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Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:37:36 -0000

You are a man/woman of substance and i wish all members of the public had your insight and objective, unfortunately most seem to be taking out their hangups on this member of staff, maybe the fares are his fault or maybe the delays are his fault hey blame it all on the man who is at the bottom of the pile simply doing his job.

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:14:03 -0000

he also has safety and lives to protect which is a little more important than playing childrens games and talking politely to someone refusing to adhere to most simple of basic safety instructions. YOU customers are missing the point we are not there to be your verbal punchbag nor are we there to here petty complaints we are there for YOUR safety so when we say to do something you do it no argument others you will be removed from the station, read the conditions of carriage the staff would have been within his duty to hold the train there until police arrive so get off your high horse we are not there to serve you like servants its safety, customer service comes sencond to that, once you realise that maybe you would start to treat us with respect than common scum.
I had an evacuation last month and all i had was passengers asking how to get where and how to do this and that....GROW UP. wake up the fire alarms where going off and the station needed to be evacuated immediately and people were upset when i told there abruptly get the hell out we dont have time for this there is an evacuation ghoing on, and when this happens customeer service is no longer on the table safety is so you all need to wake up a little and realise this.

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:06:22 -0000

your last sentanc was perfect, Steroetyping is wrong! how would people react if i said all muslims were terrorists or all black people were in gangs or all white people were pedophiles. NO ONE would accept these comments as they put all from the same social or racial background into the same basket of an extremely few minority. Same applies here DO NOT stereotype, just because no one uses race or religion does not mean that putting all tube staff in the same basket is not as bad. PS no offence was intended im just to show the double standards which exist in society.

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:30:24 -0000

" I'm now living in Asia and although there are less people living in the city I live in, the public transport system here is excellent, even during peak hours and the staff is polite and doesn't scream abuse at passengers"

Possibly just possibly asian customers treat their staff with the respect we here do not get, treat others unto....well you know the reast.

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:28:07 -0000

WHAT, in japan station staff push passengers into trains physically! and japanese commuters treat station staff with great respect as they are in authourity, people here do not, Station staff do not get treated with respect so i could say the same as you but aimed at passengers. Rude or not an instruction is as it is, We do not ask you to stand behind the yellow line we tell you, it is an instruction and if you can take instructions dont take the train, staff are there for safety above all else and if a grey guy cant see sense then maybe he deserved it.

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:20:47 -0000

And we are not paid to take abuse just the same. Service is provided but rules must be adhered to and the staff told he to remove himself from the train, he broke a byelaw and is lucky the btp was not there to arrest him, when a police officer ask you to do something its the same thing, on the railway the staff member is in affect the police and are there to make sure the rules and safety are adhered to. You cannot polite eject someone from the station do yuo live in fairy tail, maybe you do id love to be in that one where everyone sings harp songs and talks to eachother like fairies.

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:02:34 -0000

after dealing with over a hundred customers most likely moaning WHERES MY TRAIN, etc etc maybe he had enough, also it was the safety of the guy which was why he was a bit forceful, i told a man to stand behind the yellow line and he said, i am a company director you cant tell me that, ok i will let them know to put that on his tomb stone if the wind blows a little too hard. My point is the staff may have been over the top but ultimately it was the safety of the man that was at the heart of it, just think. HEADLINE old man falls on track, staff was neglectful of duties... sound better

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:58:49 -0000

every single customer could send in the same complaint and same clip, it would still be only one complaint. You all just want to make an example of the man who barely was abusive and had probably just dealt with a difficult incident involving over a hundred people we only saw footage of the last minute it means nothing.

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:53:28 -0000

nurses earn 15k ? that is lower than i thought or ur opinion of staffs wages are highly over judged.
The work we do sometimes is far more intense and stressful than nurses and lets not even talk about one unders or even 7/7 i was there you know nothing of our job so get lost.

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:48:17 -0000

There are good staff and there are bad, just as there are good customers and bad. I work in the ticket office and trust me %99 of the time the customer is wrong, this is me being honest ok, i am well trained for my job and know the ins and outs of most things to do with tickets etc etc, out of thousands of times ive been wrong a couple and i have apologised those times, truth is customers are mostly wrong.

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:43:54 -0000

you arsehole, lets just run to the hills with axes and torches the man should burn for this, he called him a jumped up little git and a girl.... get a grip on humanity dont you have anything better right about you dumb fuck? like maybe mps claiming thousands for nothing or maybe people being killed, you know things that mean something, you must have soo much time on your hands why dont you make a film about it....my god this is blown way out of proportion

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:39:49 -0000

YES we will because it would be unfair dissmissal, how can you justify sacking him? he did insult the man mildly but not aggressively and to the extent that he deserves the sack get a grip on life, this is it!

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:37:38 -0000

WRONG, i would have finished uni, most of us lul staff are quite intelligent so please dont stereotype. second without us you would walk to work or take 3 buses. You need us far more than we need you.
I agree however with your last sentence, although if the man had broken a byelaw the staff are well within their legal rights to eject him and the police would back them up

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:31:39 -0000

WHAT appuling behaviour? the men were ejected form the train for breaking the conditions of carriadge and byelaws, no one swore, or was rude. GET a life and start living it for christ sake

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:17:45 -0000

he did not swear at him.

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:14:50 -0000

Why should we see you as ppl who pay our wages. We do a job and provide a service, should i then provide none for a child because he/she is free of course not. fares pay tfl and tfl pay our wages. just think about it, most people pay each others wages if that is the case. Where do you work? the chances are 65% that i am paying your wages. Point made thank you

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:06:21 -0000

OLD no he was middle aged
INNOCENT maybe though evidence is only partial and chances are ppl like you with one or two bad incidents would be joining the lynch mob with torches and all regardless.
YOU are being just as abusive by calling them what you did, infact you are worse as you are swearing and being much more offensive.
YOUR public transport service. ok last time i checked it was owned by LUL. I suppose sainsburys is OUR supermarket and HSBC is OUR bank, just think about what your saying.
IM quite sure i will be abused many many more times before i retire by customers of MY employer.

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:58:18 -0000

just for your infromation i work for the tube and i have not received a pay rise in over a year and a half at least. Yes we are on a reasonably good wage but if you had to work these kinds of shifts dealing with extremly difficult ppl you would not have this attitude towards us. 7 days of lates getting home at 3 in morning then after the weekend, 7 earlys getting up at 3 in morning, yes i signed up for this but this is why we earn good, and oxygen is free. why dont we go back to slagging off the real arsehole mps claiming what i earn in 8 months for their second home mortgage. irrelavant but just to show we are losing perspective, sorry for spelling .tired after long shift but i will try not to take too much oxyge as i have no right to it cause i wear a roundel on my shirt

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:49:38 -0000

its tfl that raises fares, the rmt just protect the workers from people like you who would sack him for loosing his cool, he did not swear or assault the guy, he needs to be given a chance to defend his actions its a democracy after all. if you got arrested for assault and everyone was saying it was you, you are to blame wouldnt you think....but i had a reason

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:41:04 -0000

BOTH? only one was saying anything remotely abussive. But i suppose she was in blue so hey all lul staff are the same are they stupid, apes with no brains........i didnt get compensation when a guy threatened to stick a knife in my neck or when i was sexually assaulted or when i was racially abused nope. so why should this MIDDLE AGED MAN get compensation when he refused to listen to an AUTHORISED member of the railway staff, which is a breach of the conditions of carriadge by the way. When it comes to safety you do exactly what the staff member tells you to if you dont you could risk their life yours and others its that simple, the stafff in question should have been a little more pc that is alll

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:34:36 -0000

Its not about training. We are all trained well for our jobs on the underground however you cant train someone how to act when they loos their cool that is ridiculous. It was wrong of him to say what he said and if i were ejecting a member of the public for a good reason i would call for the police and hold the train in the platform i would not swear or say anyting that he could hold against me. Lets face it this such a small thing i have seen members of the public do ten times this abuse with racism and even violence thrown in with not so much of a warning but a staff member saying what HE said (and he didnt swear) and it recieves all this public attention. i was sexually assaulted a few years ago and nothing happened where is that justice?

Re: Ian From The London Underground Vs An Elderly Man

vegeta3113 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:23:00 -0000

no no no NONONO! we are not paid to deal with it, we provide customer service and SAFETY, we do not get paid to take abuse or rude behaviour and if you came to me with that kind of attitude you would get no customer service, i am a human being and i expect the same respect you would give anyone. I bet your the kind of customer who chucks their oyster in the bowl and chucks a ten pound note in with it and just stares at me, or better looks elsewhere...or even better starts chatting on the phone. NO we are all humans not animals we treat eachother with respect and if you cant give respect do not expect it back. PS most of us take rudeness on the chin but abuse never if you abuse a member of staff expect to be ejected by the btp. there is no excuse for treating a customer that way but the opposite apply too.