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Re: Coming sooon: The Bluetooth Watch. (Scripting News)

dave — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:19:15 -0000

Those are all interesting ideas

Re: The mother of all business models. (Scripting News)

dave — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:48:59 -0000

I like

Re: The mother of all business models. (Scripting News)

dave — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:17:14 -0000

There are millions of celebrities these days, they call themselves "social
media experts."

Re: Coming sooon: The Bluetooth Watch. (Scripting News)

dave — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:59:44 -0000

You need to say it THREE times?

Re: Coming sooon: The Bluetooth Watch. (Scripting News)

dave — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:35:21 -0000

Gotcha. And I said that was uncreative and closed-minded, but encouraged you
not to feel bad because all generations are filled with people with such
limits.

Re: What's wrong with this picture? (Scripting News)

dave — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:20:45 -0000

Bing!

Re: Coming sooon: The Bluetooth Watch. (Scripting News)

dave — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:19:30 -0000

Well every generation is filled with uncreative people with closed minds who
think their way is the only way. My generation has a fair number of them
too.

I was driven yesterday by a NY cabbie who was probably in his twenties who
said people my age don't understand technology. See what I mean! I probably
had more technology in my pocket than he has in his whole friggin
house.(Though not on my wrist, see above.)

It's funny how it's okay to say people are stupid because they're older than
you but you can't say someone is stupid because they're out driving a cab on
the coldest night of the year and are so clueless as to insult the guy who's
deciding at that exact moment how much to tip him.

Re: The mother of all business models. (Scripting News)

dave — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:54:44 -0000

I'm wondering if Amazon is already doing this

Re: OAuth is becoming a cautionary tale. (Scripting News)

dave — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:11:26 -0000

First, welcome to my humble weblog.

Your howto's were instrumental in getting my implementation of OAuth up and
running in 2009.

It would have helped to have a validator app that covered all the basic
functionality, but Joseph Smarr did that for me.

Now, I think my essay *is* an accurate representation, from the point of
view of an implementor who is not an OAuth insider. That perspective is
important too, although if you read the comments, you'll see that I agree
with you that it was a mistake to call the new thread OAuth. Hopefully the
people responsible for this will realize they made a mistake and will
rectify it before there's too much more confusion.

The same thing came up with RSS, believe it or not. The spec for RSS 2.0
said very clearly that new formats must take new names, and the IETF
respected that when they did Atom. Even so I argued that they should start
the Atom work with RSS 2.0, but they did a whole new thing, renaming every
element. Sounds like the same process is happening with OAuth.

It seems that when a format or protocol freezes, it should say so
specifically and in the Roadmap, in the spec it should lay down the
groundrules for future formats. If you do that, it seems people will respect
it.

That said, I think OAuth 1.0 will keep going. That's why after writing this
narrative yesterday I realized I should maintain my implementation. I made a
few changes and once again it interops with Twitter.

PS: Here's what the RSS 2.0 Roadmap says: "RSS is by no means a perfect format, but it is very popular and widely supported. Having a settled spec is something RSS has needed for a long time. The purpose of this work is to help it become a unchanging thing, to foster growth in the market that is developing around it, and to clear the path for innovation in new syndication formats. Therefore, the RSS spec is, for all practical purposes, frozen at version 2.0.1. We anticipate possible 2.0.2 or 2.0.3 versions, etc. only for the purpose of clarifying the specification, not for adding new features to the format. Subsequent work should happen in modules, using namespaces, and in completely new syndication formats, with new names."

Re: OAuth is becoming a cautionary tale. (Scripting News)

dave — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:10:58 -0000

I'd be willing to bet that Blaine is right, and that the IETF will spend a few years on mail lists and in the meantime the OAuth that we all implemented last year will turn out to be the standard.

Either that or Basic Authentication will continue to rule the twittosphere.

Re: OAuth is becoming a cautionary tale. (Scripting News)

dave — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:59:44 -0000

Actually what developers hear is "Wait -- they're ripping up the pavement. Don't deploy."

Re: OAuth is becoming a cautionary tale. (Scripting News)

dave — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:57:58 -0000

Interesting -- since I only follow OAuth peripherally, I have no idea how to
parse all this.

If the IETF isn't just ratifying and documenting the existing OAuth protocol
they shouldn't call it OAuth.

Imho of course.

Re: OAuth is becoming a cautionary tale. (Scripting News)

dave — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:46:50 -0000

Totally agree. They should call it something else.

Re: OAuth is becoming a cautionary tale. (Scripting News)

dave — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:46:10 -0000

Blaine. that's exactly the conclusion I came to shortly after writing this
piece. I fixed the bugs in my implementation of OAuth.

http://frontiernews.org/2010/01/01/updated-oaut...

Let's just use it as-is, and if someone wants to make something new and use
the OAuth name, well that's not very nice, but in the meantime we can keep
deploying.

Dave

Re: Indiana Holmes. (Scripting News)

dave — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:44:49 -0000

I was ready for something more cerebral. I mean Sherlock Holmes is about
fucking with your mind, not punching people in the kidneys and giant spools
of stuff rolling into the Thames (and a damsel in distress on a meat hook
for crying out loud).

Re: OAuth is becoming a cautionary tale. (Scripting News)

dave — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:37:17 -0000

I'm sure it does, but it's not open source, so I can't bundle it.

Re: Coming sooon: The Bluetooth Watch. (Scripting News)

dave — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:52:04 -0000

Yes but if your watch was on the net it'd be cooooooool

Re: New core Frontier feature: S3 Prefs. (Scripting News)

dave — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:20:27 -0000

You must be very young. I say that as someone who is the caretaker, today,
of the data two relatives who have passed on. This problem is here now, for
me, not someday in the distant future.

Re: Coming soon: A Twitter camera. (Scripting News)

dave — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:07:17 -0000

The key thing is the UI for selecting which pictures to upload. That's why I
explained it the way I did. Uploading only happens on a user action. And to
make it simple, it has to be part of the camera, not an add-on like Eye-Fi.

Re: Person of the Decade?! (Scripting News)

dave — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:07:17 -0000

Old is such a crude word. Could we find another way of expressing respect,
perhaps.

You don't learn patience or subtlety until you have a few years on you.
That's why young people aren't so good at seduction, and something like
podcasting is totally a seduction. The technology isn't that hard.

Re: New core Frontier feature: S3 Prefs. (Scripting News)

dave — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:07:13 -0000

For permanence though you want to get it the content somewhere like S3 which
is probably going to be the last Internet site to fail.

Re: It works! (Scripting News)

dave — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:36:55 -0000

It totally works without Twitter.

Re: Marrying RSS and Twitter. (Scripting News)

dave — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:41:49 -0000

Actually Tumblr doesn't do rssCloud, yet. :-)

I have hopes that they will...

Re: It works! (Scripting News)

dave — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:27:11 -0000

Was wondering if anyone would notice. :-)

I'll tell you another thing -- it's going to have an easy UI for linking and
it won't need no stinkin URL shortener.

Probably not much of a surprise, eh?

Re: Anil Dash, tear down that wall. (Scripting News)

dave — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:31:46 -0000

"Anil Dash who is trying to build a career bridging the tech world and
government cannot afford to appear to be in the pocket of a single tech
company, yet that is exactly how it appears."