Re: Snow-shoeing and how to avoid it :: Return Path Blog

spamfighter — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:07:05 -0000

Hi Jeff,

you are clearly not in the billing department of your company! ;-)

That would be monthly volume.

Re: Snow-shoeing and how to avoid it :: Return Path Blog

spamfighter — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:52:28 -0000

Hi there, thanks for your question. I raised it with the Postmaster team at AOL - they referred me to their brand-new postmaster page - http://postmaster.aol.com - specifically

http://postmaster.aol.com/P...

The operative phrase is "Additionally, your request must comply with *ONE*one of our measures of IP ownership." (emphasis mine. In other words, obviously if you are using an outsourced DNS service like Ultradns, you would be able to qualify based upon the clause you cite. But you have four other ways to prove ownership.

Hope this helps, good luck!

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Neil Schwartzman
Director, Certification Security & Standards
Return Path Inc.
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Re: Return Path - The Reckoning of My 2008 Unpredictions

spamfighter — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:46:40 -0000

"3. Spammers won't take over the email universe. Although big waves of spam will continue to burst forth every few months with new techniques appearing simultaneously, marketers and ISPs will continue to fight the war against spam by utilizing reputation, accreditation and authentication as their main lines of defense.

Thumbs up: Spammers didn't take over. Email still thrives for both personal and commercial use. But that doesn't mean we can rest. The spammers are ever-evolving and determined to wreck the channel. We can't let them."

Respectfully, after all you are THE Boss, but sadly precious few marketers help to fight spam. In fact, much the opposite. Forgive the generalization, but few anti-spammers would disagree with the statement that marketers demand what precious little time that they have, raising holy hell over "false positives" and "unfair blockages" or legitimate mail

Marketers could help themselves a trremendous amount by moving wholesale to confirmed (double) opt-in which would negate spamtrap hits (aprt from confirmation messages, and that is manageable) and attenauting, drastically, user complaints, as well as providing the moral and technical high-ground they need to be able to argue about the validity of a given trap hit or complaint leading to a block.

Marketers should outright and actively be HELPING blacklists by sending them submissions of actual spam (UIRBL Phishtank are great places to start), and putting money where their mouth is - support any DNSBL that will accept your money, donate to CAUCE.org so we can continue our work with all levels of government and international law enforcement (where the fight to deal with this viral problem really lies), and again, clean up your act so it is pristine, so the receivers and DNSBL operators don't need to hear from you, ever. That leaves them time to fight the good fight.

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