Here's a question for the marxists in the WHO and their puppet politicians: How can one develop immunity to this virus if one cannot be exposed to it? ...Or is that part of the Plandemic globalist marxist agenda?

Bill Gates convinced them there will be a vaccine in short order.
Gates has said the same about HIV and the world has spent tens of billions over decades to try, but no HIV vaccine yet. And there has never been a vaccine for any coronavirus. It’s a house of cards for the exclusive benefit of big tech.

The normal flu has a vaccine and still has a higher death rate .137% vs < .1%. This has all been a hoax.

I have to believe it's more a hoax than anything serious. Reports have proven that. The numbers that Big Bro are feeding us have been proven false and misleading. Not all seniors died of this DemCon-19, old age will get ya more than not. Here in Crook County and Shi...congo, a gunshot victim dies and it's Covid because the deceased tested to have a miniscule detection of it (99% of people have some trace of the virus though it doesn't effect them).Hospitals have reported "mark the Covid line for all deaths", and most of the deaths are in Democrat controlled states and chitties. Why? because that's were the criminal invaders and the Afro-hyphons congregate, and congregate they do with big parties, group hugs in of all places cemeteries. Yet they don't want to understand, maybe because they don't understand English. And the fact that they can habitually choose what laws they want to follow and any punishment is decreased if caught, why follow law/rules.

What's a hoax?

The virus? It's contagiousness? The disease signs it causes? The deaths? None of that is fiction.

The death RATE from COVID-19 is almost certainly overestimated. But, there IS a significant death rate.

The reactions to the epidemic are perhaps wrong-headed and, in some cases, abusive. But, what would YOU have done? Armchair quarterbacking is bullshiite.

as marty pointed out, deaths are being attributed to corona that have nothing to do with corona, thats called a hoax. the reaction is also a hoax as anyone with the most basic medical knowledge knows this virus was spread to the populace LONG before politicians reacted, largely because china kept things hush hush until it was too late. also, in virginia people whom have previously tested positive for corona and have been tested a second time and found positive are counted as new cases instead of existing cases...... another fraud......... how many more would you like us to list?

corona: real
number of deaths attributed to it :false
recommended reaction: false

does that clear it up for ya?

What humans have always done for thousands of years. Protect the vulnerable, go about our business, and develop herd immunity, the best and only real protection for those most at-risk. Why do you think this time was different from everything the human race has ever done before? It's just another virus that kills less than 1% of those it infects, and far less than that of the total population. This is the United States. Why did we react exactly as China did, when we knew their reaction was totalitarian and completely anti-scientific? You know the answers to these questions, and it has nothing to do with armchair quarterbacking, Xi.

"The death RATE from COVID-19 is almost certainly overestimated."

I disagree. It's been estimated reasonably and carefully. Would you rather have it liberally underestimated?

Yes I agree with you, this was a new phenomenon and no one knew what to do. There were many opinions and a lot of disagreement. But the main vector of transmission appears to be the failure of the government to provide protective gear for hospital staff and provide for testing and isolate the infected. Yes probably with all three of the above were practiced and in place, the social distancing variable which was deemed so important might not have been necessary. After all physicians who are in hospital rooms wearing appropriate gear and taking appropriate precautions do not get the virus after seeing countless patients daily. But the protective headgear and body gear and the tests and isolating the sick or asymptomatic still are the problem and have not been effectively addressed. America is still depending on Chinese production and manufacturing of the items the U.S needs the most, and ironically it is the Chinese that brought Covid -19 to the shores of the U.S. Diabolical China has turned Americans into dependent sick consumers on life support with no end in site and no American leadership in place in either party on how to extricate the U.S from this death spiral socially and politically , economically. Please someone , please save America. South Korea and Germany were able to deal with it and their economies are manufacturing bases while U.S is just a consumer country with a huge welfare system. America has become one big nursing home and the Chinese first got the virus here and now are treating us.

"... the failure of the government to provide protective gear..."

Lesson #1, Government is not God.

Lesson #2, Hospital owners should already have been prepared for the outbreak of a pandemic. Not one hospital's management had provided for enough "protective gear" on hand to meet the requirements of the first two weeks of an outbreak. What happened in New York is a powerful lesson. Will that lesson be learned or turned into another excuse to scold Big Government for not being big enough then pump up Pig Government even more?

Lesson #3, Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.

There are other lessons, sweetie. Find them, take them all to heart, learn them, then act on them.

P.S. Rip Van Winkle was a New York fellow. Napping seems to be a New York habit that goes back a long way.

And the flu shots only have a 40-60 percent success rate in preventing the flu.

There are many strains of flu (and other) viruses. Viruses can mutate and reproduce themselves at breakneck speed relative to any other life form. Some flu vaccines are effective, but often not against newly emerging strains. The same goes for self-emanating immunity. Immunoglobulins are highly specific for certain moieties on certain proteins that are accessible to them. There is no guarantee that your immune system will recognize a slightly modified viral strain.

apparently you skipped the class on how immunity works....... the body doesnt recognize ANY viral strain, including the common flu viruses when first introduced, the body then creates anti bodies to fight said virus, sometimes the attention the body gives to fighting said virus (this could be any new virus introduced to the human body, no matter its mutagenic property) takes away from what the body has already been fighting (for instance a previous respiratory disease or some other disease like cancer) and the host dies. The body by and large can keep up with mutations (even lab created ones in this case) but when the body has been significantly weakened it can be susceptible to death.

Ray is correct in that these other flu's for the most part have vaccines AND higher death rates, which makes the social distancing reaction, nothing but a hoax designed for power.

Let natural selection work its magic. I'm sure YOU won't seek medical care when you get a life-threatening illness.

Yes, and HIV is for the most part a behavior related malady which could be eradicated without a vaccine.

Tell that to the people who got it via blood transfusions.

Failure of the Medical system and corruption of drugs sent to the Third World/Bayer Scandal.

The minority of the victims?

Well definitely innocent victims, right?

Yeah, true....maybe reserve the mythical "vaccine" for them! Unfortunately, they'd likely be the least likely to be able to pay for it

My wife was in a car accident in Washington DC at the height of the HIV blood contamination and she dodged a bullet by the grace of god. The government’s incompetence has always been a major impediment to freedom and life.

Anecdotes are not evidence.

That’s funny. The entire panic is nothing but anecdotal BS, top to bottom, no science permitted.

"Innocent" -- who's "innocent"?

You get run into by a drunk driver — you are innocent. The drunk driver is not. Jeesh our public schools have ruined everyone.

Rare.

Since the ‘Rona has proven to be virtually no increased risk for the vast majority of people living in the vast majority of the USA yet unconstitutional lockdowns and shutdowns persist I’ve seen the goal posts move to “just one life” saved is worth whatever blah blah blah. Keep your stories straight.

Did you miss "for the most part"

Did YOU miss " could be eradicated without a vaccine"?

I missed any point on the subject at hand (Antisocial Distancing) and still do.

That hasn't happened in 30+ years.

What’s your point? Or do you even have one?

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Dr. Fauci also promised a vaccine for HIV.

in fairness HIV medically is a completely different ball of was than a flu strain....... flu vaccines (because most people can develop an immunity to them) can keep up with new flu strains.

Im not gonna say Fauci is a saint or anything, he's wrong more than he's right, but that's not a point I'd hang my hat on medically if I were you.

False. Go ahead, prove me wrong. Find an objectively verifiable quote of Dr. Fauci saying, "I promise a vaccine for HIV by 2020."

But Gates fortune continues to grow.

Upset that you didn't have the foresight to buy any Microsoft (MSFT) stock for yourself, jimhalfwit?

Not at all. MSFT has always had a huge pile of cash but Gates & Co has not been generous with the stockholders dividend opting to keep it for himself becoming one of the richest men on the planet. Being older, my money has gone into dividend bearing industrial shares which leaves out computers.

Even if you get a vaccine there is no guarantee that it'll be 100% effective. It might be...60% effective and also might need booster shots as well.

That’s an important point. And the effectiveness of flu vaccines is below 25% for some types of influenza.

You will still have to buy it though and that's the point.

So, don't get it, dummy.

Exactly. Ask your doctor what was in the flu shot he just gave you.

Exactly, and let's not forget, the Flu has a vaccine and still kills 45-65K annually.

"... let's not forget, the Flu has a vaccine and still kills 45-65K annually."

Maybe that's why Trump said he took the actions he did in order to prevent 200,000 to 2,000,000 deaths this year.

Don't look now, but you're ignorance of biology is showing.

you've had a continued ignorance of biology, as ive pointed out twice and now a third time...... I would not speak if I were you on that subject.

Is this a Pandemic, or is it a Bolshevik Revolution destroying the remnants of Capitalism and imposing Communism.
Fauci, Birx, lap dogs of Jeffery Epstein's FRIEND, Bill Gates ..... leading the charge to shut down the economy and impose Government Oversight of all aspects of your life.
WHAT nazi symbols? WHERE? Now AMERICAN flags are NAZI SYMBOLS???
Gulag Gretchen Whitmer wishes to deflect from her BOLSHEVIK history as they impose it on America.
BOLSHEVIK Whitmer, friend of Communists Newsom & Cuomo.
"nazi, nazi, nazi" they were nothing compared to the Bolsheviks.
Every American should be studying the HOLODOMOR and STALIN'S terror.
Learn what the Bolsheviks did to Christian Ukrainians and Russians.
Because you may well be RELIVING it.
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