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Gern Blandsten Jr. • 4 years ago

iPhone 6 n 6+: I'm not sure about this. I was hoping for a 'phone' (messaging, maps, reservations, quick data lnfo..) that was smaller, and thinner. Your carry-around-all-day device should be small, thin and durable. For work and at-home surfing and playing, use a tablet.

The aWatch? (I said it first, call me Apple)... They've crammed just WAY too much into this thing for it to NOT have a mobile chip (like the Timex/Qualcomm Ironman that doesn't require a phone to pair with) and have to depend on your iPhone. So now we'll have this LARGE phat aWatch on our wrist, and have to carry this giant iPhone to pair with it? Just seems a little too much for me at least. Price and size.

This thing feels just like Google Goggles to me.. wow, it sure is purdy! .. and it does a lot... But the Honeymoon ends quickly when you find yourself just pulling out your phone, and putting a beautiful TAG Heuer watch on your wrist instead. No batteries needed and goes as deep as you want to dive.

So Apple; make it thinner, make it SIMPLE, it doesn't have to do everything (after all, your phone is RIGHT THERE, in your pocket). Even messages... is it too inconvenient for all of us to pull out our iphone when we hear a "bing!", or better yet, to ignore it when we want to? Do we 'really' need to draw funny faces or send animated emoticons from the 90's when asking a friend to lunch? Try a text message from your iPhone.. that large expensive thing in your pocket there. Food for thought. :-)

endoftheQ • 4 years ago

I didn't see any official cases, only straps. ;)

JoeDesign • 4 years ago

I hope the this watch looks better in-person, because right now I'm not impressed with the design. The moto 360 looks like something Steve Jobs would make. Also are they kidding me with the dial on the side!?!? I've been winding my watch for years and I never thought of it as a new innovative way to interact with it. Right now I would say swing and a miss, I hope it's doesn't become the ZUNE of smart watches. Lol

Jeff T • 4 years ago

You misunderstood what he was saying. "A new innovative way to interact with it", is referring to the new, innovative ways the dial interacts with the watch. You said yourself, you've been winding your watch. This new dial does quite a bit more. He even pointed out how they did it with "a tool that's been on the watch for decades". I'm paraphrasing there, but that's the gist of it.

c_hack • 4 years ago

Between all the new features of iOS 8, Yosemite, iCloud and the new iPhone and AppleWatch I am overwhelmed.

The only disappointment is the iPhone Plus is too big. I've seen how awkward and clumsy the Samsung Notes are and I do not want an iPhone like that. Everything else from Applepay to the AppleWatch to Continuity to ApplePay to the health tracking are things I want and will use.

I am very very happy with the new devices. Apple has sold several watches to my family (not to mention iPhone 6's)

Nosynths • 4 years ago

How is that a disappointment? Did you overlook the iPhone 6? Those of us who want a bigger screen and can handle the Plus size don't have to move to Android. Those of you with girlie hands can stick to the regular iPhone. 😄

Mr. Luigi • 4 years ago

Bless you my son. :-)

Jeff t • 4 years ago

I wouldn't call that a disappointment, but I'm with you in that the iPhone 6+ is way too big for me. I immediately went to an AT&T store to hold the comparable Note. It just fells awkward in the hand and too big in the pocket.

A • 4 years ago

Why is apple naming everything apple- at the moment? Also why has apple once again insisted that their products only work with other apple products? I would like an apple watch if it acted in a stand alone manner but it requires an iPhone to work.

Russ • 4 years ago

To little to late for me I will finally move away from Apple very disappointed in the new phone design and lack of features.
Apple was a front runner now they are a follower I'm done.

AlbertTCB • 4 years ago

I wonder how the new iCloud drive helps us saving actual space on the iOS devices. I love photostream, but hate it that it actually fills your devices with up to 1000 images. If those images are available through the iCloud drive where you see thumbnails instead of the full images, then that would help people a lot saving space.

Another space-saver: let game developers spilt up the game where you download the full game, but where space consuming files (like cutscenes en background music) can be downloaded and removed per level or episode.

No Brainer • 4 years ago

Just my 2 cents. I wish they had called it the iWatch, and I bet that eventually most people will call it that anyway vs. the "Apple Watch." That just seems awkward to say. Also. WTF with keeping the 16 GB phones and not just going 32, 64 and 128? Seriously, even if you don't download a lot of apps (I do - TONS, but my kids don't) you run out of space on the thing SOOOOO quickly with pics and selfies and videos, etc. Seriously a completely ridiculous no-brainer to drop the 16 gb. Personally, I pretty much HATE the big phones / phablets. I think they look stupid. If you want to watch or play something on a bigger screen, get an iPad mini or beam it to you Apple TV.

I am VERY disappointed in the price of the iWatch. I said to myself before today, if it was over $199, it would be out of reach for many, many people. We all heard $399, and I figured that was like the original iPad - a set up so when they announced $199 or $249, we'd all say "Ooooooh, Wow! How can they price that so affordably so EVERYONE can get one!?!" but no, they had to come in too high. It will sell just fine, and when 2.0 comes out in a year or so, then 1.0 will become the affordable iWatch that everyone can buy either from Apple or on the secondary market.

I think the thing will have great use as a Health Tracker and Fitness Tracker device. For that reason alone, I will consider plunking down the (overpriced) $349 for one.

And . . . WHAT? No saphire display on the Sport version? Which version probably more than any other really NEEDS the saphire display? Yeah. The Sport version. But I suppose they have to keep ZAGG in business with InvisibleShield sales . .

If ApplePay (iPay anyone?) takes off . . . Wow. That will make Apple richer than . . . well insanely rich . . .

Mr. Luigi • 4 years ago

Hi No Brainer,

I'm sorry you hate large phones. The good news is no one is forcing you to buy a large phone. You have the option to buy a smaller screen.

It is also sad to hear you think large phones "look stupid." I can't help you out much there except to suggest that when you do see someone enjoying their larger screen phone...Look Away!

The memory sizes may seem odd when first considered, but what Apple has done is not totally insane. For those who want to go as low as humanly possible with the price of an iPhone there is the 16 GB model. I agree with you, that is too little memory for me. But, for some, it can work. Why is there no 32 GB version? I think that may have something to do with the inappropriateness of basing the pricing of memory on the multiplication table rather than the addition table. Historically, Apple has charged the same extra price to go from one memory capacity up to the next. 16 GB to 32 GB --> $100. 32 GB to 64 GB --> $100. 64 GB to 128 GB --> $100. But, if you look at those numbers you quickly see the some folks are getting WAY more extra memory for the same price. The lowest tier jump only gives you 16 GB for $100. The highest teed jump gives you 64 GB for the same price. Whereas Apple may have originally thought this was good marketing strategy b/c it would entice folks to buy larger capacity phones, maybe the strategy didn't work out as well as they thought. Or, crazy as it may sound, maybe they are trying to be more equitable in their payment plans for memory. Now you can go from 16 GB to 64 GB for the same $100 that used to only get you to 32 GB.

Put it this way...if someone walked up to you and said, "I will double the amount of money you have in your pocket." Would you rather have 1 penny in your pocket or 1 million dollars? Doubling, as a fair and enticing pricing protocol, may just not make good sense in many situations.

No Brainer • 4 years ago

Yes, Mr. Luigi. I am fully aware that no one is compelling me to buy the monster-sized iPhone. Thankfully they made a model that was "bigger but not too much bigger" for those of us who like the "iPhone Mini".

Regarding the memory. I can so the math. I still think they would have done themselves a favor to offer only starting at 32 GB for the 6. You can still get the "throwaway" 5c and 5s in 16 GB. Why not set the new standard with the larger phone at the larger default base capacity?

I would think that would be a better marketing strategy. As for me, there is No Way, No way I will pass up on the chance to quadruple my storage from this measley 32 gb

jenny • 4 years ago

You should try to remember that apple also poked fun that samsung's phones were too large and that iphone 5 screen was optimal for one hand operation. What does apple do several years later...they make the same size phones as samsung.

Mr. Luigi • 4 years ago

Hi jenny,

Oh I remember that. I've been championing a larger screen iPhone for years and was deeply saddened by Apple's stubbornness to see the "writing on the wall." I will not support Apple's late entry into the larger screen cell phone market. I am just glad they finally came to their senses. :-)

endoftheQ • 4 years ago

16G is a marketing ploy, it lets Apple use a close-to-cost low entry price and then "for just another $100" you can add 3x more storage, for something that only costs them a couple of bucks wholesale. There's currently little technological advancements available for the iPhone so they'll drip feed things like sapphire glass, pressure touch screen, etc. or use software bait as they did with SIRI. Oh, and I wouldn't worry Jamie, 2016 will be the year of the iPhone Mini. ;)

Mr. Luigi • 4 years ago

Hi endoftheQ,

I pretty much agree with you. But, isn't almost everything a "marketing ploy." I probably prefer the phrase "marketing strategy" here because people, a LOT of people, WILL buy the 16 GB iPhone. Ploy seems to imply something that is "out there" but not really feasible...a "bait and switch" if you will. I don't think that is the case here. I just surveyed my students and most that have 16 GB iPhones. But, you are right. For folks like ME, when I see a beautiful, gorgeous, sumptuous large screen 16 GB iPhone 6 Plus for $299 there is NO WAY I'll pass up the opportunity to up that to 64 GB for $100 more. No way!!! :-)

Jamie Young • 4 years ago

For what it's worth, our only options are going to be bigger and MONSTER sized. I am disappointed we don't get to have a 4" option moving forward. They're both too gigantic for me. Makes me sad.

Mr. Luigi • 4 years ago

Oh Man, now you've made me feel guilty...which makes ME sad. This is awful.

Jamie Young • 4 years ago

Not my intent!

...or maybe it was...

<3

Mr. Luigi • 4 years ago

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that you will end up really enjoying the iPhone 6.

SNAP! Watch out belooooooooow!

Jamie Young • 4 years ago

Oh, I am sure I'll get used to the size *eventually*. And that's my only qualm. I'm really looking forward to the improvements (upgrading from a 5). :)

BrokenCylon • 4 years ago

Kind of agree w/you there, I love the size of the 5's & also wish there was a refresh of that size moving forward...I like using my iPhone w/one hand & the 6's size is a little awkward for me...

Jamie Young • 4 years ago

Yeah. I'm sure I'll get used to it, just like I got used to the iPhone 5 size (which I initially also did not like), but still not ideal for me personally.

Sally L • 4 years ago

something else that camr to mind was as a help monitor for my elderly parents

Nosynths • 4 years ago

That could be a great idea, but the fact that it also requires an iPhone to be within Bluetooth distance could be a problem.

Sally L • 4 years ago

I really like the Watch feature wise and design wise, but i have to say that its not exactly super modern. its not a curved semi translucent fleible lightweight band with displat all over it . its a nice product, but its not revolutionary design. That being said, it us miles more competent than anything else

DB • 4 years ago

6+ for me. I like the iWatch but that gold one will probably be quite expensive and be invitation to muggers. But most important announcement is ApplePay. That will be game changer if it takes off. It may probably be around longer than the watch or phone. And Apple will get a nice cut out of eac and every one of those mobile payments. The service business is Apple's ultimate future not products.

jenny • 4 years ago

That is a good point with people snatching peoples apple watch. Most of the bands are only held by a magnet.

endoftheQ • 4 years ago

It also shows you've got an iPhone in your pocket or bag.

Gators Gonna Gate • 4 years ago

So you're telling me that my year old Nexus 5 has a significantly higher screen resolution and can do everything that the iPhone 6 can, while being hundreds of dollars cheaper? I have to admit I really wanted this next phone lineup to be a success because I love my iPad and would like to be all Apple. But these phones are such a joke. There are far better, cheaper options out there than the crap that Apple keeps putting out phone wise.

Nosynths • 4 years ago

c_hack hit the nail on the head for me. Android phones are basically Google's direct conduit to any information they want to obtain on their users. Like a FitBit for your identity. EVERYTHING you do, write, and say is monitored! By law, some of it is aggregated so it can't be personally identified (yeah, right!), but make no mistake that Android users are Google's data collection vessels.

c_hack • 4 years ago

Dear droidtroll.
With the exception of not being able to take good pictures, not having any privacy (Google sells all your info to its customers), having a clunky OS that can't even scroll web pages without stuttering, being a cheap plastic design with a muddy screen, not having any support like AppleCare and Apple Stores, being significantly slower than Apple's A8 processors, not having a secure TouchID, not having a useful payment system (one that is actually used), not having good resale value, and not being nearly as reliable, your Nexus is almost as good.

I myself use a Nexus 7 2nd gen and find it much much slower than my iPad Air. In comparison Android is clumsy and slow and the hardware is cheap cheap cheap.

But enjoy your Nexus by all means.

Jeff T • 4 years ago

Dear droid troll hunter,

Thank you for your service!

Chaka Jon • 4 years ago

The 6 Plus is too big for my back pocket. Great way to get mugged. 😫

Nosynths • 4 years ago

You had plenty of time to tell Apple while they were working on it. They might have changed the design.😏

Tom • 4 years ago

Number 3 should be at the top. If you can't watch it, does it really exist?

Mr. Luigi • 4 years ago

Man I feel old. Is the 5.5 inch iPhone 6 too large? I grew up talking on a phone that attached to the wall via a coiled cord with a defibrillator looking huge plastic handle for speaking and listening.

Some would say 5.5 inches is still too small. But, in all honesty, I don't think they are talking about phones. :-)

endoftheQ • 4 years ago

My Gf won't even upgrade to a 5 because it's too big for her dainty hands, not all the world's races are born with hideous XXL hairy paws. 2016 will be the year of the iPhone Mini. :)

Mr. Luigi • 4 years ago

Hey! Be careful who you're calling out as having "hideous XXL hairy paws"!!!

:-) :-) :-)

Chaka Jon • 4 years ago

5.5" cardboard cut-out in back pocket. Too big for me. 4.7" is mine.

pocketfrog • 4 years ago

It depends on your firmware.
[rimshot]

Mr. Luigi • 4 years ago

Good one!!!!! :-)

SockPuppet • 4 years ago

It isn't about the size of of your hardware; it's how you use it. ;-)

Mr. Luigi • 4 years ago

I tell that to my wife every day. And she laughs the laugh of one who seeks to mock. :-) :-)

SockPuppet • 4 years ago

I'm sure she's content with your comfy old phone and won't throw it over for the new larger model! ;-)

Mr. Luigi • 4 years ago

One can only hope...and continue to make sure to lower the toilet seat when done doing business.:-)

Chaka Jon • 4 years ago

Still can't decide 6 or 6+. I just cut out the devices on 5-layer card stock. The Plus sticks out of my back pocket (where I carry my phone), and with a case, it'll be way too big. Upgrading from my 5, and will most likely go with the 4.7" 128GB (same price as my 5 64 GB).

Can anyone confirm that the split screen they demoed on the 6+ will/will not be on the 6.

Jamie Young • 4 years ago

If you're referring to the "reachability" feature, it is available on both the iPhone 6 *and* the iPhone 6 Plus.