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Re: Joey Guerra

Jonathan Keith — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 20:32:31 -0000

The spec just describes the protocol and gives guidance on implementation. It's not like implementation is mandated or expected. It seems like the easiest thing to do is pop a 406 on anything other than the format my feature calls for unless I have a reason to do otherwise, because of this reason, also from the spec:

3. It complicates the implementation of an origin server and the
algorithms for generating responses to a request.

The main point I was trying to make was that I feel a generic solution for this, which is the only thing that would make it approachable at all from a business/time perspective, will eventually run into some edge cases. On top of that, I have to use whatever technology said generic solution(s) are built on.

I'm not saying this strategy is useless, I can think of some cases where it actually would add some value, too. I just don't see usefulness in the generic sense covering "all websites". Most of the hang-ups that come to mind involve input/forms. Then there's the SPA, making all those ajax calls for JSON data. Do I really need to spend time making an HTML representation of that endpoint? What's the value there?

Re: Joey Guerra

Jonathan Keith — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 01:10:08 -0000

Good arguments, but to counter, it seems like a feature that can only be made generic for the common case. For example, even with such a solution, once you get outside of one model per page, you're in trouble. Someone is off implementing 4 different views or formatters for each model and content type for every page like this while someone else ships countless new html-only features to prod.

The main phrase I take issue with is "every website". There has to be some reason that most sites, including any I've ever been asked to build, don't do this. Does the True.com sign-up page really need a JSON, XML, and CSV representation? I think we've run into 'delivery > ideal perfection' again.

Re: 105.3 The FAN - Stars Find Scoring From Unexpected Places In 5-4 OT Win Over Red Wings

Jonathan Keith — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:15:07 -0000

Amazing game and a great recap. Keep it up Stars! (...and you too, Jay)