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syndicator • 2 weeks ago

a very decent guide A Plus..

LooserDS • 3 months ago

Hello - please can spout tell me from which Fronten dare the screenshots in your article? They look absolutely nice!

Daniel • 2 months ago

All of the screenshots in this article are from the desktop version of EmulationStation.

Tinydic • 3 months ago

The power supplies suggested are way overkill. I9 is overkill. Even RPCS3 only uses 3 cores. A rtx2060 would be good enough for any working emulator out currently. Makes me wunder if u even emulate bruh.

Daniel • 3 months ago

Thank you for your input, but I think you may have misread the article to some degree. You seem to to be referring to the 'absurd, beastly' example build; that build is only there for people that have a higher budget than they know what to do with, and simply want to get their hands on some of the best available hardware regardless of practicality. Hence the name of the build. You will notice that the build above it ( the 'high-performance' build) already states that it will get great performance on all currently available emulators.

And as for the RTX 2060, it was only fully announced about a week ago, and won't be available to consumers until Tuesday. This article was last updated (as it says at the top) in November. It will likely feature the 2060 after its next update.

furkan1 • 3 months ago

dd4 ram and motherboard pointless for emulation in that Money you can buy real Retro console and games lol.

Joel • 3 months ago

i agree that ddr 4 ram might be pointless in most builds (save for running more intense titles on ps3 emulators), but if you get a CPU that only supports ddr4 theres not much you can do about it. also if you buy the real retro console then you have to buy the physical games, some of which are very expensive. also retro consles wont support things like widescreen hacks, resolution scaling, taa, and other post processing effects that emulators support.

Averaham • 3 months ago

And I just want to tell you guys that your site is doing well, actually I am a avid fan of your site and I really love reading your articles, more power to you guys and have a blessed 2019

Daniel • 3 months ago

Thank you for your comments! We hope you have a great year as well.

Averaham • 3 months ago

Also the prices listed here are so much expensive, actually Ive got a brand-new laptop with intel i3-7100u chipset with intel hd 620 gpu 1tb hardisk and 4gb ram for just 425 dollars, and I can run pcxs2 (re4, recodeveronica, bully, gta san andreas) on 60fps, also I can run dolphin emulator (reZERO, RE4 and Tony Hawk 4) on full speed, you don't need a expensive hardware to run emulators, as long as it is just recently new, it will be fine..

Emulation is my life, been an hardcore emulator gamer since 2007..

furkan1 • 3 months ago

you should play re4 and gta san andreas pc versions works much better.

Averaham • 3 months ago

This is why I am a fan of Emulation gaming, it does not require a powerful rig, imagine.... with my current pc specs I am not able to play Call of Duty modern warfare pc version, however since dolphin is also an emulator for Wii, I can play it on my rig smoothly....

Juust Timo • 3 months ago

What prices would we be looking at if one wanted to invest in a PC to emulate PS3/Xbox 360 games at a high level?

Daniel • 3 months ago

High-speed emulation in RPCS3 and Xenia are some of the toughest feasible emulation tasks currently available, and as such they require several orders of magnitude more power than is needed for most retro emulating. For that purpose, we would not recommend going any lower than the 'high-performance' example build in the first section of the article above, which clocks in near $1500 (although, budget permitting, the 'absurd, beastly' example build would do even better).

Brody Scotts • 3 months ago

Thanks for the great article!
I have built numerous PCs (for myself and for the various companies I've worked at). Invariably, as I build at work, someone asks me to do a build for them that usually involves being able to play games and use as a general HTPC. I've never built such a computer for myself, but I've been asked by multiple sources in the last couple of months.
Relative to my experience with PC hardware, this article serves as a solid starting point that leads to some good Googling points.

Musashi • 4 months ago

Is it possible to expand upon the number of builds in this list? There are 5 builds here with a $1,000 difference between high and beastly while on the main page there are over 40 builds. It would be great to see more emulation builds with price increments of $200 or so. I personally am looking primarily for an emulation build with a minor focus on pc gaming using either 1070 or 1080 graphics. Your high performance and beastly jump straight from a 1060 to the 2080.

Daniel • 4 months ago

Unfortunately, it would be prohibitively difficult to create and maintain a similar number of builds to our primary homepage build chart for each of our 30ish big guide articles. For a more granular approach to a build with gaming as a top priority, you can rest assured that the builds in the main chart will serve you well. In particular, the 'Superb,' 'Excellent,' and 'Outstanding' tiers sound like they're close to what you want.

On the other hand, if you prefer, you can simply substitute a GTX 1070 or GTX 1080 into the 'High-perfomance' example build above. Graphics cards are heavily standardized, and share compatibility across all current motherboard models. This would not make much difference for the emulation performance of that build, but would still make for a balanced PC and would noticeably increase the general (non-emulated) PC gaming performance of it.

Musashi • 4 months ago

Understandable. I did notice for a relatively similar price the main page has builds with the i7-9700k, with graphics still as the primary focus. Good to know I can swap a GTX 1080 into the "high-performance" above.

Dan • 7 months ago

The hardware and prices listed here are high. I have spent $200 and emulated from Atari 2600 to PS3 effectively with great performance. People should buy a used business workstation class system off eBay, that comes with 6 month warranty. Most come with Windows 7 licences no extra charge. And almost all the workstation class systems are Xeon processors, these are the performance processors that go in servers. Made for crouching numbers, work great for emulation or virtualization.

I picked up a 8 core Xeon workstation built by Dell, with 32GB of ram, 1TB HD, and 1GB video card with free shipping for $189 and that thing plays everything. I haven't tried PS4, but will try soon.

Many ways to save money, but $400 is steep for a kid who wants to experience the old game console of gaming. Go to eBay or hit garage sales, but a used system. I have ran 2nd to 4th gen systems on a Pentium 4 or i3. It isn't hard.

Also, if you have to pay extra money for Windows, that is silly. Use Linux, it is free. Just make sure you have a NVIDIA video card. NVIDIA is great on Linux.

No offense, but your specs for the systems are overkill and pricy.

Daniel • 7 months ago

Thank you for the feedback. You are absolutely correct; individuals willing to buy used or older components/computers (who can find reputable sources for such parts) can do better than the cost-effective build in terms of price. Our example builds use only new and up-to-date hardware options. But for pure retro-only value-building, currently it's not going to be possible to beat a raspberry pi set-up in terms of value propositions.

That said, it was direct feedback from a member of the RPCS3 team (via Twitter) that set the bar for the CPU in the 'midrange' build and above---as the i5-8500 is the lowest-tier chip to feature TSX functionality, which their PS3 emulation utilizes. Moreover, we're the first to admit that the highest-tier example build in this article is absurd and beastly (it's in the name of the build, haha).

Better add hamachi there for those who want to play multiplayer online.

Daniel • 9 months ago

We'll definitely look into that. Thanks for the suggestion!

Mee • 9 months ago

The newer Xbox One S controllers do have built-in Bluetooth to allow using that instead of the dongle. They'll also work wired, unlike the Xbox 360 controllers which only work either wired or wireless. Dualshock 4s will also work on wired connections.

Daniel • 9 months ago

Thanks for letting us know! We'll soon remove those lines saying they can only be used in certain ways.

JDawg • 9 months ago

There's a typo in this line: "Unlike many other components, the quality of power supplies does not increase as much over time."

The word "increase" should be "decrease" or a similar word.

Daniel • 9 months ago

Thank you for the comment, but that line is intended to be just as it is written.

What it means is that, unlike other core components (such as the GPU, CPU, and---to a lesser degree---RAM), power supplies do not make great leaps and bounds in quality, power, or speed year-after-after with new releases. So, a high-quality power supply purchased today will not become obsolete within a typical computer upgrade window of 5 or so years.

JDawg • 9 months ago

Ah ok sorry for misunderstanding

Jude • 9 months ago

Don't forget Lakka as an OS option!

Daniel • 9 months ago

Thanks for the message. Lakka is indeed a terrific OS choice for many users!

But it's not our top recommendation for either Raspberry Pi or desktop systems.

Steve Nuss • 9 months ago

The 360 controllers are possibly the worst choice you can possibly make for emulation purposes. Simply because the d-pad is so horrendous - and most retro/emulated games rely on the d-pad.
Sure they're fine for 3D/analogue games but if you're trying to play a 2d platformer, a fighting game, a shmup, or any game that requires dexterity with your dpad - then good luck to you coz you're going to need it. You're going to be hitting false directions constantly, jumping instead of moving (or vice versa) for eg. Also you're going to end up with one hell of a sore left hand. God help you.

Daniel • 9 months ago

You're correct that the 360 gamepad's d-pad is unwieldy and unreliable, but it's misleading to say that these problems with the d-pad make it a bad choice for emulation of retro consoles.

Every emulator listed in the article above is capable of mapping the directional inputs to the left analogue stick, which allows traditionally-d-pad-bound retro games to control as smoothly as modern games on a 360 gamepad. And using the analogue stick is actually closer than the d-pad to the proper control style for originally-joystick-controlled systems like some of the Atari consoles and most arcade cabinets.

But for a NES/SNES/Genesis/etc purist, or someone diametrically opposed to the analogue stick, yes, it would be best to seek a controller with an excellent d-pad.

Viperision • 4 months ago

Well, I was going to get a Speed Link Torid because I can't have any credit accounts and it was available at an web shop based in my country's capital city, but it gives option of paying by takeover (when they ship directly to your house and you pay to the shipper and he gives the products you purchased to you). It was only valuable controller for such a low price (under $28). Although, I am mentioning this controller because it is a direct inferior rip-off of X360 controller, so yeah -- D-PAD. I am not as much interested in the analog-sticks, so it'd be a complete waste of $30, because I'd have liked playing third & fourth gen home consoles and handhelds.

Anyway, I don't know, nothing is achievable as easily and I should not tend buying cheapest and easiest-to-obtain things. I should rather focus on my schooling and education while it's up and eventually plan things out when they should be planned. I'll shall be looking for pursuing my retrogaming ambitions after schooling, there shall be enough time to enjoy that Zelda franchise I've never experienced to the day..