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"sort": 4, "forum": "myballard", "is_initial_load": true, "is_authenticated": false, "timestamp": "2009-11-30_10:56:59", "remote_domain": "", "page": 1, "is_moderator": false, "display_username": "", "points": null, "subscribe_on_post": 2, "moderator_can_edit": false, "is_remote": false, "is_verified": false, "missing_perm": null}, "realtime_paused": false, "posts": {"9071616": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Why can't the food bank pitch in for a cop? Or the churches doing these soup kitchens? These transients are only here for them, but they never ever make an effort to help solve the problem. Take the money out of the church weekly collection plate. Same goes for the businesses that feed the food bank. Have an added tax for them, that goes to security. They are using the food bank as a garbage can rather than pay trash pick up costs. All left over food is driven over, because it's cheaper than paying for trash pick up.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:02:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d628cfc8d68ff6abb74a98c16741315", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071066, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9144576": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "No chop I would be vert sad; that he ruined two lives, his and his victim's.    His actions have saved no lives at all.   AND my guess is they have lost him business.  Who wants to go into a place with a loose cannon?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_20:27:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "2de6d0e797775c6ec04c3ea0937b2c21", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 8, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9141814, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9064450": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Well done Mike, thanks for getting these thugs out of the theft business.<br>Gotta admire your batting average too, .1000!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_14:03:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9152004": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "This is a local thread, so, it will be the same folks most of the time. Sometimes, it's pro, sometimes it's con, but it's always worth the read. imho.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_02:44:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 21, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9149056, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9147401": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Did you people not watch the whole video, he hands over a demand not at the start of it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_22:53:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 9, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9138971, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9116682": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ballard is still compassionate, imho.<br>We just aren't as dumb...", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_23:18:04", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9081266, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9078274": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "err<br><br>\"If you live with felons, take risks or abuse drugs they are much safer then pools cars or even doctors.\"<br><br>should have read <br><br>If you live with felons, take risks or abuse drugs they may increase risk but other wise they are much safer then pools cars or even doctors.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_21:48:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9078235, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071122": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Dear MT girl,<br>You comment makes no sense.  I thought Chambers of Commerce were membership organizations...I haven't been a member of the Ballard Chamber, but have experience elsewhere......The best way to get assistance of the Chamber is to join the Chamber......some how your retail employer is not a member? - he/she should join.  The Seafood Fest is a big event that is for sure, but I doubt that is  their only interest.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:43:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "4948e5c82cff880bb9a36335fbf204d7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070863, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9077779": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "If they're blasting music you can always call the cops on them for noise violations. After a couple tickets they'll move somewhere else.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_21:21:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "fec52287d82ab7ebf714b1b88fca6baa", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9061664, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9168916": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "He did no such thing.  He had a piece of paper which he handed to no one.  Gosh maybe a prescription?  That would be a pre written piece of paper right? Sometimes folks bring those into pharmacies.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_19:20:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "2de6d0e797775c6ec04c3ea0937b2c21", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9147401, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9063958": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Also, this is a good opportunity to post the link to the \"Ballard Gun Discussion\" on this blog's forum:<br><br><a href=\"http://www.myballard.com/forum/topic.php?id=668\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.myballard.com/forum/topic.php?id=668</a><br><br>Lots of good info on safety, responsibilities, research resources, training, and retail locations.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_13:50:04", "killed": false, "user_key": "e2ccdca7238236eea9d5e2aa8e85b921", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071640": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I was at Fred Meyers at noon driving down the road on the south side by Albert Lee, and I saw a lady in a log purple coat looking in cars parked on the street.  She tried the door on one car. I called the cops.  This was at Noon!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:03:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "a904201d5993d8faab0911712c03dc2c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9067922, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9069083": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "All true, Kokosmama.  Bartell's has a great pharmacy too.  <br>But I think I get her point.  It's a big fish vs little fish thing.  The small business owners have a hard enough time staying solvent without the threat of some methed up thug robbing them.<br>I worked for the housekeeping service they used for awhile.  I've seen the house.  Matron Bartell was a nice lady but no little fish. ;-)", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_16:29:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "5b8abab8a8e92d61737d0f8d1bc6fdfb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9068239, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9081178": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "or, pro business, which, really is people.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:08:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9080677, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9168414": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "You can always just pull your \"Ballard Sucks\" hat down further over your eyes so you don't see him, which sounds like what you want to do...it doesn't take much effort for me to look him in the eyes and say, \"no thanks\".  He looks right back the says, \"OK\".", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_18:38:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "6b2b9dab8f35691cc70a5400b7cdfb57", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070873, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9081888": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "MDfS - you can just download that one that I linked to - it should print out just fine.  Photocopy a few, and do what you like with them.  Cheers.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:29:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "Ballard_Sucks_Now", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071436, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9168934": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "But that is not the incident in this video.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_19:21:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "2de6d0e797775c6ec04c3ea0937b2c21", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9162749, "depth": 8, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9083433": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "now who's the troll?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_00:39:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "365df5d245e280791c4f1b45f7e5f1b2", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9082766, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9168939": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "How exactly am I a loose cannon?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_19:21:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "2de6d0e797775c6ec04c3ea0937b2c21", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9151745, "depth": 8, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9094193": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "No the other half aren't so quick to blame the homeless or whoever the target is that day.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_11:19:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "9af9da9476e4da70149e28db47f281f4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9085119, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9073202": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "you dont need a squeeky clean record...i certainly dont have a clean record...NO FELONS..!!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:52:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "ad32265919fb6ed108045f9cd482b3be", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9061870, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9174069": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "you should try reading the linked stories before you play Internet Perry Mason.<br><br>His security camera recorded a hooded man earlier this year walking into the pharmacy on the same day Donohue returned from the police station to identify a suspect from an earlier robbery.  <br><br>it was Douglas and he has already pled guilty.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-10_00:16:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9168916, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9141814": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "and you'd be cheering? what a shame...<br>I bet you'd deny that his actions have actually saved lives, not just in his store, but the thugs, thanks to him, that haven't gone on to victimize more folks.<br>How is that packing going, rose?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_18:20:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 14, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9141313, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9078330": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The bottom line here is that the SPD has the same number of officers today that they did 30 years ago when Seattle was half the size. Seattle also runs a ratio of police to citizens that is about 1/3rd to 1/5th that of most major cities. We clearly just don't have the police force to be effective.<br>Think about what running the skeleton PD means, no time to walk a beat if you're responding to calls. Spending your whole day responding to calls leaves no time to do follow ups on crimes, get to know the characters in your beat, no time to do visibility/deterrence patrols, and for a lot of these guys the knowledge that there will be little backup close by if something goes wrong.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_21:52:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "fec52287d82ab7ebf714b1b88fca6baa", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9070873": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I never said he was a thug (I can usually tell the difference).<br><br>Yes, it's one guy.  But it's one guy who is there apparently 24/7/365...or so it seems.  I don't think I've walked into Bartells once in the past 3 or 4 years when there wasn't somebody there selling the paper.  It's like he's a part of the shopping experience there. At least at Ballard Market, they mix it up a little - you can actually go shopping there occasionally without having to say \"no thanks\" on the way in and out.  It's tiresome to deal with it e-v-e-r-y  t-i-m-e.<br><br>I guess I just have \"homeless fatigue\".  I used to buy the paper from time to time, but I'm just tired of Ballard being Homeless Central, and until the city stops dumping all the homeless here, I've decided to stop encouraging them.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:33:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "Ballard_Sucks_Now", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9069780, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9078197": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Couldn't Donahue have just talked to the man, listen to his stories and struggles, like the Donahue on tv?<br><br>I moved to Ballard because I thought this  was a compassionate neighborhood, not  the wild west : (", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_21:44:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "aad2cbdc12c36cd98a2d652f01f29773", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9076800": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I understand the 'homeless fatigue' but please leave the Real Change vendors out of this.  Most of these guys sell the paper so they CAN get a place to stay.  I walk by without buying the paper all the time and nothing happens to me.  I don't even say 'no thanks.'<br>Unlike the crack heads who will yell profanity at me if I don't give them anything.  It's not the Real Change vendors who are robbing pharmacies.  It's those junky bozos. <br>And Real Change is actually a pretty good paper.  Challenging crossword, and everything.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_20:37:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "5b8abab8a8e92d61737d0f8d1bc6fdfb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070873, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9070944": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Agree!!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:36:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "Ballard_Sucks_Now", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9069516, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9065538": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "What scares you more, a law abiding citizen defending himself and his customers, or a criminal scumbag trying to make a business owner and his customers a victim? I frankly would feel safer inside his place. I would trust the owners judgment and actions more then the criminals. But hey, that's just me.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_14:36:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "TTTCOTTH", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9065280, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9072152": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I didn't get to fire it until I was 7 but I did know how to hold it, operate the safety and most importantly learned to never EVER point it at anyone. FWIW, a M-16 is an incredibly easy weapon to fire. Quite accurate and very little recoil - far less than the shotgun, .357 revolver and .38 snubnose he wore for court appearances.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:25:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "5eb728ecf90fb9654e4f30da93a897da", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071185, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9081931": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Right, because, you know, we want our thugs to feel like the neighborhood belongs to them, so they don't have to feel threatened or unwelcome while they're breaking into someone's home or car or business.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:32:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "Ballard_Sucks_Now", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9081055, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9101904": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Are you implying that I once referred to you as a \"troll.\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_14:04:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "4cd288bccb9c0b2133aba92818f3c7e9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9083433, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071185": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"I grew up in a cop family which meant we had two pistols, a shotgun and a M-16 in the house. I knew how to safely handle these weapons before I even started grade school and I also knew to never play with them.\"<br><br>You learned how to safely operate an *M-16* when you were in kindergarten?!<br><br>Bad-ass.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:46:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "Ernie_98107", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9069536, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9076822": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "We pay more taxes than any neighborhood. But, it's so bad we need to put out a collection jar to hire off duty cops? Why don't they do what we pay them for on duty? I think it's time Ballard became it's own town again. Its the only choice.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_20:38:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d628cfc8d68ff6abb74a98c16741315", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9076717, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9170519": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "refer to your previous response to my self-invested statement...<br>No, I don't have any desire to be a cop, or to sleep with one...<br>that's a loose cannon.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_21:22:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9168939, "depth": 9, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9075804": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Alright, a couple of points.<br>How much $$$ was spent on the stripper stings?<br>How much $$$ was spent for the traffic cam on 15th and Market?<br>How much $$$ was spent, and has yet to be spent, researching and implementing the gun ban in city parks? (and the inevitable court cases)<br>They simply DO have the money to provide the level of police protection required, it's just NOT their priority. Raise hell!<br>Beat cops aren't the only solution, but the most important one at this time.<br>Meanwhile, we have folks like Mike who are doing what they can, and being successful as well.<br>Until it becomes a priority for Seattle to protect Ballard, and neighboring communities, screw em', and that goes for the Mayor too.<br>I'm sick and tired of trying to run a business, and doing block watches, reporting, etc., while hearing the business community in general getting blamed.<br>Screw you too!<br>With much love...chopper out.<br>Oh, and yes, that sketchy hooded punk was going to rob the place, clearly.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_19:52:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 11, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9080677": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "No politician is pro-people.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_22:35:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "5b8abab8a8e92d61737d0f8d1bc6fdfb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9078226, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9170532": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "At least your neighbor supported law enforcement...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_21:23:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9168754, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9085029": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Weird? Ok, silence. I guess I didn't understand the meaning of the word weird.<br>Gun toting? I haven't seen it, 'cept on tv.<br>Nut jobs...I've seen and heard from enough of those.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_01:57:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9081202, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9104489": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Sha-zam! ;-) <br>I'd add SPG to the short list...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_15:31:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9103342, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9116789": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "A citizens arrest is legal, and expected in my book. Provided that you know what the risk is, don't fire the weapon unless necessary, etc.<br>If you are afraid, sorry, stay alert, out of the way, and you'll be just fine.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_23:24:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071969, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9082815": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Half of the people on this site spout accusations without any proof whatsoever.  Stick around for a week.  You'll see what I mean.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_00:00:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85e894bb3007886bd7d0c08f1bf9d32", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9082518, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9149056": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "It's not just this thread, it's the same people on EVERY thread. It bothers me, because most of the discussion is based on paranoid nonsense. I read it, because I live in the community and care what goes on.<br><br>A bunch of freaks come out at night? Really? What a shock. You know, we do live in a city.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_00:11:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "Mahtli69", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 22, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9126022, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9159104": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The crime threads draw a particular subset of the community. Other topics have more diversity and not nearly as many posts. This one has the same people preaching the same message to a (small) choir over and over and over again.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_12:03:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "Mahtli69", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 20, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9152004, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9172439": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I don't think you understand the meaning of the term.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_23:22:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "2de6d0e797775c6ec04c3ea0937b2c21", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9170519, "depth": 10, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9148037": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "He ruined the crooks life how? but not letting him hold up the place?<br><br>Not everyone is so afraid of good law abiding people defending themselves as you, statistic show that citizens are far less likely to hurt innocent bystanders then police with firearms and I don't fear going in there at all.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_23:03:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9144576, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9126022": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "This isn't anyone being paranoid.  The reason you seem the same people on a thread is because their having a discussion.   Think of it as a virtual meeting room.  We don't have each others personal contact info., and it's best it stay that way.  If it bothers you, don't read it.   I said this before above, wait until you or someone you know is a victim of crime, then it becomes personal.  You fight or flight.  The people on this blog are attempting to fight, yet nothing has really materialized.  However, public officials and public safety officers do follow these threads, so we know we're being heard.  The blog is a wonderful way for people to participate in an active democracy.  You have nothing t fear, none of your personal liberties are being infringed on.  If you're a thief and or drug user, you do have something to fear.  Our community isn't going to allow you to operate in Ballard with immunity.  <br><br>If you don't think there's an issue, go to Bergen Place Park tonight after 10:00 and stay on the street to 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_08:22:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8a5972dbb90e70fbd49004d250a36a6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 23, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9094283": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Let's face it, Todd wasn't even in Ballard when he was attacked.  Not saying that that violence couldn't spill over, but he's not exactly the best example.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_11:22:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "9af9da9476e4da70149e28db47f281f4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9093487, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9077391": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Agreed!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_21:00:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "Ballard_Sucks_Now", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9072610, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9061521": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Hell. Yes.<br><br>I'll be switching my prescriptions over to them in the very near future.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_12:45:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "451eeea0d261aba2dbd84474a6c578df", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 7, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9077394": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "This is a tough reality of our future all across America.  Those who can afford to be protected, will be protected.   Gated communities will continue to thrive as well.   I moved to Seattle from Atlanta over ten years ago when crime was getting bad in our near-the-city neighborhood.  I see a similar trend here, but it's happening much faster.  Ballard has a chance to be something special.  It has clearly moved in a new direction, for better or worse.  Now it sits teetering toward a bright future.  The nightclub owner's need to step up to the plate, along with the Chamber, and all the big condo associations.   We need the deep pockets to get a security force in place.   Knowing cops are out on the street only a couple of times a month,  is an easy start.  It's a small start, but it sends a clear message to criminals that we're not east targets.  They'll soon find out it's time to move on.  <br><br>I pledge $150.00 tonight to start the pot.  If others are interested, I'll figure out a way to collect and distribute the money to North SPD.  I've already spoken to them about this.  They pay the off-duty cops through their normal payroll.   You'll have to trust me to see that this happens.  We will build momentum.  I'll meet with anyone, in person, in public who wishes to donate.<br><br>I'm not a Buddhist, but I do love a daily meditation book that I read.  I'll close with a page I just flipped to.  It's a wonderful quote from The 14th Dalai Lama: \"When we feel responsible, concerned and committed, we begin to feel deep emotion and great courage.\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_21:01:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8a5972dbb90e70fbd49004d250a36a6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9076822, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9082518": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I don't see this as fear-mongering.  A chain of crimes are now being documented in one spot.  People are coming out of a fog and are seeing for the first time there's more crime happening in Ballard than they thought.   No one is calling for lynch mobs.  All people want are some basic laws enforced.   I prefer to be able to walk into Bergen Place Park and not get aggressively accosted.  When you get accosted, robbed, or attacked, it becomes personal.  You can either fight back or leave.<br><br>If you haven't been following, below is a list of major and minor ongoing crimes that have happened in the last two weeks:<br><br>Major events:<br><br>1.  A man got brutally attacked, robbed, and left for dead in Greenwood on a week night.<br>2. The following Friday night there's an armed car-jacking.<br>3. The same Friday night there are three muggings on the street.  The assailants claimed to have guns.<br><br>Minor Events:<br><br>1. Numerous cars have been stolen<br>2. Numerous cars have been broken into<br>3. Tagging (graffiti has proliferated)<br>4. Drugs are being used out in the open in Bergen Place Park<br>5.  An area called \"The Jungle\" had to be cleared because it was a hideout for chronic drug users<br>6. Homes are being broken into<br><br>To keep up with what's happening on the local crime scene, also read the Ballard Tribune.  <br><br>The Ballard area is a great place to be.  Seek ways to make a positive contribution in any way you can.  The best contributions are free.  For instance, smile, greet people, say hello to folks you believe are different than you.   Many of us have much at stake here.  We're home owners, parents, and business owners.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:41:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8a5972dbb90e70fbd49004d250a36a6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9081303, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9072791": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"As with most things, if you make the gun a big scarry no no your kids will want to see it, touch it and shoot it out of curiosity. \"<br><br>YEP!! I think that applies to a lot of things! Parents these days seem hell bent on taking every element of risk out of their kids lives. Kids can't ride their bikes to school, can't walk to school, have to wear helmets when playing soccer, can't climb trees, etc., etc. People forget that children are natural born daredevils and they WILL seek out risk, parents be damned. The more you coddle and protect your kid the more likely they are to do something bad.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:47:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "5eb728ecf90fb9654e4f30da93a897da", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070863, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9067161": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "We need to give this man a job at Bergen Park. Who wants to contribute to his first pay check?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_15:25:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d628cfc8d68ff6abb74a98c16741315", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 13, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9065853, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9069722": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<a href=\"http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/ballardsucksnow/RE-ARM_BALLARD.jpg?t=1241642838\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/ballar...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_16:49:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "Ballard_Sucks_Now", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9067922, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9076892": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Go to Belltown. You practically get run over because bike cops are EVERYWHERE. And horseback brigades", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_20:42:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d628cfc8d68ff6abb74a98c16741315", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070828, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9082526": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Things were great here before you came.<br><br>How's the search for that new apartment going?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:41:48", "killed": true, "user_key": "Ballard_Sucks_Now", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9081202, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071271": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It doesn't really look like a robbery in the video.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:50:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "9af9da9476e4da70149e28db47f281f4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9097899": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Mall Cops, I'd gladly match your $150 if I was sure the money would be well spent. But giving a lump sum to the North Precinct just sounds like a bad idea. <br><br>Instead, how about you (or Choppper, or Trix, MDFS) run for a position in local government? Whether that's leader of the Chamber, or the Council, or whatever, I think it'd be good to get someone reasonable, concerned, and motivated in a position that already has a formal line in to the police's decision makers. <br><br>I'd do it, but I run my own business and that takes up the majority of my energy.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_12:51:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "e2ccdca7238236eea9d5e2aa8e85b921", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 7, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9168754": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "A public safety hack?  Does that mean cop wannabe?  I had a neighbor once who was a cop groupie.  She slept with pretty much every married cop in Seattle I think.  We would hear the cruisers drive up day and night.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_19:05:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "2de6d0e797775c6ec04c3ea0937b2c21", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9161010, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "10729646": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Glock 19 handgun under his lab coat will really scare robbers away. Security cameras cannot put a bullet in their body, it's the gun. Seriously though, that sign is a work of a genius, whoever thought of the idea.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-11_01:28:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "18bb490376dab6533969e59ad55aea92", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9070256": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Very evocative description, MDfS! Thanks for that.<br><br>Also, +1 to Mall Cops' idea of private security. Thanks to all the bars, you'd really only need him to patrol from midnight to 8 AM. Figure $20/hour, 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, 4 weeks a month... call it $5k/month. If presented properly, I think it'd be easy to get 5,000 people in Ballard to contribute $1/month if it meant that the neighborhood was patrolled at night. If only there was an easy mechanism to collect that fee. Maybe the Ballard Chamber could investigate? Or just put out a giant tip jar at Seafoodfest? Seems like you could collect all $60k (enough for an entire year) at such an event.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:08:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "e2ccdca7238236eea9d5e2aa8e85b921", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9067922, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071281": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "It seems that the Ballard Chamber is universally reviled as useless or worse.  Anyone disagree?<br><br>If they're really standing in the way of improving things, why not go around them, and create an alternative?  Call it the Better Ballard Chamber, or the Real Ballard Chamber, or the Ballard Citizens Chamber, or whatever.  If the Better Ballard Chamber can score some success, the other group becomes irrelevant....let them run the damn seafood festival and get the hell out of the way for the other 51 weeks of the year.<br><br>What's wrong with this picture?<br><br>And MT Girl, with regard to money being tight now and local shops being reluctant to ponying up some cash for a patrol....money is tight with all of us, and if they think business is down now, just wait until everyone decides the streets are not safe enough to bother shopping locally.  Some folks here have already come to that conclusion, and if the crime wave continues unchecked, many more will, and the shops will eventually suffer a lot more.  It's in the shops' best interest to curb the crime wave.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:50:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "Ballard_Sucks_Now", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070863, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9111227": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "But, we need the sane ones to stick around! Damn.<br>I can't blame you, or anyone else that isn't hip on getting involved in the political hay, it's just broken as hell, and anybody that stood up would soon find the rug pulled from beneath them...<br>I think it should be a group, five or six local folks, so that no-one could be singled out and trampled under the foot of the city council.<br>Just saying, a group would be better than one for that reason alone.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_19:45:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9106113, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9194684": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Sir what is your source of this miss information?<br><br>1)  In 1993, there were 1,334 drownings and 528 firearm-related accidental deaths from ages<br>0-19. Firearms outnumber pools by a factor of over 30:1. Thus, the risk of drowning in a pool is<br>nearly 100 times higher than from a firearm-related accident for everyone, and nearly 500 times<br>for ages 0-5.<br><br>National Center for Health Statistics, and the National Spa and Pool Institute<br><br>2) Worldwide, the per capita suicide rate is fairly static (the suicide rate of the U.S. is lower than many industrial countries, including many where private gun<br>ownership is banned). A certain fraction of the population will commit suicide regardless of the<br>available tools.<br><br>3) The four year violent crime arrest rate for CCW holders is 128 per 100,000. For the general population, it is 710 per 100,000. In other words, the general public is 5.5 times more likely to commit a violent crime<br>than a CCW licensee.<br><br> \u201cAn Analysis Of The Arrest Rate Of Texas Concealed Handgun License Holders As Compared To The Arrest<br>Rate Of The Entire Texas Population\u201d, William E. Sturdevant, PE, September 11, 1999<br><br><br>Of the 2,500,000 annual self-defense cases using guns, more than 7.7% (192,500) are by women defending themselves against sexual abuse.<br><br>When a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3% of rape attacks are completed, compared to 32% when unarmed.<br><br>U.S. Department of Justice, Law Enforcement Assistance Administration, Rape Victimization in 26 American Cities, 1979<br><br>The probability of serious injury from an attack is 2.5 times greater for women offering no resistance than for women resisting with a gun. Men also benefit from using a gun, but the benefits are smaller at 1.4 times more likely to receive a serious injury.<br><br>Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey<br><br>Every year, people in the United States use a gun to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times \u2013 more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds. 112 Of these instances, 15.6% of the people using a firearm defensively stated that they \"almost certainly\" saved their lives by doing so.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-10_22:53:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9191817, "depth": 8, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9085119": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "So, the other half would have proof right?<br>Which half are you spouting?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_02:04:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9082815, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9106113": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Leadership?<br><br>Hell No<br><br>When my house sells there will be nothing but smoke and two rubber tracks behind me when I leave Seattle.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_16:27:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "TTTCOTTH", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9103342, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9186501": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I've seen statistics that point to an overall decrease in violent crime in regions that have the highest percent per capita of ccw permits. The exact opposite of what you believe to be true. Sorry.<br>btw, nobody messes with the Swiss, because everyone is issued a firearm, yes, everyone. Care to take a guess at what their violent crime stats are? Have a nice day.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-10_15:09:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 7, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9186115, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9075910": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Not a member, I see no benefit to membership, sounds like a country club, at best. They certainly have done nothing about these issues, in fact, silent and ineffective as usual.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_19:56:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071281, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9102025": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I'm in the same boat dink, not much time and energy remains.<br>Besides, I'm pretty damn sure that I'm allergic to politics. <br>I should hold out for King ;-)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_14:08:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9097899, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9210060": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "For the record, I am NOT a gun-control advocate. I support the 2nd Amendment, and I think that a more violent society is the price we must pay for this right.<br><br>However, I do not like that the gun industry tells people that guns make us safer. Perhaps in the hands of a person with the right training AND temperament, with the right consideration given towards secure storage, and with some luck, it is true. But, we are human after all, and statistics and common sense show that guns, which are designed to kill, are dangerous.<br><br>In my opinion, the pro-gun lobby spins statistics and cultivates fear far more than their opposition. I agree with you that the US is generally a safe place, and that most gun violence is fed by the insane drug war and consists of criminals killing other criminals. For me personally,  I have a wife and kid in my house, and decided a long time ago that the risks of gun ownership far outweigh any potential benefit. In general, people own guns out of fear, and when I hear of someone I know buying a weapon for protection, my first thought is that they wussed out.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-11_13:43:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "Mahtli69", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9076941": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "An election is coming up.  Vote Mayor Knucklehead out.  The three challengers I've heard coming up to bat should be questioned about how they would treat neighborhood security.<br>Donaldson is the only true pro-business one so far but I haven't heard much about any of them yet.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_20:44:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "5b8abab8a8e92d61737d0f8d1bc6fdfb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9076717, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9081038": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Police officers need to be hired in pairs.  Which brings the cost to $150.00/hour.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_22:59:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "studio5412", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9068239": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Cyndi,<br><br>Bartells is awesome and owned by a local family- THE BARTELLS.  They live in Magnolia.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_15:59:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "e0342b0e4f2207725eb6546c8f36973d", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9069780": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "'gauntlet?'  It's one guy.  And there's never an issue when I walk by him without buying a paper.  And he certainly isn't a thug.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_16:51:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "5b8abab8a8e92d61737d0f8d1bc6fdfb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9069337, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9162446": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "11% of police shootings kill an innocent person - about 2% of shootings by citizens kill an<br>innocent person.<br><br><br>Cramer C and Kopel D. \"Shall issue: the new wave of concealed handgun permit laws.\" Golden CO:<br>Independence Institute Issue Paper. October 17, 1994", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_14:43:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9159910, "depth": 9, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9075930": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yeah, we wouldn't want granny cutting in the line....", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_19:58:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9073933, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9068763": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Why the hell am I going to Walgreens when this guy is right around the corner?  I'm using this pharmacy from now on.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_16:18:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "1488e53eec8112cfb5c300e8f02ddc60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9210077": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Too narrow ... please scroll down.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-11_13:44:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "Mahtli69", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9197446, "depth": 11, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9069278": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It's surreal like a Mad Max movie.  Ballard needs a Robo Cop.  Maybe a night in armor that drives a Hummer up and down Market to keep an eye on the zombies who crawl seem to crawl out of holes after midnight.   In all seriousness, it's time Ballard's business owners invest in their own security officers.  All other major retail shopping centers have them.   U-Village has security officers all over the place.  You don't see any BS happening over there.   If we're not going to see North Seattle police officers on the beat, I'd at least feel a better sense of security to see Mall Cops.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_16:35:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8a5972dbb90e70fbd49004d250a36a6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9067922, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9081055": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "One might go as far as to think you shouldn't walk around alone at that time.<br><br>Who knew?!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:00:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "abaa3dec2562c6278bcc4f9b219e7645", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9077222, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9108347": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I would say the video is proof of what I suspected.  I saw no robbery attempt.  Now I understand what the posters mean when they say they were accosted or assaulted in Ballard.  They mean they saw someone who looked different than they do.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_17:36:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "2de6d0e797775c6ec04c3ea0937b2c21", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 28, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9081202, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9157350": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Actually chopper I said I was wishing to move but will not unless I can find a good set up like I now have.  In this market that is iffy.   Ballard is a nice neighborhood but, with the exception of college, I have lived here all my life and I grow a little tired of it.    I am not a hater of change and in many ways, and in many areas; Ballard is a nicer place than it was 30 years ago.   I don\u2019t have issue with the condos and miss few if any of the businesses that have closed.    I would miss the ability to walk to work but that\u2019s about it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_10:22:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "2de6d0e797775c6ec04c3ea0937b2c21", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9142575, "depth": 8, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071849": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Welcome Troll ..... My_pink_trike", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:12:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "59ef4a198915844a499031df7b26ae57", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 8, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071488, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9070828": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Just got off the phone with Office Hage of North SPD.  He's a member of our Community Police Team.   I found out we can hire off-duty SPD officers.  They work in pairs, so we would have to pay for two.   We would hire them to start out randomly twice per month.  This way, the street doesn't know which nights they will be out.  We might be able to set up a mechanism to raise funds through our District Coordinator, Ron Mattson.   I understand Rob is working closely with Ballard's Chamber.   This could be a start.   The city just doesn't have the funding to provide officers to be down walking or riding bikes on a beat at this time.  This means local business owners must help fund the cause.  Likewise, many individuals are willing to throw a few bucks into the public safety pot.<br><br>Also, note if you witness drug deals going down, please record as much information as you can, and call North SPD's Anti-crime Team number, 684-0748.<br><br>We can all make a difference if we stay on top of this.   You should as well consider starting and participating in local citizen patrols, like the one currently operating in Belltown.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:31:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8a5972dbb90e70fbd49004d250a36a6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070052, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9061101": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "always come in heavy.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_12:31:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "3214a8625cc8b9e86b99a7ed5f59f78b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9162480": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "It is on that video twice, when he is handing them a pre-written piece of paper, you are just ignoring it to fit your view of reality.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_14:45:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9160090, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071859": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ha ha Gunluver<br><br>I know! It's become almost funny at this point. They do what they want, take what they want, attack anyone they want, and there are virtually no police ANYWHERE to stop them. They walk all around with open beers and take drugs, like they are at a huge house party. But, downtown you have teams of cops on everything from bikes to horses, inside cars, undercover,  patrolling Belltown. It's become almost funny, but sad too. That is because there are WAY more voters down there for Nikels. Try walking through downtown with an open beer. See how far you get.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:12:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d628cfc8d68ff6abb74a98c16741315", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071640, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9069012": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "If he fires his gun, isn't he guilty of lead poisoning?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_16:26:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "05e22c7610508196006c1e112f407808", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9061631": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Beautiful,  would like to see more of that. should be part of there schooling. if they are ganna be carring the street drug of choice. i ran into a plumber the other day who was carring a 45 cuz all the stealing that use to go on with the copper and the meth heads. now copper is down in price they go for something else. smart business guys kinda like madoff.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_12:49:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "b283543c00d0fdc4727b68a595d83838", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9078016": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "That's true from a loss/shrinkage point of view, but when your store's neighborhood is considered unsafe or has the appearance of being unsafe from a large meth/crackhead population you will lose customers and their business.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_21:34:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "fec52287d82ab7ebf714b1b88fca6baa", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9073476, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9151745": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Sorry Rose,<br>A loose cannon is you...<br>My guess, is that his business has suffered no loss, in fact, as long as he is vigilant, it won't.<br>Thanks again Mike.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_02:41:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9144576, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9210116": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Speaking of training and temperament ...<br><a href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0</a>", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-11_13:45:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "Mahtli69", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9210060, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9196807": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The Swiss generally keep their machine gun after their service is completed. However, the weapon first has the automatic action disabled.<br><br><a href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland#Army_issued_arms\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Sw...</a><br><br>My point is that there are more rifles than handguns in Switzerland. Rifles are inherently safer because 1) they are difficult to conceal and 2) it's easier to hit what you aim at. It also isn't legal to carry a gun around with you unless you have a specific reason to do so (like a job in security).<br><br><a href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland#Carrying_guns\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Sw...</a><br><br>Switzerland is 3rd in the world with 46 guns per 100 residents. The US is 1st, with 90 guns per 100 residents. What was chopper_74's point about violent crime statistics again?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-11_01:35:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "Mahtli69", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9194902, "depth": 9, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9082123": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Too right.  Might be nice to have a mayor who understood you don't get one without the other, though.  Right now, if your business isn't downtown (or Belltown) you don't get protection.  Guess the folks on the cruise ships don't get up this far. <br>Better mayor.  More cops.  Too much to ask?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:36:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "5b8abab8a8e92d61737d0f8d1bc6fdfb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9081178, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9073933": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The food bank has security guards at the food bank.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_19:09:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "LBB", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071616, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9070863": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Thanks Roy - I grew up in rural Montana and my Dad is an avid gun collector so I have experience with firearms. Dad's main gun rules are: Never point a gun at someone unless you mean to shoot them & if you do shoot someone you better make sure they are on your property! <br><br>Having grown up in the country around guns of all types I have this advice to anyone who owns guns and has kids...As with most things, if you make the gun a big scarry no no your kids will want to see it, touch it and shoot it out of curiosity. Be responsible and teach your kids how to safely use them. Take away the mystery and the mystique. It never occured to me to sneak around to see my Dad's guns..all I had to do was ask and he would take me shooting. I know this is different because I was not in a city, but education and safety are the top priority when you own a firearm. <br><br>As far as hiring private security and the Ballard Chamber...I work at a retail store in the Ballard area and the Chamber is useless. They only care about Seafood Fest and nothing else. They have no interest in helping with anything. We asked for their assistance in getting the City to fix all the street lights on Market and they said that was not their job and we should call the Mayor...thanks for nothing. <br><br>Most Ballard retail stores are having a tough time right now, so dishing out more $$ for private security is a long shot. If you want merchants to hire private security I recommend that you all start/keep putting your dollars in your local shops. Then maybe we can get some security.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:32:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "e4f05f6f5fcca71770982d17fbb18c42", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9069337": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Me too.  I'm tired of running the gauntlet of \"Real Change\" sellers at Bartells.  From now on, I'm going to this place for all my presecription needs.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_16:36:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "Ballard_Sucks_Now", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9061521, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9138971": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Maybe he was looking for the doctor because he wasn't up front.  Maybe he was headed for the door because he had a large man with a gun chasing after him.  <br><br>He wasn't headed for the door before he saw the gun.  Maybe you should watch the video again.  Based on this evidence, I'd say he pulled the gun out on a guy wearing a hoodie.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_16:20:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "4cd288bccb9c0b2133aba92818f3c7e9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 26, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9116599, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9063898": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Any gun store, and any place that sells shotguns (most sporting-goods, K Marts, and Wal Marts).<br><br>You may also be able to order pepper spray online, but do your research first.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_13:48:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "e2ccdca7238236eea9d5e2aa8e85b921", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9063760, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9173791": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "yes, I do.<br>g'night Rose", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_23:53:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9172439, "depth": 11, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9061664": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I live around the corner from Bob Johnson's Pharmacy, Wild Mountain Cafe and the Methodist Church. I had no idea that these things happened. Over the past few weeks we have seen increasing amounts of drug dealing and transients in Baker Park just off of 85th on Mary Ave NW. There is also a group of teenage thugs that hangs out in that area, they throw trash in our yard and sit in their crappy cars blasting music all night long. It sucks, I no longer feel safe walking my dog by myself in my own neighborhood.  Hmmm...how much is a concealed weapons license in this state???", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_12:50:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "e4f05f6f5fcca71770982d17fbb18c42", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9159910": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Can you show me these statistics?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_12:34:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "41da813df958bd6cab71c457dd3f4a8e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9148037, "depth": 8, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9116962": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Where do you start?  Join the chamber?    I agree, it's not worth throwing money at the problem.  We all know who the thugs are.  When someone gets seriously hurt or killed by them in Ballard, the city may actually be forced to do something.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_23:34:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8a5972dbb90e70fbd49004d250a36a6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9097899, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9064227": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Hmmm...they must have edited out the part where the guy was tryng to rob the place.  Does this mean anyone with a hoodie trying to fill a prescription will get chased out with a gun?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_13:57:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "AlonzoNeighbor", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9081126": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Couldn't agree more, SPG.  Simply not enough cops to go around.  And there seems to be no shortage of criminals.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:04:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "5b8abab8a8e92d61737d0f8d1bc6fdfb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9078330, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9069871": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "i doubt it.  just seems that the way and kind of hoodie could lean someone to caution.  it is what it is folks.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_16:54:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "2b224763672e60c289d49df2f2308025", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9064227, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9161010": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "We are all subsets aren't we? And we have our own perspectives, I tend to be a public safety hack, so crime issues are important to me, and I'm not alone. But, calling anyone or any group a subset, is to minimize their importance in the community. imho.<br>Again, read about the bird, the park, the french place, anything else, if this isn't your cup of tea. But, you can't help it, can you?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_13:30:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 19, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9159104, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9194803": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "After passing their concealed carry law, Florida's homicide rate fell from 36% above the national average to 4% below, and remains below the national average (as of the last reporting period, 2005). <br><br>Cramer C and Kopel D. Shall issue: the new wave of concealed handgun permit laws. Golden CO: Independence Institute Issue Paper. October 17, 1994<br><br>In Texas, murder rates fell 50% faster than the national average in the year after their concealed carry law passed. Rape rates fell 93% faster in the first year after enactment, and 500% faster in the second. Assaults fell 250% faster in the second year.<br><br>Bureau of Justice Statistics, online database, reviewing Texas and U.S. violent crime from 1995-2001.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-10_23:02:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9191249, "depth": 8, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9186115": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "If you're a public safety hack, I can only assume that you are alarmed by the recent sentiment on this board towards owning guns. Despite occasional sensationalistic news stories like the one about the pharmacist packing heat, statistics show overwhelmingly that guns make a neighborhood more dangerous, not less.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-10_14:46:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "Mahtli69", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 15, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9161010, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9065280": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I'm glad he wasn't hurt, and that the robbers didn't get away with it. But I've got to say that that gun scares me away too.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_14:29:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "bc090c4ca25e9744f6051acb4e3ea5ef", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9076547": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "x2", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_20:24:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "365df5d245e280791c4f1b45f7e5f1b2", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070944, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9073476": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "One other thing to consider: meth heads and transients are not the ones you need to worry about as a retailer. That's not where your shrinkage is coming from. <br><br>I worked corporate L/P for a national retailer and of all of our stores it was the ones in the wealthier cities that had higher theft rates, not the ones in dicier 'hoods. Reality the biggest source of shrink for most retailers is their own employees, not the crack heads (that's what happens when you pay minimum wage!) If you doubt that look up any of the papers published by Dr. Richard Hollinger who is regarded as the leading authority on the subject. Also keep in mind most shoplifters are not transients or meth heads. Most shoplifters have on them at the time of apprehension the means to pay for the merchandise they're stealing. Most are bored teenagers, housewives and people who steal for the thrill of it rather than out of need. Others are part of organized retail theft rings who steal from stores and then sell the merchandise on e-Bay. You certainly do come across your share of homeless and crack head crooks but they're not the problem since they're pretty easy to spot. It's the clean cut, polite person who acts like a good customer that's going to take you $10-100k. I personally investigated cases where the crook turned out to be a doctor, lawyer, teacher, grad student, fire fighter, Navy SEAL, carpenter, and TV news anchor. The idea that you can spot a shoplifter by how they dress is simply a myth. <br><br>Retailers cracking down on transients is sort of like when people pass assault gun bans in an effort to reduce gun violence. It's a scary looking stereotype that people are afraid of but in actuality it does little to reduce the problem.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_19:03:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "5eb728ecf90fb9654e4f30da93a897da", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070052, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9142085": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "If you want to go out at 3 AM and police Ballard be my guest.<br><br>And to be fair, anyone wearing a hoodie and out at 3AM is going to have a \"thug\" look to them.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_18:32:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "4cd288bccb9c0b2133aba92818f3c7e9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9081931, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071436": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Ballard Sucks Now -<br><br>Where can I get one of those posters?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:56:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d628cfc8d68ff6abb74a98c16741315", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9069722, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9080802": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Do they take Aetna??!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_22:43:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "ninaf", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9081167": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I feel great emotion and courage.<br>I also feel screwed.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:07:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9077394, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9063760": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Where can I buy pepper spray?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_13:44:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "ebf4a133c021dc2e18e6e5cfdf1c85f4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9191249": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Better cite those stats.  <br><br>No one messes with the Swiss becasue they hold all the money.  No other reason.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-10_19:19:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "2de6d0e797775c6ec04c3ea0937b2c21", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9186501, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9211278": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "thank you.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-11_14:27:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9194803, "depth": 9, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071962": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "And its Mike not Bob.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:17:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "59ef4a198915844a499031df7b26ae57", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071849, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9098076": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "a few years ago i remember massachussates pharmacies having signs saying \"NO OXYCONTIN HERE\", and some patient advocate groups got angry and brought the case to the supreme court... i don't recall the outcome or whether or not the case is still pending/appeal/whatever...", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_12:58:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "40af1a775dd8973643b9a83814d617f1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9077695, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9060704": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I'm pretty leary of guns but I loved this video! Make my day, punk!<br><br>Then, some loser probably thought they were robbing the Crown Hill Meth church.<br><br>Why don't these pharmacies start boycotting the oxycontin that the druggies are after?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_12:18:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "0660a8326eb7c203989575c455a8624b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071969": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "It's kind of true, though.  What was he going to do, shoot at the guy on a busy street?<br><br>Not saying I won't give him business, just saying.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:17:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "9af9da9476e4da70149e28db47f281f4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071849, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9142116": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"If you are afraid, sorry, stay alert, out of the way, and you'll be just fine.\"<br><br>What in the hell are you talking about?<br><br>All your posts have this \"I'm noble\" quality going for them, like you're out there, fighting for the greater good when you're just posting on a frickin' blog.   It's sad.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_18:33:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "4cd288bccb9c0b2133aba92818f3c7e9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9116789, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9061221": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Bob Johnson, local hero", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_12:35:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "TTTCOTTH", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9161066": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I stand corrected, sorry Rose.<br>Enjoy your stay.<br>Just watch out for<br>'that fool John Wayne wanna be'...<br>aka, my good neighbor.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_13:32:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9157350, "depth": 9, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9093487": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "How about going to visit Todd in the hospital for proof?  Or simply read the paper.   The facts are the proof.   No one individual is being accused of anything.  There are many inferences being made based on generalized observations.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_10:54:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8a5972dbb90e70fbd49004d250a36a6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9082815, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9081202": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "God, this site sure did become a bunch of frightened,  gun toting nut jobs.  It's weird and really not the neighborhood I thought I was in.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:09:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "abaa3dec2562c6278bcc4f9b219e7645", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 40, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9061236": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Bravo, sir.  <br>When the thugs outnumber the cops somebody has to look out for local businesses.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_12:35:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "5b8abab8a8e92d61737d0f8d1bc6fdfb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9076087": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I attract no transients, I tolerate no transients, panhandling, etc.<br>And I've been FAR FROM SILENT!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_19:59:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070052, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071994": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Ah, it is Mike indeed. I'm no troll. Just a concerned citizen, like you hopefully.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:18:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "ed222781c6206e2f6b921ee055875d57", "has_been_anonymized": true, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071962, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9076603": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yeah, the Ballard Chamber has proven itself to be worse than useless.  The street lighting here is a total joke.  But they will do nothing.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_20:27:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "5b8abab8a8e92d61737d0f8d1bc6fdfb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071281, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9116028": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Actually I was referencing the CDC stats from 2006 which listed 360 firearm related deaths that were the result of \"legal intervention\" compared to 642 to \"unintentional\" deaths. Suicides were the biggest group - 16,883 (4,000+ more than homicides).<br><br>You are right, guns are still VASTLY safer than cars. Always amazes me how many things people will freak out about when it comes to safety but then think nothing about getting behind the wheel of a car! Cars are still the number one killer of children - way ahead of pitbulls, assault rifles, stranger abductions and all the other media fueled paranoias.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_22:40:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "5eb728ecf90fb9654e4f30da93a897da", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9078235, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9065853": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Try to take away a mans livelihood = put your life in their hands.  The poor guy had to do this what five times?  No one should be afraid to shop there.,  just robbers!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_14:44:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "59ef4a198915844a499031df7b26ae57", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 14, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071488": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Shame on Bob. I don't understand how running out onto the street brandishing a gun is making our community safer. I will *never* give him my business.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:58:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "13b6ec21855e822a9e36f418f08a6b8c", "has_been_anonymized": true, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 9, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9197446": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The CCW holder crime statistics were provided as a counter to your unsubstantiated claim that because people legally own a gun that they would be more likely to commit a crime with it.  A wild assertion that has no bearing in reality.<br><br>The pool statistics are given to give a comparative risk to an inanimate object.  As humans we are really good at misplacing the actual risk imposed by activities or inanimate objects.  Look at BHO and his fear of the homeless when most of the violent crime is committed by people who may not be high on the economic ladder but tend to have a domicile of their own.  Now before he comes back with stories yes there are bad people in any group, but the majority of people are good.<br><br>There are a lot of dangerous things in life from cars to chainsaws, haven made the effort to learn safe gun handling and by observing the four simple rules of gun safety I have personally mitigated the risk to the point where it is really statistically insignificant.  <br><br>As for the Suicide issue it is complicated, and also note that those states with high rates do tend to have less services and and high risk populations.  Unfortunately there are several ways to effectively end ones life even in the heat of the moment if one makes that tragic decision.<br><br>The DOJ statistics are from cases where there was an arrest or a conviction, something that does not happen with every defensive use.<br><br>\"More than 450,000 crimes, including 10,744 murders, are committed with guns each year. But Americans also use guns defensively about 2.5 million times a year, and 98 percent of the time merely brandishing the weapon is sufficient to stop an attack.\" <br><br>Bogus lawsuits a crime against gun-owning public,  Washington Times Feb. 24, 1999.<br><br>As for the rape victims being attacked by those they know, of course a firearm is not a magic talisman, it is a force multiplier and that is it, a tool that should be your last resort.  I would assume that these statistics do include attacks by people known by the victim.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-11_02:36:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9196543, "depth": 10, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9141313": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The ACLU could have a field day with this one.  If that man could be found I smell serious law suit.  <br><br>That fool John Wayne wanna be is gonna kill someone and lose his business.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_17:55:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "2de6d0e797775c6ec04c3ea0937b2c21", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 15, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9138971, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9191817": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Gun users are far more likely to 1) accidentally shoot someone, 2) have a family member commit suicide by gun, or 3) commit a crime themselves by illegally shooting someone in \"self-defense\" than they are of successfully and legally preventing a crime by using their gun.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-10_20:05:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "Mahtli69", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9186294, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9146765": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": ")ver 90 percent of of defensive uses of guns do not involve firing a shot at the perp, of those I am sure that not all hit  their targets and of that group a tiny number cause death.  <br><br>If you do not kill the perp did it not \"save your family\"?", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_22:18:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9116028, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9082766": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "How can you say \"things were great here before you came\" when you don't know me at all? <br><br>Are you an adult?<br><br>Would you like it if your kids (if you have them) knew your internet persona?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:57:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85e894bb3007886bd7d0c08f1bf9d32", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9082526, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9142575": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "She opened the move, by stating she was moving.<br>Any comment about what my point actually was?<br>Or, are we just going to call each other names...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_18:55:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9142163, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9067922": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "By the way business owners.<br><br>I went for a drive at 3 am this morning. Ballard Ave, Leary Way and Market street had at least one pair of prowlers working each street. Unreal to see. It was like they were window shopping, right out in the open.<br><br>Totally empty streets, with transients paired off ,walking up and down the streets, looking at doors, into windows, and ducking behind buildings and into shadows when they saw me coming. Of course, not a single cop anywhere, so they had the run of the place. Like something out of a movie, where everyone is killed by a bio weapon, but a few Mad Max types survive and search for supplies. They could have taken anything they wanted and nobody would have seen or heard them. Not a soul on the streets, aside from meth heads and transients running downtown Ballard streets.<br><br>I only logged on here, because I assumed there would be at least one story about a break in last night.<br><br> Same suspects - Young, very dirty and grimey white males with hooded sweatshirts pulled up over their heads, so you could not see their faces. ages in the early 20's - late 30's. Meth looking types", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_15:48:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d628cfc8d68ff6abb74a98c16741315", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 12, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9067161, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9142163": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "No need to be such a dick.  She has a different viewpoint and you want her out of Ballard?  Lame.<br><br>And where, in that post, does she mention, she'd be cheering?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_18:36:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "4cd288bccb9c0b2133aba92818f3c7e9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9141814, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9103342": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "And I go all Gomer Pyle in leadership roles.  Perhaps MDFS or Seaspider?  TTTCOTTH?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_14:56:04", "killed": false, "user_key": "5b8abab8a8e92d61737d0f8d1bc6fdfb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9097899, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9194902": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "after their service, where they actually carry a machine gun around with them during the day they are actually compelled to own either a rifle or a pistol, most are privately owned.  <br><br>Pistols are also the most common firearm to be used in defense situations. In fact 80% of gun defenses, the defender used a concealable handgun.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-10_23:09:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9191898, "depth": 8, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9143191": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "You have no proof his actions have saved lives because it's impossible to prove.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_19:26:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "4cd288bccb9c0b2133aba92818f3c7e9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9142575, "depth": 8, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9070916": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Doesn't scare me one bit.  Then again, I don't walk into shops with my face hidden.<br><br>Try walking into a bank with your gray hoodie pulled up so your face can't be seen...", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:35:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "Ballard_Sucks_Now", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9065538, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9160090": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "You're seeing things.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_12:44:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "cde8605de6e0576a87aa98f03d478ba3", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9147401, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9195930": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Exactly, Rose.  I was basing what I said on the video.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-11_00:27:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "abaa3dec2562c6278bcc4f9b219e7645", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9168934, "depth": 9, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9191898": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Switzerland is 8th in the world in accidental gun deaths per capita. For the most part, they obtain their guns through their military service. For enlisted men, that gun is a rifle, which is much  safer than a handgun and less likely to be used in a crime.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-10_20:11:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "Mahtli69", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9186501, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9061795": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "isn't he just another drug-dealer waving a gun around?<br><br>seriously though, how did he catch those six people?  did they 'freeze' when he pulled out the heat or did his cameras catch their description/vehicle?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_12:53:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "41a9abaafc830b9e91e2336f8443ec21", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9081256": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "been sayin' this for months now.....i guess someone else is finally seeing the light.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:13:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "2b224763672e60c289d49df2f2308025", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9076941, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9195945": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Maybe I'll head over with a hoodie on and see if he pulls a gun on me.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-11_00:28:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "23edea03f42145611c4a8dbc3e062774", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9174069, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9063339": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Great work Mike!  I've been going  there for years and I love having a family run pharmacy in a  neighborhood full  of Walgreens and Bartells.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_13:33:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c5579266c8952664bb99fc960895800", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9081266": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "you're about 6 years too late.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:13:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "2b224763672e60c289d49df2f2308025", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9078197, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9076661": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Exactly!  And there won't be a lot of local businesses if punks like this have their way.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_20:30:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "5b8abab8a8e92d61737d0f8d1bc6fdfb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9072610, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9116599": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Rose, you didn't see that scum-bag looking for the good doctor? The moment he saw the doctor, he was headed for the door, that was before he said or showed anything. Take another look, and leave your bias at the door.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_23:13:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 27, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9108347, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9195963": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Kay, that's actually pretty funnty.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-11_00:29:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "23edea03f42145611c4a8dbc3e062774", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9170532, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9119164": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "like a traffic light, crosswalk, or stop sign. Death has to occur, sometimes more than a few, before the city feels obligated to study the issue. And I do mean study, after a while of that, they may do something...<br>geez, I feel a rash, damn politics.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_00:45:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9116962, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9077695": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "A lot of pharmacies do, or they stock very very little of it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_21:17:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "fec52287d82ab7ebf714b1b88fca6baa", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9060704, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9119168": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I can't help but notice that 90% of the comments in this thread are made by the same 5 people who comment repeatedly on EVERY post involving crime. Most of you sound paranoid to me. <br><br>Property crime is probably up because of the soaring unemployment rate (doubled in this area since one year ago). Violent crime is infrequent enough that it makes a spectacular story when it happens. Ballard has always been a little sketchy. It's part of the charm. It's still the safest neighborhood I've ever lived in.<br><br>Belltown is MUCH worse than Ballard, so that comparison is a laugh.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_00:46:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "Mahtli69", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9080770": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Thanks SPG.   Great feedback and most of us realize this.   You folks do a fine job for what you have to work with.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_22:41:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8a5972dbb90e70fbd49004d250a36a6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9078330, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9076675": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It's one guy whose name is Isaac.  He's a nice person.  You should try talking to him sometime instead of viewing him as an obstacle.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_20:30:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "3c28f684ae8ae8b952165ad439bf59db", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070873, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9186294": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Mahtlai69, I'm not as paranoid as a lot of the commenters on here but show me these statistics, everything I've seen shows that the prescience of guns actually has no impact on crime either way.<br><br>\u201cThere\u2019s no clear relationship between more guns and higher<br>levels of violence.\u201d <br><br>Keith Krause, Project Director, Small Arms Survey project, Graduate Institute of International Studies, Geneva,<br>2007", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-10_14:56:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9186115, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9142215": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "And this Mike Donahue for Sheriff guy is pulling a joke on everyone, anyway.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-08_18:38:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "4cd288bccb9c0b2133aba92818f3c7e9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9081931, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9069516": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "He should have shot the guy in the Ass!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_16:42:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "97f8c0053e8aed157415dda2673c9e68", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9069012, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9081295": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "and if we use photo cop we can get more cops off traffic patrol and onto foot patrol where they should be.  handling the true crime, not the revenue crime.  <br><br>don't get started on traffic violations pleeeze!", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:16:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "2b224763672e60c289d49df2f2308025", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9078330, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9195985": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Why is it that people can't realize that drowning statistics are irrelevant?<br><br>Comparing a gun to a pool?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-11_00:31:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "23edea03f42145611c4a8dbc3e062774", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9194684, "depth": 9, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9078226": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Pro-business? Can we have someone who is pro-the people?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_21:46:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "aad2cbdc12c36cd98a2d652f01f29773", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9076941, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9072084": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Did you get a quote on what an off-duty SPD will cost? I used to work for a national retailer and every so often we'd terminate someone in one of our stores for stealing and they'd threaten our staff and we'd have to hire off duty cops just to play it safe. They were very, very expensive - far more than a private security guard. In many areas it was time and a half which often worked out to $40-60/hour. Worth the peace of mind when you have a ex-employee threaten your staff but not something most retailers can afford to do on an on-going basis.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:22:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "5eb728ecf90fb9654e4f30da93a897da", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070828, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9173974": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It is, this story is new, the incident was a while ago.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-10_00:08:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9168934, "depth": 9, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9081303": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "it's not anymore.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_23:16:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "2b224763672e60c289d49df2f2308025", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9081202, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9071066": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I agree 100% MSFS - why the hell aren't the businesses doing anything about this?  THEY are the ones who are the primary targets (at least based on what was observed).  And as you point out, they support the things that attract the bums here (food bank, etc.).<br><br>Would it do any good to try and shame them into coming 'round?  Make a list of those local busnesses that are promoting vagrancy, post it on the web, and ask locas to boycott them until they become part of the solution rather than part of the problem?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:41:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "Ballard_Sucks_Now", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070052, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9078235": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "SeaSpider,<br><br>\"more likely that the gun will accidentally kill a member of your family than save them\"<br><br>It was from this study and have been completely discredited.<br><br>Arthur L. Kellerman, Protection or Peril?: An Analysis of Firearm-Related Deaths in the Home, 314 New Eng. J. Med. 1557-60 1986.<br><br>Of the 43 deaths reported in this flawed study, 37 (86%) were suicides. Other deaths<br>involved criminal activity between the family members (drug deals gone bad).<br><br>Of the remaining deaths, the deceased family members include felons, drug dealers,<br>violent spouses committing assault, and other criminals.<br><br>If you live with felons, take risks or abuse drugs they are much safer then pools cars or even doctors.<br><br>This being said, if you choose to arm yourself please seek training.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_21:46:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9069536, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9069536": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Good for him! That said, people should think twice before carrying a sidearm. For starters, the numbers don't lie: odds are more likely that the gun will accidentally kill a member of your family than save them. Lots of people die from accidents whether it's forgetting the weapon is loaded or accidentally shooting a family member coming home late. There's also the risk of someone jumping you from behind and taking your sidearm and using it against you.<br><br>It's not just enough that you know how to use a gun - you need to make sure EVERYONE in your house knows how to use it. This includes your children. I grew up in a cop family which meant we had two pistols, a shotgun and a M-16 in the house. I knew how to safely handle these weapons before I even started grade school and I also knew to never play with them. Don't assume that because a gun is locked up your kids can't get into it. Of course if it is locked up it's also going to be pretty useless for self defense! For a gun to defend you it has to be easy to get at it. Problem is that also makes it easy to get at for your kids.<br><br>There's also the matter of learning to shoot in a self-defense situation. Shooting on a range and shooting for real are very different situations. Guys who are ace shots on the range can't hit the side of a barn in combat. There's a reason it takes thousands of rounds of ammo for every enemy soldier killed. A nice way to simulate this is to do what we did in the Army: do 25 push-ups or a 20 yard sprint and then try to shoot. This is also why the biathlon is such a hard sport - shooting while you're heart is pounding is EXTREMELY hard to to do, even at close range.<br><br>If you insist on a gun for home defense a shotgun is a much better way to go. You're much more likely to hit your target and there's much less risk of the bullet going through a wall and accidentally killing someone in the next room or your neighbor. Downside is you can't really go walking down the streets of Seattle with a concealed shotgun! <br><br>Pepper spray leaves much to be desired, especially if it's windy out. Too great a risk that it will diffuse or blow back in your face. A better solution is the PepperBlaster from Kimber America. This device fires a jet of liquid rather than an aerosol spray. Much more accurate, longer range, more effective and it won't blow back in your face.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_16:43:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "5eb728ecf90fb9654e4f30da93a897da", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 17, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9072610": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"Shame\"? The shame is that these POS aren't stuffed into a crab pot and left in the Ocean for a day or so.  Your concern should be with the local businesses left to defend themselves with little help from the city.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:38:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "a904201d5993d8faab0911712c03dc2c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9071994, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9070052": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Mall Cop is correct -<br><br>How come every time someone mentions the merchants hire security, there is dead silence from them? They have no problem putting up all sorts of Christmas lights each year at a huge cost and that hay stuff on poles at Thanksgving, but God forbid they hire a security gaurd to walk the business district. Just pitch in and hire a couple Ballard bar doorman who need some extra shifts. Whats so hard to figure out?  You can call 911 til you're blue in the face. It's a waste of time. If the businesses support the food bank and give handouts to the transients who come in, and let them set up panhandling outside their stores, there is a price to pay so the rest of us don't have to deal with the problems the transients create. You wanna have pet transients? Pay for security to police them.<br><br>You attract the transients, now YOU foot the bill to clean up the mess Ballard business owners.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_17:01:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d628cfc8d68ff6abb74a98c16741315", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 10, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9069536, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9077222": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Gee, no one is out at 3 a.m. except dicey-looking characters?  What a shock!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_20:51:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "3c28f684ae8ae8b952165ad439bf59db", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9067922, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9072105": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The Lombardi Real real guys are worse. They are drunk half the time.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_18:23:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d628cfc8d68ff6abb74a98c16741315", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9070873, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9076717": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Ballard just does not have the Nikels voters downtown does. Its all about votes. Thats why the have horseback, cruisers and bike police patrolling every single blog. A numbers game.<br><br>They can't spare two bike cops accourding to Officer Haag or a single cruiser? Sure pal, whatever you say. Why don't the police tell Belltown to hire their own off duty cops. We dont even get on duty ones, we ARE PAYING FOR with our property taxes.<br><br>Since when is the polices job to tell the citizens to hire cops out of their own pockets, if they don't like the crime wave? This sounds like Mexico. Todd was practically beaten to death. But, they tell us to shut up, or hire cops out of our pockets if we want any protection. <br><br>Seriously, its how its done in Mexico City<br><br>They want us to forget, we are paying for police already. Why should we need to bribe them to come to Ballard?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_20:32:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "0d628cfc8d68ff6abb74a98c16741315", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 10, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9075804, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9061870": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "@MT Girl - $55, plus you must have a squeaky-clean record.  You have to go into downtown and be fingerprinted, then wait 30 days for processing.  They are good for 5 years.<br><br>However (and I say this in all seriousness, and as someone who carries) - a CPL is not the right choice for everyone.  You really need to research what your rights (and more importantly) your responsibilities and liabilities are.  In many cases you may feel just as safe with pepper spray, which is far less lethal and permanent.<br><br>In addition, you need to put some time in in training to know how to react to a situation.<br><br>There are about a gazillion other factors that you need to take into consideration.  Start with the pepper spray, and then start doing the research.  If you still feel like you need to take the next step, and least be prepared and informed.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_12:56:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "451eeea0d261aba2dbd84474a6c578df", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9061664, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9197555": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "OK the thread drift and small size of the responding box is getting old here so I'll let you guys co on but...<br><br>\"The major surveys completed in the past 20 years or more provides no evidence of<br>any relationship between the total number of legally held firearms in society and the rate of armed crime. Nor is there a<br>relationship between the severity of controls imposed in various countries or the mass of bureaucracy involved with many control systems with the apparent ease of access to firearms by criminals and terrorists\"<br><br>Colin Greenwood, \u201cMinutes of Evidence\u201d, Select Committee on Northern Ireland Affairs, January 29, 2003.<br><br>Pistols are also more practical for self defense and actually our victimization rate is pretty good in this country.  You are for more likely to be a victim of violent crime in England then you are here in the united states.  Most of the violent crime in this country is criminal against criminal due to the silly war on drugs and the rampant amount of organized crime in this country.<br><br>Mahtli69, if you ever want to sit and have coffee and talk about this let me know, I think we could have a productive talk even if it just cements our personal beliefs more.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-11_02:50:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9196807, "depth": 10, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9060854": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "stay strapped", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-06_12:23:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "974a2a5bbcae215f7fc290d287ba569b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9084924": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Thank you Trix. No, it's not too much to ask.<br>Since the big push as of late in the CD and Belltown, we, and other neighbors, are receiving the results.<br>Time to get the focus where it belongs. imho.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-07_01:50:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "chopper_74", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9082123, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9162749": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "you may want to see the eye doctor silence.kit<br><br>On Feb. 19, Douglas walked into the Bob Johnson Pharmacy at 1407 N.W .85th St. in Seattle and presented a note to the pharmacist indicating he had a gun and demanding oxycodone. The pharmacist returned to the counter with a semi-automatic Glock pistol, which he pointed at Douglas. Douglas left the store.<br><br><a href=\"http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/theblotter/2009191655_seattle_man_pleads_guilty_to_p.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/theblotte...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-05-09_14:59:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "5c48b7475cd4c0b18976a68fbeb4c4b6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "6 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 9162480, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "9196543": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Those are some interesting statistics. Some of them are relevant to the discussion about whether we are safer or not safer owning guns. Others, such as how dangerous swimming pools are, or how likely concealed-weapon permit holders are to be arrested for a violent crimes, are not.<br><br>I disagree with you regarding suicides. Suicides often occur when someone who is inclined towards depression has a psychological crisis. In these cases, suicide is usually an impulsive act, so access to a firearm will greatly increase the chance of them going through with it. According to the CDC, firearms accounted for 55% of all suicides in the US. According to the Harvard School of Public Health, the 15 states with the highest number of gun owners had double the suicide rate of the 6 states with the lowest number of gun owners. Population sizes of the states were similar. Globally, there are other cultural factors that make a direct comparison complicated.<br><br>I'm curious about your DOJ statistics, because they seem extremely incorrect. According to this victimization survey by the <br>DOJ (<a href=\"http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/hvfsdaft.txt\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/hvfsdaft...</a>), the average annual number of victimizations in which victims used firearms to defend themselves or their property is 82,500. This is significantly less than the 2.5 million per year that you claim (link please).<br><br>The same survey also says that there are an average of 340,700 crimes per year in which firearms are stolen. So, according to the DOJ, a gun is more than 4x as likely to be stolen as it is to be used to thwart a crime.<br><br>Finally, the statistics regarding rape victims are interesting, but ignore the fact that 70% of rape victims know their attacker.  I would expect that firearms are far less likely to be used in cases where the victim knows the attacker, and your statistics are skewed accordingly. Your assault statistics for both men and women are similarly biased. 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};

var disqus_popup_reference = null;

if(typeof DsqLocal == 'undefined') {
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}



/**
 * Dsq.Strings: UI strings
 */
Dsq.Strings = new function() {
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	this.LOGOUT = "Logout";
	this.SHARING_OPTIONS = "Sharing options";
	this.SHARE_ON = "Share on";
	this.TWEET_THIS_COMMENT = "Tweet this comment";
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	this.SORT_BY = "Sort by";
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	this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS = "Subscribe by RSS";
	this.POPULAR_NOW = "Popular now";
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	this.NEWEST_FIRST = "Newest first";
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	this.PAUSE = "Pause";
	this.RESUME = "Resume";
	this.SHOW = "Show";
	this.JUST_NOW = "Just now";
	this.REPLY = "Reply";
	this.EDIT = "Edit";
	this.FLAG = "Flag";
	this.MODERATE = "Moderate";
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	this.NAME = "Name";
	this.EMAIL = "Email";
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  this.SETTINGS = "Settings";
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/**
 * Dsq.FmtStrings: functions that return interpolated UI strings
 */
Dsq.FmtStrings = new function() {
	// Seems we have to use named interpolation for Django to translate. Investigate more.
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		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logged in as %(username)s', {username:username});
	};

	this.LOGOUT_FROM = function(disqus) {
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	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL = function(total, num) {
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	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION = function(num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comment", {num:num});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comments", {num:num});
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	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s comment'
				: '%(num)s comments'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_LIKES = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s like'
				: '%(num)s likes'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_POINTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s point'
				: '%(num)s points'
			), {num:num});
	};
};
// Dsq.FmtStrings





Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN = '4f0bfca82e06c976a1efdd7c783a5fd0';
Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /(<li.*?id="?dsq-comment-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-header-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*(<div.*?class="?dsq-comment-body"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-message-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "--&gt;" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /&lt;!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|&gt;)/gim;



// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://disqus.com/forums/myballard/pistol_packing_pharmacist_scares_away_robbers/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/images/noavatar92.png';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
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	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
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			var c = ca[i];
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			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
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			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
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		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
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			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
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			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
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		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
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	this.getScrollPos = function() {
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			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
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		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
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	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
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		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
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	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
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			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
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	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
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	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
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		return (arrReturnElements);
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	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
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			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			return parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/myballard/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">using Facebook Connect <a href="#" onclick="javascript:DisqusFbcParentController.logout();return false;">(Logout)</a></li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
					//
					//
					//
				((!Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) ?
					// Needs to be translated:
					('<p id="dsq-no-anon-msg">Required: Please log into <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> ' +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? 'or connect with Facebook ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? 'or sign in with Twitter ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


	this.header = function() {

		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">186</span> Comments\
	 &nbsp;\
	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
	 <a href="http://disqus.com/forums/myballard/pistol_packing_pharmacist_scares_away_robbers/latest.rss"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png"></a>\
	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
	 <option value="best" >Best Rating</option>\
	 <option value="newest" >Newest first</option>\
	 <option value="oldest" >Oldest first</option>\
	 </select>\
	 &nbsp;\
	 </span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://disqus.com/forums/myballard/pistol_packing_pharmacist_scares_away_robbers/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-subscribe">\
	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 </div>\
		';

		
			html = Dsq.Templates.authPost() + html;
		

		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-alert-message dsq-upgrade-message"> \
				<strong>Disqus upgrade available.</strong> Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-upgrade-message\').style.display=\'block\';this.style.display=\'none\';return false">Click here for details.</a> \
				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
					A new theme is available with added features. <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/settings/' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url + '/?p=customize">To change your theme, click here</a> and choose the theme Narcissus. \
					If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
					<strong>This message will automatically go away in one week.</strong> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/myballard/pistol_packing_pharmacist_scares_away_robbers/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via ' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? '<a href="http://backtype.com/">BackType</a>' : '<a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">UberVU</a>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
								 \
								 	<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You are commenting as a Guest. You may choose to log into an existing DISQUS Profile, your Facebook, Twitter or OpenID account to comment on My Ballard" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Optional:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
								<a id="dsq-reply-login-' + post_id + '" href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:17468920" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">Login</a> \
								 \
									&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'myballard',
			't'				: 'pistol_packing_pharmacist_scares_away_robbers',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/myballard/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/myballard/pistol_packing_pharmacist_scares_away_robbers/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/myballard/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'pistol_packing_pharmacist_scares_away_robbers'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/myballard/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'pistol_packing_pharmacist_scares_away_robbers'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/myballard/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'pistol_packing_pharmacist_scares_away_robbers'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/myballard/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/17468920/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
		// Returns the iframe node if and only if it was newly created.
		var found = false;
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				if (child.id == id) {
					child.style.display = 'block';
					found = true;
				} else {
					child.style.display = 'none';
				}
			}
		}
		if (found) {
			return;
		}
		// The iframe wasn't found, so construct it and add it to the container.
		// Don't use innerHTML because it might reload iframes
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		div.innerHTML = markup;
		var iframe = div.childNodes[0];
		div.removeChild(iframe);
		container.appendChild(iframe);
		return iframe;
	};

	// Public
	obj.makeReplyIframeId = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var id = 'dsq-post-add-iframe';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			id += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			id += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return id;
	};
	obj.makeLoginIframeId = function(opt_postId) {
		if (!opt_postId) {
			return 'dsq-login-iframe';
		}
		return 'dsq-login-iframe-' + opt_postId;
	};
	obj.makeReplyIframeName = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var name = 'dsq-reply-frame';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			name += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			name += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return name;
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId, opt_extraParams, opt_className) {
		// Construct the id so we can check if it's already present.
		// Hide any other iframes we find, and show this one if it's found.
		var params = opt_extraParams || {};
		// use xtype in the id and name so we can distinguish media replies from text replies:
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeId(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var name = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeName(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var attributes = {
			'id': id,
			'name': name,
			'class': opt_className || 'dsq-post-reply'
			};
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameReply(opt_postId, opt_extraParams, attributes);
		var iframe = showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
		// It was newly created
		if (iframe) {
			Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED, {
				postId: opt_postId,
				node: iframe,
				xtype: params.xtype
			});
		}
	};
	obj.showLoginIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId) {
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeLoginIframeId(opt_postId);
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: id});
		showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed = function(container, opt_postId) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			obj.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, opt_postId);
		} else {
			obj.hideAllInContainer(container);
		}
	};
	obj.hideAllInContainer = function(container) {
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				child.style.display = 'none';
			}
		}
	};

	return obj;
}();

Dsq.Twitter = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startTwitterConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._twitterWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/twitter/begin/', 'twitterWindow', popupParams);
		that._twitterInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeTwitterConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeTwitterConnect = function() {
		if (that._twitterWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._twitterInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Yahoo = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startYahooConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._yahooWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/yahoo/begin/', 'yahooWindow', popupParams);
		that._yahooInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeYahooConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeYahooConnect = function() {
		if (that._yahooWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._yahooInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.OpenID = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.requestURL = function() {
		var message = '<table class="dsq-openid-form"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;" rowspan="2"><img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url + '/images/openid-icon-100x100.png" /></td>';
		message += '<td><label for="dsq-openid-url">OpenID URL:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-url" /></td></tr>';
		message += '<tr><td><label for="dsq-openid-username">Display name:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-username" /></td></tr>';
		message += '<tr><td class="dsq-openid-submit" colspan="3"><input type="button" value="Sign in" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.startConnect();" /></td></tr>';
		message += "</table>";

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sign in using OpenID');
	};

	this.startConnect = function() {
		var isblank = function(str) {
			return /^\s*$/.test(str);
		};

		var openid_url = Dsq.$('dsq-openid-url').value;
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-openid-username').value;

		if (isblank(openid_url)) {
			return;
		}

		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=500';
		var url = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/openid/begin/' + '?url=' + encodeURIComponent(openid_url) + '&username=' + encodeURIComponent(username);
		that._openidWindow = window.open(url, 'openidWindow', popupParams);
		that._openidInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeConnect = function() {
		if (that._openidWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._openidInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Reaction = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.hide = function(id) {
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/myballard/hidereaction.js?' + 'reaction_id=' + id);
	};

	this.reportMissingReactions = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled) {
			return;
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.queued) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Your report has been received. The system will automatically search for new reactions; if any are found, they will be displayed on this comment thread.<br/><br/>Thank&nbsp;you.',
												 'Reported missing reactions');
			return;
		}

		Dsq.Utils.execScript(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/forums/myballard/queueurl.js');
	};
};

Dsq.CNN = function() {
	var obj = {};

	obj.authenticate = function() {
		var url = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + "/saml/cnn/try/";
		Dsq.Utils.postToUrl(url, {'target': document.location}, true);
	};

	return obj;
}();


if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
	(function() {
		DSQ_HEADER_AVATAR_RE = /<div class="dsq-header-avatar"(.*?)>/gim;
		Dsq.Templates.registerFilter('postPrependHeader', function(html, post_id) {
			// Add "onmouseout" for dsq-header-avatar for dropProfile
			// functionality since IE6 cannot use :hover.
			function _headerAvatarReplace(content, inner, _unused, html) {
				return '<div class="dsq-header-avatar" '
					+ inner
					+ ' onmouseout="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')">';
			}
			html = html.replace(DSQ_HEADER_AVATAR_RE, _headerAvatarReplace);
			return html;
		});
	})();
}









(function() {
	//
	// Load theme.  This overrides the base templates with template functions
	// from the respective themes.
	//
	if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
		var theme = 'narcissus';
		// HACK: Set variable on window to use post message.
		window.disqus_use_postmessage = true;

		
		for(var prop in Dsq.Themes[theme]) {
			if(Dsq.Themes[theme] && Dsq.Themes[theme].hasOwnProperty(prop)) {
				Dsq.Templates[prop] = Dsq.Themes[theme][prop];
			}
		}
		
		for(var prop in Dsq.Post) {
			if(Dsq.Themes[theme] && Dsq.Themes[theme].hasOwnProperty(prop)) {
				Dsq.Post[prop] = Dsq.Themes[theme][prop];
			}
		}
	}

	//
	// Register templates.  This must be done after all themes are loaded.
	//
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('authPost', Dsq.Templates.authPost);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('header', Dsq.Templates.header);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('footer', Dsq.Templates.footer);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('trackbacks', Dsq.Templates.trackbacks);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('reactions', Dsq.Templates.reactions);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('prependPost', Dsq.Templates.prependPost);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('appendPost', Dsq.Templates.appendPost);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postPrependHeader', Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postAppendHeader', Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('preBody', Dsq.Templates.preBody);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postBody', Dsq.Templates.postBody);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postFooter', Dsq.Templates.postFooter);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('_popupGeneric', Dsq.Templates._popupGeneric);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('voted', Dsq.Templates.voted);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('popupProfile', Dsq.Templates.popupProfile);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postBox', Dsq.Templates.postBox);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('pagination', Dsq.Templates.pagination);
	Dsq.Templates.registerTemplate('postComment_onSuccess', Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess);

})();

Dsq.container.className = "clearfix";
Dsq.container.innerHTML = ' \
<ul id="dsq-comments">\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9060704">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9060704" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9060704" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9060704">milo dakkat</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9060704" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9060704" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m pretty leary of guns but I loved this video! Make my day, punk!<br><br>Then, some loser probably thought they were robbing the Crown Hill Meth church.<br><br>Why don\'t these pharmacies start boycotting the oxycontin that the druggies are after?</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9077695">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9077695" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9077695" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9077695">SPG</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9077695" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9077695" class="dsq-comment-message">A lot of pharmacies do, or they stock very very little of it.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9098076">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9098076" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9098076" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9098076">John Smith</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9098076" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9098076" class="dsq-comment-message">a few years ago i remember massachussates pharmacies having signs saying "NO OXYCONTIN HERE", and some patient advocate groups got angry and brought the case to the supreme court... i don\'t recall the outcome or whether or not the case is still pending/appeal/whatever...</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9060854">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9060854" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9060854" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9060854">50intheclip</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9060854" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9060854" class="dsq-comment-message">stay strapped</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9061101">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9061101" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9061101" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9061101">ron</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9061101" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9061101" class="dsq-comment-message">always come in heavy.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9061221">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9061221" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9061221" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9061221">TTTCOTTH</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9061221" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9061221" class="dsq-comment-message">Bob Johnson, local hero</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9061236">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9061236" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9061236" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9061236">Trix</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9061236" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9061236" class="dsq-comment-message">Bravo, sir.  <br>When the thugs outnumber the cops somebody has to look out for local businesses.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9061521">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9061521" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9061521" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9061521">Roy Hobbs</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9061521" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9061521" class="dsq-comment-message">Hell. Yes.<br><br>I\'ll be switching my prescriptions over to them in the very near future.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9069337">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9069337" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9069337" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9069337">Ballard_Sucks_Now</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9069337" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9069337" class="dsq-comment-message">Me too.  I\'m tired of running the gauntlet of "Real Change" sellers at Bartells.  From now on, I\'m going to this place for all my presecription needs.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9069780">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9069780" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9069780" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9069780">Trix</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9069780" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9069780" class="dsq-comment-message">\'gauntlet?\'  It\'s one guy.  And there\'s never an issue when I walk by him without buying a paper.  And he certainly isn\'t a thug.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9070873">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9070873" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9070873" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9070873">Ballard_Sucks_Now</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9070873" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9070873" class="dsq-comment-message">I never said he was a thug (I can usually tell the difference).<br><br>Yes, it\'s one guy.  But it\'s one guy who is there apparently 24/7/365...or so it seems.  I don\'t think I\'ve walked into Bartells once in the past 3 or 4 years when there wasn\'t somebody there selling the paper.  It\'s like he\'s a part of the shopping experience there. At least at Ballard Market, they mix it up a little - you can actually go shopping there occasionally without having to say "no thanks" on the way in and out.  It\'s tiresome to deal with it e-v-e-r-y  t-i-m-e.<br><br>I guess I just have "homeless fatigue".  I used to buy the paper from time to time, but I\'m just tired of Ballard being Homeless Central, and until the city stops dumping all the homeless here, I\'ve decided to stop encouraging them.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9072105">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9072105" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9072105" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9072105">Mike Donahue for Sherrif</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9072105" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9072105" class="dsq-comment-message">The Lombardi Real real guys are worse. They are drunk half the time.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9076675">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9076675" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9076675" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9076675">Robert</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9076675" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9076675" class="dsq-comment-message">It\'s one guy whose name is Isaac.  He\'s a nice person.  You should try talking to him sometime instead of viewing him as an obstacle.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9076800">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9076800" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9076800" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9076800">Trix</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9076800" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9076800" class="dsq-comment-message">I understand the \'homeless fatigue\' but please leave the Real Change vendors out of this.  Most of these guys sell the paper so they CAN get a place to stay.  I walk by without buying the paper all the time and nothing happens to me.  I don\'t even say \'no thanks.\'<br>Unlike the crack heads who will yell profanity at me if I don\'t give them anything.  It\'s not the Real Change vendors who are robbing pharmacies.  It\'s those junky bozos. <br>And Real Change is actually a pretty good paper.  Challenging crossword, and everything.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9168414">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9168414" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9168414" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9168414">ktown69</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9168414" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9168414" class="dsq-comment-message">You can always just pull your "Ballard Sucks" hat down further over your eyes so you don\'t see him, which sounds like what you want to do...it doesn\'t take much effort for me to look him in the eyes and say, "no thanks".  He looks right back the says, "OK".</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9061631">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9061631" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9061631" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9061631">dav</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9061631" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9061631" class="dsq-comment-message">Beautiful,  would like to see more of that. should be part of there schooling. if they are ganna be carring the street drug of choice. i ran into a plumber the other day who was carring a 45 cuz all the stealing that use to go on with the copper and the meth heads. now copper is down in price they go for something else. smart business guys kinda like madoff.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9061664">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9061664" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9061664" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9061664">MT Girl</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9061664" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9061664" class="dsq-comment-message">I live around the corner from Bob Johnson\'s Pharmacy, Wild Mountain Cafe and the Methodist Church. I had no idea that these things happened. Over the past few weeks we have seen increasing amounts of drug dealing and transients in Baker Park just off of 85th on Mary Ave NW. There is also a group of teenage thugs that hangs out in that area, they throw trash in our yard and sit in their crappy cars blasting music all night long. It sucks, I no longer feel safe walking my dog by myself in my own neighborhood.  Hmmm...how much is a concealed weapons license in this state???</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9061870">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9061870" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9061870" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9061870">Roy Hobbs</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9061870" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9061870" class="dsq-comment-message">@MT Girl - $55, plus you must have a squeaky-clean record.  You have to go into downtown and be fingerprinted, then wait 30 days for processing.  They are good for 5 years.<br><br>However (and I say this in all seriousness, and as someone who carries) - a CPL is not the right choice for everyone.  You really need to research what your rights (and more importantly) your responsibilities and liabilities are.  In many cases you may feel just as safe with pepper spray, which is far less lethal and permanent.<br><br>In addition, you need to put some time in in training to know how to react to a situation.<br><br>There are about a gazillion other factors that you need to take into consideration.  Start with the pepper spray, and then start doing the research.  If you still feel like you need to take the next step, and least be prepared and informed.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9073202" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9073202" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9073202">gerri</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9073202" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9073202" class="dsq-comment-message">you dont need a squeeky clean record...i certainly dont have a clean record...NO FELONS..!!!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9077779" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9077779" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9077779">SPG</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9077779" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9077779" class="dsq-comment-message">If they\'re blasting music you can always call the cops on them for noise violations. After a couple tickets they\'ll move somewhere else.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9061795" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9061795" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9061795">pharmer</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9061795" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9061795" class="dsq-comment-message">isn\'t he just another drug-dealer waving a gun around?<br><br>seriously though, how did he catch those six people?  did they \'freeze\' when he pulled out the heat or did his cameras catch their description/vehicle?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9063339" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9063339" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9063339">Cyndi</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9063339" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9063339" class="dsq-comment-message">Great work Mike!  I\'ve been going  there for years and I love having a family run pharmacy in a  neighborhood full  of Walgreens and Bartells.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9063760" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9063760" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9063760">Ingrid</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9063760" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9063760" class="dsq-comment-message">Where can I buy pepper spray?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9063898" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9063898" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9063898">BallardDINK</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9063898" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9063898" class="dsq-comment-message">Any gun store, and any place that sells shotguns (most sporting-goods, K Marts, and Wal Marts).<br><br>You may also be able to order pepper spray online, but do your research first.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9063958" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9063958" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9063958">BallardDINK</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9063958" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9063958" class="dsq-comment-message">Also, this is a good opportunity to post the link to the "Ballard Gun Discussion" on this blog\'s forum:<br><br><a href="http://www.myballard.com/forum/topic.php?id=668" rel="nofollow">http://www.myballard.com/forum/topic.php?id=668</a><br><br>Lots of good info on safety, responsibilities, research resources, training, and retail locations.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9064227">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9064227" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9064227" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9064227">AlonzoNeighbor</span>\
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	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9064227" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9064227" class="dsq-comment-message">Hmmm...they must have edited out the part where the guy was tryng to rob the place.  Does this mean anyone with a hoodie trying to fill a prescription will get chased out with a gun?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9069871" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9069871" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9069871">kim</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9069871" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9069871" class="dsq-comment-message">i doubt it.  just seems that the way and kind of hoodie could lean someone to caution.  it is what it is folks.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9064450" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9064450" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9064450">chopper_74</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9064450" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9064450" class="dsq-comment-message">Well done Mike, thanks for getting these thugs out of the theft business.<br>Gotta admire your batting average too, .1000!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9065280" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9065280" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9065280">Pink Ciao</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9065280" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9065280" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m glad he wasn\'t hurt, and that the robbers didn\'t get away with it. But I\'ve got to say that that gun scares me away too.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9065538" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9065538" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9065538">TTTCOTTH</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9065538" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9065538" class="dsq-comment-message">What scares you more, a law abiding citizen defending himself and his customers, or a criminal scumbag trying to make a business owner and his customers a victim? I frankly would feel safer inside his place. I would trust the owners judgment and actions more then the criminals. But hey, that\'s just me.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9070916" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9070916" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9070916">Ballard_Sucks_Now</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9070916" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9070916" class="dsq-comment-message">Doesn\'t scare me one bit.  Then again, I don\'t walk into shops with my face hidden.<br><br>Try walking into a bank with your gray hoodie pulled up so your face can\'t be seen...</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9065853">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9065853" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9065853" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9065853">W. Earp</span>\
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	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9065853" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9065853" class="dsq-comment-message">Try to take away a mans livelihood = put your life in their hands.  The poor guy had to do this what five times?  No one should be afraid to shop there.,  just robbers!</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9067161">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9067161" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9067161" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9067161">Mike Donahue for Sherrif</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9067161" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9067161" class="dsq-comment-message">We need to give this man a job at Bergen Park. Who wants to contribute to his first pay check?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9067922">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9067922" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9067922" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9067922">Mike Donahue for Sherrif</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9067922" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9067922" class="dsq-comment-message">By the way business owners.<br><br>I went for a drive at 3 am this morning. Ballard Ave, Leary Way and Market street had at least one pair of prowlers working each street. Unreal to see. It was like they were window shopping, right out in the open.<br><br>Totally empty streets, with transients paired off ,walking up and down the streets, looking at doors, into windows, and ducking behind buildings and into shadows when they saw me coming. Of course, not a single cop anywhere, so they had the run of the place. Like something out of a movie, where everyone is killed by a bio weapon, but a few Mad Max types survive and search for supplies. They could have taken anything they wanted and nobody would have seen or heard them. Not a soul on the streets, aside from meth heads and transients running downtown Ballard streets.<br><br>I only logged on here, because I assumed there would be at least one story about a break in last night.<br><br> Same suspects - Young, very dirty and grimey white males with hooded sweatshirts pulled up over their heads, so you could not see their faces. ages in the early 20\'s - late 30\'s. Meth looking types</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9069278">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9069278" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9069278" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9069278">Mall Cops</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9069278" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9069278" class="dsq-comment-message">It\'s surreal like a Mad Max movie.  Ballard needs a Robo Cop.  Maybe a night in armor that drives a Hummer up and down Market to keep an eye on the zombies who crawl seem to crawl out of holes after midnight.   In all seriousness, it\'s time Ballard\'s business owners invest in their own security officers.  All other major retail shopping centers have them.   U-Village has security officers all over the place.  You don\'t see any BS happening over there.   If we\'re not going to see North Seattle police officers on the beat, I\'d at least feel a better sense of security to see Mall Cops.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9069722" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9069722" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9069722">Ballard_Sucks_Now</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9069722" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9069722" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/ballardsucksnow/RE-ARM_BALLARD.jpg?t=1241642838" rel="nofollow">http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/ballar...</a></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9071436" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071436" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071436">Mike Donahue for Sherrif</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9071436" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071436" class="dsq-comment-message">Ballard Sucks Now -<br><br>Where can I get one of those posters?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9081888" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9081888" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9081888">Ballard_Sucks_Now</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9081888" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9081888" class="dsq-comment-message">MDfS - you can just download that one that I linked to - it should print out just fine.  Photocopy a few, and do what you like with them.  Cheers.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9070256" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9070256" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9070256">BallardDINK</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9070256" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9070256" class="dsq-comment-message">Very evocative description, MDfS! Thanks for that.<br><br>Also, +1 to Mall Cops\' idea of private security. Thanks to all the bars, you\'d really only need him to patrol from midnight to 8 AM. Figure $20/hour, 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, 4 weeks a month... call it $5k/month. If presented properly, I think it\'d be easy to get 5,000 people in Ballard to contribute $1/month if it meant that the neighborhood was patrolled at night. If only there was an easy mechanism to collect that fee. Maybe the Ballard Chamber could investigate? Or just put out a giant tip jar at Seafoodfest? Seems like you could collect all $60k (enough for an entire year) at such an event.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9071640" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071640" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071640">Gunluver</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9071640" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071640" class="dsq-comment-message">I was at Fred Meyers at noon driving down the road on the south side by Albert Lee, and I saw a lady in a log purple coat looking in cars parked on the street.  She tried the door on one car. I called the cops.  This was at Noon!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9071859" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071859" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071859">Mike Donahue for Sherrif</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9071859" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071859" class="dsq-comment-message">Ha ha Gunluver<br><br>I know! It\'s become almost funny at this point. They do what they want, take what they want, attack anyone they want, and there are virtually no police ANYWHERE to stop them. They walk all around with open beers and take drugs, like they are at a huge house party. But, downtown you have teams of cops on everything from bikes to horses, inside cars, undercover,  patrolling Belltown. It\'s become almost funny, but sad too. That is because there are WAY more voters down there for Nikels. Try walking through downtown with an open beer. See how far you get.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9077222">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9077222" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9077222" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9077222">Robert</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9077222" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9077222" class="dsq-comment-message">Gee, no one is out at 3 a.m. except dicey-looking characters?  What a shock!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9081055" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9081055" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9081055">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9081055" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9081055" class="dsq-comment-message">One might go as far as to think you shouldn\'t walk around alone at that time.<br><br>Who knew?!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9081931" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9081931" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9081931">Ballard_Sucks_Now</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9081931" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9081931" class="dsq-comment-message">Right, because, you know, we want our thugs to feel like the neighborhood belongs to them, so they don\'t have to feel threatened or unwelcome while they\'re breaking into someone\'s home or car or business.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9142085">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9142085" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9142085" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9142085">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9142085" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9142085" class="dsq-comment-message">If you want to go out at 3 AM and police Ballard be my guest.<br><br>And to be fair, anyone wearing a hoodie and out at 3AM is going to have a "thug" look to them.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9142215" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9142215" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9142215">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9142215" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9142215" class="dsq-comment-message">And this Mike Donahue for Sheriff guy is pulling a joke on everyone, anyway.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9068239" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9068239" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9068239">kokosmama</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9068239" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9068239" class="dsq-comment-message">Cyndi,<br><br>Bartells is awesome and owned by a local family- THE BARTELLS.  They live in Magnolia.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9069083" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9069083" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9069083">Trix</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9069083" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9069083" class="dsq-comment-message">All true, Kokosmama.  Bartell\'s has a great pharmacy too.  <br>But I think I get her point.  It\'s a big fish vs little fish thing.  The small business owners have a hard enough time staying solvent without the threat of some methed up thug robbing them.<br>I worked for the housekeeping service they used for awhile.  I\'ve seen the house.  Matron Bartell was a nice lady but no little fish. ;-)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9068763" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9068763" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9068763">Liz</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9068763" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9068763" class="dsq-comment-message">Why the hell am I going to Walgreens when this guy is right around the corner?  I\'m using this pharmacy from now on.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9069012" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9069012" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9069012">Stupid Hippie</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9069012" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9069012" class="dsq-comment-message">If he fires his gun, isn\'t he guilty of lead poisoning?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9069516" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9069516" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9069516">Shane Dillon</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9069516" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9069516" class="dsq-comment-message">He should have shot the guy in the Ass!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9070944">Ballard_Sucks_Now</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9070944" class="dsq-comment-message">Agree!!!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9076547">cdpenne</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9076547" class="dsq-comment-message">x2</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9069536">SeaSpider</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9069536" class="dsq-comment-message">Good for him! That said, people should think twice before carrying a sidearm. For starters, the numbers don\'t lie: odds are more likely that the gun will accidentally kill a member of your family than save them. Lots of people die from accidents whether it\'s forgetting the weapon is loaded or accidentally shooting a family member coming home late. There\'s also the risk of someone jumping you from behind and taking your sidearm and using it against you.<br><br>It\'s not just enough that you know how to use a gun - you need to make sure EVERYONE in your house knows how to use it. This includes your children. I grew up in a cop family which meant we had two pistols, a shotgun and a M-16 in the house. I knew how to safely handle these weapons before I even started grade school and I also knew to never play with them. Don\'t assume that because a gun is locked up your kids can\'t get into it. Of course if it is locked up it\'s also going to be pretty useless for self defense! For a gun to defend you it has to be easy to get at it. Problem is that also makes it easy to get at for your kids.<br><br>There\'s also the matter of learning to shoot in a self-defense situation. Shooting on a range and shooting for real are very different situations. Guys who are ace shots on the range can\'t hit the side of a barn in combat. There\'s a reason it takes thousands of rounds of ammo for every enemy soldier killed. A nice way to simulate this is to do what we did in the Army: do 25 push-ups or a 20 yard sprint and then try to shoot. This is also why the biathlon is such a hard sport - shooting while you\'re heart is pounding is EXTREMELY hard to to do, even at close range.<br><br>If you insist on a gun for home defense a shotgun is a much better way to go. You\'re much more likely to hit your target and there\'s much less risk of the bullet going through a wall and accidentally killing someone in the next room or your neighbor. Downside is you can\'t really go walking down the streets of Seattle with a concealed shotgun! <br><br>Pepper spray leaves much to be desired, especially if it\'s windy out. Too great a risk that it will diffuse or blow back in your face. A better solution is the PepperBlaster from Kimber America. This device fires a jet of liquid rather than an aerosol spray. Much more accurate, longer range, more effective and it won\'t blow back in your face.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9070052" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9070052" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9070052">Mike Donahue for Sherrif</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9070052" class="dsq-comment-message">Mall Cop is correct -<br><br>How come every time someone mentions the merchants hire security, there is dead silence from them? They have no problem putting up all sorts of Christmas lights each year at a huge cost and that hay stuff on poles at Thanksgving, but God forbid they hire a security gaurd to walk the business district. Just pitch in and hire a couple Ballard bar doorman who need some extra shifts. Whats so hard to figure out?  You can call 911 til you\'re blue in the face. It\'s a waste of time. If the businesses support the food bank and give handouts to the transients who come in, and let them set up panhandling outside their stores, there is a price to pay so the rest of us don\'t have to deal with the problems the transients create. You wanna have pet transients? Pay for security to police them.<br><br>You attract the transients, now YOU foot the bill to clean up the mess Ballard business owners.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9073476" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9073476" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9073476">SeaSpider</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9073476" class="dsq-comment-message">One other thing to consider: meth heads and transients are not the ones you need to worry about as a retailer. That\'s not where your shrinkage is coming from. <br><br>I worked corporate L/P for a national retailer and of all of our stores it was the ones in the wealthier cities that had higher theft rates, not the ones in dicier \'hoods. Reality the biggest source of shrink for most retailers is their own employees, not the crack heads (that\'s what happens when you pay minimum wage!) If you doubt that look up any of the papers published by Dr. Richard Hollinger who is regarded as the leading authority on the subject. Also keep in mind most shoplifters are not transients or meth heads. Most shoplifters have on them at the time of apprehension the means to pay for the merchandise they\'re stealing. Most are bored teenagers, housewives and people who steal for the thrill of it rather than out of need. Others are part of organized retail theft rings who steal from stores and then sell the merchandise on e-Bay. You certainly do come across your share of homeless and crack head crooks but they\'re not the problem since they\'re pretty easy to spot. It\'s the clean cut, polite person who acts like a good customer that\'s going to take you $10-100k. I personally investigated cases where the crook turned out to be a doctor, lawyer, teacher, grad student, fire fighter, Navy SEAL, carpenter, and TV news anchor. The idea that you can spot a shoplifter by how they dress is simply a myth. <br><br>Retailers cracking down on transients is sort of like when people pass assault gun bans in an effort to reduce gun violence. It\'s a scary looking stereotype that people are afraid of but in actuality it does little to reduce the problem.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9078016" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9078016" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9078016">SPG</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9078016" class="dsq-comment-message">That\'s true from a loss/shrinkage point of view, but when your store\'s neighborhood is considered unsafe or has the appearance of being unsafe from a large meth/crackhead population you will lose customers and their business.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9070828" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9070828" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9070828">Mall Cops</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9070828" class="dsq-comment-message">Just got off the phone with Office Hage of North SPD.  He\'s a member of our Community Police Team.   I found out we can hire off-duty SPD officers.  They work in pairs, so we would have to pay for two.   We would hire them to start out randomly twice per month.  This way, the street doesn\'t know which nights they will be out.  We might be able to set up a mechanism to raise funds through our District Coordinator, Ron Mattson.   I understand Rob is working closely with Ballard\'s Chamber.   This could be a start.   The city just doesn\'t have the funding to provide officers to be down walking or riding bikes on a beat at this time.  This means local business owners must help fund the cause.  Likewise, many individuals are willing to throw a few bucks into the public safety pot.<br><br>Also, note if you witness drug deals going down, please record as much information as you can, and call North SPD\'s Anti-crime Team number, 684-0748.<br><br>We can all make a difference if we stay on top of this.   You should as well consider starting and participating in local citizen patrols, like the one currently operating in Belltown.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9072084" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9072084">SeaSpider</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9072084" class="dsq-comment-message">Did you get a quote on what an off-duty SPD will cost? I used to work for a national retailer and every so often we\'d terminate someone in one of our stores for stealing and they\'d threaten our staff and we\'d have to hire off duty cops just to play it safe. They were very, very expensive - far more than a private security guard. In many areas it was time and a half which often worked out to $40-60/hour. Worth the peace of mind when you have a ex-employee threaten your staff but not something most retailers can afford to do on an on-going basis.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9076892" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9076892">Pay for our own cops?</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9076892" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9076892" class="dsq-comment-message">Go to Belltown. You practically get run over because bike cops are EVERYWHERE. And horseback brigades</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071066" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071066">Ballard_Sucks_Now</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071066" class="dsq-comment-message">I agree 100% MSFS - why the hell aren\'t the businesses doing anything about this?  THEY are the ones who are the primary targets (at least based on what was observed).  And as you point out, they support the things that attract the bums here (food bank, etc.).<br><br>Would it do any good to try and shame them into coming \'round?  Make a list of those local busnesses that are promoting vagrancy, post it on the web, and ask locas to boycott them until they become part of the solution rather than part of the problem?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9071616" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071616" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071616">Mike Donahue for Sherrif</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071616" class="dsq-comment-message">Why can\'t the food bank pitch in for a cop? Or the churches doing these soup kitchens? These transients are only here for them, but they never ever make an effort to help solve the problem. Take the money out of the church weekly collection plate. Same goes for the businesses that feed the food bank. Have an added tax for them, that goes to security. They are using the food bank as a garbage can rather than pay trash pick up costs. All left over food is driven over, because it\'s cheaper than paying for trash pick up.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9073933" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9073933" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9073933">LBB</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9073933" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9073933" class="dsq-comment-message">The food bank has security guards at the food bank.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9075930" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9075930">chopper_74</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9075930" class="dsq-comment-message">Yeah, we wouldn\'t want granny cutting in the line....</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9076087" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9076087">chopper_74</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9076087" class="dsq-comment-message">I attract no transients, I tolerate no transients, panhandling, etc.<br>And I\'ve been FAR FROM SILENT!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071185" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071185">Ernie_98107</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9071185" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071185" class="dsq-comment-message">"I grew up in a cop family which meant we had two pistols, a shotgun and a M-16 in the house. I knew how to safely handle these weapons before I even started grade school and I also knew to never play with them."<br><br>You learned how to safely operate an *M-16* when you were in kindergarten?!<br><br>Bad-ass.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9072152" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9072152" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9072152">SeaSpider</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9072152" class="dsq-comment-message">I didn\'t get to fire it until I was 7 but I did know how to hold it, operate the safety and most importantly learned to never EVER point it at anyone. FWIW, a M-16 is an incredibly easy weapon to fire. Quite accurate and very little recoil - far less than the shotgun, .357 revolver and .38 snubnose he wore for court appearances.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9078235" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9078235" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9078235">iloveseatown</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9078235" class="dsq-comment-message">SeaSpider,<br><br>"more likely that the gun will accidentally kill a member of your family than save them"<br><br>It was from this study and have been completely discredited.<br><br>Arthur L. Kellerman, Protection or Peril?: An Analysis of Firearm-Related Deaths in the Home, 314 New Eng. J. Med. 1557-60 1986.<br><br>Of the 43 deaths reported in this flawed study, 37 (86%) were suicides. Other deaths<br>involved criminal activity between the family members (drug deals gone bad).<br><br>Of the remaining deaths, the deceased family members include felons, drug dealers,<br>violent spouses committing assault, and other criminals.<br><br>If you live with felons, take risks or abuse drugs they are much safer then pools cars or even doctors.<br><br>This being said, if you choose to arm yourself please seek training.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9078274" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9078274" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9078274">iloveseatown</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9078274" class="dsq-comment-message">err<br><br>"If you live with felons, take risks or abuse drugs they are much safer then pools cars or even doctors."<br><br>should have read <br><br>If you live with felons, take risks or abuse drugs they may increase risk but other wise they are much safer then pools cars or even doctors.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9116028" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9116028" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9116028">SeaSpider</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9116028" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9116028" class="dsq-comment-message">Actually I was referencing the CDC stats from 2006 which listed 360 firearm related deaths that were the result of "legal intervention" compared to 642 to "unintentional" deaths. Suicides were the biggest group - 16,883 (4,000+ more than homicides).<br><br>You are right, guns are still VASTLY safer than cars. Always amazes me how many things people will freak out about when it comes to safety but then think nothing about getting behind the wheel of a car! Cars are still the number one killer of children - way ahead of pitbulls, assault rifles, stranger abductions and all the other media fueled paranoias.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9146765" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9146765">iloveseatown</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9146765" class="dsq-comment-message">)ver 90 percent of of defensive uses of guns do not involve firing a shot at the perp, of those I am sure that not all hit  their targets and of that group a tiny number cause death.  <br><br>If you do not kill the perp did it not "save your family"?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9070863" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9070863" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9070863">MT Girl</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9070863" class="dsq-comment-message">Thanks Roy - I grew up in rural Montana and my Dad is an avid gun collector so I have experience with firearms. Dad\'s main gun rules are: Never point a gun at someone unless you mean to shoot them & if you do shoot someone you better make sure they are on your property! <br><br>Having grown up in the country around guns of all types I have this advice to anyone who owns guns and has kids...As with most things, if you make the gun a big scarry no no your kids will want to see it, touch it and shoot it out of curiosity. Be responsible and teach your kids how to safely use them. Take away the mystery and the mystique. It never occured to me to sneak around to see my Dad\'s guns..all I had to do was ask and he would take me shooting. I know this is different because I was not in a city, but education and safety are the top priority when you own a firearm. <br><br>As far as hiring private security and the Ballard Chamber...I work at a retail store in the Ballard area and the Chamber is useless. They only care about Seafood Fest and nothing else. They have no interest in helping with anything. We asked for their assistance in getting the City to fix all the street lights on Market and they said that was not their job and we should call the Mayor...thanks for nothing. <br><br>Most Ballard retail stores are having a tough time right now, so dishing out more $$ for private security is a long shot. If you want merchants to hire private security I recommend that you all start/keep putting your dollars in your local shops. Then maybe we can get some security.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9071122" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071122" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071122">scr3wtape</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071122" class="dsq-comment-message">Dear MT girl,<br>You comment makes no sense.  I thought Chambers of Commerce were membership organizations...I haven\'t been a member of the Ballard Chamber, but have experience elsewhere......The best way to get assistance of the Chamber is to join the Chamber......some how your retail employer is not a member? - he/she should join.  The Seafood Fest is a big event that is for sure, but I doubt that is  their only interest.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9071281" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071281" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071281">Ballard_Sucks_Now</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071281" class="dsq-comment-message">It seems that the Ballard Chamber is universally reviled as useless or worse.  Anyone disagree?<br><br>If they\'re really standing in the way of improving things, why not go around them, and create an alternative?  Call it the Better Ballard Chamber, or the Real Ballard Chamber, or the Ballard Citizens Chamber, or whatever.  If the Better Ballard Chamber can score some success, the other group becomes irrelevant....let them run the damn seafood festival and get the hell out of the way for the other 51 weeks of the year.<br><br>What\'s wrong with this picture?<br><br>And MT Girl, with regard to money being tight now and local shops being reluctant to ponying up some cash for a patrol....money is tight with all of us, and if they think business is down now, just wait until everyone decides the streets are not safe enough to bother shopping locally.  Some folks here have already come to that conclusion, and if the crime wave continues unchecked, many more will, and the shops will eventually suffer a lot more.  It\'s in the shops\' best interest to curb the crime wave.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9075910" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9075910" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9075910">chopper_74</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9075910" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9075910" class="dsq-comment-message">Not a member, I see no benefit to membership, sounds like a country club, at best. They certainly have done nothing about these issues, in fact, silent and ineffective as usual.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9076603" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9076603" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9076603">Trix</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9076603" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9076603" class="dsq-comment-message">Yeah, the Ballard Chamber has proven itself to be worse than useless.  The street lighting here is a total joke.  But they will do nothing.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9072791" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9072791" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9072791">SeaSpider</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9072791" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9072791" class="dsq-comment-message">"As with most things, if you make the gun a big scarry no no your kids will want to see it, touch it and shoot it out of curiosity. "<br><br>YEP!! I think that applies to a lot of things! Parents these days seem hell bent on taking every element of risk out of their kids lives. Kids can\'t ride their bikes to school, can\'t walk to school, have to wear helmets when playing soccer, can\'t climb trees, etc., etc. People forget that children are natural born daredevils and they WILL seek out risk, parents be damned. The more you coddle and protect your kid the more likely they are to do something bad.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9071271">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9071271" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071271" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071271">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9071271" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071271" class="dsq-comment-message">It doesn\'t really look like a robbery in the video.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9071488">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9071488" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071488" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071488">Guest</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9071488" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071488" class="dsq-comment-message">Shame on Bob. I don\'t understand how running out onto the street brandishing a gun is making our community safer. I will *never* give him my business.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9071849">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9071849" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071849" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071849">W. Earp</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9071849" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071849" class="dsq-comment-message">Welcome Troll ..... My_pink_trike</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9071962">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9071962" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071962" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071962">W. Earp</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9071962" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071962" class="dsq-comment-message">And its Mike not Bob.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9071994" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071994" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071994">Guest</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9071994" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071994" class="dsq-comment-message">Ah, it is Mike indeed. I\'m no troll. Just a concerned citizen, like you hopefully.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9072610">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9072610" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9072610" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9072610">Gunluver</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9072610" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9072610" class="dsq-comment-message">"Shame"? The shame is that these POS aren\'t stuffed into a crab pot and left in the Ocean for a day or so.  Your concern should be with the local businesses left to defend themselves with little help from the city.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9076661">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9076661" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9076661" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9076661">Trix</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9076661" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9076661" class="dsq-comment-message">Exactly!  And there won\'t be a lot of local businesses if punks like this have their way.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9077391">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9077391" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9077391" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9077391">Ballard_Sucks_Now</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9077391" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9077391" class="dsq-comment-message">Agreed!</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9071969">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9071969" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9071969" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9071969">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9071969" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9071969" class="dsq-comment-message">It\'s kind of true, though.  What was he going to do, shoot at the guy on a busy street?<br><br>Not saying I won\'t give him business, just saying.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9116789">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9116789" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9116789" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9116789">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9116789" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9116789" class="dsq-comment-message">A citizens arrest is legal, and expected in my book. Provided that you know what the risk is, don\'t fire the weapon unless necessary, etc.<br>If you are afraid, sorry, stay alert, out of the way, and you\'ll be just fine.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9142116">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9142116" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9142116" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9142116">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9142116" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9142116" class="dsq-comment-message">"If you are afraid, sorry, stay alert, out of the way, and you\'ll be just fine."<br><br>What in the hell are you talking about?<br><br>All your posts have this "I\'m noble" quality going for them, like you\'re out there, fighting for the greater good when you\'re just posting on a frickin\' blog.   It\'s sad.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9075804">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9075804" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9075804" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9075804">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9075804" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9075804" class="dsq-comment-message">Alright, a couple of points.<br>How much $$$ was spent on the stripper stings?<br>How much $$$ was spent for the traffic cam on 15th and Market?<br>How much $$$ was spent, and has yet to be spent, researching and implementing the gun ban in city parks? (and the inevitable court cases)<br>They simply DO have the money to provide the level of police protection required, it\'s just NOT their priority. Raise hell!<br>Beat cops aren\'t the only solution, but the most important one at this time.<br>Meanwhile, we have folks like Mike who are doing what they can, and being successful as well.<br>Until it becomes a priority for Seattle to protect Ballard, and neighboring communities, screw em\', and that goes for the Mayor too.<br>I\'m sick and tired of trying to run a business, and doing block watches, reporting, etc., while hearing the business community in general getting blamed.<br>Screw you too!<br>With much love...chopper out.<br>Oh, and yes, that sketchy hooded punk was going to rob the place, clearly.</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9076717">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9076717" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9076717" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9076717">Pay for our own cops?</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9076717" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9076717" class="dsq-comment-message">Ballard just does not have the Nikels voters downtown does. Its all about votes. Thats why the have horseback, cruisers and bike police patrolling every single blog. A numbers game.<br><br>They can\'t spare two bike cops accourding to Officer Haag or a single cruiser? Sure pal, whatever you say. Why don\'t the police tell Belltown to hire their own off duty cops. We dont even get on duty ones, we ARE PAYING FOR with our property taxes.<br><br>Since when is the polices job to tell the citizens to hire cops out of their own pockets, if they don\'t like the crime wave? This sounds like Mexico. Todd was practically beaten to death. But, they tell us to shut up, or hire cops out of our pockets if we want any protection. <br><br>Seriously, its how its done in Mexico City<br><br>They want us to forget, we are paying for police already. Why should we need to bribe them to come to Ballard?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9076822">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9076822" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9076822" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9076822">Pay for our own cops?</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9076822" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9076822" class="dsq-comment-message">We pay more taxes than any neighborhood. But, it\'s so bad we need to put out a collection jar to hire off duty cops? Why don\'t they do what we pay them for on duty? I think it\'s time Ballard became it\'s own town again. Its the only choice.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9077394">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9077394" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9077394" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9077394">Mall Cops</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9077394" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9077394" class="dsq-comment-message">This is a tough reality of our future all across America.  Those who can afford to be protected, will be protected.   Gated communities will continue to thrive as well.   I moved to Seattle from Atlanta over ten years ago when crime was getting bad in our near-the-city neighborhood.  I see a similar trend here, but it\'s happening much faster.  Ballard has a chance to be something special.  It has clearly moved in a new direction, for better or worse.  Now it sits teetering toward a bright future.  The nightclub owner\'s need to step up to the plate, along with the Chamber, and all the big condo associations.   We need the deep pockets to get a security force in place.   Knowing cops are out on the street only a couple of times a month,  is an easy start.  It\'s a small start, but it sends a clear message to criminals that we\'re not east targets.  They\'ll soon find out it\'s time to move on.  <br><br>I pledge $150.00 tonight to start the pot.  If others are interested, I\'ll figure out a way to collect and distribute the money to North SPD.  I\'ve already spoken to them about this.  They pay the off-duty cops through their normal payroll.   You\'ll have to trust me to see that this happens.  We will build momentum.  I\'ll meet with anyone, in person, in public who wishes to donate.<br><br>I\'m not a Buddhist, but I do love a daily meditation book that I read.  I\'ll close with a page I just flipped to.  It\'s a wonderful quote from The 14th Dalai Lama: "When we feel responsible, concerned and committed, we begin to feel deep emotion and great courage."</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9081167">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9081167" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9081167" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9081167">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9081167" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9081167" class="dsq-comment-message">I feel great emotion and courage.<br>I also feel screwed.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9076941">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9076941" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9076941" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9076941">Trix</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9076941" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9076941" class="dsq-comment-message">An election is coming up.  Vote Mayor Knucklehead out.  The three challengers I\'ve heard coming up to bat should be questioned about how they would treat neighborhood security.<br>Donaldson is the only true pro-business one so far but I haven\'t heard much about any of them yet.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9078226">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9078226" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9078226" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9078226">Stupid Hippie</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9078226" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9078226" class="dsq-comment-message">Pro-business? Can we have someone who is pro-the people?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9080677">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9080677" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9080677" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9080677">Trix</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9080677" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9080677" class="dsq-comment-message">No politician is pro-people.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9081178">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9081178" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9081178" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9081178">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9081178" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9081178" class="dsq-comment-message">or, pro business, which, really is people.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9082123">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9082123" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9082123" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9082123">Trix</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9082123" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9082123" class="dsq-comment-message">Too right.  Might be nice to have a mayor who understood you don\'t get one without the other, though.  Right now, if your business isn\'t downtown (or Belltown) you don\'t get protection.  Guess the folks on the cruise ships don\'t get up this far. <br>Better mayor.  More cops.  Too much to ask?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9084924">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9084924" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9084924" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9084924">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9084924" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9084924" class="dsq-comment-message">Thank you Trix. No, it\'s not too much to ask.<br>Since the big push as of late in the CD and Belltown, we, and other neighbors, are receiving the results.<br>Time to get the focus where it belongs. imho.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9081256">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9081256" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9081256" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9081256">kim</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9081256" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9081256" class="dsq-comment-message">been sayin\' this for months now.....i guess someone else is finally seeing the light.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9078197">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9078197" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9078197" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9078197">Stupid Hippie</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9078197" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9078197" class="dsq-comment-message">Couldn\'t Donahue have just talked to the man, listen to his stories and struggles, like the Donahue on tv?<br><br>I moved to Ballard because I thought this  was a compassionate neighborhood, not  the wild west : (</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9081266">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9081266" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9081266" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9081266">kim</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9081266" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9081266" class="dsq-comment-message">you\'re about 6 years too late.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9116682">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9116682" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9116682" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9116682">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9116682" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9116682" class="dsq-comment-message">Ballard is still compassionate, imho.<br>We just aren\'t as dumb...</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9078330">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9078330" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9078330" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9078330">SPG</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9078330" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9078330" class="dsq-comment-message">The bottom line here is that the SPD has the same number of officers today that they did 30 years ago when Seattle was half the size. Seattle also runs a ratio of police to citizens that is about 1/3rd to 1/5th that of most major cities. We clearly just don\'t have the police force to be effective.<br>Think about what running the skeleton PD means, no time to walk a beat if you\'re responding to calls. Spending your whole day responding to calls leaves no time to do follow ups on crimes, get to know the characters in your beat, no time to do visibility/deterrence patrols, and for a lot of these guys the knowledge that there will be little backup close by if something goes wrong.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9080770">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9080770" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9080770" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9080770">Mall Cops</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9080770" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9080770" class="dsq-comment-message">Thanks SPG.   Great feedback and most of us realize this.   You folks do a fine job for what you have to work with.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9081126">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9081126" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9081126" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9081126">Trix</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9081126" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9081126" class="dsq-comment-message">Couldn\'t agree more, SPG.  Simply not enough cops to go around.  And there seems to be no shortage of criminals.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9081295">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9081295" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9081295" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9081295">kim</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9081295" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9081295" class="dsq-comment-message">and if we use photo cop we can get more cops off traffic patrol and onto foot patrol where they should be.  handling the true crime, not the revenue crime.  <br><br>don\'t get started on traffic violations pleeeze!</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9080802">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9080802" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9080802" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-9080802" href="http://ninaforsyth.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ninaf</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9080802" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9080802" class="dsq-comment-message">Do they take Aetna??!</div>\
	 </div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9081038">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9081038" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9081038" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9081038">studio5412</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9081038" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9081038" class="dsq-comment-message">Police officers need to be hired in pairs.  Which brings the cost to $150.00/hour.</div>\
	 </div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9081202">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9081202" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9081202" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9081202">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9081202" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9081202" class="dsq-comment-message">God, this site sure did become a bunch of frightened,  gun toting nut jobs.  It\'s weird and really not the neighborhood I thought I was in.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9081303">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9081303" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9081303" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9081303">kim</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9081303" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9081303" class="dsq-comment-message">it\'s not anymore.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9082518">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9082518" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9082518" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9082518">Mall Cops</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9082518" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9082518" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t see this as fear-mongering.  A chain of crimes are now being documented in one spot.  People are coming out of a fog and are seeing for the first time there\'s more crime happening in Ballard than they thought.   No one is calling for lynch mobs.  All people want are some basic laws enforced.   I prefer to be able to walk into Bergen Place Park and not get aggressively accosted.  When you get accosted, robbed, or attacked, it becomes personal.  You can either fight back or leave.<br><br>If you haven\'t been following, below is a list of major and minor ongoing crimes that have happened in the last two weeks:<br><br>Major events:<br><br>1.  A man got brutally attacked, robbed, and left for dead in Greenwood on a week night.<br>2. The following Friday night there\'s an armed car-jacking.<br>3. The same Friday night there are three muggings on the street.  The assailants claimed to have guns.<br><br>Minor Events:<br><br>1. Numerous cars have been stolen<br>2. Numerous cars have been broken into<br>3. Tagging (graffiti has proliferated)<br>4. Drugs are being used out in the open in Bergen Place Park<br>5.  An area called "The Jungle" had to be cleared because it was a hideout for chronic drug users<br>6. Homes are being broken into<br><br>To keep up with what\'s happening on the local crime scene, also read the Ballard Tribune.  <br><br>The Ballard area is a great place to be.  Seek ways to make a positive contribution in any way you can.  The best contributions are free.  For instance, smile, greet people, say hello to folks you believe are different than you.   Many of us have much at stake here.  We\'re home owners, parents, and business owners.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9082815" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9082815" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9082815">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9082815" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9082815" class="dsq-comment-message">Half of the people on this site spout accusations without any proof whatsoever.  Stick around for a week.  You\'ll see what I mean.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9085119" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9085119" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9085119">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9085119" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9085119" class="dsq-comment-message">So, the other half would have proof right?<br>Which half are you spouting?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9094193" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9094193" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9094193">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9094193" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9094193" class="dsq-comment-message">No the other half aren\'t so quick to blame the homeless or whoever the target is that day.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9093487">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9093487" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9093487" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9093487">Mall Cops</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9093487" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9093487" class="dsq-comment-message">How about going to visit Todd in the hospital for proof?  Or simply read the paper.   The facts are the proof.   No one individual is being accused of anything.  There are many inferences being made based on generalized observations.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9094283">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9094283" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9094283" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9094283">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9094283" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9094283" class="dsq-comment-message">Let\'s face it, Todd wasn\'t even in Ballard when he was attacked.  Not saying that that violence couldn\'t spill over, but he\'s not exactly the best example.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9082526">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9082526" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9082526" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9082526">Ballard_Sucks_Now</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9082526" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9082526" class="dsq-comment-message">Things were great here before you came.<br><br>How\'s the search for that new apartment going?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9082766" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9082766" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9082766">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9082766" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9082766" class="dsq-comment-message">How can you say "things were great here before you came" when you don\'t know me at all? <br><br>Are you an adult?<br><br>Would you like it if your kids (if you have them) knew your internet persona?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9083433">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9083433" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9083433" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9083433">cdpenne</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9083433" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9083433" class="dsq-comment-message">now who\'s the troll?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9101904" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9101904" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9101904">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9101904" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9101904" class="dsq-comment-message">Are you implying that I once referred to you as a "troll."</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9085029" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9085029" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9085029">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9085029" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9085029" class="dsq-comment-message">Weird? Ok, silence. I guess I didn\'t understand the meaning of the word weird.<br>Gun toting? I haven\'t seen it, \'cept on tv.<br>Nut jobs...I\'ve seen and heard from enough of those.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9108347">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9108347" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9108347" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9108347">Sweet Rose</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9108347" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9108347" class="dsq-comment-message">I would say the video is proof of what I suspected.  I saw no robbery attempt.  Now I understand what the posters mean when they say they were accosted or assaulted in Ballard.  They mean they saw someone who looked different than they do.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9116599" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9116599" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9116599">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9116599" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9116599" class="dsq-comment-message">Rose, you didn\'t see that scum-bag looking for the good doctor? The moment he saw the doctor, he was headed for the door, that was before he said or showed anything. Take another look, and leave your bias at the door.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9138971">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9138971" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9138971" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9138971">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9138971" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9138971" class="dsq-comment-message">Maybe he was looking for the doctor because he wasn\'t up front.  Maybe he was headed for the door because he had a large man with a gun chasing after him.  <br><br>He wasn\'t headed for the door before he saw the gun.  Maybe you should watch the video again.  Based on this evidence, I\'d say he pulled the gun out on a guy wearing a hoodie.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9141313">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9141313" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9141313" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9141313">Sweet Rose</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9141313" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9141313" class="dsq-comment-message">The ACLU could have a field day with this one.  If that man could be found I smell serious law suit.  <br><br>That fool John Wayne wanna be is gonna kill someone and lose his business.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9141814">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9141814" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9141814" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9141814">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9141814" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9141814" class="dsq-comment-message">and you\'d be cheering? what a shame...<br>I bet you\'d deny that his actions have actually saved lives, not just in his store, but the thugs, thanks to him, that haven\'t gone on to victimize more folks.<br>How is that packing going, rose?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9142163">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9142163" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9142163" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9142163">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9142163" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9142163" class="dsq-comment-message">No need to be such a dick.  She has a different viewpoint and you want her out of Ballard?  Lame.<br><br>And where, in that post, does she mention, she\'d be cheering?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9142575">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9142575" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9142575" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9142575">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9142575" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9142575" class="dsq-comment-message">She opened the move, by stating she was moving.<br>Any comment about what my point actually was?<br>Or, are we just going to call each other names...</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9143191">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9143191" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9143191" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9143191">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9143191" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9143191" class="dsq-comment-message">You have no proof his actions have saved lives because it\'s impossible to prove.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9157350" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9157350" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9157350">Sweet Rose</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9157350" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9157350" class="dsq-comment-message">Actually chopper I said I was wishing to move but will not unless I can find a good set up like I now have.  In this market that is iffy.   Ballard is a nice neighborhood but, with the exception of college, I have lived here all my life and I grow a little tired of it.    I am not a hater of change and in many ways, and in many areas; Ballard is a nicer place than it was 30 years ago.   I don’t have issue with the condos and miss few if any of the businesses that have closed.    I would miss the ability to walk to work but that’s about it.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9161066">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9161066" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9161066" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9161066">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9161066" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9161066" class="dsq-comment-message">I stand corrected, sorry Rose.<br>Enjoy your stay.<br>Just watch out for<br>\'that fool John Wayne wanna be\'...<br>aka, my good neighbor.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9144576">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9144576" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9144576" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9144576">Sweet Rose</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9144576" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9144576" class="dsq-comment-message">No chop I would be vert sad; that he ruined two lives, his and his victim\'s.    His actions have saved no lives at all.   AND my guess is they have lost him business.  Who wants to go into a place with a loose cannon?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9148037">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9148037" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9148037" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9148037">iloveseatown</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9148037" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9148037" class="dsq-comment-message">He ruined the crooks life how? but not letting him hold up the place?<br><br>Not everyone is so afraid of good law abiding people defending themselves as you, statistic show that citizens are far less likely to hurt innocent bystanders then police with firearms and I don\'t fear going in there at all.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9159910">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9159910" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9159910" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9159910">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9159910" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9159910" class="dsq-comment-message">Can you show me these statistics?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9162446">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9162446" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9162446" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9162446">iloveseatown</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9162446" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9162446" class="dsq-comment-message">11% of police shootings kill an innocent person - about 2% of shootings by citizens kill an<br>innocent person.<br><br><br>Cramer C and Kopel D. "Shall issue: the new wave of concealed handgun permit laws." Golden CO:<br>Independence Institute Issue Paper. October 17, 1994</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9151745" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9151745" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9151745">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9151745" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9151745" class="dsq-comment-message">Sorry Rose,<br>A loose cannon is you...<br>My guess, is that his business has suffered no loss, in fact, as long as he is vigilant, it won\'t.<br>Thanks again Mike.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9168939">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9168939" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9168939" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9168939">Sweet Rose</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9168939" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9168939" class="dsq-comment-message">How exactly am I a loose cannon?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9170519">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9170519" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9170519" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9170519">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9170519" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9170519" class="dsq-comment-message">refer to your previous response to my self-invested statement...<br>No, I don\'t have any desire to be a cop, or to sleep with one...<br>that\'s a loose cannon.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9172439">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9172439" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9172439" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9172439">Sweet Rose</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9172439" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9172439" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t think you understand the meaning of the term.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9173791">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9173791" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9173791" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9173791">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9173791" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9173791" class="dsq-comment-message">yes, I do.<br>g\'night Rose</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9147401">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9147401" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9147401" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9147401">iloveseatown</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9147401" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9147401" class="dsq-comment-message">Did you people not watch the whole video, he hands over a demand not at the start of it.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9160090">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9160090" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9160090" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9160090">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9160090" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9160090" class="dsq-comment-message">You\'re seeing things.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9162480">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9162480" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9162480" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9162480">iloveseatown</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9162480" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9162480" class="dsq-comment-message">It is on that video twice, when he is handing them a pre-written piece of paper, you are just ignoring it to fit your view of reality.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9162749">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9162749" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9162749" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9162749">iloveseatown</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9162749" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9162749" class="dsq-comment-message">you may want to see the eye doctor silence.kit<br><br>On Feb. 19, Douglas walked into the Bob Johnson Pharmacy at 1407 N.W .85th St. in Seattle and presented a note to the pharmacist indicating he had a gun and demanding oxycodone. The pharmacist returned to the counter with a semi-automatic Glock pistol, which he pointed at Douglas. Douglas left the store.<br><br><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/theblotter/2009191655_seattle_man_pleads_guilty_to_p.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/theblotte...</a></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-9168934">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9168934" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9168934" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9168934">Sweet Rose</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9168934" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9168934" class="dsq-comment-message">But that is not the incident in this video.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9173974" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9173974" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9173974">iloveseatown</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9173974" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9173974" class="dsq-comment-message">It is, this story is new, the incident was a while ago.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9195930" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9195930" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9195930">silence.kit</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9195930" class="dsq-comment-message">Exactly, Rose.  I was basing what I said on the video.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9168916" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9168916">Sweet Rose</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9168916" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9168916" class="dsq-comment-message">He did no such thing.  He had a piece of paper which he handed to no one.  Gosh maybe a prescription?  That would be a pre written piece of paper right? Sometimes folks bring those into pharmacies.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9174069" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9174069" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9174069">iloveseatown</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9174069" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9174069" class="dsq-comment-message">you should try reading the linked stories before you play Internet Perry Mason.<br><br>His security camera recorded a hooded man earlier this year walking into the pharmacy on the same day Donohue returned from the police station to identify a suspect from an earlier robbery.  <br><br>it was Douglas and he has already pled guilty.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9195945" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9195945" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9195945">silence.kit</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9195945" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9195945" class="dsq-comment-message">Maybe I\'ll head over with a hoodie on and see if he pulls a gun on me.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9097899" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9097899" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9097899">BallardDINK</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9097899" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9097899" class="dsq-comment-message">Mall Cops, I\'d gladly match your $150 if I was sure the money would be well spent. But giving a lump sum to the North Precinct just sounds like a bad idea. <br><br>Instead, how about you (or Choppper, or Trix, MDFS) run for a position in local government? Whether that\'s leader of the Chamber, or the Council, or whatever, I think it\'d be good to get someone reasonable, concerned, and motivated in a position that already has a formal line in to the police\'s decision makers. <br><br>I\'d do it, but I run my own business and that takes up the majority of my energy.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9102025" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9102025">chopper_74</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9102025" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9102025" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m in the same boat dink, not much time and energy remains.<br>Besides, I\'m pretty damn sure that I\'m allergic to politics. <br>I should hold out for King ;-)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9103342" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9103342" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9103342">Trix</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9103342" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9103342" class="dsq-comment-message">And I go all Gomer Pyle in leadership roles.  Perhaps MDFS or Seaspider?  TTTCOTTH?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9104489" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9104489" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9104489">chopper_74</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9104489" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9104489" class="dsq-comment-message">Sha-zam! ;-) <br>I\'d add SPG to the short list...</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9106113" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9106113">TTTCOTTH</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9106113" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9106113" class="dsq-comment-message">Leadership?<br><br>Hell No<br><br>When my house sells there will be nothing but smoke and two rubber tracks behind me when I leave Seattle.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9111227" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9111227" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9111227">chopper_74</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9111227" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9111227" class="dsq-comment-message">But, we need the sane ones to stick around! Damn.<br>I can\'t blame you, or anyone else that isn\'t hip on getting involved in the political hay, it\'s just broken as hell, and anybody that stood up would soon find the rug pulled from beneath them...<br>I think it should be a group, five or six local folks, so that no-one could be singled out and trampled under the foot of the city council.<br>Just saying, a group would be better than one for that reason alone.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9116962" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9116962" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9116962">Mall Cops</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9116962" class="dsq-comment-message">Where do you start?  Join the chamber?    I agree, it\'s not worth throwing money at the problem.  We all know who the thugs are.  When someone gets seriously hurt or killed by them in Ballard, the city may actually be forced to do something.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9119164" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9119164">chopper_74</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9119164" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9119164" class="dsq-comment-message">like a traffic light, crosswalk, or stop sign. Death has to occur, sometimes more than a few, before the city feels obligated to study the issue. And I do mean study, after a while of that, they may do something...<br>geez, I feel a rash, damn politics.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9119168" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9119168">Mahtli69</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9119168" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9119168" class="dsq-comment-message">I can\'t help but notice that 90% of the comments in this thread are made by the same 5 people who comment repeatedly on EVERY post involving crime. Most of you sound paranoid to me. <br><br>Property crime is probably up because of the soaring unemployment rate (doubled in this area since one year ago). Violent crime is infrequent enough that it makes a spectacular story when it happens. Ballard has always been a little sketchy. It\'s part of the charm. It\'s still the safest neighborhood I\'ve ever lived in.<br><br>Belltown is MUCH worse than Ballard, so that comparison is a laugh.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9126022" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9126022" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9126022">Mall Cops</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9126022" class="dsq-comment-message">This isn\'t anyone being paranoid.  The reason you seem the same people on a thread is because their having a discussion.   Think of it as a virtual meeting room.  We don\'t have each others personal contact info., and it\'s best it stay that way.  If it bothers you, don\'t read it.   I said this before above, wait until you or someone you know is a victim of crime, then it becomes personal.  You fight or flight.  The people on this blog are attempting to fight, yet nothing has really materialized.  However, public officials and public safety officers do follow these threads, so we know we\'re being heard.  The blog is a wonderful way for people to participate in an active democracy.  You have nothing t fear, none of your personal liberties are being infringed on.  If you\'re a thief and or drug user, you do have something to fear.  Our community isn\'t going to allow you to operate in Ballard with immunity.  <br><br>If you don\'t think there\'s an issue, go to Bergen Place Park tonight after 10:00 and stay on the street to 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9149056" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9149056">Mahtli69</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9149056" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9149056" class="dsq-comment-message">It\'s not just this thread, it\'s the same people on EVERY thread. It bothers me, because most of the discussion is based on paranoid nonsense. I read it, because I live in the community and care what goes on.<br><br>A bunch of freaks come out at night? Really? What a shock. You know, we do live in a city.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9152004" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9152004">chopper_74</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9152004" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9152004" class="dsq-comment-message">This is a local thread, so, it will be the same folks most of the time. Sometimes, it\'s pro, sometimes it\'s con, but it\'s always worth the read. imho.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9159104" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9159104" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9159104">Mahtli69</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9159104" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9159104" class="dsq-comment-message">The crime threads draw a particular subset of the community. Other topics have more diversity and not nearly as many posts. This one has the same people preaching the same message to a (small) choir over and over and over again.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9161010" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9161010" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9161010">chopper_74</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9161010" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9161010" class="dsq-comment-message">We are all subsets aren\'t we? And we have our own perspectives, I tend to be a public safety hack, so crime issues are important to me, and I\'m not alone. But, calling anyone or any group a subset, is to minimize their importance in the community. imho.<br>Again, read about the bird, the park, the french place, anything else, if this isn\'t your cup of tea. But, you can\'t help it, can you?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9168754" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9168754" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9168754">Sweet Rose</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9168754" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9168754" class="dsq-comment-message">A public safety hack?  Does that mean cop wannabe?  I had a neighbor once who was a cop groupie.  She slept with pretty much every married cop in Seattle I think.  We would hear the cruisers drive up day and night.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9170532" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9170532">chopper_74</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9170532" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9170532" class="dsq-comment-message">At least your neighbor supported law enforcement...</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9195963" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9195963" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9195963">silence.kit</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9195963" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9195963" class="dsq-comment-message">Kay, that\'s actually pretty funnty.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9186115" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9186115">Mahtli69</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9186115" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9186115" class="dsq-comment-message">If you\'re a public safety hack, I can only assume that you are alarmed by the recent sentiment on this board towards owning guns. Despite occasional sensationalistic news stories like the one about the pharmacist packing heat, statistics show overwhelmingly that guns make a neighborhood more dangerous, not less.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9186294" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9186294" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9186294">iloveseatown</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9186294" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9186294" class="dsq-comment-message">Mahtlai69, I\'m not as paranoid as a lot of the commenters on here but show me these statistics, everything I\'ve seen shows that the prescience of guns actually has no impact on crime either way.<br><br>“There’s no clear relationship between more guns and higher<br>levels of violence.” <br><br>Keith Krause, Project Director, Small Arms Survey project, Graduate Institute of International Studies, Geneva,<br>2007</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9191817" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9191817">Mahtli69</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9191817" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9191817" class="dsq-comment-message">Gun users are far more likely to 1) accidentally shoot someone, 2) have a family member commit suicide by gun, or 3) commit a crime themselves by illegally shooting someone in "self-defense" than they are of successfully and legally preventing a crime by using their gun.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9194684" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9194684">iloveseatown</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9194684" class="dsq-comment-message">Sir what is your source of this miss information?<br><br>1)  In 1993, there were 1,334 drownings and 528 firearm-related accidental deaths from ages<br>0-19. Firearms outnumber pools by a factor of over 30:1. Thus, the risk of drowning in a pool is<br>nearly 100 times higher than from a firearm-related accident for everyone, and nearly 500 times<br>for ages 0-5.<br><br>National Center for Health Statistics, and the National Spa and Pool Institute<br><br>2) Worldwide, the per capita suicide rate is fairly static (the suicide rate of the U.S. is lower than many industrial countries, including many where private gun<br>ownership is banned). A certain fraction of the population will commit suicide regardless of the<br>available tools.<br><br>3) The four year violent crime arrest rate for CCW holders is 128 per 100,000. For the general population, it is 710 per 100,000. In other words, the general public is 5.5 times more likely to commit a violent crime<br>than a CCW licensee.<br><br> “An Analysis Of The Arrest Rate Of Texas Concealed Handgun License Holders As Compared To The Arrest<br>Rate Of The Entire Texas Population”, William E. Sturdevant, PE, September 11, 1999<br><br><br>Of the 2,500,000 annual self-defense cases using guns, more than 7.7% (192,500) are by women defending themselves against sexual abuse.<br><br>When a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3% of rape attacks are completed, compared to 32% when unarmed.<br><br>U.S. Department of Justice, Law Enforcement Assistance Administration, Rape Victimization in 26 American Cities, 1979<br><br>The probability of serious injury from an attack is 2.5 times greater for women offering no resistance than for women resisting with a gun. Men also benefit from using a gun, but the benefits are smaller at 1.4 times more likely to receive a serious injury.<br><br>Department of Justice\'s National Crime Victimization Survey<br><br>Every year, people in the United States use a gun to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times – more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds. 112 Of these instances, 15.6% of the people using a firearm defensively stated that they "almost certainly" saved their lives by doing so.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9195985" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9195985" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9195985">silence.kit</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9195985" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9195985" class="dsq-comment-message">Why is it that people can\'t realize that drowning statistics are irrelevant?<br><br>Comparing a gun to a pool?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9196543" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9196543" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9196543">Mahtli69</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9196543" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9196543" class="dsq-comment-message">Those are some interesting statistics. Some of them are relevant to the discussion about whether we are safer or not safer owning guns. Others, such as how dangerous swimming pools are, or how likely concealed-weapon permit holders are to be arrested for a violent crimes, are not.<br><br>I disagree with you regarding suicides. Suicides often occur when someone who is inclined towards depression has a psychological crisis. In these cases, suicide is usually an impulsive act, so access to a firearm will greatly increase the chance of them going through with it. According to the CDC, firearms accounted for 55% of all suicides in the US. According to the Harvard School of Public Health, the 15 states with the highest number of gun owners had double the suicide rate of the 6 states with the lowest number of gun owners. Population sizes of the states were similar. Globally, there are other cultural factors that make a direct comparison complicated.<br><br>I\'m curious about your DOJ statistics, because they seem extremely incorrect. According to this victimization survey by the <br>DOJ (<a href="http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/hvfsdaft.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/hvfsdaft...</a>), the average annual number of victimizations in which victims used firearms to defend themselves or their property is 82,500. This is significantly less than the 2.5 million per year that you claim (link please).<br><br>The same survey also says that there are an average of 340,700 crimes per year in which firearms are stolen. So, according to the DOJ, a gun is more than 4x as likely to be stolen as it is to be used to thwart a crime.<br><br>Finally, the statistics regarding rape victims are interesting, but ignore the fact that 70% of rape victims know their attacker.  I would expect that firearms are far less likely to be used in cases where the victim knows the attacker, and your statistics are skewed accordingly. Your assault statistics for both men and women are similarly biased. How many of the 2.5x more likely to be seriously injured unarmed women are being assaulted by a loved one?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9197446" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9197446">iloveseatown</span>\
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	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9197446" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9197446" class="dsq-comment-message">The CCW holder crime statistics were provided as a counter to your unsubstantiated claim that because people legally own a gun that they would be more likely to commit a crime with it.  A wild assertion that has no bearing in reality.<br><br>The pool statistics are given to give a comparative risk to an inanimate object.  As humans we are really good at misplacing the actual risk imposed by activities or inanimate objects.  Look at BHO and his fear of the homeless when most of the violent crime is committed by people who may not be high on the economic ladder but tend to have a domicile of their own.  Now before he comes back with stories yes there are bad people in any group, but the majority of people are good.<br><br>There are a lot of dangerous things in life from cars to chainsaws, haven made the effort to learn safe gun handling and by observing the four simple rules of gun safety I have personally mitigated the risk to the point where it is really statistically insignificant.  <br><br>As for the Suicide issue it is complicated, and also note that those states with high rates do tend to have less services and and high risk populations.  Unfortunately there are several ways to effectively end ones life even in the heat of the moment if one makes that tragic decision.<br><br>The DOJ statistics are from cases where there was an arrest or a conviction, something that does not happen with every defensive use.<br><br>"More than 450,000 crimes, including 10,744 murders, are committed with guns each year. But Americans also use guns defensively about 2.5 million times a year, and 98 percent of the time merely brandishing the weapon is sufficient to stop an attack." <br><br>Bogus lawsuits a crime against gun-owning public,  Washington Times Feb. 24, 1999.<br><br>As for the rape victims being attacked by those they know, of course a firearm is not a magic talisman, it is a force multiplier and that is it, a tool that should be your last resort.  I would assume that these statistics do include attacks by people known by the victim.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9210077">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9210077" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9210077" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9210077">Mahtli69</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9210077" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9210077" class="dsq-comment-message">Too narrow ... please scroll down.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9186501">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9186501" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9186501" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9186501">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9186501" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9186501" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'ve seen statistics that point to an overall decrease in violent crime in regions that have the highest percent per capita of ccw permits. The exact opposite of what you believe to be true. Sorry.<br>btw, nobody messes with the Swiss, because everyone is issued a firearm, yes, everyone. Care to take a guess at what their violent crime stats are? Have a nice day.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9191249">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9191249" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9191249" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9191249">Sweet Rose</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9191249" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9191249" class="dsq-comment-message">Better cite those stats.  <br><br>No one messes with the Swiss becasue they hold all the money.  No other reason.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9194803">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9194803" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9194803" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9194803">iloveseatown</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9194803" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9194803" class="dsq-comment-message">After passing their concealed carry law, Florida\'s homicide rate fell from 36% above the national average to 4% below, and remains below the national average (as of the last reporting period, 2005). <br><br>Cramer C and Kopel D. Shall issue: the new wave of concealed handgun permit laws. Golden CO: Independence Institute Issue Paper. October 17, 1994<br><br>In Texas, murder rates fell 50% faster than the national average in the year after their concealed carry law passed. Rape rates fell 93% faster in the first year after enactment, and 500% faster in the second. Assaults fell 250% faster in the second year.<br><br>Bureau of Justice Statistics, online database, reviewing Texas and U.S. violent crime from 1995-2001.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9211278">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9211278" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9211278" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9211278">chopper_74</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9211278" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9211278" class="dsq-comment-message">thank you.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9191898">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9191898" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9191898" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9191898">Mahtli69</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9191898" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9191898" class="dsq-comment-message">Switzerland is 8th in the world in accidental gun deaths per capita. For the most part, they obtain their guns through their military service. For enlisted men, that gun is a rifle, which is much  safer than a handgun and less likely to be used in a crime.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9194902">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9194902" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9194902" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9194902">iloveseatown</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9194902" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9194902" class="dsq-comment-message">after their service, where they actually carry a machine gun around with them during the day they are actually compelled to own either a rifle or a pistol, most are privately owned.  <br><br>Pistols are also the most common firearm to be used in defense situations. In fact 80% of gun defenses, the defender used a concealable handgun.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9196807">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9196807" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9196807" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9196807">Mahtli69</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9196807" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9196807" class="dsq-comment-message">The Swiss generally keep their machine gun after their service is completed. However, the weapon first has the automatic action disabled.<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland#Army_issued_arms" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Sw...</a><br><br>My point is that there are more rifles than handguns in Switzerland. Rifles are inherently safer because 1) they are difficult to conceal and 2) it\'s easier to hit what you aim at. It also isn\'t legal to carry a gun around with you unless you have a specific reason to do so (like a job in security).<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland#Carrying_guns" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Sw...</a><br><br>Switzerland is 3rd in the world with 46 guns per 100 residents. The US is 1st, with 90 guns per 100 residents. What was chopper_74\'s point about violent crime statistics again?</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9197555">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9197555" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9197555" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9197555">iloveseatown</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9197555" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9197555" class="dsq-comment-message">OK the thread drift and small size of the responding box is getting old here so I\'ll let you guys co on but...<br><br>"The major surveys completed in the past 20 years or more provides no evidence of<br>any relationship between the total number of legally held firearms in society and the rate of armed crime. Nor is there a<br>relationship between the severity of controls imposed in various countries or the mass of bureaucracy involved with many control systems with the apparent ease of access to firearms by criminals and terrorists"<br><br>Colin Greenwood, “Minutes of Evidence”, Select Committee on Northern Ireland Affairs, January 29, 2003.<br><br>Pistols are also more practical for self defense and actually our victimization rate is pretty good in this country.  You are for more likely to be a victim of violent crime in England then you are here in the united states.  Most of the violent crime in this country is criminal against criminal due to the silly war on drugs and the rampant amount of organized crime in this country.<br><br>Mahtli69, if you ever want to sit and have coffee and talk about this let me know, I think we could have a productive talk even if it just cements our personal beliefs more.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9210060">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9210060" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9210060" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9210060">Mahtli69</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9210060" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9210060" class="dsq-comment-message">For the record, I am NOT a gun-control advocate. I support the 2nd Amendment, and I think that a more violent society is the price we must pay for this right.<br><br>However, I do not like that the gun industry tells people that guns make us safer. Perhaps in the hands of a person with the right training AND temperament, with the right consideration given towards secure storage, and with some luck, it is true. But, we are human after all, and statistics and common sense show that guns, which are designed to kill, are dangerous.<br><br>In my opinion, the pro-gun lobby spins statistics and cultivates fear far more than their opposition. I agree with you that the US is generally a safe place, and that most gun violence is fed by the insane drug war and consists of criminals killing other criminals. For me personally,  I have a wife and kid in my house, and decided a long time ago that the risks of gun ownership far outweigh any potential benefit. In general, people own guns out of fear, and when I hear of someone I know buying a weapon for protection, my first thought is that they wussed out.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-9210116">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-9210116" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-9210116" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-9210116">Mahtli69</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-9210116" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-9210116" class="dsq-comment-message">Speaking of training and temperament ...<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0</a></div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-10729646">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-10729646" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-10729646" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-10729646" href="http://www.pulseuniform.com/cherokee-scrubs.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Macy</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-10729646" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-10729646" class="dsq-comment-message">Glock 19 handgun under his lab coat will really scare robbers away. Security cameras cannot put a bullet in their body, it\'s the gun. Seriously though, that sign is a work of a genius, whoever thought of the idea.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 </ul>\
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		}
		
		if(noAnonMsg) { noAnonMsg.style.display = 'block'; }
		
		for(var i=0; i<dsqReplyAuth.length; i++) {
			dsqReplyAuth[i].style.display = 'block';
		}
		
		authenticatedNode.style.display='none';
		// Passing null user data to signify logout
		setUser(null);
		
		if(document.getElementById('dsq-login-message')) {
			document.getElementById('dsq-login-message').style.display = 'block';
		}
		
		if(typeof(fbcLogoutCallback) == 'function') {
			fbcLogoutCallback();
		}

		return false;
	 };
	obj.ensureInit = function(callback) {
		// If the controller hasn't already been initted, will wait until it has been before calling
		// callback; otherwise, calls it immediately. Does not attempt to call init.
		if (initted) {
			callback();
		} else {
			onInit.push(callback);
		}
	};
	obj.init = function() {
		// This method should be called after the FB scripts have loaded, FB.init has been called, 
		// and XdComm loaded.
		if (initted) {
			// I think this double init is caused by a bug with FB.ensureInit
			return;
		}
		var frameNode = Dsq.$(Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeId());
		var rpcServerName = createRpcClient(frameNode);
		defaultRpcClient = iframes[rpcServerName][0];
		if (!window.isMashable) {
			FB.XFBML.Host.addElement(new FB.XFBML.LoginButton(loginNode));
		}
		Dsq.Events.addHandler(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED, onCreateReplyIframe);
		if (Dsq.Thread.getActiveCommentId()) {
			// If there's a highlighted comment, we may have just posted, so check the cookie
			// to see if we should post to newsfeed.
			defaultRpcClient.send('queryNewsfeed', null, postToNewsfeed);
		}
		if (window.isMashable) {
			// Right now only Mashable needs this, because only they have a Connect button
			// inside the iframe, and that's the only iframe-> server communication
			var exportedMethods = {
				requireSession : {'method': requireSession}
			};
			rpcServer = new FB.XdComm.XdRpcServer('disqusParentFbcRpcServer', exportedMethods);

		}
		initted = true;
		for (var i=0; i<onInit.length; i++) {
			onInit[i]();
		}
	};

	return obj;
})();

		ExecuteWhen.add(window.fbIsReady,
			function() {
				FB.ensureInit(function () {
					DisqusFbcParentController.init();
					FB.Connect.ifUserConnected(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin);
				});
			});
	


if(typeof(disqus_callback) == 'function') {
	var callback_params = Dsq.Utils.getRequestParams()['dsq_cbp'] || null;

	// We don't care about any errors in third-party code
	try {
		disqus_callback(callback_params);
	} catch (x) {
		if (typeof(console) != 'undefined' && typeof(console.log) == 'function') {
			// But it would be nice to let developers know about them
			console.log(x);
		}
		// pass
	}

	// HACK: We don't know if the callback wraps our container, which may
	// possibly result in a new DOM element.
	Dsq.container = document.getElementById('dsq-content');
}

})();




