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Re: Incredibly detailed look at Internet marketing scams

Bob — Fri, 11 May 2012 20:21:01 -0000

Yes, he was suspended from Twitter, from Youtube, and from BlueHost (his first web host). Why? None of them will stand up to legal threats from scammers with cash for bully attorneys. Ultimately, he found a non-profit free speech server, and you'll find his blog at saltydroid.info

Re: Incredibly detailed look at Internet marketing scams

Bob — Fri, 11 May 2012 20:24:46 -0000

Wrong. He is very specific, and YOU are the one being dismissive by trying to make it a generality. THAT is how the scammers do it: they make everything vague and general ("internet marketing") so people will not question WHAT it is specifically that they are talking about. People like you HELP scammers by enabling that lack of accountability!

Re: Incredibly detailed look at Internet marketing scams

Bob — Fri, 11 May 2012 20:32:18 -0000

Frank Kern is SPINNING it. "Irwin Frank Kern" got in trouble with the FTC a few years back with something called "Instant Internet Empires." Then, he claimed he was super successful selling "dog training ebooks." (Baloney.) From that, he claimed he was an "internet marketing" expert. In other words, all built on b.s. As he says in that video - it's all how you manipulate people into thinking you are "the bomb." He uses his cohorts to generate false social proof to sell outrageously priced infojunk. Like all hustlers, he comes across as charming. That's all he really offers though - charm.

Re: Incredibly detailed look at Internet marketing scams

Bob — Fri, 11 May 2012 20:37:05 -0000

Worse. These guys form cartels to create networks generating fake "social proof" to make it look like they are credible. These manipulative cartels make it difficult for the average person to determine the truth or validity of what these hucksters are selling (which is hot air).

Re: Incredibly detailed look at Internet marketing scams

Bob — Fri, 11 May 2012 21:16:32 -0000

Peter, you troll! I just discovered your boot-licking comment on slickster Frank Kern's facebook wall. You're just one of his sycophants. Apparently he's getting people to shill for him in an attempt to spin the truth exposed here. So typical of these characters. Shame on you!

Re: Incredibly detailed look at Internet marketing scams

Bob — Fri, 11 May 2012 23:47:08 -0000

And you're trying to downplay it why?

Re: The Verge’s “Scamworld” Profiles “Internet Marketing” Schemes You Should Avoid

Bob — Wed, 23 May 2012 18:44:07 -0000

Danny: Not so quick! This is where it pays to read Salty Droid.

"Traffic Geyser" is operated by Mike Koenigs, who hawks plenty of "make big money fast" offers, with names like "Main Street Marketing Machines" and "Instant Customer Revolution."

Example (from "instantcustomerrevolution"): "Become a Highly-Paid Small Business Marketing Consultant...How one customer lost his job, moved his entire family, started his online marketing business and closed his first $5,000 client in only FIVE DAYS - with no list!"

He's the king of tiny, gray, footnoted fine print: "None of these case studies in any way represent the "average" or "typical" CCM, IC and MSMM member experience."

Koenigs even has his own CATEGORY on Salty Droid:

http://saltydroid.info/cate...

And the syndicate mentioned in the Verge article? Koenigs is a member.

Re: The Verge’s “Scamworld” Profiles “Internet Marketing” Schemes You Should Avoid

Bob — Wed, 30 May 2012 23:32:37 -0000

What a long, self-serving, and dismissive diatribe, Mr. "BlogWorld CEO."

In lieu of using your name, do you feel throwing around that title wields magical power, like some "status wand?" Or, are you concerned that by using your regular, unknown name, people might be more inclined to evaluate and question what you actually say? Feel free to answer, "both."

Interesting little "franchise" you've had going there for the past few years.

Salty Droid highlighted a significant number of what he asserts are essentially "negative associations" to BlogWorld. You probably should assume that he is NOT remotely alone in that thinking, and that it may come up again in a much more amplified fashion. Perhaps along the lines of say, "60 Minutes" or "Dateline."

Feel free to spin that around and let us know what you can come up with. Maybe it will even appear to make more sense than the laborious diatribe you just spewed above.

You could also dispense with the obvious p.r. and exhibit some guts. Go respond by commenting on the Salty Droid blog, and stand up for what you supposedly believe in. Danny did. Or you could have an email exchange with Salty Droid. Danny did that, too. That's how having a backbone works.

Even better: let Danny go ahead and separate himself from the chaff with a more appropriate descriptive title. Then, you can continue catering to your little cadre of "internet marketers." Unless operating alone in that so-called "specialty" worries you.

Re: The Verge’s “Scamworld” Profiles “Internet Marketing” Schemes You Should Avoid

Bob — Thu, 31 May 2012 00:01:15 -0000

Mr. BlogWorld CEO said: "You and I agree Jonah."

No, Jonah does NOT agree with you, and he made some excellent comments. The manipulative wordplay in your responses doesn't change that.

You followed up by cherry picking and selectively throwing out names of conventional corporate businesses in an effort to give yourself credibility. That's posturing, and people are not the fools you may think they are!

If you you have a legitimate response, then go over to the Salty Droid blog and respond now at the SOURCE. If you are unwilling to do so, that will speak volumes about your intentions.

http://saltydroid.info/blog...

Re: The Verge’s “Scamworld” Profiles “Internet Marketing” Schemes You Should Avoid

Bob — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 02:50:18 -0000

Mr. BlogWorld CEO: Mind if I just refer to you as "Smug?" If that nickname doesn't grab you, how about "EgoZilla?" I can suggest a few more options if you'd like.

You say you "don't want to hijack Danny's post?" You already did - massively. Unbelievable! You wrote a long winded, self-serving POST beneath Danny's own post. How utterly ridiculous!

Why are you so AFRAID to address this issue at the SOURCE, on the Salty Droid blog, Mr. BlogWorld CEO? Here you go, Smug:

http://saltydroid.info/blog...

It would be great to see CNN, FOX, and CBS cover you "again," but in a critical new light.

Re: The Verge’s “Scamworld” Profiles “Internet Marketing” Schemes You Should Avoid

Bob — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:10:08 -0000

"We are not enabling any scammers."

If you say that 3 times while tapping your ruby slippers together, do you think that makes it true?

"However there are at least half a dozen people (maybe more) condemned as
scammers on Salty's site that are widely regarded as the most well
liked, respected, and trusted bloggers in the world."

Why? Because people like you have helped provide a cloak of pseudo-credibility? And "they" meaning people who positioned themselves as experts prior to actually having had any expertise? "They" only have visibility today because they were early entrants, and/or rode the echo chamber described in the Verge article. Of course, that's NOT what they sell their "customers" though. They sell their "customers" an entirely different crock, because it's all about getting into people's wallets. They know latecomers can't BUY early entrance and a ringside seat into the cartel-style customer manipulation that enabled them, so they sell their "customers" some other manufactured horseshit. But you know that, don't you?

"Yet you believe one bat shit crazy guy..."

"Bat shit crazy?" You certainly are pompous. You also have an agenda. More and more people are starting to see the bullshit and recognize those who faciliate it. People are in fact more inclined to believe a well-educated, well-reasoned attorney who makes far more sense than you ever could - and that is the Salty Droid. He is genuinely fighting against scammers and his actions show it, as opposed to someone simply saying that for self-serving p.r. purposes.

Unlike your target sheep, there are people out there willing to do some research of their own. That's why I believe Salty Droid 100%. You, on the other hand, are only here in a vain effort to defend your little franchise.

"Ask yourself who is the person talking crazy here?"

Here's your definitive answer: It is NOT Jonah, "Mr. BlogWorld CEO."

Re: The Verge’s “Scamworld” Profiles “Internet Marketing” Schemes You Should Avoid

Bob — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:58:08 -0000

HYPOCRISY!

So Blogworld EGO, exactly how did Salty Droid go from being a desirable KEYNOTE speaker for blogworld, to suddenly being a "batshit crazy guy" in 10 days?

Blogworld contacted him about doing a keynote, and he then posted that email exchange, indicating that he believed Blogworld was enabling scammers.

Now, suddenly, he is "batshit crazy guy" and you are claiming, "at least half a dozen" people, as well as "numerous people" on his blog are wrongly accused of being scammers.

Did he make all of those supposed wrong accusations in the 10 days between his publishing Blogworld's emails to him, and your subsequent retaliatory comments here? If so, WHO exactly did he accuse that you disagree with? There doesn't appear to be enough new material published on his blog during that brief window to support that possibility.

Or, are you referring to the numerous, long-time posts already on his open, public blog at the very same time Blogworld was contacting him about doing a KEYNOTE? If so, that would indicate extreme sloppiness on Blogworld's part, which could also support Salty Droid's position about your selectiveness!

Either way, you do NOT look good here, Blogworld EGO.

Re: The Verge’s “Scamworld” Profiles “Internet Marketing” Schemes You Should Avoid

Bob — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:03:22 -0000

When did Salty Droid become an "anonymous coward?" Was it BEFORE or AFTER Blogworld initiated the dialog with him about doing a keynote speech?

If before, what does that say about Blogworld?

If after, what changed?

Consider those YOUR clues, shill.

Re: The Verge’s “Scamworld” Profiles “Internet Marketing” Schemes You Should Avoid

Bob — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:18:26 -0000

Blogworld contacted Salty Droid about giving a keynote speech about scammers.

Salty Droid published that email exchange, and indicated that Blogworld was part of that problem.

Suddenly, Blogworld's CEO retaliates by attacking Salty Droid, citing as supposed "evidence" his previous editorials that motivated them to contact him about doing a keynote in the first place!

Even someone with zero sense of smell could smell that bulls**t!