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Ok so I just realized how much I miss having a custom tone for text messages… I know the standard one is very clean and fits in with the whole theme of the phone very well but with all the customization options on the Pre I can't imagine why the only thing you can select for are phone calls.
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I'm pretty sure if people are vocal enough about such an easy change then Palm will respond fairly quickly.
The Pre is just as much a me-too copy of the iPhone as the iPhone is a me-too copy of Windows Mobile.
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Think they really are the same? Try running Pandora while navigating on the iPhone.
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Or try going back to the contact you last worked with after you looked something up on the web.
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These aren't exotic examples of what you might expect to do on a PDA.
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I'm not trying to knock the iPhone. I think it is a great phone. But Apple has some catching up to do with WebOS. The notification feature of the iPhone is not a very good substitute for running multiple apps concurrently.
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All of which is to say: The pre is no me-too phone.
Absolutely right! It is a logical fallacy that an initial lack of apps relative to the competition means the phone won't succeed, and the iPhone is the best proof of that.
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But it is very important that lots of apps get written for the new machine. And one of the factors that determines how many apps are written for it is how easy it is to develop for it. I think that javascript/html/css is a pretty smart choice. Objective C has a steep learning curve, and the number of apps that crash on startup is a testament to that fact.
The argument that Palm is doomed because of the size of the iPhone market is belied by Apple's history. 10 years ago Apple was in the same position as Palm. Windows had the attention of developers and it was the main argument against Apple.
Let me first state that I think that the Palm WebOS is extremely innovative and creative. But to compare the Pre to the iPhone is like comparing the success of Tiger Woods to a first year college player. The problem for Palm that they will likely never overcome is that apple and windows mobile has the attention of the development community and they will simply never catch up from an apps standpoint, which is what people seem to want these days. Let's see what happens, but I don't think it looks good for the Pre or any future WebOS phone.
Ok first of all - I see all this talk about 'getting lost in the noise'. Well welcome to the real goddamn world. You can't just build something and expect it to do well. Look at Facebook apps. Do most of them gain such a large distribution just because they are great quality? NO. A tremendous amount of resources are put into distribution. yes, on Facebook distribution is more of a mathematical formula as opposed to in the iPhone world - where word of mouth, marketing and publicity play a bigger role. There are many things one must do. One key area that is lacking is marketing for iPhone apps and that's really what developers need to focus on building partnerships for.
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Remember youtube videos and the techcrunch article where the guy talked about how he made youtube videos go viral and that requires a lot of people posting links on forums and what not to reach a critical mass? So yes, social media and WOM and all that can help spread the word of a product thats truly remarkable (Seth Godin talks a lot about this) but you need to invest money in distribution - and for iphone thats more of an art compared to Facebook which is more of a science.
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Also what about platforms such as openfeint within iPhone? that might help eh? Palm will never have the community iPhone will.
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Matt, well researched article that presents a smarting balance of the issues at bay…for $PALM, not having a plethora of apps on their marketplace is more an opportunity than an issue!
This is a silly statement. Did the author actually talk to any Android developers? I develop for Android and have a friend who develops for iPhone. I can tell you that getting up and running writing native apps with Android is far easier. It was not a challenge to get my head around it.
As for luring devs with money, Google just announced the second Android Developer Challenge, with something like $2 million in total prize money. That might be enough to lure some devs to the platform.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-13_10:18:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "ef1d48144761a6af8cce89394fd6f1d5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11510276": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ok first of all - I see all this talk about 'getting lost in the noise'. Well welcome to the real goddamn world. You can't just build something and expect it to do well. Look at Facebook apps. Do most of them gain such a large distribution just because they are great quality? NO. A tremendous amount of resources are put into distribution. yes, on Facebook distribution is more of a mathematical formula as opposed to in the iPhone world - where word of mouth, marketing and publicity play a bigger role. There are many things one must do. One key area that is lacking is marketing for iPhone apps and that's really what developers need to focus on building partnerships for.
Remember youtube videos and the techcrunch article where the guy talked about how he made youtube videos go viral and that requires a lot of people posting links on forums and what not to reach a critical mass? So yes, social media and WOM and all that can help spread the word of a product thats truly remarkable (Seth Godin talks a lot about this) but you need to invest money in distribution - and for iphone thats more of an art compared to Facebook which is more of a science.
Also what about platforms such as openfeint within iPhone? that might help eh? Palm will never have the community iPhone will.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-20_16:31:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "facebook-3623416", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10825779, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10876295": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Well for those who thing the pre is just css/js/html you are wrong. People have already gotten DOOM to run with hardware accel this is a big deal. The initial API will be css/js/html, but they will allow direct hardware APIs. Remember this is just running linux, so there are millions of devs out there with knowledge of the underbelly of the pre.
Face it, the pre offers a great dev platform for web-scrape apps (most iphone apps) that can be powered by css/js/html - web 2.0 people... Are you living under a rock? Google just announced html5 is the new application platform - the pre is already there...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-13_21:59:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "64917ee22bc65debe7abb1a70cb14e99", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10814986": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"You can have a developer working on web work in Java, another working on middleware in Java, and another on the desktop in Java, but none of them have the knowledge to be effective in each of the other areas.\"
That is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If your java developer can't be effective in all of these area, you hired a shitty java developer.
\"However, Sepulveda says WebOS is much easier for most up-and-coming developers than Android because its core elements \u2014 Javascript, HTML and CSS \u2014 are better understood by them. Android is based on Java, which is a language known by lots of developers, but it\u2019s also a beast to grasp.\"
Absurd as well. Java is far easier to program with than using JS/HTML/CSS.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_16:59:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "f36a73fb3bd9c38ae20f4251d2f92c72", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10841611": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I do think many smartphone buyers will be looking for games, but I think many are also looking to \"keep connected\". They want email, news, twitter, stocks, etc. They want to view their family photos and videos on a good screen.
For these users, I think Palm has an edge. I one of the crazy people who waited on line for the iPhone launch two years ago, but I have happily given up my iPhone for a Pre. Having multiple applications open makes it easy to quickly check my email, twitter, latest news, etc. I keep Evernote open to capture random thoughts or to-dos.
I also spend a lot more time with my Pre -- the experience is much stickier whereas the iPhone was get-in and get-out, at least for me.
On the game question, it will be interesting to see how Palm responds to the soon-to-be gray market; Doom has already been hacked into the Pre.
I also think all the App Catalog/Store/World/etc are really inefficient, at least right now. Apple, Palm, RIM and Google could do a lot more to help users find the apps they are interested in. The result would be good for everyone -- more sales and happier users. That could also help change the economic incentives for developers.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-13_12:57:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "chris_pivotal", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10840714, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10845966": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hi Derek, as VB's resident Android fanboy until I met Christian on Thursday I agreed with Rich Miner statement we cited above that \"Android is the best platform to build and iterate on\". As you also say writing native apps with Android is far easier.
However, I find in discussions that it is still a minority opinion. That's what Matt's above statement refers to.
After talking to Christian, who's one of the first developers to comment on his with WebOS, I've got reasons to believe that WebOS has some advantages which make prototyping and testing easier vis-a-vis Android.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-13_16:36:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "facebook-1230725576", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10838147, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11858065": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Absolutely right! It is a logical fallacy that an initial lack of apps relative to the competition means the phone won't succeed, and the iPhone is the best proof of that.
But it is very important that lots of apps get written for the new machine. And one of the factors that determines how many apps are written for it is how easy it is to develop for it. I think that javascript/html/css is a pretty smart choice. Objective C has a steep learning curve, and the number of apps that crash on startup is a testament to that fact.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-28_13:46:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "remon", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11837815, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10825874": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I think it depends on your goals. Many of the people we meet have an idea, but lack a coherent application definition -- user interaction, details on features, etc.
It is really useful to be able to iterate and experiment and evolve your application and to discover (t0 a degree) the best user experience for your idea.
The cost of development is going to either enable or restrict an application's ability to converge on what ultimately succeeds.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_23:14:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "chris_pivotal", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10818718, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10821828": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Aaron and Johann,
Agreed. What's interesting about this article is the direct correlation between developer interest and platform success.
I don't believe it is anywhere near this simple.
So yes, being the first to launch an app on Pre would be a good position to be in - at least for the short term. But that is *not* the same thing as the success of the platform in general. There's obviously a connection between customer interest and developer interest. We could also go down the chicken / egg path of arguing which is more important for the success of the platform.
But I believe that the sheer momentum of the iPhone/Touch market is enough to propel it a long way and will make it very tough for Pre, Android or any other competitor to catch up. Now that Apple has added some significant features and developer candy in iPhone OS 3 I wouldn't want to be backing any other company at this time.
All the new USB/bluetooth hardware tricks and the trickle / subscription pay models introduced with iPhone 3 are exciting developers at a time that Pre needs to be attracting them.
I figure that Apple is going to have to go stagnant for a *long* time OR a game-changing technology / paradigm shift will have to show up in order to unseat Apple.
it's going to be interesting to watch though.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_20:14:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "79de7926f331c3c76b0be2a6d8969644", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10949533": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "To the comment about games driving hardware sales: this is an argument that surfaced when PCs were being commoditized a few years ago. By contrast, smartphones can be seen as an extreme form of mobile computing with plenty of innovation ahead to overcome miniaturization, performance and cost challenges.
I've surveyed the applications I most use on my G1 and could not think of one not suitable for webOS development. The issue of games elludes me as I'm not a gamer, I mostly read and communicate using these devices.
I do wonder about networking and graphics programming on webOS but, excluding games and VoIP (which carriers resent), how much is left that's not possible in mobile applications?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-15_18:12:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "5182e4879ff980b3bb88eb44505178a9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10818718": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Developing on the Pre first is just bad advice. Ease of development should be pretty low on the list of factors.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_18:17:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "1cf1ee771fc280b59d1923126f1900d5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10824223": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Pre has a long way to go. After Monday it's 15 min of fame ended.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_21:52:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "a154387406389982961fdd479ec1c4ce", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10819056": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "vise-like grip.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_18:28:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "4cad269d3e027e42de57ae268e3d3bbb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10814121": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "His points are valid. Phones should use web technologies, and, although google advocates it, android does not offer a 'web based' framework to build apps on. There are projects like Phonegap (http://phonegap.com) that do just that: allow you to build conventional HTML based apps on iPhone or Android that can make use of all the phones capabilities.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_16:34:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "c7306b4d8907a69957585d1fce610c65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11836843": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Let me first state that I think that the Palm WebOS is extremely innovative and creative. But to compare the Pre to the iPhone is like comparing the success of Tiger Woods to a first year college player. The problem for Palm that they will likely never overcome is that apple and windows mobile has the attention of the development community and they will simply never catch up from an apps standpoint, which is what people seem to want these days. Let's see what happens, but I don't think it looks good for the Pre or any future WebOS phone.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-27_15:42:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "mbldev", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10820012": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Umm... you are making the assumption that \"easy development\" is the sole thing that will attract developers.
More important than the ease of development, Apple just announced that their user base for the iPhone/iPod Touch is 40 Million!
THAT's what attracts developers. Money.
Not exclusively, but it's huge motivator. How long will it take for the Pre to get a user base that is even a reasonable fraction of that?
This logical failure just makes the rest of the article look like a Pre puff piece.... oh, perhaps that's what it was.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_18:59:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "79de7926f331c3c76b0be2a6d8969644", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10960690": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The iPhone may indeed be a mobile PC but the trend on full fledged PCs has been clearly moving toward web apps replacing desktop ones.
Why is this so, and remembering that it was their success that has pushed the browser platform forward and not vice versa? The ease of iteration on the web was originally not because of ease of development, but of deployment.
App stores and OTA updates have made deployment trivial, whether on the iPhone or the Pre. What's left is the ease of development in a dynamic language and a an army of developers that will have a short ramp up time to start developing for the Pre. If Palm can capitalize on that it has a shot at succeeding.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-16_00:38:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "5182e4879ff980b3bb88eb44505178a9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10901422": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Palm WebOS may find competition in #Android Scripting Env supporting Python, Lua, BeanShell (TODO: Ruby & JavaScript). I hope, Groovy too.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-14_18:55:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "shonzilla", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10826032": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I agree with much of what you wrote. On your last point though, no one has to unseat Apple to be a success -- it is not zero-sum game.
Some are predicting the smartphone market, particularly in the US, is growing by as much as 70% this year. (http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/04/phone-shipme...). There is room for many of the platforms to succeed.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_23:22:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "chris_pivotal", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10821828, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10815538": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yes it's easier but it's not even close to as capable.
The phone isn't much more than a souped up web browser.
So no, it's not going to touch the iPhone except in apps that are just connections into a web presence.
It may catch up to Apple on this but it will take a long time to see that happen.
Because the smart phone is now just a mobile computer, I think the players will be Microsoft, Apple, and Google (representing Linux). Apple has a good head start and Microsoft is severely lagging. Google is accelerating and may get enough momentum to take the lead....but I wouldn't bet on it.
The phones are each sticky, meaning users will be resistant to jumping camps so at least for now Apple's early lead is a huge advantage....but they were in the boat with early Apple II's years ago and they blew it. If they look hard at why they blew it...they might figure out a way to keep history from repeating.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_17:16:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "facebook-1463444015", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10825779": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I agree the iPhone market attracts developers, but it is hard to stand out in the 50,000 apps in the App Store. So unless the developer has a business model and promotion/marketing plan, it is really hard to make money in the App Store.
The Palm Pre doesn't need 40 million users to be attractive. For a lot of developers, if they are on the device early, they can accumulate good reviews and lots of downloads early. As the market grows, so does their opportunity to charge or make money via other means.
I know a variety of iPhone app developers, who were out at launch and established their app early. In those cases, their app continues to make money today. However, some of those same developers released other apps, and they got lost in the noise of the App Store and have not made any real return on those later apps. (As a note, many of their later apps were actually a lot better --- but it was too hard to get anyone to see them.)
There are hundreds of millions of web users, but how easy is it to make money when you launch a new web app?
But I think interest in the platform is what drives a lot of developers and it will be a personal preference to develop for iPhone, webOS, Android or Blackberry.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_23:10:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "chris_pivotal", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10820012, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10999838": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Matt, well researched article that presents a smarting balance of the issues at bay...for $PALM, not having a plethora of apps on their marketplace is more an opportunity than an issue!
thanks again for the smarting read!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-16_14:07:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "facebook-557111035", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10840714": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "@HK - I also worry that the upcoming Pre SDK will not allow developers to write close enough to the metal to create sophisticated games or complex applications. It's possible that Palm doesn't see games as important to their target demographic or that they don't want to risk having applications running that can crash the device or put it into a modal state.
Christian, you mentioned that the smartphone market is expected to grow about 70% this year. I would expect that many of those growth users are not going to be business users and that applications such as games are going to be very, very important to capturing a slice of that market. As a game developer, I would love to see Palm open up the SDK enough to put that nice graphics core to work.
We have avoided developing for the iPhone because of the poor signal to noise ratio in the app store. Here's are some of the trends we expect to see in regard to iPhone development over the next 12 months.
1) The downward pressure on App prices and poor ROI in the near term is going to continue the poliferation of \"ringtone apps\".
2) Once the ringtone apps stop bringing in any money (if they ever did for most people), the quick-buck developers will leave the platform.
3) After the ringtone app developers flee the platform, it leaves it open to the more serious development efforts. The problem is that pricing model is heavily tilted toward the very inexpensive or free apps. So, I think it will be very, very hard for developers to charge $30.00 or more on the platform to recover the costs of sophisticated development.
4) It will be interesting to see what this means for games. Even though platforms like the PSP have a smaller installed base, the consumer has been conditioned to expect higher prices for the experience and you certainly have a more targed demographic. I wouldn't be surprised if the ROI was way better on the PSP/PSP Go in the near future than on the iPhone.
5) It's possible that micropayments might help recover the cost of development for some games and applications but I still think that's a long shot for the majority of developers.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-13_12:16:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "facebook-1268568911", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11866303": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ok so I just realized how much I miss having a custom tone for text messages... I know the standard one is very clean and fits in with the whole theme of the phone very well but with all the customization options on the Pre I can't imagine why the only thing you can select for are phone calls.
I'm pretty sure if people are vocal enough about such an easy change then Palm will respond fairly quickly.
http://www.palmpreforum.org This is all about the plam pre", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-28_21:20:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "coolfx35", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10888769": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I think this posting is just a bunch of hot air ;) The Pre, like WinMo, will be out in many form factors -- preventing standardization of accessories, etc, that have made iPhones & iPods >the< standard. I doubt we'll be seeing dedicated PalmPorts in cars anytime soon.
Having pre-ordered a iPhone 3Gs, I'm floored at the wide availability of accessories and addons from my new toy, especially having come from being a longtime WinMo user. A very slick leather case for $14, with free shipping -- comeption is great. I'm used to purchasing a device and hoping it becomes popular enough for stuff to come out for it, and then paying much more that that. As a consumer, I want it all as easy as possible -- and I seem to have stumbled upon just that. As this trend continues, it'll only get better.
Not that the Palm stuff won't catch on and find a market, but it ain't killin no iPhones :) Android, Windows Mobile, Symbian, Palm and others are pretty much just diluting what's left over...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-14_13:36:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "benjitek", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10837060": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "This is absurd. Since the Pre does not have Java, or C/C++ to write applications, complex applications can not be written. Simple apps can be done quickly, that's about it.
For example, many of the good games on the iPhone or Android can never be written for the Pre.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-13_09:01:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "c06efc73dfbcfba7d74aa32df46b5586", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10815815": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "These things always come down to the ecosystem and SDK. If Pre can show how they make it easy for the pre-existing web developers not to have to learn a new methodology to be mobile broadband ready (while getting full benefits of marketplace, distribution, e-wallet), then they have a chance, as there are a lot of LAMP types that are sitting on the sidelines wrt mobile because they don't want to learn another methodology.
Now obviously they face a tremendous chicken/egg wrt attracting both consumers and developers, since consumers now see this as an apps play, and all of the apps are on iPhone. Plus, apps developers can develop and reach a footprint of 40M iPhone/iPod touch devices, which is pretty darn compelling.
Either way, it is not a foregone conclusion of zero sum, save for skepticism that RIM can penetrate consumer base at this level (disclaimer: I am a happy BB owner and iPod touch owner) and questions whether Java will be an Achilles heel for Android.
I would say that as a Ruby on Rails shop, it is unsurprising that Pivotal Labs sees Pre/WebOS as the preferred development model.
Some fodder on Apple Worldwide Developer Conference this week, which provides relativity to this topic can be found here:
Apple WWDC Keynote Analysis: Punishing the Wizard, Part Two http://bit.ly/2lC3yC
I really think it's more about perception and how games and other high end software shift that perception of the device. I'm already seeing articles like this one:
\"This is not a subtle distinction, either. Apple has evolved the iPhone in ways that we could not have imagined when it came out two years ago. The new OS 3.0 games are 3D in nature and provide a rich game experience similar to that on a PC. Games on other smartphones are weak by comparison.\"
...
\"It's unfair to Palm to ask whether the Pre is an iPhone killer. In fact, even trying to put it in the same class as the iPhone is dooming it to failure. The Pre and others are excellent smartphones, but they're phones, not PC platforms. \"
Not good. They are basically putting the Pre into the toy category while the iPhone gets put into the pocket computer category. You and I know that both devices have very similar hardware (I believe the CPU and GPU are actually the same or very similar).
We're going to see more and more of this chasm between full featured desktop class operating systems running on mobile hardware and everyone else. Apple clearly has a desktop OS running at the heart of the iPhone. I don't know enough about Palm's WebOS to know where it falls but the media is starting to make the call based on what they see (or don't see) running on the devices. As an aside, Microsoft is at a cross-roads with Windows Mobile. In my opinion, Microsoft really should move away from a seperate code base and put a trimmed down version of Windows 7 on mobile hardware. Of course, I'm not sure how you would support all of the existing software written for Windows Mobile 6.5 and lower (VM maybe?). Then there's the cost to retool the development pipeline. Sounds complicated, which is why the momentum and excellent development tools that gave Windows Mobile an advantage in the past is likely one of the things holding it back from making the necessary transition away from the WinCE core.
In any case, it will be a very interesting generation of devices. As a note, I use a Palm Pre as my primary device and despite the somewhat flaky build quality (everything is loose - it feels like it will explode into atoms if I drop it), I love it.
-Vance", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-15_23:00:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "facebook-1268568911", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11837815": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The argument that Palm is doomed because of the size of the iPhone market is belied by Apple's history. 10 years ago Apple was in the same position as Palm. Windows had the attention of developers and it was the main argument against Apple.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-27_16:26:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "5182e4879ff980b3bb88eb44505178a9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11836843, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10947281": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Why do you think so many people go with PHP over Java for web development?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-15_17:07:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "7fd64fbdca43b3e0f3263df184167b30", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10814986, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10886627": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I agree that the Pre provides a great experience and the \"keep connected\" crowd will be hooked once they get a taste of Pre's multitasking.
The issue I have with the lack of games (and I am certainly biased) is that games move hardware. Even if you don't play games, they give the consumer the impression of a powerful, modern device. Multitasking aside, the average consumer won't be able to tell the difference between a Twitter client on Palm vs Apple, but they will notice the difference between Connect 4 (the only game on the Pre - although I understand more are coming) VS hardware accelerated 3D on the iPhone.
Also, I would bet that eventually XNA, Windows Mobile 7 and the XBOX ecosystem are going to collide (Late 2010?). The Zune HD is already a very early step in this direction. The clock is seriously ticking and the ball really is in Palm's court. They have a great device, a very compelling platform but we've all seen compelling, sophisticated platforms dissolve right out of the market (Amiga?).
As for the grey market, my guess is that Palm will ignore it. Unless it becomes very, very easy to modify the device, I think it will represent a very small percentage of the installed base.
-Vance", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-14_12:10:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "91ee2488f04bd88362929120fc6939d8", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10841611, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10814810": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "My prediction is that Palm will displace RIM/Blackberry and Apple in the smartphone market in the next 3 years. WebOS and the Pre are one revolutionary generation in front of both.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_16:53:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "0804af8b24f34e52f09f87adb25c68cd", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10901343": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The Palm Pre is such a me-too phone, why not buy the original from Apple with a faster chip
Chris http://worstiphoneapps.blogspot.com", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-14_18:55:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "b1abf4fdbba3945418e4e58ec53dc07d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10826210": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The android market already has 6,000. apps. Sure most are crap (like the iphone app store), but there are enough in there to do almost everything I want. I imagine Pre will rapidly ramp up on apps as well. The ability to make custom background apps alone should more than justify the lack of hardware tricks.
I don't see a lack of apps as hurting the other markets (Pre/Android/win mobile). I see only a (perceived) crumminess of the device.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_23:31:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "f36a73fb3bd9c38ae20f4251d2f92c72", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10821828, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10974563": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "PHP is much more designed for rendering HTML, JS, and CSS. In other words it ties into (required) client technologies better.
That being said, I see no reason a new web developer should learn php. Ruby or python (esp. with a good framework) are much better choices", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-16_05:13:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "f36a73fb3bd9c38ae20f4251d2f92c72", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10947281, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10877393": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The Pre has very little to offer to users over the iPhone. Already AT&T is sold out of iPhone 3G S. Just announced today. iPhone just offers much more for users and leads the pack in OS and UI advantages.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-13_23:21:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "a154387406389982961fdd479ec1c4ce", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "16041065": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Palm has one advantage over Apple: they don't sell laptops or desktops. Apple won't want to cannibalize sales of those items by making the iPhone too powerful. Palm doesn't have that concern. The Pre, and successive iterations of WebOS devices, has the potential to become a true primary computing device as I describe in this blog post: http://www.thegeniusfiles.com/thoughts-on-using...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-09-05_22:12:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "thegeniusfiles", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "3 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10821867": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Aaron, I believe the number is over 40,000 apps now.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_20:15:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "maniacdev", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10974573": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "In other words, the reason for PHP is solely because it is easier to render client pages with it. It does NOT mean that a phone should be using client technologies as opposed to, say, java or .NET", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-16_05:14:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "f36a73fb3bd9c38ae20f4251d2f92c72", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10974563, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10820718": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Going by Palm's stock price the Pre is already a winner. As above 40 million iPods/iPod Touches is probably why most developers won't even take a sniff at the Pre. Also, products designed with html/javascript can run and be sold in the iPhone app store.. there's been frameworks for doing that for quite some time. If that's supposed to be what sets the Pre apart for developers... well good luck with that.
That being said I like the Pre, and there could be some profitable niches to exploit in the Palm's app store.. although the ratio of Pre's/Developers looks like it could be worse than the ratio of iTouch+iPhones/Developers with all the WebOS hoopla.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_19:26:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "twitter-27362073", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10947453": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Maybe people want to avoid AT&T?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-15_17:12:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "7fd64fbdca43b3e0f3263df184167b30", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10901343, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10820976": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "SU/Johann: There are also 20,000 apps. You'll stand out from the crowd much easier if you develop for the Pre", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-12_19:36:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "f36a73fb3bd9c38ae20f4251d2f92c72", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11858473": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The Pre is just as much a me-too copy of the iPhone as the iPhone is a me-too copy of Windows Mobile.
Think they really are the same? Try running Pandora while navigating on the iPhone.
Or try going back to the contact you last worked with after you looked something up on the web.
These aren't exotic examples of what you might expect to do on a PDA.
I'm not trying to knock the iPhone. I think it is a great phone. But Apple has some catching up to do with WebOS. The notification feature of the iPhone is not a very good substitute for running multiple apps concurrently.
All of which is to say: The pre is no me-too phone.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-28_14:09:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "remon", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 10901343, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10876541": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Cool Palm Pre and iphone comparison
http://www.wealthalchemist.com/Blog/2009/06/pal...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-13_22:17:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "chleoku", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}}, "integration": {"receiver_url": "", "theme": 4, "reply_position": true, "disqus_logo": true}, "timer": {"timer_url": "http://localhost:8005", "thread_id": "21432725", "user_id": "anonymous", "forum_id": "7041", "hash": 7436154193672678243}, "thread": {"total_posts": 0, "paginate": false, "per_page": 0, "slug": "has_the_palm_pre_already_beaten_the_iphone_94", "num_pages": 1, "days_alive": 0, "realtime_paused": true, "id": 21432725, "num_posts": 44, "closed": false, "queued": false, "killed": false}, "reactions_limit": 10, "context": {"show_reply": true, "use_fb_connect": true, "forum_facebook_key": "547225e2dda46ccfdec279a9a44a0074", "use_yahoo": false, "subscribed": false, "use_twitter_signin": true, "use_openid": false, "realtime_speed": 5000}, "reactions_start": 0, "settings": {"debug": false, "disqus_url": "http://disqus.com", "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"}, "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"};
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this.curPageId = 'dsq-comments';
this.frames = {};
};
var disqus_popup_reference = null;
if(typeof DsqLocal == 'undefined') {
DsqLocal = {};
}
/**
* Dsq.Strings: UI strings
*/
Dsq.Strings = new function() {
this.ADD_NEW_COMMENT = "Add New Comment";
this.LOG_INTO_DISQUS = "Log into DISQUS";
this.USE_MEDIA = "Use Media";
this.LOGOUT = "Logout";
this.SHARING_OPTIONS = "Sharing options";
this.SHARE_ON = "Share on";
this.TWEET_THIS_COMMENT = "Tweet this comment";
this.SHARE_ON_NEWSFEED = "Share on news feed";
this.SEND_UPDATE_TO_YAHOO = "Share via Yahoo! Updates";
this.REBLOG_ON = "Reblog on";
this.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS = "Configure options";
this.POST_AS = "Post as";
this.SORT_BY = "Sort by";
this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL = "Subscribe by email";
this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS = "Subscribe by RSS";
this.POPULAR_NOW = "Popular now";
this.BEST_RATING = "Best Rating";
this.NEWEST_FIRST = "Newest first";
this.OLDEST_FIRST = "Oldest first";
this.HIGHLIGHTED = "Highlighted";
this.UNSUBSCRIBE = "Unsubscribe";
this.REQUIRED = "Required";
this.OPTIONAL = "Optional";
this.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A = "You are commenting as a";
this.LOGIN_BELOW = "Login below";
this.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT = "Please login below to comment.";
this.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL = "Subscribe to all comments by email";
this.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS = "Do not subscribe to comments";
this.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS = "Real-time updating is";
this.ENABLED = "enabled";
this.PAUSED = "paused";
this.PAUSE = "Pause";
this.RESUME = "Resume";
this.SHOW = "Show";
this.JUST_NOW = "Just now";
this.REPLY = "Reply";
this.EDIT = "Edit";
this.FLAG = "Flag";
this.MODERATE = "Moderate";
this.CANCEL = "Cancel";
this.REPLYING_TO = "Replying to";
this.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS = "Report missing reactions";
this.POST_A_COMMENT = "Post a comment";
this.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT = "Flag inappropriate comment";
this.FLAGGED = "Flagged";
this.NO = "No";
this.YES = "Yes";
this.NEVER_MIND = "Never mind";
this.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR = "Are you sure you would like to report this comment to a moderator";
this.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION = "This will flag comments for moderators to take action";
this.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN = "To rate, please log in";
this.JUST_A_MOMENT = "Just a moment...";
this.GUEST = "Guest";
this.NAME = "Name";
this.EMAIL = "Email";
this.WEBSITE = "Website";
this.IN_REPLY_TO = "in reply to";
this.SETTINGS = "Settings";
this.MODERATOR_OPTIONS = "Moderator options: ";
this.MODERATE_OPTIONS = "Moderate Options";
// Thread moderator actions
this.CLOSE_THREAD = "Close thread";
this.OPEN_THREAD = "Open thread";
this.REMOVE_THREAD = "Remove thread";
this.RESTORE_THREAD = "Restore thread";
this.ACTIONS = "Actions";
};
// Dsq.Strings
/**
* Dsq.FmtStrings: functions that return interpolated UI strings
*/
Dsq.FmtStrings = new function() {
// Seems we have to use named interpolation for Django to translate. Investigate more.
this.LOGGED_IN_AS = function(username) {
return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logged in as %(username)s', {username:username});
};
this.LOGOUT_FROM = function(disqus) {
return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logout from %(disqus)s', {disqus:disqus});
};
this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL = function(total, num) {
if (num === 1) {
return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing %(num)s of %(total)s comment", {num:num, total:total});
} else {
return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing %(num)s of %(total)s comments", {num:num, total:total});
}
};
this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION = function(num) {
if (num === 1) {
return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing %(num)s comment", {num:num});
} else {
return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing %(num)s comments", {num:num});
}
};
this.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS = function(num) {
return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
(num == 1
? '%(num)s comment'
: '%(num)s comments'
), {num:num});
};
this.NUMBER_OF_LIKES = function(num) {
return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
(num == 1
? '%(num)s like'
: '%(num)s likes'
), {num:num});
};
this.NUMBER_OF_POINTS = function(num) {
return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
(num == 1
? '%(num)s point'
: '%(num)s points'
), {num:num});
};
};
// Dsq.FmtStrings
Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN = '49645233e44f7d1a82290f178d2e9fa8';
Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /()((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /()((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*()((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*()((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "-->" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /<!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|>)/gim;
var FragmentPacket = function(reader, writer, writer_url, is_child, receiveCallback) {
var that = this;
this.reader = reader;
this.writer = writer;
this.writer_url = writer_url;
this.is_child = is_child || false;
this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
this._lastHash = null;
this._accumMsg = '';
this._lastSeqno = 0;
this.MAX_DATA_LEN = 1024;
this.WAIT_TIME = 10;
this.READY = 0x1;
this.WRITING = 0x2;
this.FIN = 0x4;
this.ACK = 0x8;
};
FragmentPacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
var that = this;
var listener = function() {
that.recv();
};
return window.setInterval(listener, 10);
};
FragmentPacket.prototype.log = function(msg) {
};
FragmentPacket.prototype.recv = function() {
var hash;
if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
hash = this.reader.name;
} else {
var hashIndex = this.reader.location.href.indexOf('#');
if (hashIndex == -1) {
return;
}
hash = this.reader.location.href.substring(hashIndex+1);
}
var flags = parseInt(hash.substring(0, 4), 10);
var seqno = parseInt(hash.substring(4, 24), 10);
var data = hash.substring(24);
if (this._lastHash !== hash) {
this._lastHash = hash;
this.log('recv: ' + hash);
this.log(' flags: ' + flags);
this.log(' seqno: ' + seqno + ' len: ' + hash.substring(4, 24).length + ' (' + hash.substring(4, 24) + ')');
this.log(' data: ' + data + ' len: ' + data.length);
this._lastSeqno = seqno;
if (flags & this.WRITING) {
this._accumMsg += data;
this.sendFlag(this.ACK, seqno);
if (flags & this.FIN) {
this.log('recv finished: ' + decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
this.receiveCallback(decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
this._accumMsg = '';
this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
}
}
}
return {
flags: flags,
seqno: seqno,
data: data
};
};
FragmentPacket.prototype.sendRawPacket = function(packet) {
if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
this.writer.name = packet;
} else {
this.writer.location.href = this.writer_url + '#' + packet;
}
};
FragmentPacket.prototype.sendFlag = function(flag, seqno) {
this.sendRawPacket(this._zerofill(flag, 4) + this._zerofill(seqno, 20));
};
FragmentPacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
this._send(0, encodeURIComponent(msg));
};
FragmentPacket.prototype._send = function(packetNum, msg) {
var that = this;
var recvBuf = this.recv();
if (packetNum === 0) {
if (!(recvBuf.flags & this.READY)) {
this.log('client is not ready, waiting...');
window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
return;
}
} else {
if (!( (recvBuf.flags & this.ACK) && (recvBuf.seqno === this._lastSeqno) )) {
this.log('waiting for ack from client...');
window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
return;
} else {
this.log('received ack: ' + this._lastSeqno + ' ' + recvBuf.seqno);
}
}
var flags = this.WRITING;
var num_packets = Math.ceil(msg.length / this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
this.log('num_packets: ' + num_packets);
if (num_packets === packetNum) {
this.log('message successfully sent!');
this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
return true;
}
this._lastSeqno++;
if (packetNum == num_packets-1) {
flags |= this.FIN;
}
var data = msg.substring(packetNum * this.MAX_DATA_LEN, (packetNum+1) * this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
var packet = this._zerofill(flags, 4) + this._zerofill(this._lastSeqno, 20) + data;
this.log('sending raw packet: ' + packet);
this.sendRawPacket(packet);
return this._send(packetNum + 1, msg);
};
FragmentPacket.prototype._zerofill = function(num, width) {
var retval = num.toString();
var retval_len = retval.length;
for (var i = 0; i < width - retval_len; i++) {
retval = '0' + retval;
}
return retval;
};
var PostMessagePacket = function(receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId) {
var that = this;
this.receiver = receiver;
this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
this.id = id;
this.receiverId = receiverId;
};
PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
var that = this;
var listener = function(e) {
if (!that.id) {
that.id = e.data;
return;
}
var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
if (id !== that.id) {
return;
}
var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);
that.receiveCallback(data);
};
if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
} else {
throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
}
};
PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
var needs_reget = false;
try {
if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
needs_reget = true;
}
} catch(e) {
}
if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
}
var packet;
if (!msg) {
packet = this.id;
} else {
packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
}
this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};
PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
var id = (new Date()).getTime();
if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
id++;
}
PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
return id.toString();
};
var JsonRpc = function() {
this.ids = {};
this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
var json = '';
var results = [];
if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
return 'null';
}
switch (obj.constructor) {
case Object:
for (var property in obj) {
if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
}
}
json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
break;
case Array:
for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
}
json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
break;
case Number:
case Boolean:
json = obj.toString();
break;
case String:
var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};
json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
var ch = specialChars[match];
return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
});
json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
break;
default:
json = 'null';
break;
}
return json;
};
this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
var that = this;
var handler = function(message) {
try {
var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
} catch(e) {
alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
return;
}
if (rpc.method) {
if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
return;
}
var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
if (rpc.id) {
var response = {
result: retval,
error: null, // TODO
id: rpc.id
};
send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
}
} else if(rpc.result) {
if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
return;
}
that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
delete that.ids[rpc.id];
}
};
return handler;
};
this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
response_callback = response_callback || null;
var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;
var request = {
method: method,
params: params,
id: id
};
send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));
if (id) {
this.ids[id] = response_callback;
}
};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();
var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {
if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
throw new Error("unsupported.");
} else if (window.opera) {
throw new Error("unsupported.");
}
if (!receiverUrl &&
navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
throw new Error("unsupported.");
}
if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
receiverUrl = '';
}
}
var that = this;
this.childUrl = childUrl;
this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
this.container = container || document.body;
this.packetHandler = null;
this._ready = false;
this._error = false;
var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {
that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;
that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';
var receiver_onload = function() {
var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;
try {
receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
} catch(e) {
that._error = true;
}
receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';
var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
child.id = 'child';
child.name = 'child';
child.src = that.childUrl;
child.frameBorder = '0';
child.frameSpacing = '0';
child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
child.style.width = '100%';
child.style.height = '100%';
receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);
that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
that.receiver = receiver;
that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);
that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);
that._ready = true;
};
that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
receiver_onload();
}
};
that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;
if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {
var _waitForWidth = function() {
if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
} else {
window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
}
};
_waitForWidth();
that._once = false;
that.receiver.onresize = function() {
if (!that._once) {
Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
}
that._once = true;
};
}
}
that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
};
var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {
var receiver_onload = function() {
that.packetHandler.send();
that._ready = true;
};
var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
var receiverId = 'child_' + id;
ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;
that.container.innerHTML += '';
that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
};
if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
_createReceiverForPostMessage();
} else {
_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
}
};
ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
var that = this;
if (!this._ready) {
window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
return;
}
this.packetHandler.send(message);
return true;
};
Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
this.url = url;
};
Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
var that = this;
try {
this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
} catch(e) {
if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
onFailure();
}
}
if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
window.clearInterval(iId);
return;
}
if (that.messenger._ready) {
window.clearInterval(iId);
} else if (that.messenger._error) {
window.clearInterval(iId);
onFailure();
}
}, 10);
}
};
Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
var that = this;
if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
return false;
}
JsonRpc.execute(
function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
method,
args || [],
callback);
return true;
};
Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
var that = this;
this.container = container;
this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;
var sendFunc = function(msg) {
Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
};
var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
}
var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined'
? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null)
: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
}
Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
};
var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
};
var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
var post_id = parent_post_id;
var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
message.innerHTML = response.message;
Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
};
var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
var post_id = parent_post_id;
Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
};
var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
var msg = response.message;
var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);
if (msg.username) {
Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
'username': msg.username,
'display_name': msg.display_name,
'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
'verified': msg.verified,
'email': fields.email.value
});
} else {
Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
}
};
var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
};
var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
var msg = response.message;
if (auth_choice == 'register') {
var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];
for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
var field = fields[i];
var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);
if (msg[field]) {
errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
} else {
errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
}
}
} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '
We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.
\
';
return html;
};
this.footer = function() {
var html = '';
html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();
html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();
html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();
html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
html += ' \
';
if(reaction.retweets) {
var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
if (num_retweets > 0) {
if (num_retweets == 1) {
item += 'One more retweet from ' + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '';
} else {
item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
item += '';
var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
item += 'Show all';
}
}
}
}
item += '
\
\
' // end dsq-reaction-header
+ '
\
' + reaction.body + '
'
+ '
\
'
item += '
'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
return item;
};
this.reactions = function() {
var html, reaction;
if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
return '';
}
html = '';
for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
if (item) {
html += item;
}
}
if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;
var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
html += '';
}
return '
\
';
break;
case 'login':
title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
title += ' Login to your ';
body = '';
if(d.avatar_url) {
body += '
';
body += '
';
body += '
' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '
';
body += '
Hey ' + d.display_name + ', is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
body += '
'
Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
}
Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
};
this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
};
};
// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all
blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);
content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};
Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);
b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};
Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
return head + content + tail;
};
Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
args = args.split(' ');
if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
return ' ' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
}
return '';
};
/**
* Shorcuts
*/
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];
/**
* Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
*/
Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};
/**
* Dsq.Urls: URL paths
*/
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
this.REPLY = 'http://disqus.com/forums/venturebeat/has_the_palm_pre_already_beaten_the_iphone_94/reply.html';
this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/images/noavatar92.png';
};
// Dsq.Urls
/**
* Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
*/
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
this.name = function(name) {
var error = false;
if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
error = true;
}
if(name.length <= 1) {
error = true;
}
if(error) {
return "Please enter a name to comment.";
} else {
return true;
}
};
this.email = function(addr) {
if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
return true;
} else {
return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
}
};
this.url = function(addr) {
if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
return true;
} else {
return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
}
};
this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };
for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
v = bulk_validation[i];
ret = v.validator(v.value);
if(ret !== true) {
failure_callback(ret);
return false;
}
}
return true;
};
};
/**
* Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
*/
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
this._styleSheet = null;
this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
// This only method only helps IE.
if(!this.ie) {
return Dsq.$(id);
} else {
var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
tag = tag || 'div';
if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
} else {
collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
}
for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
if(collection[i].id == id) {
return collection[i];
}
}
return null;
}
};
this.execOnReady = function(func) {
var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
try {
node.doScroll('left');
func();
node = null;
} catch(err) {
setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
}
};
// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
if (days) {
var date = new Date();
date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
}
else var expires = "";
document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
};
this.readCookie = function(name) {
var nameEQ = name + "=";
var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
var c = ca[i];
while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
}
return null;
};
this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
};
this.deleteNode = function(node) {
if(node) {
this.deleteChildren(node);
if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
delete node;
}
};
this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
if(node) {
for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
else node.removeChild(childNode);
delete childNode;
}
}
};
this.findPos = function(obj) {
var curleft = 0;
var curtop = 0;
if (obj.offsetParent) {
do {
curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
curtop += obj.offsetTop;
} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
}
return [curleft,curtop];
};
this.getWindowSize = function() {
var windowWidth = -1;
var windowHeight = -1;
if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
}
return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
}
this.getScrollPos = function() {
var scrollWidth, scrollTop;
if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
// IE is weird here. If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
}
return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
}
this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
var listenerFn = listener;
if (instance.addEventListener) {
instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
listenerFn = function() {
listener(window.event);
};
instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
} else {
throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
}
return {
instance: instance,
name: eventName,
listener: listenerFn
};
};
this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
var instance = event.instance;
if (instance.removeEventListener) {
instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
}
};
this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');
if(id) {
var container = Dsq.$(id);
} else {
var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
}
for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
if (container) {
iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
}
}
};
this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
var arrReturnElements = new Array();
strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
var oElement;
for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
oElement = arrElements[i];
if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
}
}
return (arrReturnElements);
};
this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
var form = document.createElement('form');
var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();
form.method = 'POST';
form.action = url;
if (!opt_redirect) {
form.target = id;
}
iframe_container.innerHTML = '';
for(var key in post_data) {
if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
var input = document.createElement('input');
input.name = key;
input.type = 'hidden';
input.value = post_data[key];
form.appendChild(input);
}
}
Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
form.submit();
};
// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
this.extractId = function(e) {
var chunks = e.id.split('-');
if(chunks.length <= 1) {
return 0;
} else {
var retval = parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
return !isNaN(retval) ? retval : null;
}
};
this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
if(el.currentStyle) {
var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
}
if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
} else {
return y;
}
};
this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
var script = document.createElement('script');
append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
container = container || Dsq.container;
if(append_qs) {
var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
}
script.type = 'text/javascript';
script.charset = 'UTF-8';
script.src = url;
container.appendChild(script);
return script;
};
this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
};
this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
var pairs, tuple;
var params = {};
queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
pairs = queryString.split('&');
for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
tuple = pair.split('=');
params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
}
return params;
};
this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
var stylesheet;
index = index || 0;
if(!this._styleSheet) {
var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
if(!this._styleSheet) {
// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
}
}
stylesheet = this._styleSheet;
if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
if(index == -1) {
index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
}
stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
}
};
this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
for(var key in obj) {
if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
callback(key, obj[key]);
}
}
};
this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,
'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
};
this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
for (var i=0; i]+)>)/g,"");
};
this.assert = function(b) {
if (!b) {
throw new Error('Assertion error.');
}
};
};
// Dsq.Utils
/**
* Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
*/
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
this.timeHide = new Array();
this.timeShow = new Array();
this.activePopup = {};
this.profileCache = {};
this.statusCache = {};
this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
// clear the hide timer
clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);
// start the timer
if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
}
};
this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
// clear the show timer
clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
};
this.updateProfile = function(username) {
// Callback from /embed/profile.js
if (this.statusCache[username]) {
var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
statusEl.style.display = 'block';
}
if (this.profileCache[username]) {
var _cache = this.profileCache[username];
var _genhtml = function(text) { return '' + text + ''; };
var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));
var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
statsEl.innerHTML = '';
if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
}
statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;
var activeSites = '';
for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
activeSites += '
';
title = 'Thanks for posting!';
}
if(numAlerts > 0) {
if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
} else {
Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
}
}
};
this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
var html = ' \
\
Verified has a Disqus Profile with a confirmed email address.
\
Registered has a Disqus Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.
\
Guest is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.
\
Other accounts
\
Facebook is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.
\
Twitter is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.
\
OpenID is using his or her OpenID.
\
\
';
this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
return;
};
this.permalink = function(post_id) {
var header = 'Link to this comment';
var body = 'You are anchored to: ' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;
this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
};
this.login = function(header, body) {
var h = header || 'Login or Register';
var b = body || '';
b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
b += ''; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
};
this.blacklist = function(id) {
var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
var message = ' \
Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
+ (userData['registered'] ?
'
\
\
\
'
: '')
+ (_meta.email ?
'
\
\
\
'
: '')
+ '
\
\
\
\
';
message += ' \
\
Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
\
';
message += ' \
\
';
Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
};
this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
var body = '';
// Set up IFrame.
var params = {};
var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/venturebeat/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
}
body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
};
this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
var container = document.createElement('div');
var header, body;
Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }
if(post_id) {
container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
} else {
container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
}
header = title;
body = message;
container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
if(use_listener) {
Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
}
};
this.popAlert = this.popModal;
this.loading = function(post_id) {
var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
var body = '
'
Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
};
this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal
var overlay = document.createElement('div');
overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
};
this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
return;
}
if(post_id) {
userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;
}
var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
var container = document.createElement('div');
if(this.activePopup.el) {
this._closePopup(null, true);
if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
return;
}
}
container.id = elId;
container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);
this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);
if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
+ '?username=' + userKey
+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
} else {
this.updateProfile(userKey);
}
};
this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target
// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
if(!activePopup) {
return;
}
if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
// TODO: This is breaking iE?
if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
}
// Kill overlay
var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
try {
Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
} catch(e) {
// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a
in the html.
activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
}
Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
}
if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
}
};
this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
// to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
// our popup.
Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
} else {
Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
}
popup.style.display = 'block';
var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;
if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
}
popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';
Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
'el' : popup,
'id' : post_id,
'type': type,
'linkClicked' : false
};
};
this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
while(t && t.parentNode) {
if(t.id == id) {
return true;
}
t = t.parentNode;
}
return false;
};
};
// Dsq.Popup
/**
* Dsq.Templates
*/
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
/*
* Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
*/
this.postLoopCounter = 0;
this.filters = {};
this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
this['$$_' + name] = func;
if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
}
this[name] = function() {
var ret;
if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
}
if(ret === undefined) {
ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
}
if(this.filters[name]) {
var args = [ret];
args.push.apply(args, arguments);
for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
}
}
return ret;
};
};
this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
this.filters[name].push(func);
};
/**
* Dsq.Templates.Filters
*/
this.Filters = new function() {
this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
var classes = [];
if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
classes.push('dsq-append');
}
//
// Extra classes used for custom themes
//
if(_meta.depth) {
classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
}
//
if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
}
if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
classes.push('dsq-moderator');
}
classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);
s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
};
this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
if (_meta.killed) {
return 'Comment removed.';
} else if (!_meta.approved) {
return 'This comment was flagged for review.';
}
s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
return s;
};
};
//
// Thread
//
// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.
this.authPost = function() {
if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
return '';
}
var result = [];
result = result.concat([
'
\
';
if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
html = ' \
\
Disqus upgrade available. Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. Click here for details. \
\
A new theme is available with added features. To change your theme, click here and choose the theme Narcissus. \
If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
This message will automatically go away in one week. \
\
\
' + html;
}
return html;
};
this.footer = function() {
var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();
html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();
html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
return html;
};
this.pagination = function() {
var html = '';
if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }
//
// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination,
// while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
// This should all be in JavaScript.
//
if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
html = ' \Show more comments...\
\
';
}
if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
return '';
} else {
return '
' + html + '
';
}
};
this.trackbacks = function() {
var html = '';
if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
} else {
var trackbacks = [
];
var trackback_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/venturebeat/has_the_palm_pre_already_beaten_the_iphone_94/trackback/';
}
html += '
Trackback URL
';
if(trackbacks.length) {
html += '
'
for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
var trackback = trackbacks[i];
html += '
';
if(reaction.retweets) {
var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
if (num_retweets > 0) {
item += '
';
if (num_retweets == 1) {
item += 'One more retweet from ' + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '';
} else {
item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
item += '';
var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
item += 'Show all';
}
}
item += '
';
}
}
item += '
'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
return item;
};
this.reactions = function() {
var html, reaction;
if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
return '';
}
html = '';
for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
if (item) {
html += item;
}
}
if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;
var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
html += '
';
};
this.missingPermissions = function() {
return '';
};
//
// Post
//
this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
var html = '';
return html;
};
this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
var html = '';
return html;
};
this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
var _includeServices = function() {
var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
var html = '';
var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div
for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
html +=
(i == hiddenThreshold
? '
\
'
+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
? '' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + ''
: '' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '')
+ ' \
\
\
\
' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + ' \
\
' : '')
+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '
' : '')
+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '
' : '')
+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '
' : '')
+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '
' : '')
+ '
\
\
' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + ' '
+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
? '' + Dsq.Strings.IN_REPLY_TO + ' ' + parent_display_name + ''
: '')
+ '
';
}
var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
? ''
: '')
+ '
'
+ ' From ' + reaction.get_service_name + ' '
+ 'via ' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + ''
+ '
';
body = ' \
' + Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
btn.style.display = 'none';
var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
} else {
var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
}
}
};
this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {
if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
return false;
}
var params = [];
if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
params.push(fields.name.value,
fields.email.value,
fields.website.value);
if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
params.push({
auth_choice: auth_choice,
username: fields.username.value,
password: fields.password.value,
email: fields.email.value
});
} else {
params.push(null);
}
params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
} else {
var service_checked = function(name) {
var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
};
params.push(null, null, null, null, {
tw: service_checked('twitter'),
fb: service_checked('facebook'),
tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
tp: service_checked('typepad'),
yh: service_checked('yahoo')
});
}
var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
frame.post.apply(frame, params);
if (el_clicked) {
Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
}
if (force) {
Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);
}
} else {
return false;
}
};
this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;
Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
};
this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {
message.style.display = 'none';
if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
} else {
var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
';
if(el_clicked) {
Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
}
Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/venturebeat/thread.js'
+ '?slug=' + 'has_the_palm_pre_already_beaten_the_iphone_94'
+ '&p=' + page
+ extra_params);
};
this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
if(vote == 1) {
Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '
s/images/embed/by-disqus.png)
') :
Dsq.Utils.interpolate('s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png)
')
),
's/images/dsq-profile-btn.png "%(log_into)s")
s/images/twitter-signin-short.png)
s/images/openid-login-button.png)
s/images/dsqicon12.png)
',
{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
: ''),
(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('
';
}
var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
item += '![' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '](' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png)
'
+ userServices[i].name
+ '
'
: '')
+ '
\
\
\
' + comments_count + '
\