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Re: Is Smoke Free Indy Playing with Fire?

generalsn — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:37:04 -0000

They're already in your home in some places. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1M9ENyWXIA

Re: Is Smoke Free Indy Playing with Fire?

generalsn — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:31:37 -0000

For those who say "it can't happen here", you must realize that a well funded "war on smokers" is underway. Here's where it started:

http://www.rwjf.org/pr/product.jsp?ia=143&id=14912

And what the 99 million dollars was going to. Note on page seven the "inside -out", provision going for patios later, AFTER business owners spend thousands of dollars to build them to accommodate their smoking customers, clearly showing that the tobacco control activists have ABSOLUTLY NO CONCERN about local issues or businesses. You may need to CTRL and scoll to enlarge it.

http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/CIA_Fundamentals.pdf

Here's the "model ban" from page eight that many communities copied, printed, and passed. It's the "smoking ban for dummies" It only takes a few minutes to fill in the blanks naming your community, the administrators names, and blanks to customize it to your community. As you can see. compromises are absolutly not acceptable.

http://www.no-smoke.org/document.php?id=229

Re: Ped Mall businesses want smoking ban - The Daily Iowan

generalsn — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:50:58 -0000

Oops, "it"

Re: Ped Mall businesses want smoking ban - The Daily Iowan

generalsn — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:50:22 -0000

Is the mall government property? If not, why not just have the owners make a "no smoking" policy. They can hire extra security to enfore it. I seems like they just want free enforcement from the taxpayers.

Re: A Tale of Two Maherns

generalsn — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:14:43 -0000

Just a reminder of the sources of the bans, the RWJ Foundation, owned by big pharma, and the coalitions, more concerned with "social change" than the bans themselves:

http://www.rwjf.org/pr/product.jsp?ia=143&id=14912

And what the 99 million dollars was going to. Note on page seven the "inside -out", provision going for patios later, AFTER business owners spend thousands of dollars to build them to accommodate their smoking customers, clearly showing that the tobacco control activists have ABSOLUTLY NO CONCERN about local issues or businesses. You may need to CTRL and scoll to enlarge it.

http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/CIA_Fundamentals.pdf

Here's the "model ban" from page eight that many communities copied, printed, and passed. It's the "smoking ban for dummies" It only takes a few minutes to fill in the blanks naming your community, the administrators names, and blanks to customize it to your community.

http://www.no-smoke.org/document.php?id=229

Re: Abstain On Your Record

generalsn — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:27:03 -0000

Re: Where There’s Smoke

generalsn — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:26:23 -0000

45 more employees of Illinois casinos can now enjoy all the smoke free air they want since they got laid off. The Indian casino close to the Indiana state line has a huge area for expansion, enough to build separate buildings if needed. They probably see this coming. They'll probably join the lobbying effort for a smoke free Indiana, just like Illinois politicians asked Wisconsin to ban smoking to keep Illinois residents from going to their bars.

Re: Where There’s Smoke

generalsn — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:14:01 -0000

Just a reminder of the sources of the bans, RWJ Foundation, owned by big pharma, and the coalitions, more concerned with "social change" than the bans themselves:

http://www.rwjf.org/pr/product.jsp?ia=143&id=14912

And what the 99 million dollars was going to. Note on page seven the "inside -out", provision going for patios later, AFTER business owners spend thousands of dollars to build them to accommodate their smoking customers, clearly showing that the tobacco control activists have ABSOLUTLY NO CONCERN about local issues or businesses.

http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/CIA_Fundamentals.pdf

Here's the "model ban" from page eight that many communities copied, printed, and passed. It's the "smoking ban for dummies" It only takes a few minutes to fill in the blanks naming your community, the administrators names, and blanks to customize it to your community according to the width of your sidewalks.

http://www.no-smoke.org/document.php?id=229

Re: Where There’s Smoke

generalsn — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:12:22 -0000

The last page of the textbook the ban lobbyists use instructs them to return every year until all exemptions are gone if allowing exemptions is the only way to get any bans passed. Allowing them to attend local meetings is the biggest mistake any town can make. Once they find gullible lawmakers, they will always be returning. They don't care how much businesses paid for renovations. Like the old snake oil salesmen they travel the nation pushing their bans. they have ABSOLUTLY NO CONCERN about local issues or businesses. Here's the book that the tax exempt political action committees (charities) are using. read the last page. They be back, no matter how many years it takes.

http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/CIA_Fundamentals.pdf

Re: Budget; Bang or Bi-Partisanship?

generalsn — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:12:27 -0000

Just a reminder of the sources of smoking bans, RWJ Foundation, owned by big pharma, and the coalitions, more concerned with "social change" than the bans themselves:

http://www.rwjf.org/pr/product.jsp?ia=143&id=14912

And what the 99 million dollars was going to. Note on page seven the "inside -out", provision going for patios later, AFTER business owners spend thousands of dollars to build them to accommodate their smoking customers, clearly showing that the tobacco control activists have ABSOLUTLY NO CONCERN about local issues or businesses.

http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/CIA_Fundamentals.pdf

Here's the "model ban" from page eight that many communities copied, printed, and passed. It's the "smoking ban for dummies" It only takes a few minutes to fill in the blanks naming your community, the administrators names, and blanks to customize it to your community according to the width of your sidewalks.

http://www.no-smoke.org/document.php?id=229

Re: Car Rental Fleets Going Completely Smoke-Free

generalsn — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:27:17 -0000

If I sit in traffic next to a roofers truck, I get charged $250.00? No thanks.

Re: Detroit Slow to Implement Smoking Ban

generalsn — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:27:19 -0000

Just a reminder of the sources of the bans, more concerned with "social change" than the bans themselves:

http://www.rwjf.org/pr/product.jsp?ia=143&id=14912

And what the 99 million dollars was going to. Note on page seven the "inside -out", provision going for patios later, AFTER business owners spend thousands of dollars to accommodate their smoking customers, clearly showing that they have ABSOLUTLY NO CONCERN about local issues or businesses.

http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/CIA_Fundamentals.pdf

Here's the "model ban" from page eight that many communities copied, pasted, and passed. It's the "smoking ban for dummies" It only takes a few minutes to fill in the blanks naming your community, the administrators names, and blanks to customize it to your community according to the width of your sidewalks, so it looks like local leaders worked tirelessly for extended time to originate it.

http://www.no-smoke.org/document.php?id=229

Re: Detroit Slow to Implement Smoking Ban

generalsn — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:36:13 -0000

Publishing them on the internet shoud be GREAT advertising. I'm totally missing the point of this publication.

Re: New bill would let local governments ban smoking

generalsn — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:33:06 -0000

Here's a popular ban that has been used by many communities. No need to waste a lot of time. "Smoking Ban for Dummies"
Just click "print" then fill in the blanks naming your community and administrators names, and pass it. Bingo, an instant law. You don't even need to read all the legal mumbo jumbo. Simple, even for the most mentally challenged. This model ban can be customized to your location depending on how wide your local sidewalks are.

http://www.no-smoke.org/document.php?id=229

It's on page eight of the tobacco control handbook:

http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/CIA_Fundamentals.pdf

Re: Military Smoking Ban

generalsn — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:14:05 -0000

This controvesry may have chased away more potential recruits than ever before. Everyone knows these ban fanatics will NEVER go away and that this will keep coming up again and again.

Re: Petitions signatures against smoking ban tell another story

generalsn — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:56:25 -0000

Don''t think that just passing a ban will get rid of those arrogant lobbyists. Once they find gullible lawmakers, they'll be back for the patios later, AFTER business owners spend thousands of dollars to build them for their smoking patrons.. This is a quote from page seven of the ban lobbyists instruction book.

"Tobacco control advocates should work 'from the inside out.'
Prior to addressing
outdoor restrictions, communities should first have effective smokefree laws for indoor
environments. Because people are exposed to higher levels of secondhand smoke in
indoor settings than in outdoor ones, it makes sense from a public health perspective to
protect nonsmokers indoors before seeking outdoor air laws.
There is emerging science on the health hazards of outdoor exposure to secondhand smoke,"

Here's the whole instruction book. If they had ANY consideration for local businesses, they would do the patio ban upfront. These traveling lobbyists have ABSOLUTLY NO concern about local business owners

http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/CIA_Fundamentals.pdf

Re: Chicago Parks Banning Smoking One by One

generalsn — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:56:19 -0000

Since these bans are all about health, they should be required to put a Chantix and Zyban warning disclaimer on all of the government issued “No smoking” signs to prevent suicides and lawsuits by forcefully coercing residents into using a dangerous product.

www.marketwatch.com/story/fda-orders-harsher-wa...

Re: Opponents to smoke ban are only delaying a smoke-free South Dakota

generalsn — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:39:21 -0000

Since these bans are all about health, they should be required to put the Chantix and Zyban warning on all of the government issued “No smoking” signs to prevent suicides and lawsuits by forcefully coercing residents into using a dangerous product.

www.marketwatch.com/story/fda-orders-harsher-wa...

Re: Council Considers Smoking Ban At Park - Detroit Local News Story - WDIV Detroit

generalsn — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:03:09 -0000

If a statewide ban is passed, kids will be getting more smoke than ever before at home when parents can't smoke with their adult friends at a local bar.

Re: Council Considers Smoking Ban At Park - Detroit Local News Story - WDIV Detroit

generalsn — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:59:43 -0000

California already has bans in your own home in some areas. It's just a matter of time.

Re: A year after ban, thoughts on smoking - The Daily Iowan

generalsn — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:37:59 -0000

Actully, going to the small neighborhood bars that ignore the ban is entertaining in itself.

Re: Opponents to smoke ban are only delaying a smoke-free South Dakota

generalsn — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:43:50 -0000

Be careful of the wording on the ballot. They lied to the voters of Ohio by promising reasonable exemptions, only to have them removed when it was passed. After three years, the voters of Ohio are STILL trying to amend their ban as it was stated on the ballot. Notice that page eight of their instructions forbid ballot measures.

www.no-smoke.org/pdf/CIA_Fundamentals.pdf

Re: Opponents to smoke ban are only delaying a smoke-free South Dakota

generalsn — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:28:13 -0000

These smoking bans will probably go down in history as one of the greatest marketing scams ever by using tax exempt political action committees calling themselves "charities". They want to "hurry up and pass the bans" before people find out who is paying the lobbyists pushing for them by using our tax money.
Here's the beginning of the ban movement in the USA.

www.rwjf.org/pr/product.jsp?ia=143&id=14912

Here are the instructions from Johnson and Johnsons' (makers of cessation products) RWJ Foundation for their tax exempt political action committees. They are getting enough money from the RWJ Foundation, plus using MY tax money. They aren't getting any more money from me.

www.no-smoke.org/pdf/CIA_Fundamentals.pdf

Re: Solana Beach to ponder ban on patio smoking

generalsn — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:21:35 -0000

Many businesses built their patios, which in some areas are only used a few months of the year, after the bans were passed to keep their smoking customers returning.

Re: Solana Beach to ponder ban on patio smoking

generalsn — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:13:41 -0000

Will the businesses that spent thousands of dollars to accomodate their smoking customers be reimbursed for their wasted money? These nannies sure like to see businesses struggle to survive.. It's not THEIR money. Why should they give a *&%#