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2 months ago
in Church, Family, and Choice on kyleandkelly.com
Unfortunately, yes. We do have more choices about our churches than we do about our families.
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Kyle Adams
I would challenge that as a cultural/societal notion, one that isn't necessarily based in Scripture. Can you find support for this idea in the Bible or ecclesiology?
8 months ago
in The Homophobia Has to Stop on YBPGuide
Here are a couple of reasons...
1.) Though many children are raised in a single parent home, we would all probably agree that the best environment for a child would be to have both a mother and a father - I know that I wish I would have. Don't future children deserve it too?
2.) There will be an attack on institutions today that have the ability to operate in a discretionary manner. Many of these institutions rely on the tax exemption status, which will be denied if they do not uphold the state law. For example:
Catholic Adoption Agency in Massachutes
Methodist Church and Gay Marriage Lawsuit Battle
...these are from states that recognize a same sex marriage.
These are just a couple that I can think of.
1.) Though many children are raised in a single parent home, we would all probably agree that the best environment for a child would be to have both a mother and a father - I know that I wish I would have. Don't future children deserve it too?
2.) There will be an attack on institutions today that have the ability to operate in a discretionary manner. Many of these institutions rely on the tax exemption status, which will be denied if they do not uphold the state law. For example:
Catholic Adoption Agency in Massachutes
Methodist Church and Gay Marriage Lawsuit Battle
...these are from states that recognize a same sex marriage.
These are just a couple that I can think of.
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MR.Rex
This is nothing but an attack on the Christian faith and its church. To the gays, the church is the biggest obstacle to acceptance in society. They have come to realize that their lifestyle will never be accepted by the church, so instead, they are determined to destroy the sacred institutions within the church.
What I found even more irksome is that gays are an extreme minority in this country, maybe 3-5 % of the population, where has all of this influence come from? There should be a time when the wishes of the majority out paces the "needs" of the minority. We should not be redifining an institution that is thousands of years old to satisfy a few thousand couples that want to marry.
I am very happy about the results of prop 8. Based on the outcome, the only way it can be overturned is if the US Supreme court decides to define gays as a protected class, which would change the legal landscape of this country. With so many confused people walking around being gay on tuesday and Straight on Friday, I am confident that homosexuals will not get be classified in the same league as women, racial groups or the disabled--all things that don't change.
What I found even more irksome is that gays are an extreme minority in this country, maybe 3-5 % of the population, where has all of this influence come from? There should be a time when the wishes of the majority out paces the "needs" of the minority. We should not be redifining an institution that is thousands of years old to satisfy a few thousand couples that want to marry.
I am very happy about the results of prop 8. Based on the outcome, the only way it can be overturned is if the US Supreme court decides to define gays as a protected class, which would change the legal landscape of this country. With so many confused people walking around being gay on tuesday and Straight on Friday, I am confident that homosexuals will not get be classified in the same league as women, racial groups or the disabled--all things that don't change.
8 months ago
in The Homophobia Has to Stop on YBPGuide
This is going to be the counter argument.
I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. I do not believe that there is a such thing as a homosexual marriage. To me, it is an oxymoron.
With that being said, I do believe in the rights of everyone. I believe that homosexuals should be given the same rights and privileges of all citizens. I am under the impression that 'civil unions' give homosexuals these rights.
I do not live in California, but I definitely supported Proposition 8 and other measures like it. Sure there is a separation between church and state, but at the same time, Proposition 8 would have stepped on a lot of rights of church organizations. For example, in Mass. where there are same sex marriages, a Catholic Adoption Agency had to shut it's doors because they refused to let homosexual "married" couples to adopt from their organization. They gladly refer the couple to a different organization that allowed such arrangements - however that was not good enough. After they were taken to court, they were eventually forced to shut their doors. I don't believe that this is right, at all. What about all of the other Christian outreach programs that stand in danger of losing their tax exemption status due to their beliefs - schools, camps...etc? That is not right.
Another thing that I don't believe is right is that our public school systems, will be forced to teach that marriage is valid between homosexuals, and anyone who disagrees with that stance is equal to a "bigot". Imagine that...a school system that I pay for with my taxes, has a right to teach my children, that I am a bigot. That our church teaches bigotry and hate? No thank you.
I love my homosexual brothers and sisters. I also hold marriage as a sacred institution given to us by God. I will protect the rights of homosexuals as well as the sacredness of marraige.
God Bless,
I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. I do not believe that there is a such thing as a homosexual marriage. To me, it is an oxymoron.
With that being said, I do believe in the rights of everyone. I believe that homosexuals should be given the same rights and privileges of all citizens. I am under the impression that 'civil unions' give homosexuals these rights.
I do not live in California, but I definitely supported Proposition 8 and other measures like it. Sure there is a separation between church and state, but at the same time, Proposition 8 would have stepped on a lot of rights of church organizations. For example, in Mass. where there are same sex marriages, a Catholic Adoption Agency had to shut it's doors because they refused to let homosexual "married" couples to adopt from their organization. They gladly refer the couple to a different organization that allowed such arrangements - however that was not good enough. After they were taken to court, they were eventually forced to shut their doors. I don't believe that this is right, at all. What about all of the other Christian outreach programs that stand in danger of losing their tax exemption status due to their beliefs - schools, camps...etc? That is not right.
Another thing that I don't believe is right is that our public school systems, will be forced to teach that marriage is valid between homosexuals, and anyone who disagrees with that stance is equal to a "bigot". Imagine that...a school system that I pay for with my taxes, has a right to teach my children, that I am a bigot. That our church teaches bigotry and hate? No thank you.
I love my homosexual brothers and sisters. I also hold marriage as a sacred institution given to us by God. I will protect the rights of homosexuals as well as the sacredness of marraige.
God Bless,
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elle
I am under the impression that 'civil unions' give homosexuals these rights.
Ah, a separate, but equal institution. Those work so well!
Ah, a separate, but equal institution. Those work so well!
gib
here is where I could use information. I don't remember being taught about any kind of marriage in school. Are you aware of where, at what age, and in what context marriage is being taught at all, let alone gay marriage? And, I am also curious, how do we teach a child acceptance and try to shield them from all the places and persons for whom that will be required. The research on this topic and child development is clear. Children are very resilient. When you teach them: "mommy and daddy are together, but some kids have mommy and mommy or daddy and daddy. It is different than you and most of your friends. Sometimes people won't like it, because it is different from what we see all the time. As for this family, we believe everyone deserves respect and kindness." the notion that children will be "protected" because gays can't marry pretends gays are going to stop being in public as couples, other students in their class are going to stop having gay parents and gays are just going to disappear. So, instead of taking that teaching moment to build future Obamas and Nancy Pelosis and Al Gores and Deval Patricks, we'll build more Sarah Palins and Donnie McClurkins who tolerate us, at best, or "war" against us. Again, choice. War or peace?
