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Re: Playstation 3 Has Sold 23.8 Million Systems To Date, 189.7 Million Bits Of Software Sold

togoso — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:35:26 -0000

Guess it depends on the games you like. For me:
Halo ODST
Halo Reach
Mass Effect 2
Forza
Alan Wake
L4D2
GTA IV expansions

Compared to
Drake's 2
GT5 (when it comes out)

Oh and MAG 256 players online, using a systems that can barely handle standard 8 vs 8 matches.

But like I said before, let's hope that this slew of games, + price cut represent a shift for Sony, and that it works. It is a good machine that doesn't deserve the recent lack of support Sony are giving it.

Re: Playstation 3 Has Sold 23.8 Million Systems To Date, 189.7 Million Bits Of Software Sold

togoso — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:48:33 -0000

get2sammyb:
"...they should make sure those buying the Playstation-iteration is up to standard, otherwise don't bring it out at all"

What and lose the possible income from the PS3 Market? It is cheaper to port a 360 version than develop a PS3 version from the ground up. They don't care about the Sony brand. They care about the game. The way it should be.

get2sammyb:
"...but they should be making sure fans on Sony's machine aren't getting a rough treatment."

Developers are only interested in making money. They are interested in their customers, irrespective of what system they are on. Do you really think infinity ward really give a damn when 60 million people buy the console version of MW2 whether they are PS3 or 360 owners? No. No they don't. They are interested in only three numbers 60,000,000 x £55 = £3,300,000,000. That's it.

Oh and don't get me wrong there is no difference between Fallout on PS3 or Oblivion, or even GTA in terms of the actual game. However, the fact you can actually get DLC for the 360, that to me as big difference. MS are willing to spend money (re-invest from XBox Live sales) supporting developers so that their clients (Live subscribers) have access to DLC. What is Sony doing about it? Wating six months to a year for the developers to release disc versions, which don't always include all DLC. i.e. Sony are doing nothing. So it's not a moot point. It's a bloody big point that a lot of gamers are going to consider when buying a console. Two consoles both have the same game:

Console A: Is cheaper; the console the game was designed for; has an excellent online setup; will have DLC; has tonnes of good exclusive titles, or

Console B: More expensive; the console the game was not designed for (i.e. ported); has a poor online setup; DLC is not necessarily available (although available for most, some big titles are missing); has few good exclusive titles.

This is such a shame because it is a good machine and can do so well:
Drake's, Killzone, etc. But Sony's lacklustre support of its fans, and lack of support of developers is killing the PS3. Like I said before. Stop developing shit stuff PSP, Home and start investing in games.

Re: Playstation 3 Has Sold 23.8 Million Systems To Date, 189.7 Million Bits Of Software Sold

togoso — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:30:20 -0000

"Thats the developers fault not Sony"

Not exactly true. I mean you build a machine, then make it insanely complex to build games on, do not push developers to produce exclusive titles, instead chose to sit back and watch every MP game be designed on 360 and then ported. I'm afraid Sony have a lot to do in this department.

Gaming has changed, MS is changing with it, Sony is stuck. Gone are the days when MGS and FF are all you needed. They've all gone Multi Platform.
Planning in the long run is a good idea, but you need to get there first and if Sony keeps dropping the ball like this, and in the current financial climate who knows what could happen. We may never get to the point where developers are willing to put the time/effort/cost into exploring and developing PS3 games to their full potential. Why should they? Why put all that money in and sell only to 28 Million people max, when they can settle for a cheaper multi platform approach (ie 360 port) and sell up to 60 Million (ps3+360) or 260 Billion if you include the Wii. Simple economics. Where MS is at least willing to cover some of the costs of developing games in exchange for content, what is Sony doing? Sweet FA. Sony needs to stop concentrating on crap like the PSP (DS rules, and will always rule that market), and concentrate on delivering services (games and a proper online experience), ditch HOME and bring out games for fucks sake. Invest in your fans. Give them exclusive games and DLC, trough developer support.

PSN is a joke. Live is excellent. Oh but you have to pay: well I would rather have to pay £40 a year and get exclusive content for games like GTA IV, Fallout 3, Oblivion and others as wel as a solid online gaming experience, rather than have a online network which is laggy an whose downloads are obviously of a late minute consideration. I had a PS3 with games like GTA, Fallout and Oblivion. I was very disappointed that Sony had not even bothered to secure deals for dlc. So now I am rebuilding my library on my newly purchased 360. My PS3 waiting on a shelf to be sold, no one seems interested in it.

I have been a Sony man (boy->man) for years. Now I feel very let down. The PS3 is maybe a better machine (Although recently that has been doubted:
http://www.bit-tech.net/new.... But the 360 is a far better GAMING experience.