. I don't click on conspiracy spam.links.

Beverly Johnson • 1 year ago

You're linking to nut jobs.

Robyn, you should read this document in the link. Look for the pdf, read and step into the light. As i said before, you are dangerously ignorant of thr facts.

https://t.me/GeneralMcInern...

Steve Vilkos • 1 year ago

giving him points for not invoking Soros.....yet

Allie • 2 years ago

A statement doesn't impress a virus. The definition was changes, because immunity wears off or is brushed aside by a variant.

C Michaels • 2 years ago

Yea...use one that's funded by Bill Gates. LOL
Our World in Data is supported by grants from the Quadrature Climate Foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,

Allie • 2 years ago

Your only explanation is...what...that the original vaccine isn't working against all the variants? Duh. We know that. That some countries are geographically located where variants are more likely to spread? What you don't seem to know is Israel has one of the lowest death rates per capita in the world, far lower than the US. Vaccines help mitigate the severity. Then there's the fact that Israel has an excellent reporting system.

C Michaels • 2 years ago

Israel is experiencing higher than normal death rates. This particular gene manipulation shot does not mitigate severity at all. Quit parroting the idiot/shills you see on TV big pharma financed news.

Allie • 2 years ago

What do you mean by a higher than normal death rate? Anyplace that has had COVID deaths has a higher rate. What research supports your assertion that the (which?) vaccines don't work at all? Conspiracy theory blogs aren't research, BTW.

You are dangerously ignorant of the facts; And the
fact that you use the conspiracy theory monicker proves you are brainwashed. The Doctors supporting what CMichaels referred to. Montagnier, Ruggerio, McCullough, Mikovits, Cole, Flemming, Bosch, Malone, Cahill, Tennpenny, Yeadon. The list goes on. The mrna vaxx creates hyperinflammatory spiked proteins proven fact. Virus mutate so the vaxx becomes ineffective. Proven fact. The vaxx is the most deadly in history killing morr then all others combined, proven fact. Adverse reactions like myocarditis, blood clots cancer are being seen like never before and are directly correlated to the experimental gene therapy, proven fact. Death rates gave spiked to 3 and 4 sigma events, that's 200 + year statistical anomolies. Keep drinking the kool-aide, get your booster and you will likely die based on the data. Educate yourself before you argue your ignorance.

Allie • 2 years ago

Where's the research? That's the only place I get information, after I evaluate the research and data analysis. None of your conspiracy blogs for me. Oh...that's right. There's a global conspiracy powerful enough to suppress all those "facts" only you know.

Kevin Brookshire • 1 year ago

"Adverse reactions like myocarditis, blood clots cancer are being seen like never before, correlated to the experimental gene therapy, " Myocarditis following receipt of other vaccines is rare and is recognized as causally linked only with smallpox immunization.

Comprehensive data about the risk of myocarditis following immunization with mRNA vaccines comes from Israel. The Israeli Ministry of Health recently posted data describing 121 myocarditis cases occurring within 30 days of a second dose of mRNA vaccine among 5 049 424 persons, suggesting a crude incidence rate of approximately 24 cases per million.

Based on currently available data, myocarditis following immunization with current mRNA-based vaccines is still rare. "The vaxx is the most deadly in history killing more then all others combined, proven fact."

There is no real evidence, from the WHO or elsewhere, to suggest that the COVID-19 vaccine has killed more people than the disease itself, which has so far killed more than 3,800,000 people worldwide. Deaths reported to VAERS for the COVID-19 vaccines do outnumber reports for past vaccines, but those reports have not been verified as being causally related.

Anyone can submit adverse events to VAERS, making the system susceptible to reporting bias too.
mRNA vaccines have nothing to do with experimental gene therapy, The idea of “vaccination and surveillance of large populations” inevitably means some people will die or experience a new illness in the time after vaccination.

Example - more than 42 million people in the UK have now received at least one dose of the coronavirus vaccine. The latest Yellow Card data shows that there have been 1,332 deaths reported after a COVID-19 vaccine.

You would have millions likely dying as you present things. Not happening!

Full Sail • 2 years ago

YES BUT WHEN VACCINATED THEY HAVE A MUCH LOWER CHANCE OF DYING FROM IT.

YOU KEEP MISSING THAT-- HERE, LET ME SAY IT AGAIN.

YES BUT WHEN VACCINATED THEY HAVE A MUCH LOWER CHANCE OF DYING FROM IT.

Kebbiet • 2 years ago

More vaccinated people are dying of Covid than unvaccinated - please see the latest research.

Elsie • 2 years ago

Kebbiet, While I don't believe the vaccine is making much difference with the latest variants, that statement is a perfect example of correlation isn't causation. It's kind of like feeding terminally ill people apples and feeding healthy people potato chips and saying that more people who ate apples died. More elderly and high risk people are vaccinated, and they are at higher risk of dying.

Kebbiet • 1 year ago

All cause mortality, with unusual spikes in younger age groups and analyzed for vaccine status.
p of 1.03 in Pfizer's own research = Increased risk of all cause mortality for the vaccinated study group when compared to the unvaccinated group.
This is the study that provided the basis for EUA approval, and is being incrementally released on court order (The study results were originally sealed for 75 years). Yet, there was no mandatory adverse reaction reporting required. No inquiry into why the vaccinated study group may have seen this result or whether it would be held up in real world administration.
There were many questions that should have been asked and studied during this experiment. Because the decision was made to prioritize universal vaccination, and these trial results could have been a road-block to mass acceptance of the vaccines, there was no "appetite" to look for adverse events. As we learn more about the capabilities and limitations of these vaccines, we should be open to the possibility that there are adverse reactions occurring and we should study them as real medical conditions. That is how we evaluate and adopt new treatments. Not by Governmental fiat. or have we all given up...

Trooth Hertz • 1 year ago

Nothing to "believe". There are facts. Look it up. Currently state reported data shows unvaxxed twice as likely to get sick and hospitalized and 10x as likely to die than vaxxed. This is current data with the latest variants.

Kevin Brookshire • 1 year ago

Not true at all!

Jim • 1 year ago

The other problem clouding your judgement is that many more people have had some type of Covid vaccination whether it's 1, 2, or 3 shots. Since a high percentage of the population is vaccinated there are many more vaccinated people who can get Covid.

If the vaccination rate is 78% and there are 330 million people in the U.S.
290,400,000 vaccinated
39,600,000 unvaccinated

If .5% of vaccinated die of Covid
1,452,000
If 3% of unvaccinated die of Covid
1,188,000

It looks like there are more vaccinated dying of Covid, but the death rate is 6 times higher in the unvaccinated. You need to normalize your numbers. Every antivaxxer I come across doesn't have the mental capacity to do this.

Trooth Hertz • 1 year ago

Easy to look up. A lot of state's Department of Health report COVID-19 stats by vaccination status. They all show unvaccinated people around 2x as likely as vaccinated to contract COVID-19, 2x as likely to be hospitalized and up to 10x as likely to die. It's no big mystery or secret research. Just publicly available facts. That said, considering that even vaccinated people can get sick and die from COVID-19, as the overwhelming majority of the population gets vaxxed, at some point there probably will be more people in the hospital who are vaccinated and in a long time maybe even more dying but at a very small number. Think it through. If you have 1,000 people and 750 of them are vaxxed, and the they all get exposed to a virus which can make 10% of the unvaxxed sick and 5% of the vaxxed sick, you'd have 25 sick unvaxxed people and 37 sick vaxxed people. That's not because the vaccines aren't working, it's because you're looking only at gross numbers and not percentages and statistics. Deadly mistake.

TheSmileDr • 2 years ago

Absolutely false. You're only parroting talking points from those who promote these so called "vaccine" drugs. The unvaxxed are doing quite well, thanks...and they have ZERO chance of dying from or being injured by the very immune-system-weakening drugs claiming to be "vaccines". Using your words, "the UNvaxxed have a much lower chance (like 0%) of dying from it (the "vaccines")."

Elsie • 2 years ago

Perhaps you should re-read the post I responded to. It wasn't about dying from the vaccine. It was about dying from COVID. And I don't parrot anyone. I can reason all on my own.

TheSmileDr • 1 year ago

My post was not a reply to you...it was a reply to "Full Sail"...please see that in the comments.

Full Sail • 2 years ago

You are relying on fringe science and also getting your confidence from groups of people on the Internet who are "fringe believers".

The large-scale studies say otherwise, Mr.False confidence.

TheSmileDr • 2 years ago

Cite the studies...I’ll wait here. In the meantime, please check out Pfizer’s own documents that they wanted to withhold until 2075 but were legally forced to reveal, albeit a little at a time. You’ll find countless scary effects of their own drugs in their own research...and the information revealing this was suppressed while they pushed their product. This isn’t a “fringe” concept...these are facts that you cannot refute.

Kebbiet • 2 years ago

The "unvaccinated" are not a homogenous group. They are PEOPLE who, for their own reasons, have not received all vaccinations and boosters. In fact, if you read the language of many Covid recommendations, those who have not received all recommended boosters are considered Not up to date with vaccination, throwing a huge chunk of the population into the non-compliant bucket. Those who have survived Covid and have natural immunity are not equal to anti-vaxxer - they suffered this disease and recovered from it, granting what in any previous infectious illness outbreak would have been considered immunity. The current Available data ignores previous infection, minimizes case rates by only counting those cases requiring hospitalization, and dismisses any prior infection's protection. If exposure to the entire Covid genome does not produce sustainable immunity, who in the world would accept the assertion that exposure to a single spike protein from that pathogen would provide better protection? If exposure to that single spike protein does provide immunological protection, the exposure to the entire Covid pathogen (including that same spike protein) would convey at least the same protection. Logic is dead in the medical community and the public is sooooo tired of being told that this whole pandemic is the fault of those selfish people who don't care if grandma dies. Worst Public Information Campaign Ever! and they are ignoring Fauci - he has become irrelevant to the daily lives of
We the People.

That people are tired of tirade is nothing more than projection.

The rest of the reply was a Fallacy. Specifically, a Red Herring. Spewing QAnon talking points.

C Michaels • 2 years ago

QAnon....lol...i think you've been watching too much tv...and VICE channel is about your speed.

Look champ. You can stalk people and post that immature stuff out of your basement all day long if you want. Me, I have options. And my option is to not have to read it. So you are being blocked.

You can reply if you wish. But if you do, since I won't see it, that will speak to your comprehension skills. Not very positively, though.

Vanessa Donnelly • 2 years ago

Like he cares you blocked him. You’re awfully brave with the word immature for someone who just shrieks leftist go to “talking point,” none of which have any supporting evidence to back up.

Allie • 2 years ago

Umm...there is a lot of evidence to show Michaels has no science behind his posts. He quickly went to ad hominem, which is the refuge of those with no facts.

Vanessa Donnelly • 2 years ago

Projection of WHAT? You seriously think when you pull out leftists terms randomly from a hat and string them together that people are going to believe you’ve made a point, don’t you? turns out “we’re sick of it” is the truth, it’s not a “projection” of any kind onto anyone. You can shriek your leftist nonsense all you want.

LMAO.

Well, you certainly showed your inner demons, didn't you. You will be the recipient of the same response that C Michaels was. And you can read my prior reply for what any response reflects.

BTW, you really, really, need help.

Allie • 2 years ago

"Projection" is a psychiatric term, not a political one. Someone, you seem to feel a virus cares what you're sick of.

Vanessa Donnelly • 2 years ago

Being anti covid vaccine does not constitute being anti vaccine. Not even close. No one is obligated to be injected to a vaccine, much less a dangerous vaccine that doesn’t work, to appease the irrational fear of other people. If they’re that scared, they can stay home. It’s cute they actually think we care they come on every page they can and shriek like deranged harpies who are off their medication about people refusing a vaccine. It makes me laugh. The fact them having a plethora of chronic health conditions because they spent decades abusing their own body does not create obligation on any else’s part.

Allie • 2 years ago

You ought to be required not to endanger public health. Why this is not the case with COVID, I can only guess. You and your ilk are keeping this thing going. It ought to have been all but done two years ago.

Dennis Fuller • 2 years ago

The unvaccinated are a homogeneous group of people who are not vaccinated. George Washington's requirement that his troops get vaccinated may very well may have played a part in the creation of this country. That phrase from George Santayana applies here – “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it,” It seems that that body of Americans have failed to learn from the black plague, Spanish flu, polio, tuberculosis, smallpox, yellow fever, etc. The unvaccinated have a low knowledge of history and little understanding of science. The numbers don't lie. Vaccinated people have better chance of not getting and/or surviving COVID. We the People are really not very smart and will probably be lucky to survive. Dinosaurs 180 million years versus Homo sapiens 200,000. Experience keeps a dear school but, a fool will learn by no other. I hope we make it.

C Michaels • 2 years ago

Are you seriously attempting to compare Covid-19 with a less than 1/2 % death rate with the bubonic plague, smallpox and yellow fever. LOL