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3 months ago
in Conversation platforms will make blogs increasingly redundant on Over The Counter Culture
Philippe,
Why did you use Claim my id as the place to assert your identity. Isn't a blog the best place to assert this kind of thing? In my option the best blogs do aa amzing job of being a central repository of a person thoughts and ideas and cannot be beatenby pro forma platforms.
Why did you use Claim my id as the place to assert your identity. Isn't a blog the best place to assert this kind of thing? In my option the best blogs do aa amzing job of being a central repository of a person thoughts and ideas and cannot be beatenby pro forma platforms.
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Philippe Bradley
a blog is what you SAY. Linking to your other profiles around the web show what you DO. Linking to artcles written about you shows you in the eyes of someone else (not always flattering, as you can see in some links on my claimid - but fair, even so). Blogs can't do all that; they're heavily biased, filtered, and don't have all the information available - like what you DO.
But Claimid is insignificant in this conversation and post. It's just a very handy shortcut I can give people to find out who I am (when I'm not anonymous) online. It's the very same reason people aggregate their friends' actions from different sites on FriendFeed - the different aspects to someone - their full context - are interesting and informative. You get a better picture of me when, in addition to reading my blog posts, you see what others have written about me, when you see how I've interacted with people on *their* blogs, when you can follow my thoughts and open conversations on twitter, etc.
Identity is and has been for a long time fragmented across a lot of sites. Even specific aspects of your personality have been fragmented, for example your comments on lots of different sites and on your blog. But what could happen if Disqus et al turn the blogosphere inside out by becoming conversation platforms is that at least that aspect of you have been 'defragged' - you bring more context with you to places like this when you leave a comment linking to all your other comments.
besides, a blog is what you SAY. A lot of th
The rest of my post was wondering what could be built around a defragged, aggregated aspect of your identity and those of your friends. Facebook built a place to socialise around your profiles and those of your friends. What about a conversation social network? Highly plausible....
But Claimid is insignificant in this conversation and post. It's just a very handy shortcut I can give people to find out who I am (when I'm not anonymous) online. It's the very same reason people aggregate their friends' actions from different sites on FriendFeed - the different aspects to someone - their full context - are interesting and informative. You get a better picture of me when, in addition to reading my blog posts, you see what others have written about me, when you see how I've interacted with people on *their* blogs, when you can follow my thoughts and open conversations on twitter, etc.
Identity is and has been for a long time fragmented across a lot of sites. Even specific aspects of your personality have been fragmented, for example your comments on lots of different sites and on your blog. But what could happen if Disqus et al turn the blogosphere inside out by becoming conversation platforms is that at least that aspect of you have been 'defragged' - you bring more context with you to places like this when you leave a comment linking to all your other comments.
besides, a blog is what you SAY. A lot of th
The rest of my post was wondering what could be built around a defragged, aggregated aspect of your identity and those of your friends. Facebook built a place to socialise around your profiles and those of your friends. What about a conversation social network? Highly plausible....
4 months ago
in Conversation platforms will make blogs increasingly redundant on Over The Counter Culture
All,
Totally disagree..
Blogs are the ultimate ME central because they have a killer app that can't be incorporated in other platforms: Control.
With the coming of URL to indentity mapping eg openId. I think the central spot will be become even more important, although it will evolve. Perhaps the future is the tumbleblog (a place that agregates all the me content that I acknowledge in one place).
IMO Disquss is very good but trackback is a better technology if the spam problem can be solved.
Totally disagree..
Blogs are the ultimate ME central because they have a killer app that can't be incorporated in other platforms: Control.
With the coming of URL to indentity mapping eg openId. I think the central spot will be become even more important, although it will evolve. Perhaps the future is the tumbleblog (a place that agregates all the me content that I acknowledge in one place).
IMO Disquss is very good but trackback is a better technology if the spam problem can be solved.
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Philippe Bradley
I disagree about trackbacks - when have you ever seen back-and-forth conversation being done via trackbacks?
I agree to some extent that overall, online identity will be richer than mere collections of conversational inputs - for that very reason I put my web presence together at http://www.claimid.com/phbradley - but that's a bold and loose counterprivacy move which I doubt many people, for a long time still, will ever copy. But without it, I probably would not have benefited as much from the 'Fred Wilson Effect' (see my previous blog post) since it let people instantly find me on various social networks - I got some good connects that I wouldn't if it hadn't existed.
And you have to be more specific about what kind of control; control over your previously made comments is not a feature that is lacking most of these comment platforms
I agree to some extent that overall, online identity will be richer than mere collections of conversational inputs - for that very reason I put my web presence together at http://www.claimid.com/phbradley - but that's a bold and loose counterprivacy move which I doubt many people, for a long time still, will ever copy. But without it, I probably would not have benefited as much from the 'Fred Wilson Effect' (see my previous blog post) since it let people instantly find me on various social networks - I got some good connects that I wouldn't if it hadn't existed.
And you have to be more specific about what kind of control; control over your previously made comments is not a feature that is lacking most of these comment platforms
4 months ago
in The semantic elephant in the room - Google will settle the "top down vs. bottom up" debate for us on Over The Counter Culture
Maybe precision is a better word. An example should suffice:
If someone is looking for rugby teams in Melbourne a search of Petes semantic store would probably return the website of the Old Xavs rugby team here:
http://shawcup.localhero.biz/
This is 100% precise in that I do assert that the old xavs are a rugby team in Melbourne. Its probably not relevant to most people nor is my assertion neccessarily trustworthy (I could be lying). A perfect search mechanism would nail all three aspects.
If someone is looking for rugby teams in Melbourne a search of Petes semantic store would probably return the website of the Old Xavs rugby team here:
http://shawcup.localhero.biz/
This is 100% precise in that I do assert that the old xavs are a rugby team in Melbourne. Its probably not relevant to most people nor is my assertion neccessarily trustworthy (I could be lying). A perfect search mechanism would nail all three aspects.
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Philippe Bradley
ah, I understand now, thanks Pete.
a chance to be used by people.