The Myth of East Asian Intellectual Supremacy by Peter J. White:

http://thecross-roads.org/r...

The Myth of Asia's Miracle:

https://www.foreignaffairs....

I have read the first article you sourced, "The Myth Of East Asian Intellectual Supremacy". While I admire the author's attempt to search for the truth, I can't help but feel he may be biased. Here are a few issues I have with said article:

"Minnesota Whites score higher at 105, which raises an immediate problem for the East Asian superiority thesis"

Yes, Lynn admits that Minnesota Whites score 105, but the reason he didn't explain it was probably because that's comparing a province with a nation. How about compare Minnesota with a province in an East Asian nation? In a few IQ tests I've read in Chinese newspapers, the Zhejiang province of China scores 118.5.

"And a surprise: the average IQ of Israel is 94!"

I think what Mr. White's trying to do is imply that the Ashkenazim are not as smart as normally perceived, but he probably didn't know that Israel has a large Arab and non-Ashkenazi Jewish population, which drags down the nation's IQ. How about test only the Ashkenazi population of Israel?

"People 181 to 200 cms tall (again predominately Nordics) averaged an IQ of 113. Some Anglo Saxon districts, which were not particularly affluent, averaged an IQ of 125!"

IQs tend to fluctuate based on different tests. What he was doing was taking one or two tests which show an extreme score and taking them as the correct score, while Lynn takes multiple tests and average the results. For example, on some IQ tests, East Asians score 99, while on some, they score 116. These are usually averaged to around 105-108. On some of said IQ tests which I read in newspapers, some not particularly affluent districts in Zhejiang average an IQ of 158!

See the double standard in that article?

Anyone with brain know that these articles if full of bullshit.

This is like: "IQ does not matter because Asians have the highest IQ, but Africans are dumb because they have low IQ and that my scientific argument is irrefutable. I won."

"There is no equivalent of Asian mass culture entering white societies. "

What is anime?

Also, the writer shows little awareness of China's intentional social downward mobility to stymie the aristocracy, and the pretty extensive middle class and capitalism. That said, China did not recover well from the Jurchens and the Mongols and I do agree that there's at least a large degree of reduced risk-taking and curiousity.

A better example would be martial arts, which are now common throughout the West. As for anime, that's partly true, but you can see that Japan basically took the Western cartooning tradition, added their own modifications and improvements, and handed it back to us. I think this goes for other areas of popular culture as well. I use anime all the time to make memes. http://ex-army.blogspot.com

Syncretism isn't unusual for anywhere in the world, though - Farron's article notes on that as well. I also object to his article because of other factual errors such as the lack of an unified language(Qing had sorted that out pretty early on) and while there are dialects, the ability to communicate through unified language has been around for thousands of years.

The European Enlightenment derived from Confucianism, following the cultural exchange opened up by the Jesuit missionaries.

Europeans simply were incapable of figuring out on their own that you could have a civilization without an imaginary "God". Only after encountering Confucianism did they realize this.

(No offense intended to those who believe in God-- sincerely).

Completely false. The West had conserved its own philosophical traditions that go back to ancient Greece. That allowed for the Enlightenment. 17th century philosophers like David Hume were concerned exactly with non-religiously based ethical dialogues. The Enlightenment was a 18th century phenomena that followed close behind "The Age of Reason" which was a result of the various revivals of the sort of skeptical inquiry that the ancient Greek schools initiated.

You misunderstand Confucianism entirely, but I think it is pointless to argue with you over this.

Confucianism is tolerant towards polytheism (think Chinese folk religion). Confucianism cannot be seen in isolation.

You have to see Confucianism as connected intimately to Chinese folk religion or Taoism (Buddhism is an import philosophy).

Confucianism has coexisted over 2000 years with Chinese religion. Confucius himself is traditionally even worshipped.

The Jesuits were a strange bunch, but they were the spearhead of a Counter-Reformation. Independent thinking was anathema to the Catholic Church.

We still love Japanese Karaoke though.

There is a big controversy about Anime and how white people tend to think Anime characters look WHITE with the big eyes, non-black hair and longer noses (and of course white sized breasts on the women).

Once they get a genre figured out they seem to be good at maintaining it and producing more along the same lines (i.e. more characters, episodes). Look at all of the different Pokemon they have come up with, etc.

You will find that they LOVE Medieval themes, architecture, lore and weaponry. It is difficult not to see these things in our past as amazing and inspirational. So many of them live among us and wonder if some of this magic will wear off on them.

Sorry, but fortunately white people couldn't ever give that away even if they wanted to.

(and of course white sized breasts on the women).

Actually, the most common cup size in Japan is C, and in some areas they have woman with D cup breasts....

Chinese women on the other hand, typically have A or B cup breasts, mine is A... Since most asians Western people see in real life are Chinese, they might think Asians are flat breasted but it's not true (depends on region).

https://soranews24.com/2014...

I would argue that Japan, and even China, is more enamoured by Victorian England than the Middle Ages, with the exception of Game of Thrones fans in China. My impression of the Middle Ages is that it was dirty and rough. Things were better when Shakespeare came along, but then the men were basically wearing pantyhoses and the woman had these giant white accordion-like collars around their necks. Victorian fashion is more elegant.

Japan love things like Victorian dinner manners as well as The Language of Flowers. China partly love Victorian England because some believe China now is as Victorian England then, a rising empire - that's the good part, maybe good, the bad is that China now has a smoggy capital just like the 'fog' of London that had the bobbies wearing face masks.

Anime characters look Japanese 75 percent of the time. They just have big eyes and different hair colors. I've never seen anyone with natural blue or purple hair have you? Japanese people dye their hair all kinds of weird colors anyway. Also the size of "sexual assets," if you will can be exaggerated in cartoons or animation. But the women are more like to look white than the men are in anime.

I think it is difficult to include all aspects of Chinese social history in one short article.

'His ships were many times larger than anything afloat in the West, and if the Chinese had devoted themselves to sea power, they would certainly have dominated trade and could have discovered and colonized the Americas.'
Thankfully that did not happen as America would be an environmental cesspit like China is today.

Had China been powerful and successful, it would not have engaged in desperation catch-up growth that led to the environmental issues.

That said, its a significant and complex issue that actually has a lot to do with power of local governance in China. If people in Nevada don't care much for people in Texas, and can get away with polluting a neighboring state while benefitting themselves, then you have a situation kind of like how it is now in China.

When one builds ships out of wood, the mid-sized ones are far better in rough weather. It's not like having a big penis.

"What is anime?"
Inspired by Disney.
No denying it is their unique voice though, as some of it is truly bizarre.

Don't kid yourself. The Japanese almost dominated in 1941-1942. Thankfully we pulled off a win at Midway.

I live in East Asia. Every time I return to the USA for a short visit, I feel like I've gone back in time.

That's exactly what Trump is saying. We keep giving these countries sweet heart trade deals that allow them to take our wealth. Then they build new airports and cities while ours are old and decaying.

It's NOT "our" wealth. It belongs to whoever can take it.

Then it wasn't the Indians land then was it?

I agree with you entirely: the current American working class has an absolute right to be treated as well as the Native Americans were treated by European migrants.

Oh, so now that we've been oppressed as workers AND as whites we can have unregulated gambling concessions and huge tracts of land that we can set up as independently governed states and STILL be given money by the Federal Government?

As for actual history, we've got our flu and smallpox vaccinations and so do the Amerinds (along with horses, high tech, and Chevy pick-ups).

The Native Americans gave as good as they got. There are many books out detailing the savage dealings of Indians towards settlers and the reneging on land deals and purchases BY Indians after settlers had bought land from them (remember the term "Indian Giver"? There's a lot more to it than "pale face bad, Indian good" which is the yarn taught to kids for the last 50 years.

Some tribes committed atrocities on each other that are shocking. What would Comanche and Appache have done to human sacrifice seeking and slave seeking Aztecs who somehow managed to develop the technology to get to the current USA.

You are either a vicious cuck or a Tribal Alien. We're for Whites here.

I think this Jackson guy is that another annoying guy using another identity.
Notice who is missing from this thread that would always be here because of the subject matter.

Yes, that thought passed thru my mind as well. Same passionate love for the East Asians. Same utterly murderous contempt for Whites. Big Clinton supporter - the ascent of the Leader must have hit him hard.

Judicial Watch & Wikileaks can't be denied.
The "C" in CLINTON stands for CORRUPTION.

Most of what Whites settled on in North America was not owned or occupied by anyone. Later on, Whites did treat the Indians poorly and take the land they were on but the ancestors of every other race and people in every other nation invaded and conquered others and committed all kinds of misdeeds. Asians invaded and mistreated others in past history so are you also saying today's Asians should be treated like the people they mistreated in the past too?? The entire world has largely been founded on conquest. I'm all for reparations and giving Indians their land back but Whites were no worse than any other people.. Anyways, you seem like one of these White Americans that is very anti-American and against your own people. You should just stay in Asia as we're sick of your type.

Over 95% of White Settler land was unoccupied. We came into conflict only slowly as land use conflicted with these semi nomadic hunter gatherers. That's the what happens in immigrations both legal and illegal.

Montana Indians are demanding we grant them ownership of Glacier National Park and the buffalo herds therein, claiming it is theirs by virtue of its being historically "sacred land."
Wonder if Odumbo will cede it before he leaves office as another of his bird flipping gestures to White people of the United States.

So we will "take" it back. You're a perfect example of the loss of ethics that has brought American down. You must fit in perfectly in China/Asia where intellectual and copyright property has no respect.

Mark, I agree with you. I think by electing Trump Americans have also said to their elite shitheads GIVING our wealth away that we are going to fight for our country no matter what they do. We are in more danger from our own shitty government elites on the take than we are from anyone else. No matter what, no matter who: there are still groups of patriots who will fight anyone who tries to take away what little we have left and we are fighting for more.

That's not what he said. He said we have nothing and deserve even less.

A thing of value is yours until you forfeit your right to it. That's not empty nitpicking. It's a crucial concept in game theory and serious errors arise when its not clearly and correctly formulated.

That's his purpose: to incorrectly formulate things so errors arise. Or as Rockwell put it, a land pirate who put up false lights to lure ships onto the rocks where they can be pillaged.
A thing of value is yours as long as you are strong enough and smart enough to keep it. Isn't that a bit better? In response to which, Jackson will commence with weepy idealism.
Your formulation is Ok within a given State or system of laws and customs. Intra as opposed to Inter. It fails the Inter, or when aliens enter the State without accepting the system of laws, values, and customs.

I could understand that. But consider the USA you're returning to: A country of not just whites (or even Asians, for that matter), but also a massive population of low-I.Q., low-ambition minorities...many of whom are installed in affirmative-action positions in the private sector and especially in the public sector. Many are also consuming a disproportionate amount of welfare, all the while paying little or no taxes. East Asia, filled with almost exclusively industrious Asians, is not dealing with these issues.

How is it that all those people are allowed to enter the US in the first place?

They certainly cannot demonstrate that they bring with them 'unique capabilities', such as people from Europa moving to the US have to?

I mean: They cannot all be related, can they?

What year exactly?

Can you please be a little more specific. Are you referring solely to American infrastructure?

I've been to East Asia and I certainly didn't feel I went back in time. However, Whites have foolishly allowed mass 3rd world immigration which East Asians wisely haven't done, Whites have also allowed our elites to make trade deals with Asia that give Asians more money to spend in their own countries. Whites also give away money in America for welfare and to non-Americans in the form of trade deals, foreign aid, defending other countries etc. Japan and South Korea save money because we help defend their countries which needs to stop. White America is too altruistic whereas Asia is not and that is White people's fault.

Midway actually didn't matter very much. By the end of 1943, the US would still have had a large superiority in aircraft carriers, due to mass production of the Essex class fleet carriers (seven by the end of that year) and the Independence class light fleet carriers (all nine).

The Japanese naval staff actually wargamed Midway before the battle, assuming that we would have only two carriers there, as they did not expect we could patch up Yorktown so quickly. The wargame showed they would lose two carriers. The judges knocked that back to one, and then zero. Instead they lost all four. They could have had a fifth carrier there, Zuikaku. She had not been damaged at Coral Sea the way her sister, Shokaku had (she nearly sank on the way back to Japan), but had lost many planes and pilots. Aircraft and pilots could have been transferred from Shokaku, but Japanese navy doctrine did not allow mixed carrier air wings, so Zuikaku missed the battle.

Midway was the wrong engagement for Japan, and conducted in a completely awkward fashion by them. For example, Admiral Nimitz remained at headquarters at Pearl Harbor, where he was not under any sort of radio silence. Admiral Yamamoto went to sea in the battleship Yamato, where radio silence muted his ability to command. Johnny-on-the-spot was Admiral Chuichi Nagumo, who was a battleship guy, and he did nearly everything wrong. Relying solely on cruiser floatplanes for scouting was a serious error. US navy doctrine allowed carrier-based Dauntless dive-bombers to be used for that role as well. One of the catapults on the Japanese cruiser Tone broke down, which prevented the airplane which would eventually spot the US carriers from being launched in time.

The genuinely decisive effect of Midway was that it wiped out much of Japan's cadre of experienced navy pilots, but their doctrine was wrong and the whole idea was also mistaken.

If they had won at Midway, they might have established a seaplane base there, but how would they have supplied it? It would have become another "starvation island" for the unfortunate garrison.

They really didn't need the island. The destruction of our last three carriers would have been enough. Sure, we would have been superior again in terms of carriers by late 1943 but that was over a year away. What would the next 18 months have looked like? Would we have gone after Guadalcanal in August 1942 with no carriers? Probably not.

Later in the war (1945) the Japanese had a plan to take out the Panama Canal with planes launched from submarine aircraft carriers (from the Caribbean, not from the Pacific side). With a victory at Midway, they might have stepped up the date for that attack.

The real Japanese blunder (even before the war with the U.S.) was tying down over 1 million men in China. Imagine those troops being available in 1941-1942 for a push through India into the Middle East, a major strike at Australia, or even an invasion of Alaska beyond just grabbing a couple of islands in the Aleutians.

They couldn't have supplied another million men in the Pacific theater. Pushing through India would have been quite unlikely. Indian soldiers are pretty good, especially the Sikhs and Nepalese, and the terrain in Burma is just plain rough. Japanese brutality of the sort shown elsewhere would have resulted in all of India fighting them. That's a mess not even the British would have wanted.

There was also still China. The Chinese simply were not going to give up. The Nationalists and Communists were not going to give up fighting each other, but certainly weren't going to quit fighting against armed rapists from the "Kill All, Loot All, Burn All" school.

As for carriers, we still had Wasp and Ranger in the Atlantic, and Saratoga under repair while Midway was going. Saratoga missed the battle, but I think she made it out to sea.

Long term 2nd. World War, Japan could never win because the
American industrial might was never hit by bombing.
Admiral Yamato was right, bombing Pearl Harbor woke up
a sleeping giant.