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Re: 216!

the_griper — Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:23:39 -0000

Sorry for taking so long to respond but have been busy here.

Rights cannot be mandated just recognized. we are not mandated to worship per the first amendment and we are not mandated to own a weapon per the second amendment. but we possess the "right" to each and the decision is ours to make as to whether or not to exercise these "rights" and how. we possess the "right" to vote for our leaders but it is up to you and me whether or not we actually exercise that right and vote. it is not the issue that determines a "right" but the ability to say yes or no when we must make a decision in regards to that issue that determines a "right"

government mandates can only deny us our rights. the key to understanding "rights" is the word "no". can we exercise that right or can we choose not to exercise it? it cannot be called a right if the government mandates that we do something or not do something.

we do not have the "right" to murder someone and the laws recognize this. we do not have the "right" to steal and the law recognizes this and the laws serve to take those choices away from us. most important is the fact that rights cannot be mandated to be exercised.

it is not a matter of socialism but a matter of force and this bill forces us to do something thus in essence and meaning of the word "rights" is, in effect,denying us the "right" to medical care by forcing us to buy health insurance. tho, i would add that if you see this as a socialistic program then you are also acknowledging that socialism can only be called a "forced economic system" with the people having no rights at all.

people should have the opportunity to save money by being self-insured if that be their choice. and yes, it would be cheaper in the long run to pay your medical bills yourself rather than buying insurance for it. this bill eliminates that choice.

i won't go into your examples but don't think that i can't rebut them because i can.

Re: 216!

the_griper — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:31:30 -0000

he smiles, You're gonna have to do a little better than that my lovely friend.

1. the examples you used expanded choice and they did so without forbidding choice to anyone just as the 19th amendment expanded it to women without denying it to any man.
2. this bill takes away the right of choice to everyone except for the privileged few and that includes you as well as me.
so my question remains unanswered.

Re: 216!

the_griper — Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:01:26 -0000

you know, my friend, we had a talk once about the government's use of force once. maybe you can explain something to me and I ask this sincerely.

how can anyone who has a history of having the government forcing her people to behave in a manner that took away their right of choice willing submit to and advocate for a program that does the very same thing of taking away her right of choice once more?

Re: Rise Above...Fly Like an Eagle

the_griper — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:41:14 -0000

maybe that is why everyone soars above me when i criticize. lol
a good piece , girl, and one to ponder on then, take to heart.

too many people jump to conclusions or make assumptions without cause.

Re: For Those Who Speak "Negro" (and for Those Who Don't)

the_griper — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:02:36 -0000

he just laughs but doesn't say a word. he dares not after posting his "strip teach" post.

Re: Is God Trying to Tell Us Something?

the_griper — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:06:32 -0000

i wrote my first comment before listening to the song and must add that is a beautiful song and goes perfectly with this post.

Re: Is God Trying to Tell Us Something?

the_griper — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:57:01 -0000

now, you are beginning to sound a little like Pat Robertson.

and if there was a message from God in these events i very much doubt that it would be one that goes against the nature of his own creation as you are proposing.

Re: Sunday Inspirations: The Spider and the Honey Tree

the_griper — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:00:38 -0000

that may be true but self-destruction come in many forms and at times takes others with them. then we have societies tendency to place blame on something other than the person who self-destructed. so, my question remains.

Re: Sunday Inspirations: The Spider and the Honey Tree

the_griper — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:48:06 -0000

he has to chuckle as he says, "ohh, you heartless woman, you and on a glorious Sunday also. How could you present a story of a little girl being so mean to one of God's little creature?"

then he says " Man could learn a lot from that story if he only was able to know which of his fellow men were lazy and which were in real need. do we feed the lazy as well as the needy so that we can be sure that we leave no needy without food?"

Re: Sunday Inspirations: Haiti, Job Redux

the_griper — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:40:41 -0000

you know, my dear, it has always been my contention that the poor of any nation are the heart and soul of a nation. for it is there that we find the faith of a nation just as we find the hope of a nation in our children.
and when i see this it gives the words of Jesus even greater meaning when He said that the poor will always be with us.

Re: The Wisdom of 21 Queen's Meme

the_griper — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:31:50 -0000

a woman at a loss for words? now i've heard everything said under the sun. lol
wanna fight, i'll give plenty to talk about. lol

Re: American, Will that Check Clear Now?

the_griper — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:24:49 -0000

"I'm just wondering, on the day we celebrate the life of Martin Luther King, Jr, if the check will clear now? What about you?

ahhhh, good question. it depends upon you perspective now days. that, in itself, says a lot. the fact i see greater diversity among the blacks, whether it be socially or politically also says a lot. some have already cashed in that check, it seems.

is it perfect? the answer is no but man's justice will never be perfect, only God's justice can. can it be more improved? sure it can but i think it will only be more improved on an individual level now, not on a collective level.

the choice is up to us as individuals now. the harry reids of this nation are becoming a smaller minority every day. and people like the Revs. Jackson and Sharpton are becoming more insignificant too.

I think King's dream is bearing fruit and it is a good fruit.

Re: Oh Yeah, and About this Light Skin Negro Dialect Thing...

the_griper — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:38:32 -0000

go get 'em, girl. get those claws out and scratch some eyes out. lol
this is one where i won't even try to argue on.
shuckens, you took the fun outta it this time. oh well there is always the next time. lol

Re: America: Land of the Free (and Illiterate)

the_griper — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 04:17:17 -0000

ainch you glad we went to skool at a time when me and you got a reel ejukation? :)
new jersy,,ain't that a new type of milk cow?
and sure we have a clue about civics. they are honda cars, no? everyone knows that.:)
as for history,,learning about the events were fun,, it was the memorization of dates i hated. :) i'm lucky if i can guess the right century of the events.
then don't forget to go to college where you can retake all of yur hi skool classes over again :)

Re: Can't a Brotha Catch a Break?

the_griper — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:06:26 -0000

ahhh nice try, sojourner, very nice try but you haven't caught me yet. :)
if you wanna speak strictly in terms of affordability you have chosen an argument that will definately show that it isn't a chicken/egg issue.
there are always doctors who will treat a person free of charge. in fact i will "bet" that most doctors have patients that are unable to pay.

but show me a insurance company, including medicare, who will issue an insurance policy free of charge.

one more thing i'll say. this discuission was the inspiration for my latest post. so, again i want to thank you for the inspiration.

Re: Can't a Brotha Catch a Break?

the_griper — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:41:00 -0000

" I also believe that we agree that there is a need for health reform and along with it affordable health care."

i agree but first we must agree that we are talking about "health care" costs. in this discussion we'd be talking about the high costs of doctor bills etc. that we would be paying out of our pocket.

the argument now is over "health care insurance" costs. in this discussion we'd be discussing the costs of getting someone else (insurance companies) to pay for those doctor bills etc.

these are two separate issues. they are not one and the same issue. to equate the two is misleading and, in my opinion, a dishonest argument on the part of the politicians.

Re: Can't a Brotha Catch a Break?

the_griper — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:03:34 -0000

he grins then whispers bashfully "thank you"

freedom of choice is the exercising of your free will. and that is the meaning behind the god-given rights of liberty and the pursuit of happiness. and in the recognition of this, we know that our good choices benefit us while we must suffer the consequences of our bad choices.

but they must be choices made by you and me, not forced upon us by government mandates. free will is, in my opinion, the most valuable gift that God has granted to mankind and the individual. and myself, i don't appreciate the government depriving me of the right to exercise that gift. i accept the consequences of my bad choices in life but i do not like accepting the consequences for the bad choices others make.

and i think i made my point with this issue. i was just pointing out some very important flaws in the senate bill. we'll see what happens when the house and senate come together and come up with a bill together now. we'll probably "fight" over that one too. lol.

but just remember one thing, i enjoy these debates with you.

as for medicare and the public option, you forgot two options. there is always the private option as well as the personal option.

Re: Can't a Brotha Catch a Break?

the_griper — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:52:58 -0000

there is a big difference between medicare and private insurance, my sweet.
the government can consentually and voluntarily enter into contracts. and your tax dollars, paid involuntarily, are used to make payment on these contracts.

medicare is a health program where the government has entered into a contract with the medical profession. it is not a contract between you and government thus they can tax you to pay the medical profession.

a private insurance policy declares a contract entered into consentually and voluntarily between the policy holder and insurance company.

contracts, by law, are only valid if entered into consentually and voluntarily. so, you see, while the two may appear to be alike there is a big difference in the contracting parties. and as you see both parties enter into each contract above consentually and voluntarily as it should happen.

one last thing to think about as a Christian woman. insurance companies are like the gambling houses in vegas. they both use the same principle to make a profit, odds of probility of occurance. that premium that you pay to the insurance company is your bet. you are betting that one of the illness described in that policy will occur to you. the insurance company is betting that it won't.
do you like the idea of government forcing you to gamble your hard earned dollar away or do you believe that should be yours and my choice?

Re: Can't a Brotha Catch a Break?

the_griper — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:11:21 -0000

i don't disagree that we need affordable health care. what i don't agree with is the government forcing us to buy insurance for it. that is not the essense of the right to liberty and pursuit of happiness. that should be "our choice" if health care is a personal right as the left contends. when the government enacts laws they are declaring that it is the "right" of government to make that choice not the individual.

we consent to paying taxes, me lovely, but voluntarily, no. that why we needed a second constitution, because those responsible for funding the federal government under our first constitution wouldn't pay their "fair" share voluntarily even though they consented to it. there is a big difference between giving consent and voluntary.

and remember taxes are the "only" debt that can result in a prison term if not paid. we pay taxes because we are "forced" to.

as to your daily kos article, regardless of how you read it, it is still unconstitutional. every bill or any section of any bill can only require a majority vote to be repealed or passed.

now, the constitution allows each house to make up their own rules in regards to the process of getting a bill passed or repealed, thus the filibuster would fall under this catagory. but that is not a part of any law written and enacted. there is a difference.

the rules of the senate and the laws they enact are two separate things. you can't make rules of the senate a part of the law of the land. to make rules of either house a part of the bill is to declare that the other house must consent to that rule also since both houses must pass the same bill as written. i'll have to say that daily kos used some clever language to cover up this difference also.

the only time a bill needs a super majority is when the President vetoes a bill. and then it only requires a 2/3 majority to override that veto. the only other thing necessitating a super majority is in the passing of an amendment to the constitution.

Re: Can't a Brotha Catch a Break?

the_griper — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:09:18 -0000

sure, by forcing everyone to buy insurance and penalizing those that don't. that is a real good plan, my lovely.

then mr. reid put a clause in it that says a certain section cannot be repealed.

besides, i think it will be pretty hard to get the final bill passed when both houses try for a compromised bill.

besides if some legal scholars are right, it will be challenged and found unconstitutional in the form it is in now.

another thing, its going to be awhile before it gets to the President's desk for his signature, probably right close to election time and there are a lot of folks out there that do not like the idea of going socialistic in this country.

Re: Ya'll, I'm Still Here!

the_griper — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:46:41 -0000

awwww shuckens girl, i knew you were still here some where. i missed my lovely antagonist in debate. wouldn't be any fun without you. :)
welcome back to our world and Merry Christmas.

Re: Mercury Morris: On What Planet Do You Spend Most of Your Time?

the_griper — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:33:31 -0000

ha ha ha, cats and dogs or birds wouldn't apply, i don't believe, but you get the idea.
religious intolerence is a form of bigotry, and specifically addressed in the Constitution.
so is poltical intolerence. this is shown by the tolerence we have in this country towards certain political ideas.
we can also cite examples of both bigoted thoughts in the world. The KKK and other white supremists are a couple of the best known examples of it here in this nation. bigotry knows no color or nationality either.
i always like to say " a bigot is one who is so afraid of another man's way of thinking that he will do anything to eliminate that thought because it is superior to his own."

then he smiles as he says, btw, this little post of yours and discussion was an inspiration to me for my latest post on my site called "politics of war and peace".

Re: Mercury Morris: On What Planet Do You Spend Most of Your Time?

the_griper — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:02:11 -0000

he grins, ahhh another disagreement that could be debated between us :) i'd have to be on Mercury's side in this debate over the use of words. there is a difference between the two words of bigotry and racism. they are not synonymous. a person may be bigoted without being a racist but a person cannot be racist without also being seen as being a bigot.
bigotry recognizes any intolerance. racism recognizes a specific intolerance.

Re: What Shall I Tell My Children Who Are Black?

the_griper — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:01:23 -0000

he just grins as he says, who says we cannot agree on things. lol

Re: What Shall I Tell My Children Who Are Black?

the_griper — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:01:34 -0000

i'd have to agree with the both of you on this issue. the only difference being is that change has occured so fast that you and i lived long enough to see and feel the difference. very few generations throughout history can say that. your kids will only be able to read about them. in a way your kids are the lucky ones. in a way you and i are the lucky ones.